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MINUTES OF THE <br />ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING <br />Moiday, Aaguit 16,2004 <br />6:00 o*clock p.m. <br />(404.3646 Robcn awl BrcMia ^lacDoaaM, coalimcd) <br />Kelley acknowledged it is not proper to build w ithout a building permit, but that the builduig cede has <br />penalties provided for in the code to deal with a sihiation where a building permit has not been <br />obtained. Kelley stated if a project is constructed without going through the proper hoops, the <br />property owner is penalized by having to pay double the permit fees. <br />Kempf stated it essentially sounds like if you pay a double <br />achieved avoiding a hardcover study. <br />, ^ a building permit, you have <br />Kelley stated that is not what he is saying and apologized for not being clear. Kelley indicated it is his <br />opinion under the nonconforming statute that governs, a person now has the right to replace or restore <br />a nonconforming structure. Kelley stated he is not aw are of the code requmng hardcover reviews <br />because you arc simply replacing a nonconforming structure. <br />Rahn inquired how nonconforming sinicturcs would be gotten nd of if the person is alwa^'s allow ed to <br />restore or replace them. <br />Kelley noted that was a recent change in the law. <br />Gundlach stated it is her understanding the new statute did not go into effective until August 1" and <br />this project was completed prior to that time. Gundlach stated even if the new statute would apply, it <br />docs nut ulluw for any expansion. Gundlach noicd the new garage was not constructed exactly the <br />same as the old garage, with more height existing at the 8.4 foot non-conforming .setback. <br />Rahn noted there were also dormers constructed on the conforming side. <br />Kelley indicated that he did discuss this issue with Gundlach prior to the meeting and concurred that <br />the statute did not go into effective until August 1“. Kelley submitted that he believed the statute <br />should be applied in this case. Kelley stated as far as the expansion, in his view it would be expuruiun <br />of **ie nonconforming setback, and that was not changed. Kelley stated the location of the garage was <br />nut changed. <br />Fritzler commented that it appears to be easier to ask forgiveness than to ask permission in this <br />particular case. <br />Kelley indicated the fact that a buildmg permit was not obtained in and of itself is not proper grounds <br />to deny a variance. Kelley commented in cases where a building permit is not obtained prior to <br />construction, the City does have ihc nght to impose a penally. <br />Rahn stated the double fee allows the applicant to ask for a vanance. Rahn inquired whether the <br />.MacE>onalds would be opposed to reducing any hardcover on this lot Rahn commented he would like <br />to see some hardcover reductions. <br />Kelley indicated he has not q?okcn with the city planner regardmg hardcover reductions. <br />MacDonald stated when they originally came in wanting to rebuild the garage, one of the issues w as <br />PAGE 26
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