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30 <br /> 1 planning says we need a bigger substation and so <br /> 2 forth , so they say can you make it fit here? And so <br /> 3 I have to design it and look at it and so forth . <br /> 4 And I say , oh , yes , in this situation we <br /> 5 were able to say yes , we can make it fit here . And <br /> 6 that does allow therefore to use our existing <br /> 7 property and there ' s our existing distribution <br /> 8 circuits that are already there that we don ' t have <br /> 9 to be - - you know , get new route rights -of -way for <br /> 10 the distribution circuit and so forth . So it is a <br /> 11 more economical thing to always go with the existing <br /> 12 site if you can make it work . <br /> 13 MS . MELISSA FOGELBERG : And I understand <br /> 14 that , and I know that ' s your job to make it work <br /> 15 that way . But , you know , another way of looking at <br /> 16 it is you ' ve got a problem and you ' re trying to make <br /> 17 your problem our problem . So , you know , sure , it ' s <br /> 18 easier for you to work with this and less costly but <br /> 19 now we have a problem that we didn ' t have before . <br /> 20 And , you know , so your solution has a price tag for <br /> 21 us . <br /> 22 I ' m curious , the property just to the <br /> 23 east of yours , there ' s that little section right - - <br /> 24 who owns that? I don ' t know . And if you ' re going <br /> 25 to have to condemn some property any way , why don ' t <br />