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MINUTES OF THE <br /> ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION <br /> Tuesday,January 19,2021 <br /> 6:00 o'clock p.m. <br /> Mr. Gronberg clarified lot 3 was approved during Tanager Estates, and went over all those bluff lines <br /> with Mike Gaffron and there is not a side setback for a bluff, it is at the top of the bluff which is 30 feet. <br /> That was an approved pad and, in his office,they have a house plan for lot 3 coming in that will make this <br /> whole thing moot. Once that house gets established,the line over to 1100 Millston will be way lakeward <br /> of where lot 5 is going to be built. They did have an exhibit that showed the 1100 Millston is 398 feet <br /> from Tanager Lake and when measuring 398 on lot 5 there is still a 60x90 building pad there. He said <br /> between the red line and yellow lines on screen there would still be room to build a house,even if nothing <br /> is built yet on lot 3 Tanager Estates. He noted regarding the turn lane,he looked at it and scaled it off and <br /> noted it is about 25 feet or so from the road to the property line and there is enough room to get a turn <br /> lane in. When looking at Heritage Lane,there is a turn lane there and the same amount of right-of-way. <br /> Kirchner's initial thought is there is some concern from the neighborhood and the second thought is for <br /> all intents and purposes this appears to be a conforming plat. With that being said,to Mr. Dean and Ms. <br /> Burwell's statements regarding the right-hand turn lane,he does believe that should be explored to a <br /> definitive point to understand if it can be done with the right-of-way that exists there without taking <br /> additional land. It sounds like Mr. Gronberg has already done some work on that but prior to the City <br /> Council seeing this plan that may be very beneficial for all parties involved to understand. Regarding the <br /> ALS,that seems to be one of the sticking points and they just had it demonstrated that there is still a <br /> building pad there and may not be as large as what is shown on the plat,but as Mr. Gronberg has shown <br /> there is still a buildable area there in the event that lot 3 of Tanager Estates is not built at the time of lot 5 <br /> of this one is. At the end of the day,he said it is a conforming plat,the buildable area and provided areas <br /> meet City code and requirement. He does think some things need to be explored, such as the right-of-way <br /> for the turn lane but those are all things that can be done between now and the City Council meeting with <br /> a professional survey report done to demonstrate and illustrate those points. <br /> Libby thinks Mr. Gronberg clarified one important point that had to do with Mr.Dean's objections and <br /> that is the bluff conservation ordinances in the City were very focused on preservation of the bluff. They <br /> have a zenith, a top, and a peak and then there is the lower level or bottom of the bluff. So,blending those <br /> two measurements or setbacks is not necessarily appropriate. His remaining question is,they do have a <br /> definitive verse and chapter for bluff conservation ordinance and it is attached to that; does the current lot <br /> 5 building site satisfy the necessary setback of 30 feet from the top or zenith of the bluff. <br /> Barnhart replied yes it does. They expect that the new house plan may differ from the footprint shown on <br /> screen and they will certainly do a review for that new home,but they have demonstrated there is a house <br /> site available for that lot. <br /> Libby said in looking at this from a linear house size versus dimensional distance that there is anything <br /> less than 30 feet even in this drawing. He deals with building size and setbacks on a regular basis during <br /> new construction, and this looks very easily perceptible to him to be at 30 feet if not slightly more than <br /> that. They'd be 40 feet from where the bluff drops. He is trying to understand where Mr.Dean gets the <br /> perception that this is less than 30 feet, not to discount his perception but Libby thinks it is important to <br /> establish that is 30 feet if that is what the City's requirement is. <br /> Barnhart thinks Mr.Dean's comments were more related to the situation on screen where the proposed <br /> house site for lot 3 is near the bluff. <br /> Libby stated they outlined two areas,one at the setback from lot 5 from the bluff and also from Tanager <br /> Estates lot 3. <br /> Page 10 of 28 <br />