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MINUTES OF THE <br />ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING <br />Monday, February 8, 2021 <br />6:03 p.m. <br />_____________________________________________________________________________________ <br /> <br />Page 10 of 26 <br /> <br />19. LA20-000048 - TIMOTHY WHITTEN O/B/O I. JACOBS/A. JACOBS REVOCABLE <br />TRUST, 1700 SHORELINE DRIVE, PRELIMINARY PLAT - RESOLUTION – Continued <br /> <br />Crosby asked if that turn lane is going in the western direction. <br /> <br />Walsh said regardless of whether it can or cannot be done, it would be contingent upon getting Hennepin <br />County approval to get it done correctly. The City Council is not making a decision on the turn lane but <br />rather making it consistent that it must be contingent on having that done correctly per County standards. <br /> <br />Johnson’s only question with the turn lane would be, as a City Council, do they have any jurisdiction to <br />even have an opinion on it. <br /> <br />Attorney Mattick said they have the right to have an opinion on it but they do not have jurisdiction over <br />that road. To the extent the City Council starts adding requirements to it, they must make sure the County <br />signs off on it. He noted the County has provided the City with recommendations they feel is necessary. <br /> <br />Walsh said the City Council has the ability to making it contingent on having a turn lane. <br /> <br />Attorney Mattick said absolutely. <br /> <br />Johnson asked if they can have that request going both ways, to add a center turn lane for a left turn. <br /> <br />Seals does not think there is any room. <br /> <br />Walsh agreed. <br /> <br />Johnson said they are coming up with 14 feet on the other side. <br /> <br />Crosby would not think they’d have it on the western side but they may have it on the eastern side. <br /> <br />Mattick said part of what he would say in looking at turn lanes and seeing the recommendations, he relies <br />upon the engineers who put together the plans. He cannot sit there today and tell the City Council <br />whether a turn lane is necessary or not. He knows the engineers for Hennepin County have looked at it <br />and made the recommendations. If the City Council wants to have additional turn lanes, traditionally that <br />is because there is a professional opinion that it is, or may be, required. Mattick noted they can inquire <br />about it, there is nothing that prohibits the City Council for perhaps being more restrictive, but it must be <br />based on something at this point. <br /> <br />Crosby would like to hear Mark Gronberg talk about the turn lane. <br /> <br />Mark Gronberg, Gronberg and Associates, 445 North Willow Drive, Long Lake approached the podium. <br />He said he has been working with the County on some designs and they said they are willing to work with <br />them to fit it within the existing right-of-way. As the City Council knows, Heritage Lane is down a <br />couple hundred feet to the west and they worked a turn lane in there in the same amount of right-of-way. <br />Mr. Gronberg noticed a drawing from the neighbors that showed a turn lane much closer to the Burwell <br />property and that started at the end of the pavement on the north end they already have a 4 foot shoulder <br />there and then showed an 8 foot turn lane and another 4 foot shoulder. He clarified the turn lane actually <br />starts at the driving lane, goes 8 feet, and then they try to fit a 4 foot shoulder in after that. Mr. Gronberg
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