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adjustments. Please see the attached documents titled SUMMARY OF ADJUSTMENT OPTIONS <br /> and HISTORY OF INDIVIDUAL ADJUSTMENTS. <br /> DSAE Recommendation —Greg Coughlin <br /> Greg presented his recommendation as directed by the MSB. <br /> Please see the attached document titled DSAE recommendation to combined subcommittee for his <br /> explanation of this recommendation: <br /> for an adjustment retroactive, 1 '/4 years, to April 2007 when the City of Orono <br /> self reported inaccuracies in their approach. I believe if the Municipal <br /> Screening Board(MSB) subcommittees and the MSB agrees to this <br /> recommendation, the Orono private road matter will be resolved. <br /> Motion by Mike Metso to accept the DSAE recommendation <br /> Motion died for lack of a second. <br /> Subcommittee Discussion - All <br /> Chuck Ahl stated that the city has a responsibility to live with the consequences of this adjustment. It <br /> is not a penalty. They actually received other cities money for many years and we need to correct <br /> this inequity. Should be a minimum of a 5 year adjustment. <br /> Lee Gustafson said he came into the meeting prepared to impose the maximum adjustment possible. <br /> Marshall stated that he had reviewed Orono's mileages going back 11 years, and this excess mileage <br /> was included for at least that long. <br /> Lee stated that based on Marshall's research and the handout titled HISTORY OF INDNIDUAL <br /> ADJUSTMENTS (attached) the city should receive at least a five year adjustment. <br /> Mike M. asked Dave Kildahl, as a consulting engineer, to give his perspective. <br /> Dave said that this really puts the consultant in a bad position, and that he would not bring the issue <br /> to the attention of SA without the city's knowledge. He then said that he feels the city should receive <br /> at least a five year adjustment. <br /> Deb Bloom stated she feels that the city engineer usually brings the question to State Aid's attention. <br /> Arden Hills had a consulting engineer when they received their Individual Adjustment for having a <br /> private road on the MSAS system, and she was told that the city engineer at that time brought it to <br /> State Aid's attention. She said all of these adjustments are made because a city has been collecting <br /> money they are not entitled to. <br /> Motion by Dave Kildahl, Second by Craig Gray that the city of Orono receive a <br /> 5 year retroactive adjustment for the Needs generated by the excess mileage they <br /> had on the MSAS system because of using private roads in their computations. <br /> Lee said the city had a staff engineer for many years who was familiar with the State Aid system and <br /> he feels the city knew these were private roads. He will support the five year adjustment. <br /> Mike M. noted he is struggling with not going along with the DSAE recommendation, but will agree <br /> to support the motion for a five year retroactive adjustment. <br /> Chuck agreed with Mike about not going along with the DSAE recommendation, but for equity he <br /> feels that the five year adjustment should be imposed. <br /> 42 <br />
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