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Erickson stated in addition to the fire department, they also have the police and ambulance crew. <br />Hauri stated the Dunkleys are more than happy to accommodate the fire chief and emergency vehicles. <br />Thiesse asked where gate two is located. <br />Curtis indicated it is on Lot 1, which is the Dunkley property. <br />Eric Vogstrom stated to his knowledge both gates are on the Dunkley property. <br />Curtis pointed out the location of the two gates. <br />Ressler commented it seems like adding gates kind of eliminates the purpose of making the road a loop <br />regardless if the gate is motion sensored. Ressler asked if the gates are that important. <br />Vogstrom noted there are two gates and not three and that he can speak with the Dunkleys about them. <br />There is a gate currently on Pence, which opens automatically. Vogstrom stated they did talk about <br />adding a third gate with a strobe light that would open automatically so people did not have to get out of <br />their cars. Vogstrom stated they would like to have the gate because they do not want someone who is <br />not familiar with the area driving all around. <br />Thiesse commented there are a lot of gates in the City of Orono and that could be part of the applicants' <br />flexibility. <br />Vogstrom indicated they are open to suggestions. <br />Libby stated a gate usually has fencing associated with it and a desire for privacy. Libby asked if the <br />gates are in conjunction with fencing. <br />Vogstrom indicated there are little stone columns holding the gate. <br />Libby asked if the gate is more to delineate the driveway rather than for security or safety. <br />Vogstrom stated it was probably more aesthetic and that the gate opens automatically if someone drives <br />up to it. <br />Libby asked if he sees any kind of safety issues with the crossing of the two driveways. <br />Vogstrom stated right now that area is wide open and that they will keep visibility in mind when <br />landscaping. Vogstrom stated the Walters Port driveway will be for emergency access and that all three <br />properties will access off of Pence, with a turnaround for trucks and other vehicles. <br />Thiesse stated in his view gated roads are not an acceptable alternative to a cul-de-sac, and that if they are <br />going to continue to propose gates, they should be prepared to defend them before the City Council. <br />Ressler commented anything they can do to simplify it would be helpful and that maybe they should <br />consider placing the gates on each individual property. <br />Erickson stated he was visiting relatives over the weekend and that they have a gate hooked up to a <br />generator. Erickson stated the power went out and the generator did nothing. Erickson stated fortunately <br />the power company got the power going again in four hours, but that if someone was having a heart <br />attack, that would be a long four hours. Erickson indicated it turned out the battery was old and needed to <br />be replaced. Erickson stated if something like that happens in an emergency situation, that could have big <br />consequences. Erickson questioned whether the City would assume any liability if they approve the gate. <br />Thiesse asked if they are proposing any outlots for the roads. <br />