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MINUTES OF THE <br /> ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING <br /> Monday,November 27,2006 <br /> 7:00 o'clock p.m. <br /> (5. #05-3135 ALLENMUNSON, 3165 NORTH SHORE DRIVE, Continued) <br /> McMillan inquired whether any of the existing foundation is going to be utilized. <br /> Munson stated the City would not allow him to use the existing foundation due to the variances that <br /> would be required. <br /> White requested a clarification on the fill. <br /> Gaffron stated the applicant is working with the Mandels to obtain an easement in order to create a <br /> drainage swale to direct the drainage more in its natural flow across the Mandel property. Gaffron <br /> indicated the Mandels are not opposed to the easement. <br /> Gaffron stated there is an underground garage with a circular driveway above it. The current survey <br /> suggests that there will be grading right up to the lot line rather than five feet off of the property line. The <br /> impact of stopping the grading five feet from the property line would result in a ditch along the property <br /> line and would have some impact on how the runoff would flow past the neighbor's retaining wall. <br /> Kellogg stated he did briefly review the grading plans prior to tonight's meeting and that it appears the <br /> proposed drainage would work but that there is a question on the exact location of the retaining wall. The <br /> fill brought in would be lower than the top of the wall but would raise the grade on the Munson side. <br /> Kellogg recommended the location of the retaining wall be clarified. <br /> Gaffron stated the City has a code that restricts grading within five feet of the property line except if it is <br /> to create a drainage swale. The issue is that there is filling proposed up against the lot line to create the <br /> drainage swale rather than cutting away the dirt. Gaffron stated the elevation would still be lower on the <br /> Munson property. <br /> White inquired how high the fill would go. <br /> Munson stated it would be approximately two feet higher and that he is keeping it one foot below the <br /> retaining wall. <br /> McMillan inquired whether there would be erosion without the fill. <br /> Kellogg stated that is the only way that a swale could be established in that area and that the erosion will <br /> eventually go away once vegetation becomes established. <br /> McMillan commented it appears that without the fill there would be a big drop-off on the one side of the <br /> structure. <br /> Munson stated some water from the property to the north drains onto his property and that he is <br /> attempting to correct that situation. <br /> White stated in a situation where there is grading close to the lot line,the Council generally requires the <br /> permission of the adjoining property owner. <br /> Murphy stated he is hesitant to approve a six-foot variance into the average lakeshore setback even if <br /> there is an agreement by the affected adjoining property owner. <br /> PAGE 5of10 <br />
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