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MINUTES OF THE ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING Monday, August 22, 2011 7:00 o'clock p.m. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Page 7 of 14 (7. ORONO ORCHARD ROAD AGREEMENT WITH MCES, Continued) Rahn stated if the Metropolitan Council is willing to partner with the City on the project; it would make sense to move ahead with the project. Rahn requested Kellogg provide the Council with the cost differences if the City were to do a like, kind, and size reconstruction on Old Crystal Bay Road versus a mill and overlay. Rahn noted they have talked in the past about substandard base in some areas and asked at what distances the soil borings were performed. Kellogg indicated there were five borings performed for the total length of the roadway and that generally they attempt to pick the areas where poor soils are anticipated. Rahn asked whether that cost comparison could be brought back to the Council in two weeks. Kellogg indicated they can prepare a cost estimate for the Council and bring it back to them in two weeks. Kellogg noted Old Crystal Bay Road is a state aid route and that if they are going to use state aid dollars, the road will need to meet some minimum widths. Rahn stated he would like to leave it up to the City Engineer to determine what the bare minimums are. Kellogg asked if he would like the cost estimates for the minimum standards on a mill and overlay project versus the cost estimates to reconstruct the two-way roadway to minimum standards. Rahn stated that is what he is looking for and that his intention is to not spend millions of dollars and replace infrastructure that is in good shape. Rahn stated he would like to see what the difference is between the two. Rahn asked whether the Council could move along with that in conjunction with the Orono Orchard Road project. Kellogg stated the two projects could go along on parallel paths if the City Council makes a decision on how they want to proceed in the very near future. Rahn asked what the next steps would be. Rahn commented the quicker the City does the work on Old Crystal Bay Road, the more the City will benefit from the engineering that has already been done. Kellogg noted a mill and overlay would not require plans and specs and that he could easily update the cost estimate later this year by figuring out the percent of increase in the cost index. If it is a complete reconstruct to minimum standards, he would suggest that the existing report be modifying by adding an option three. The two options already included in the report were a wider roadway with turn lanes and a wider roadway with roundabouts. Kellogg indicated adding a third option to the report would be a fairly simple process. Printup commented in his view that is a good idea for Old Crystal Bay Road. Printup stated partnering up with the Metropolitan Council on Orono Orchard Road is also a good idea. McMillan commented the Council cannot forget about Crystal Bay Road and that she would like to see both roads dealt with next summer. McMillan stated she appreciates the tight time schedule but that she would like to leave ample time to obtain public comment. Item #03 - CC Agenda - 09/12/2011 Approval of Council Minutes 08/22/2011 [Page 7 of 14]