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MINUTES OF THE <br />ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING <br />Monday, September 8, 2014 <br />7:00 o’clock p.m. <br />_____________________________________________________________________________________ <br /> <br /> Page 9 of 25 <br />(6. #14-3675 RYAN AND STACY ALNESS, XXX ELMWOOD AVENUE/PID 07-117-23-11-0027 <br />– VARIANCES, Continued) <br /> <br />Thieroff stated the answer Staff gave to the Planning Commission is incorrect for two reasons: One, the <br />ordinance talks about single lots of record. Currently this lot is one large lot by virtue of the Special Lot <br />Combination Agreement and is not yet a single lot of record. As a result, that provision does not apply in <br />this situation. Thieroff stated the provision that does apply and where the DNR addresses it is in the rules <br />regarding subdivisions within the shoreland district. Thieroff indicated Subpart 3 from the DNR rules <br />cover subdivisions in shoreland areas and that the DNR has adopted very specific rules about subdivision <br />when the land is located within the shoreland. <br /> <br />Thieroff noted the first provision states that local governments must not approve subdivisions that are <br />designed so variances from one or more standards and official controls would be needed to use the lots for <br />their intended purposes. If someone wants to divide a property in the shoreland, the City may not approve <br />that subdivision if to use the property for its intended purpose they would need additional variances. <br />Thieroff stated the applicants are requesting a variance so that requirement is met. Thieroff noted this is <br />not discretionary and it is the DNR saying someone may not do this. Thieroff indicated it cannot happen <br />without a subdivision due to the Special Lot Combination Agreement <br /> <br />The second provision says that the lot shall meet the minimum lot size. Thieroff stated he will represent <br />to the City Council that the other provision sets a 20,000 square foot minimum and this property is <br />approximately 10,000 square feet. Thieroff stated by virtue of this regulation that the DNR adopted, the <br />property is not buildable. That, by definition, means that the proposed use is not useable. If the proposed <br />use is not reasonable, the variance cannot be granted. <br /> <br />Thieroff stated the second issue he would like to touch on is the presence of a bluff on this property. At <br />the July Planning Commission meeting, Thieroff indicated he took the position that the proposed location <br />of the house was on a bluff. According to the City’s ordinances, if it is a bluff, all structures are <br />prohibited. The Planning Commission tabled the application at that meeting and stated they would like to <br />consult with Staff on that item. <br /> <br />Thieroff stated the point of contention is the location of what is called the bluff toe, which is the point on <br />the bluff that Staff makes the calculation to determine if the slope is steep enough over a long enough <br />period of time to constitute a bluff. Staff had placed the toe in one location and it has been suggested that <br />it should be placed in another location. Thieroff indicated Staff took the position that their argument <br />should be rejected and that the way Staff had conducted the calculation was correct. Thieroff stated there <br />was no analysis or legal reasoning provided at that time except that that is the way Staff has always done <br />it. <br /> <br />Thieroff stated with all due respect to Staff, the question is not whether the calculation is consistent with <br />past practices but whether it is consistent with the law. Thieroff stated he has submitted the document <br />that is on the overhead to Staff. Thieroff pointed out the location of Staff’s determination of the toe and <br />their location of the toe. In conversations with Staff, they have indicated there could only be one toe. <br />Thieroff noted the shoreline is 1,000 feet in length from the edge of the lake inland. Thieroff stated <br />simply because there is no hilly area near the lake that does not constitute a bluff that does not mean that <br />there is no bluff further inland. <br /> <br />
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