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milUTB8 OP THE PIAimiliG CQMMISSIOll MBETIHG 80VBMBBR 21, 1988 •J :i *Z0MIH6 FILE #1302~ClTy OP ORONO CONTINl private property without due compensation? Chairman Kelley advised the residents that they would have to deal with the City Council and City Attorney on those issues. Mr. Schupp said that he did not see how the City could interfere with his access to the lake. Kelley reiterated his position that the Planning Commission could not resolve that issue. He added that as far as the City's health, safety and welfare was concerned, the Planning Commission would recommend installation of a guardrail. The issue of any compensation to the property owners would have to be addressed by the City. Mr. Schupp asked what the height requirement was for a guardrail. Kelley informed him that any drop of 30" required a guardrail. Kelley reiterated his suggestion of taking the guardrail issue to the City Council, because the Planning Commission did not have the authority to resolve that issue. Planning Commission member Hanson interjected that for 18 months this public road has existed in an unsafe state. Kelley continued to say that the Planning Commission can only act on the City Ordinances. The residents were asking for a variance to the ordinance requiring a railing for a 5' drop. Kelley avowed himself to be a volunteer to his community and said that he could not consciously allow that kind of a drop-off without a guardrail. Mr. Erger said that he would not object to the "curb" going up if it was located at the very edge of the lot line, or even extending 3* or 4' if the City could determine how much slope would be involved. Kelley suggested that the City could protect itself and take more private property and have more road on the other side. Mr. Wolfe reiterated his desire to consult with a landscape architect. Mr. Erger asked if the City would allow the bank to be 1:1? City Engineer Cook said that it could be 1:1, but that may be very costly. A better solution may be to keep the bank at 30" or less. Mr. Schupp asked if proceeding with option 1 would alleviate the need for a guardrail? City Engineer Cook said that may or may not be the case. Rich Anderson suggested putting the bank back as it was so that a guardrail would not be necessary. Kelley and Cohen explained that it would be the property owner's financial obligation if they proceeded in that manner. Rich Anderson wanted the City to finance the project. Kelley again suggested taking these various proposals to the City Council. Mr. Erger asked about having 2' of shoulder from the blacktop to the guardrail and screening the guardrail from the front^with plantings. Bellows and Kelley pointed out the fact that snow plows may destroy the shrubs. It was moved by Chairman Kelley, seconded by Planning Commission member Cohen, to table this matter. Kelley suggested that the property owners keep the City apprised of how they would like to proceed. Mr. Greg Long asked for a definition of guardrail. Kelley said that the City would provide the residents 8