HomeMy WebLinkAboutRe: drainage problems March 4, 1995
Jeanne A. Mabusth
Building and Zoning Administrator
P.O. Box 66
Crystal Bay, In
55323-0066
In the fall of 1965 , I purchased a small hobby farm
at 665 Orchard Park Road. Our family horse of 18 years
had been a boarder there along with two other horses on
the 5 acre tract .
It had a small pond on it , about 15 ft across, and we
could enjoy the entire 5 acres with a riding path up and
around the hill, a beautiful piece of land.
Since purchasing it , two new homes have been constructed
in the area. Water levels seem to have been re-directed, and
the 'pond' kept enlarging.Iiraculously stopping at the fence
line of the neighbor lower down. The ground used to appear
straight across there but I haven' t checked for ' dredging. '
Now the big new house to the north is finished and up
for sale, with the hoses coming out of the newly contoured
land and fills and aimed at their man-made 'lake ' --as it
was advertized.
The new man-made lake ( our pond) is now seven feet deep
and has made one-half of our 5 acre land completely inaccesible
to us! Many trees have died, our fence posts have caved in,
and it is very evident to me that laws have been violated
at the expense of our land.
I would appreciate your looking in to this matter; it
has gone on much too long without complaint .
Madalen Pidgeon
888-3691
425-2072, Tues Only
MAR 6 1995
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Mr. and Mrs. John G. Pidgeon
10912 Glenn Wilding Lane
Bloomington, Minnesota 55431
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Pidgeon:
The City is in receipt of your letter of March 4, 1995 advising of increased drainage problems
noted over the past few years involving your rental property at 665 Orchard Park Road.
Your letter has been copied to the Public Works Director and to the City Engineer. We hope
to inspect the area as soon as weather permits. You will be advised of the City's findings as
soon as the required on-site inspections have been completed and a review of the appropriate
files.
Please contact my office if you have any further comments or questions on this matter.
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Building & Zoning Administrator
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Ms. Jeanne A. Mabusth
Building and Zoning Administrator
City of Orono
Post Office Box 66 0
Crystal Bay, Minnesota 55323 vN 2
Re: Orchard Park Road Drainage
File No. 139-Gen
Dear Jeanne,
We have inspected the drainage problem at 665 Orchard Park Road. The water level of
the wetland south of County Road 6 is higher than normal and is not presently draining.
The natural drainage route directly to the south runs along Orchard Park Road through a
culvert and then east under the road. It appears obvious that fill has been placed within
this natural drainage route at 615 and 585 Orchard Park Road. The fill in some sense
makes the wetland landlocked, as it must rise several feet further before reaching the
overflow point. We believe that the fill placement is in violation of State Law in that it
blocks a natural drainage route. These property owners should be informed that the fill
material must be removed in the immediate vicinity of the drainage route unless piping is
installed. If necessary, we can arrange to have the properties surveyed to verify if the
elevations correspond to the topography mapping done for the City on March 27, 1992. We
have attached a sketch of the drainage route.
Please contact me at this office if you have any questions regarding this matter.
Yours very truly,
BONESTROO, ROSENE, ANDERLIK & ASSOCIATES, INC.
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June 19, 1995
Madalen Pidgeon
10912 Glen Wilding Lane
Bloomington, MN 55431
Dear Mrs. Pidgeon:
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you concerning drainage problems on your property.
Orono staff members and two members from the consultant engineer's office met at your
property and reviewed the surrounding watershed to determine what changes have occurred that
would restrict drainage from flowing south from your property.
It appears that two property owners to the immediate south have been gradually filling in their
rear yard. This gradual filling now restricts the natural or historic flow of drainage to the
south.placed a natural flow of drainage to the south.
The City will be sending a letter to the property owners advising them of this problem and
recommending a meeting with staff and the City Engineer. Hopefully, at these meetings we will
be able to determine the best means to restore natural drainage and an approximate schedule for
remedial land alteration.
Some of the options that the City will recommend will be either the installation of an
underground drainage tile or a grassed swale. The City normally encourages grassed swales
because of the problems with the maintenance of an underground drainage tile.
Please advise if you wish to be present at any of the meetings that we schedule with the two land
owners. Failing to hear any further from you, we will keep you posted as soon as our meetings
have resolved a time schedule for the necessary repairs to restore drainage.
Sincerely, /
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Jeanne A. Mabusth
Building & Zoning Administrator
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cc: Shawn Gustafson, City Engineer
Harlan Olson, Citygi�r(612) 473-7357 • FAX 473-0510
John Gerhardson, Public Works Director
10912 !glen `Jilding Ln.
Bloo iin.gton ivy 554.31
June 25 , 1995
Jeanne A . iiauusth-
s3uildin s Goy. ig ld __r i 3trator
F.O. Box 66
Crytal Bay, Lin 55323-006
Dear i'ri13. iaa bu s��n
T'ha..L you for your: letter or curie 19. I would indeed
like to be present at the meeting involving the closest
neighbor, Mr. Kevin Lange . When 1 think of that mysterious
tent pitched right on t. e lot line , in the mud, for months
last fall ; then when it was removed, 'voila' a big mound
of dirt on their side !
This spring they did a little remodeling involving a
backhoe next to the house , but most of the land
re-contouring seemed to be attempted under cover.
I will look forward to hearing from you about the meeting.
Sincerely,
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June 28, 1995
Donnell and Henrieta Thomas
585 Orchard Park Road
Long Lake, Minnesota 55356
The Orono staff has recently completed an inspection of the local watershed of your
neighborhood. The inspection resulted from concerns raised by the owner of the property
located at 665 Orchard Park Road advising of severe flooding problems on their property. Refer
to the drainage map enclosed, drainage runs from the north to the south through the rear yard
of your property to a culvert beneath the driveway at the Weestrand property located at 525
Orchard Park Road eventually to the wetland.
The engineer noted recent filling on your property that has restricted the historic and natural
flow of drainage through your property causing major flooding problems for the Pidgeon
property to the north. Restricting or blocking the flow of natural drainage is in violation of State
statute. We must ask that you contact the City offices so that we may arrange to meet with you
and the City Engineer in order to quickly resolve the flooding problems of your neighbor and
remove the violation.
You are asked to contact my office no later than Monday, July 10th so that we can arrange to
meet at the City offices to determine the best method of restoring drainage for the watershed.
If you have any questions pertaining to this matter, please feel free to contact my office.
Sincerely,
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Jeanne A. Mabusth
Building & Zoning Administrator
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cc: Shawn Gustafson, City Engineer
Harlan Olson, Field Engineer
John R. Gerhardson, Public Works Director
Telephone (612) 473-7357 • FAX 473-0510
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June 28, 1995
Kevin M. Lang
615 Orchard Park Road
Long Lake, Minnesota 55356
Dear Mr. Lang:
The Orono staff has recently completed an inspection of the local watershed of your
neighborhood. The inspection resulted from concerns raised by the owner of the property
located at 665 Orchard Park Road advising of severe flooding problems on their property. Refer
to the drainage map enclosed, drainage runs from the north to the south through the rear yard
of your property to a culvert beneath the driveway at the Weestrand property located at 525
Orchard Park Road eventually to the wetland.
The engineer noted recent filling on your property that has restricted the historic and natural
flow of drainage through your property causing major flooding problems for the Pidgeon
property to the north. Restricting or blocking the flow of natural drainage is in violation of State
statute. We must ask that you contact the City offices so that we may arrange to meet with you
and the City Engineer in order to quickly resolve the flooding problems of your neighbor and
remove the violation.
You are asked to contact my office no later than Monday, July 10th so that we can arrange to
meet at the City offices to determine the best method of restoring drainage for the watershed.
If you have any questions pertaining to this matter, please feel free to contact my office.
Sincerely,
Jeanne A. Mabusth
Building & Zoning Administrator
JAM/ch
cc: Shawn Gustafson, City Engineer
Harlan Olson, Field Engineer •
John R. Gerhardson, Public Works Director
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July 7, 1995
Mrs. Madeline Pidgeon
10912 Glen Wilding Lane
Bloomington, Minnesota 55431
Dear Mrs. Pidgeon: .
The City has scheduled on-site meetings with both the Langs and the Thomases the week of July
10th. Staff would prefer meeting only with the property owners at our initial meeting. We will
report to you on the results of those meetings as soon as they are completed at the end of that
week. It may prove to be necessary to have a meeting of all involved property owners at the
City offices at a later date.
One property owner has noted that drainage problems commenced with the construction of the
Weestrand driveway at 525 Orchard Park Road. The City Engineer has been asked to address
the original land use file that dealt with the specific construction of the driveway and the
elevation of a culvert that was to be installed beneath that drive.
Again we will advise you of the outcome of the meetings some time during the week of July
17th.
Sincerely,
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Jeanne A. Mabusth
Building & Zoning Administrator
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Mr. and Mrs. Donnell Thomas
585 Orchard Park Road
Long Lake, MN 55356
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Thomas:
Per our recent phone conversation, I have scheduled a late afternoon meeting with the City
Engineer at your property Wednesday, July 12, 1995 at 4:30 p.m. Please contact my office at
your very earliest convenience if this date will conflict with your schedule.
Sincerely,
Jeanne A. Mabusth
Building & Zoning Administrator
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cc: Shawn Gustafson, City Engineer
John Gerhardson, Public Works Director
Harlan Olson, City Engineer
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Mr. and Mrs. Kevin M. Lang
615 Orchard Park Road
Long Lake, MN 55356
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Lang:
This letter is written to confirm the time and date for our site inspection. Per our recent phone
conversation, we have scheduled the site inspection for Thursday, July 13, 1995 at 9:00 a.m.
Sincerely,
Jeanne A. Mabusth
Building & Zoning Administrator
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cc: Shawn Gustafson, City Engineer
John Gerhardson, Public Works Director
Harlan Olson, City Engineer
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Madalen Pidgeon
10912 Glen Wilding Lane
Bloomington, MN 55431
Dear Mrs. Pidgeon:
The City staff has completed the scheduled on-site meetings with the neighboring property
owners to the south of your property. The meetings were informative and all parties were very
cooperative. Staff learned a great deal of the history of the neighborhood along with the history
of the drainage of the neighborhood provided by senior residents of the area who were visiting
the day of our inspection.
It appears that an underground tile carrying drainage to the south via the backyards of the
properties may have been damaged when the Weestrand driveway was installed. Mr. Lang has
volunteered to conduct excavations on his property to determine the location and depth of the
draintile. The City Engineer has been asked to get a survey crew out on the site to shoot the
elevation of the culvert beneath the Weestrand driveway and the drainage area that drains south
from your rear yard.
As soon as the information is reviewed, the City will more than likely schedule a meeting of all
involved property owners to determine the best way to deal with the drainage problem. Please
feel free to call me if you have any questions or wish more information on anything stated in
the letter above.
Sincerely,
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Mr. and Mrs. Donnell Thomas, 585 Orchard Park Road, Long Lake, MN 55356
Mr. and Mrs. Kevin M. Lang, 615 Orchard Park Road, Long Lake, MN 55356
Telephone (612) 473-7357 • FAX 473-0510
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November 29, 1995
Madalen Pigeon
10912 Glen Wilding Lane
Bloomington, MN 55431
Dear Mrs. Pigeon:
The City Engineer and Orono staff would like to meet with you on Wednesday, December 6,
1995 to discuss the flooding of the designated wetland within your rear yard. I have asked the
City Engineer to set aside the early morning hours for a meeting at the City offices. Please
contact my office at your very earliest convenience so that we may schedule a specific time
in the morning hours. If December 6th presents a conflict in your schedule, please select
another day and time for our meeting.
Sincerely,
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Jeanne A. Mabusth
Building & Zoning Administrator
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cc: Ron Moorse, City Administrator
Shawn Gustafson, City Engineer
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Madalen Pidgeonb �- ,,,�iPr
10912 Glen Wilding Lane
Bloomington, MN 55431
Dear Mrs. Pidgeon,
District engineer, Andrew Syverson, met . ' . ou , • W .O. E• ale on Friday, December 8,
to inspect the wetland on your prope Orchard Park Road, Long La*). Based on
discussions with him and upon revie a e corres -ence between yourself and the City of
Orono, the following points are noted:
It is very probable that activities of adjacent property owners have restricted the drainage
between your parcels of property. In an effort to restore the drainage to the previous condition,
existing tile line could be re-established.
Restoring drain tile to the previous condition is addressed under exemption 3 of the Wetland
Conservation Act and would not require a watershed district permit. This exemption states that a
replacement plan is not required for `activities necessary to repair and maintain existing public
or private drainage systems as long as wetlands that have been in existence for more than 20
years are not drained' (see attached).
This letter qualifies as your exemption from the WCA if you proceed with re-establishing
existing drain tile. If other means to resolve this issue are pursued, such as a diversion, please
contact our office regarding permits.
Sincerely,
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Suzan M. Weed an
Assist t District Director
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DEC 2.. 0 1996
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Andrew Syverson, Wenck Associates
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on same requirements of subpart 2 for the exemption stated in •
Minnesota Statutes, section 103G.2241, subdivision 1, clause
he (1), except that the years required are at least six of the ten
years preceding the year of enrollment in the conservation
reserve program. The landowner must also state in writing that
the wetland was not restored with assistance from a public or
private wetland restoration fund, or that the restoration was
• done under a contract or easement providing the landowner with
the right to drain the restored wetland.
Subp. 3. Exemption (3). A replacement plan for wetlands •
is not required for: •
(3) activities necessary to repair and maintain existing
public or private drainage systems as long as wetlands that have
been in existence for more than 20 years are not drained.
This exemption allows maintenance which fills wetlands that
have been in existence for more than 20 years when the wetlands
are located within the right-of-way acreage of the ditch or
within a one rod width on either side of the top of the ditch,
whichever is greater, and the filling is limited to the side
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casting of spoil materials resulting from the maintenance and �•
the spoil deposition area is permanently seeded into grass after
maintenance activities are completed.
es The owner must provide documentation that the wetlands
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which will be partially or completely drained by the maintenance
have not existed for more than 20 years.
Aerial photographs from two years of normal or wetter than
normal water level conditions showing no wetland are one form of
acceptable documentation. If aerial photographs are
unavailable, a sworn affidavit may be submitted. Otherwise, the
landowner must show that the maintenance will not reduce the
of wetland from what it was 20 years ago or more.
ow This exemption includes lowering the elevation of
previously placed tile when made necessary by land subsidence
provided the lowering does not drain wetlands.
Subp. 4. Exemption (4). A replacement plan for wetlands
is not required for:
(4) ,activities in a wetland that has received a commenced
n drainage determination provided for by the federal Food Security
Act of 1985, that was made to the county agricultural
stabilization and conservation service office prior to September
19, 1988, and a ruling and any subsequent appeals or reviews
have determined that drainage of the wetland had been commenced
prior to December 23, 1985.
The landowner must provide Agricultural Stabilization and
Conservation Service documents confirming that the county
r agricultural stabilization and conservation service office
determined before September 19, 1988, that drainage had begun
before December 23, 1985, and that the determination has not
sed been overturned by subsequent appeal or review and is not
the currently under administrative review.
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Bonestroo,Rosene,Anderlik and Associates,Inc.is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity Employer
BonestrooOtto G.Bonestroo,P.E. Howard A.Sanford,P.E. Michael C.Lynch,P.E. Brian K.Gage,P.E.
Robert W.Rosene,P.E.• Keith A.Gordon.,P.E. James R.Maland,P.E. F.Todd Foster,P.E.
Rosene Joseph C.Anderlik,P.E. Robert R.Pfefferle,P.E. Jerry D.Pertzsch,P.E. Keith R.Yapp,P.E.
Marvin L.Sorvala,P.E. Richard W.Foster,P.E. Scott J.Arganek,P.E. Douglas J.Benoit,P.E.
Anderlik & Richard E.Turner,P.E. David O.Loskota,P.E. Kenneth P.Anderson,P.E. Shawn D.Gustafson,P.E.
Glenn R.Cook,P.E. Robert C.Russek,A.I.A. Mark R.Rolls,P.E. Cecilio Olivier,P.E.
Thomas E.Noyes,P.E. Jerry A.Bourdon,P.E. Mark A.Seip,P.E. Kent J.Wagner,P.E.
VI Associates Robert G.Schunicht,P.E. Mark A.Hanson,P.E. Gary W.Morien,P.E. Paul G.Heuer,P.E.
Susan M.Eberlin,C.P.A.• Michael T.Rautmann,P.E. Paul J.Gannon,A.I.A. John P.Gorder,P.E.
*Senior Consultant Ted K.Field,P.E. Daniel J.Edgerton,P.E. Dan D.Boyum,P.E.
Engineers &Architects
Thomas R.Anderson,A.I.A. A.Rick Schmidt,P.E. Jeffrey J.Ehleringer,P.E.
James R.Rosenmerkel,P.E. Dale A.Grove,P.E. Joseph R.Rhein,P.E.
Donald C.Burgardt,P.E. Philip J.Caswell,P.E. Lee M.Mann,P.E.
Thomas A.Syfko,P.E. Mark D.Wallis,P.E. Charles A.Erickson
October 27, 1995 Frederic J.Stenborg,P.E. Miles B.Jensen,P.E. Leo M.Pawelsky
Ismael Martinez,P.E. L.Phillip Gravel,P.E. Harlan M.Olson
Michael P.Rau,P.E. Karen L.Wiemeri,P.E. Agnes M.Ring
Thomas W.Peterson,P.E. Gary D.Kristofitz,P.E. James F.Engelhardt
Ms. Jeanne A. Mabusth
Building and Zoning Administrator
City of Orono
Post Office Box 66 _
Crystal Bay, Minnesota 55323 g 1995
"NOV
Re: Orchard Park Road Drainage
File No. 139-Gen
Dear Jeanne,
We have completed our survey of the drainage problem at 665 Orchard Park Road. The wetland south
of County Road 6 actually falls within the properties of 615, 665 and 745 Orchard Park Road. The water
level is now at elevation 982.1 which compares well with the 982.3 elevation recorded on the City's March
27, 1992 aerial photo. The culvert under Orchard Park Road to the east of the wetland is at elevation
987.2 and drains towards the wetland. The culvert under the driveway at 525 Orchard Park Road is at
elevation 980.0 and functions as the only overflow route for the wetland, which runs south. The water
in the wetland must now rise at least 1.1 feet higher before it flows overland.
A feasible solution to lower the water level in the wetland would be to excavate a shallow drainage swale
between the wetland and the driveway culvert. The grade on the swale would be a flat 0.3 percent, but
should function adequately during most rainfall events. This would require a permit because it would
be considered as draining a wetland protected under the Wetland Conservation Act (WCA). If the
swale is only"cleaned out"between the wetland and driveway culvert,but the water level is not lowered,
a permit may not be necessary. However,this would only allow the wetland to drain down quicker during
rainfall events but would maintain the existing water levels.
The most practical solution may be to locate any existing draintile line(s) leading from the wetland and
hire a plumber to repair/maintain the lines that function to lower the water level. A WCA exemption
is offered for maintaining existing tile lines. The tile line could be located more easily if the original
landowner is contacted, or possibly the Soil Conservation Service (Ed Musielewicz 757-4221) may have
the line shown on an old map. Installing a new draintile line would likely require a WCA permit.
Any solution would require that the property owner(s) hire a contractor to perform the work and form
an agreement or easement along the alignment which crosses the properties at 615 and 585 Orchard Park
Road. In addition, a WCA permit or exemption must be obtained from the Minnehaha Creek
Watershed District.
Please contact me at this office if you have any questions regarding this matter.
Yours very truly,
BONESTROO, ROSENE, ANDERLIK& ASSOCIATES, INC.
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Shawn D. Gustafson, P.E.
2335 West Highway 36 • St. Paul, MN 55113 • 612-636-4600
January 7, 2005
To: Mayor Peterson and Council Members
Ron Moorse, City Administrator
From: Greg Gappa, Director of Public Services 53 3.
Subject: Drainage 665 Orchard Park Road
The property owner at 665 Orchard Park Road has contacted the City regarding high water levels
in a pond located in the center of this property. These high water levels are restricting the use of
the western portion of the property for the grazing of horses. This issue has been an ongoing
concern for about the past 10 years. The pond area on this property is currently classified as Type
4 wetland by the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District(MCWD) as shown on the attached map.
The 2 foot contour lines on this map correspond very well with the MCWD Wetland designation.
These contours show a low drainage swale area through the center of all the properties on the
west side of Orchard Park Road.
Aerial photos of this area from the years 1955, 1975, 1989, 1994, and 2000 are also attached to
provide a historical perspective. Also included is a 1994 report from Pinnacle Engineering on
this issue. This engineering firm was retained by the property owner to review this situation.
According to then information in the Pinnacle Engineering Report,this property was purchased
by the current owners in 1985, and there was a small wet area on the northern portion of the
property which is observable on the 1975 and 1989 aerial photos. The 1994 photo appears to
show a darker color wet area extending further south on the property, and the 2000 photo shows
a ponding area across the entire property.
In October, City staff completed a site inspection of this property. The ponding area extends to
within about 5 feet of the fence on the south property line. The entire area downstream of the
pond is flat soft uneven ground with 5 foot high grass and it is difficult to tell if any grading has
recently been completed in this area. The property to the south, 615 Orchard Park Road, did not
have any standing water but appears to be poorly drained.
I have had a phone conversation with the owner of 615 Orchard Park Road. He purchased his
property in 1974 and stated that in the spring and other wet periods the low drainage area in the
center of the property is normally underwater. He also provided information on the history of
this area that he had obtained from Milton Thurber who had owned 665 Orchard Park Road since
at least 1955. In the 1950's,the property owners installed draintile across 665, 615, 585 which
outleted into the large wetland on 525 Orchard Park Road. This draintile was installed to drain
the existing wet area in the center of the properties so it could be farmed. The older air photos do
show that this area was being farmed. However, according to Mr. Thurber the area was always
marginal farmland even with the draintile. In the 1994 Pinnacle Report,the opinion is presented
that this area previously was (seasonally flooded&wet meadow wetlands) which calls into the
doubt how well this draintile system actually did function.
In 1987, a new house was built on 525 Orchard Park Road and there has been speculation that
the draintile system may have been damaged during the driveway construction. However,we do
not have any positive proof that the draintile was damaged at this time. The Pinnacle Report
alleges that in 1994 the property owner of 615 Orchard Park Road did work that impacted the
drainage in this area. In my recent phone conversation, this property owner stated that he has not
done anything impact the drainage in this area. Since this area is all private property, any
drainage projects would require easements from the property owners, and this property owner is
not interested in granting any easements for a drainage project.
Conclusion and Recommendations
This area was draintiled in the 1950's,the exact location and type of system installed is unknown
along with how good the system actually did function. Common practice at that time was to
install short lengths of clay pipe for draintile systems. This system is 50 years now, and the fact
that it is not functioning properly anymore is not surprising. There have been differing opinions
and allegation presented regarding this situation which does not provide any conclusive proof of
exactly what has transpired in this area. This area is all private property with almost all of water
draining off private property,with only a very minimal amount of water draining from City or
County Roads. The acquisition of easements would be required in order to complete a drainage
project and obtaining cooperation from all of the property owners could be difficult.
The City's policy for selecting drainage projects over the past several years has been to rank
projects in the following priority order.
• Projects to prevent flooding of structures. (No buildings are being threatened by the water
levels in this area.)
• Projects to prevent or correct erosion problems. (There is no existing erosion or the
potential for future erosion in this area.)
• Projects to correct wet areas with no structure damage or erosion are the lowest priority
In addition,the City funded drainage projects selected over the past several years were in high
density developed areas with substantial drainage from City streets. This project is in the low
density 5 acre zoning area with virtually no public road drainage causing problems.
Another consideration is the high value the City places on wetlands and ponds to reduce peak
flows and improve water quality, so the completion of a project to drain a wetland and convey
stormwater flows downstream faster is not in conformance with Orono's values and policies.
The City's long term plan is for more ponding to treat stormwater.
Also before the 1950's draintile installation to'allow farming this area was wetlands, and with the
draintile failure is reverting back to the previous natural conditions.
The staff recommendation is that this drainage issue is a low priority in terms of the City's
overall goals and policies for wetland protection, stormwater treatment, drainage goals, and the
current drainage situations.
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MI PinnaclePinnacle Engineering, Inc. • Tel:763 315-4501
/� i 101 Broadway Street West-Suite 100 Fax:763 315-4507
Engineering Minneapolis, Minnesota 55369 www.pineng.com
July 10,2003
Mr. Bill Peterson
Attorney at Law
3601 Minnesota Drive
Edina,Minnesota 55439
RE: Drainage/Wetland Issues
Pidgeon Property
665 Orchard Park Road
Orono,Minnesota
Dear Mr. Peterson:
Pinnacle Engineering, Inc. (Pinnacle) was recently retained by Ms. Madalen Pidgeon to
assess the wetland/drainage issues on her five-acre parcel of land located at 665 Orchard
Park Road (Site) in Orono, Hennepin County, Minnesota. Ms. Pidgeon reported and had
pictures documenting that her property has become increasingly inundated since she
purchased it in 1985. Our scope of work included visiting the Site to document the
current conditions,reviewing current and historic aerial photographs at the City of Orono,
and compiling our findings in this letter report.
Site Observation
Pinnacle visited the Site on July 10, 2003 to document the current Site conditions. The
Site visit revealed that there is currently a Circular 39, Type 4, deep marsh wetland at the
Site that extends to the north and south, beyond the Site boundaries. The northern
portion of the wetland is circular-shaped and is inundated with approximately 5-10 feet of
open water. Numerous dead trees were observed in this portion of the basin, indicating a
significant rise in the water levels that subsequently drowned these trees out. As the
wetland proceeds south, it narrows down to a linear area of open water that stops at the
Pidgeon's south property line, where there is a distinct vegetative and hydrologic change.
The wetland type changes from an open water, Type 4 deep marsh basin to a Type 2, wet
meadow wetland that is vegetated with reed canary grass and has minimal standing water.
No natural topographic changes were observed at the property line that would cause this
obvious change in wetland types. It appears that something at the south property line is
blocking the natural outlet, impeding the water from following its natural course to the
south into a separate wetland basin.
Minneapolis, Minnesota Rochester, Minnesota La Crosse, Wisconsin
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Aerial Photograph Review
Pinnacle reviewed aerial photographs and a wetland inventory of the Site at the City of
Orono on July 10, 2003 for the years 1955, 1970, and 1994. The 1955 photo did not have
a wetland inventory overlay; however, it appeared that the area of concern was wetland at
that time. The majority of the northern portion of the basin appeared to be dominated
with emergent vegetation, such as cattail, with minimal open water. The open
water/emergent vegetation barely extended south onto the Pidgeon property with the
remaining southern portions appearing to be a grassed swale that served as the wetland's
natural outlet. Being completely vegetated with emergent vegetation indicates shallower
water conditions then what are currently at the Site. The 1970 photo was similar to the
1955 photo and depicted the northern portion of the basin as being dominated by
emergent vegetation with a grassed swale to the south. The 1994 photo also depicted a
bulb-shaped wetland but revealed higher water conditions than the two earlier photos, as
evidenced by the absence of emergent vegetation. A dark colored object was observed in
the wetland at the south property line that could possibly be fill material that is blocking
the natural outlet, in turn, flooding the Pidgeon property. The city's wetland inventory
classified this wetland as a 1.9-acre, Circular 39 Type 4 wetland with peaty muck soils.
Background Information
In discussions with Ms. Pidgeon, she stated that she purchased the property in 1985. At
that time, the northern portion of the wetland barely extended onto her property and there
was a small open water area approximately 15 feet across with the remaining area to the
south being dry and functional land that she could easily traverse to get to access the
western portion of the property. During the fall of 1994, her neighbors, immediately
adjacent to the south, reportedly had a large tent and backhoe down in the wetland area
near the south property boundary and possibly placed fill material/construction debris
there. This appears to be blocking the outlet, flooding the Pidgeon property. In addition,
a second neighbor located southwest of the Site built a driveway in 1987 that bi-sects the
southern portion of the wetland/swale that may also impede the natural southern surface
water flow of the wetland. In the correspondence supplied by Ms. Pidgeon, it was
reported that the culverts under this driveway are set at an elevation of 980.0 feet mean
sea level (MSL), which is approximately two feet lower than the wetland elevation of
982.1; however, the water seems to be blocked at the south property boundary and does
not appear to be reaching these culverts.
Conclusions
In conclusion, it is Pinnacle's opinion that the majority of the current wetland area at the
Site was historically a Circular 39, Type 1 or 2 wetland swale (seasonally flooded & wet
meadow wetlands, respectively) that has had its natural outlet blocked at the Sites south
property line, and possibly further south at the driveway that bi-sects the wetland, which
has, in turn. flooded the Pidgeon property and changed the wetland type to a Circular 3Q
Type 4, deep marsh wetland. It is also possible that there was historically a drain tilc line
that helped drain this wetland that has since been rendered inoperable. Correspondence
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supplied by Ms. Pidgeon indicates that the City of Orono, the Minnehaha Creek
Watershed District, and Bonestroo Rosene Anderlink and Associates all visited the Site
during the mid 1990's, agreed that there is a drainage issue here, even recommended that
a swale be constructed, but nothing has been done to resolve the problem and the
Pidgeon's property has continued to be flooded. Pinnacle recommends lowering the
current water level to convert the wetland back to its original condition of a Type 1 or 2
swale.
Sincerely,
PINNACLE ENGINEERING,INC.
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Matt Bartus
Environmental Scientist
CC: Ms. Madalen Pidgeon