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Christine Mattson From: Kelly-Schoborg Land Services, Inc. [kelly@schoborgland.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 8:56 PM To: Mike Gaffron Cc: Christine Mattson; Melanie Curtis Subject: Re: 2330 Oliver Hill/#2015-00388 Attachments: 7923-sketch-050615.pdf Mike, Thanks for your reply. I'm glad to get this information before our meeting on Friday, as it is much easier for me to calculate contours and grades while sitting at my computer and using AutoCAD than it is in a meeting at city hall.That said, here are a couple of follow-up comments/questions: 1. In my phone conversation with Christine,she mentioned that this house might need to be converted to a lookout basement design instead of a walkout basement. I don't understand how that would affect the calculation, if you are using grading plan grades instead of proposed grades. Can you clarify? 2. In reading between the lines of your email, I conclude that you are suggesting that it doesn't seem possible to make up the difference that is needed in order to declare the basement not a story and that the design must be altered to be a 1.5 story house instead of 2 stones. Is this your basic assessment? 3. If I may, I'd like to suggest an alternate option. Since there is no language in the ordinance that specifies grading plan proposed grades verses existing grades, I would ask you to re-consider using the existing contours on this site as a basis for determining the basement story calculation. In addition, I would like to employ the language"finished grade that increases more than one foot from existing ground level shall be considered as artificially raising the grade".This language tells me that we should be allowed to raise the existing grade by up to one foot before being considered artificially raising the grade.Therefore, I would conclude that the existing 997 contour would be the minimum grade we would need to be looking for when performing the basement story calculation. I have attached a sketch of the lot on which I have interpolated the 997 contour line. I hope that this information helps to get us closer to finding a solution that both satisfies the language of the ordinance as well as allows my clients to keep the 2-story house design that they prefer. Please review and call or email again with your comments. I am surprised to get your message so late in the evening. I too am working late these days to try to keep up with demand.This is a very busy spring. Have a good evening, and I look forward to hearing your additional comments. Sincerely, Kelly Brouwer Schoborg Land Services, Inc. 763-972-3221 (office) 763-442-2715 (mobile) kelly@SchoborgLand.com From: Mike Gaffron <MGaffron@ci.orono.mn.us> To: "'Kelly-Schoborg Land Services, Inc."' <kelly@schoborgland.com> Cc: Christine Mattson <CMattson@ci.orono.mn.us>; Melanie Curtis<MCurtis@ci.orono.mn.us> Sent:Wednesday, May 6, 2015 6:45 PM Subject: RE: 2330 Oliver Hill/#2015-00388 Kelly— The pre-existing grades on Lot 3 were relatively flat. The proposed and approved subdivision grading plan added fill to create building pads and established "new existing grades" for determination of building height and number of stories. I have done an independent analysis for the conceptual house based on the new existing grades, and it is clear that the conceptual house's lower level was too far out of the ground to be considered a basement. Likewise, my analysis finds that the lower level of the new proposed house on Lot 3, based on the new existing grades, is also much too far out of the ground to be considered as a basement. That lower level is a story. 1