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• <br /> MINUTES OF THE <br /> ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING <br /> Monday,June 20,2005 <br /> 6:00 o'clock p.m. <br /> (#05-3121 Narrows Saloon, Continued) <br /> be taken into consideration and that he has a concern with the outside seating area. Kempf stated he <br /> would like to see both vestibules and the kitchen constructed within the existing interior space. <br /> Sudheimer inquired whether the outdoor seating area would be acceptable if it is reduced in size and <br /> screening is provided. <br /> Kempf indicated he still has a concern with the noise that could be generated from the outdoor seating <br /> area. Kempf stated by eliminating the outdoor seating area a number of the issues dealing with the <br /> parking are eliminated. <br /> Leslie stated he understands the traffic noise issues and pointed out that traffic and motorcycle noise is a <br /> problem in a number of areas. Leslie stated in his opinion the vestibules should be interior as well as the <br /> kitchen expansion. Leslie stated he has a concern with the outdoor seating during the nighttime hours but <br /> not necessarily during the daytime. Leslie inquired if the rear seating area could close earlier than the rest <br /> of the facility and whether the outdoor seating could be limited to the front rather than the rear. <br /> Sudheimer stated the patio is a new concept for the area and that they are willing to consider different <br /> options. <br /> Anderst stated currently there are approximately 20 people outside on the curb smoking and talking and <br /> the amount of noise generated by some people sitting at this outdoor seating area is minimal compared to <br /> the noise generated from the traffic. Anderst stated people like to be outside. Anderst stated this is a <br /> business district and that he did not allow the houses to be built next to this area. Anderst stated he <br /> cannot control the noise generated by the motorcycles and other traffic in the area. <br /> Hoyt recommended Anderst purchase additional land if he wants to expand. <br /> Anderst indicated he would be willing to revise his plans to expand the kitchen inside as well as the <br /> vestibule. <br /> Bremer stated in her view the outdoor seating in the front might be more dangerous than the rear given <br /> the traffic in the area and the limited amount of space. Bremer indicated she is not supportive of the <br /> vestibule as currently proposed. Bremer stated she would like to see the outdoor seating combined into <br /> one area, screened, limited hours, and done on a trial basis. <br /> Bremer stated she does have a concern regarding the parking in this area and that the signs designating <br /> parking for the hardware store may not work. <br /> Rahn stated he is opposed to the vestibule and that it should be constructed on the interior. Rahn stated he <br /> would be supportive of a trial basis for a reduced outdoor seating area and recommended the Narrows <br /> Saloon do a lot of self-policing of the area to avoid problems. <br /> PAGE 36 <br />