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MINUTES OF THE <br />ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING <br />Monday, February 8, 2021 <br />6:03 p.m. <br />_____________________________________________________________________________________ <br /> <br />Page 11 of 26 <br /> <br />19. LA20-000048 - TIMOTHY WHITTEN O/B/O I. JACOBS/A. JACOBS REVOCABLE <br />TRUST, 1700 SHORELINE DRIVE, PRELIMINARY PLAT - RESOLUTION – Continued <br /> <br />said there were some comments about ditch being required but in looking on the plans there is a culvert <br />about 200 feet north of the start of the road that goes under the existing Jacobs driveway and all the <br />drainage goes there, so there is no ditch required on that. <br /> <br />Johnson noted at the Planning Commission they also talked about having an acceleration lane coming out <br />and going the other way. <br /> <br />Mr. Gronberg said they did talk about that but there is not enough room there to do it. <br /> <br />Johnson said they were talking about if they made a right-hand turn out of there, a mirror image of that. <br /> <br />Mr. Gronberg said they did not determine there was enough room there with the wetlands. <br /> <br />Johnson asked who is “they.” <br /> <br />Mr. Gronberg replied the County. <br /> <br />Walsh welcomed any other commenters to the podium. <br /> <br />Attorney Aaron Dean, representing Barbara Burwell, approached the podium and said he has been before <br />the City Council at least once before and the Planning Commission. He noted the City Council is being <br />asked to make a hard decision because they are being asked to do things out of order. The Applicant has <br />not done the engineering to show that what they “think” will happen, can happen, and that is leading the <br />City Council in a bad position. He has provided the City Council with the Kemper survey and the <br />Applicant has provided the City Council the Gronberg survey. Attorney Dean said they used the two <br />surveys so they will be identical and have an apples-to-apples comparison with just the 4 foot shoulder, <br />even though that is not the right width of the shoulder. He stated the problem with where this road is, it is <br />in the most congested part of Shoreline Drive. He gave the City Council the MnDOT information and <br />said 15,600 vehicles per day and the City Council is being asked to overlook all of the health and safety <br />problems inherent with a really dense development. The problem is not the City Council; the problem is <br />that this should be a 2 or a 3 lot development. They can talk around in circles as much as they want, a 5 <br />and 6 lot development does not work but a 2 or 3 lot development does - he does not think a 4 lot <br />development would work, either. Attorney Dean wants to go through the reasons why it won’t work. <br />First of all there is only a 66 foot right-of-way and in that right-of-way they have to have Shoreline Drive. <br />If they put in a 12 foot turn lane, they have to have a shoulder to the side of that, then they have existing <br />power lines and he has provided the City Council today with two videos – he hopes they were able to <br />review them. Think about those videos taken today at 10:00 in the morning on a Monday in February <br />with COVID and there shouldn’t be any traffic at all…yet there is heavy traffic every day of the year. It <br />really illustrates the problem as it exists today which will be infinitely worse if they allow a dense <br />development to be built. He asked the City Council to imagine the construction traffic and how they will <br />even get into the Jacobs property. What he is showing with the MnDOT traffic application mapping <br />service was that they cannot even fit the turn lane that they say they will put in there. Mr. Gronberg’s <br />survey just shows that it is possible to put a 12 foot turn lane but as pointed out there is no acceleration <br />lane because there is no room. Attorney Dean said they do not even consider the fact of the existing <br />power lines; they cannot have the power lines where they are, as they will have to move them out and
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