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Vogstrom stated they are open to that but that they would rather not. <br />Curtis asked if the driveway is an outlot. <br />Vogstrom indicated it is not at this point and that they are not proposing an outlot. Vogstrom stated his <br />thought was that they could go on Walters Port and not have to create an outlot for the new road. <br />Curtis noted that road does not have road frontage and as a result they would be creating a back lot and a <br />second back lot with no frontage. Curtis noted that back lot needs to be 150 percent of the area. <br />Vogstrom stated that would happen if they have the third driveway. <br />Curtis noted they need to have frontage on the road or it is considered a back lot. Curtis stated a big piece <br />of this is that lot does not have road frontage at all. <br />Eric Vogstrom indicated they would be open to doing an outlot. <br />Thiesse asked if they can have two back lots. <br />Curtis stated the City typically only allows one back lot. <br />Thiesse noted Item No. 7 relates to the need for a conforming building envelope, which this lot does not <br />appear to have, and that a newly created lot is required to have a conforming building envelope. Item <br />No. 7 states: An average lakeshore setback variance would be necessary for Lot 2 as configured. The <br />alignment of the shoreline for proposed Lot 2 is not a peninsula but rather a curved shoreline, which is <br />very common along the lake. The creation of the new lot in this configuration would be a self-created <br />practical difficulty which would not be supportable. Thiesse noted in order to expedite the project, the <br />Dunkleys combined the lots and that subsequently changed the situation. Thiesse stated the applicants <br />cannot create their own practical difficulty, which was done in this case. <br />Vogstrom stated that is something that he will have to address with the Dunkleys. <br />Thiesse stated as it relates to the average lakeshore setback, if the neighboring properties are against it, <br />that holds a lot of water with him. <br />Vogstrtom stated he does not see anyone's view being blocked. <br />Hueler requested the Planning Commissioners walk the property. <br />Vogstrom pointed out the location of the old home and noted their proposal would be back here. <br />Vogstrom stated the new house is not going to block his view. <br />Thiesse noted that neighbor currently has a view across that shed because somebody combined the lot, <br />which needs to be taken into consideration. <br />Vogstrom stated the lakeshore clearly has a point. <br />Libby stated in his view the shoreline meanders but that he would not consider it to be a point. <br />Eric Vogstrom stated the shoreline is irregular. <br />Thiesse commented the average lakeshore setback is a stickler. <br />