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Street Address: Mailing Address:
�CgHO 2150 Kelley Parkway P.O. Box 66
Orono, MN 55356 Crystal Bay, MN 55323-0066
John Trout
Hellmuth and Johnson
10400 Viking Drive
Suite 500
Eden Prairie Mn. 55344
Re; 900 North Shore Drive, Orono Mn. Porch Construction
Dear Mr. Trout,
This letter is to document the City Of Orono's position on work that was done at the
abc•.a referenced property without building permits or required inspections. The city will require
the current property owner to bring the work into compliance with the Uniform Building Code.
The city outlined concerns with the structure in a letter to the Pratts on June 6,2002. To
determine what needs to be done to the structure the framing elements and foundation need to be
exposed (the foundation is not shown on the original house plan and the city has no record of
inspection). The ceiling, walls and floor will need to be opened up for inspection. Once the
scope of work has been determined a building permit will be required. Inspections of the work
i&ill be required and when all pertinent code requirements have been met the city will close the
file on the porch. If you have any questions or if I can be of any assistance in this matter please
feel free to contact me at my office.
Sincerely
Lyle Oman
Building Official
Telephone(952)249-4600 • Fax(952)249-4616
www.ci.orono.mn.us
V SO Department of Administration
March 6, 2003
Ms. Patt Pratt
900 North Shore Drive West
Orono,MN 55364
RE: BCSD File 02.0158
Meeting recap
Dear Ms. Pratt:
This is a letter recapping the events that took place at your home on December 17, 2002.
You, Lyle Ohman, Orono Building Official, and I were present at that meeting.
The main purpose of that meeting from a Building Codes and Standards Division
standpoint was to verify proper code administration procedures from the local building
department. The initial concern was construction done without inspections at the home
under the previous owner.
The city followed proper procedures when it was discovered by the city that work was
done without proper permits. A permit was eventually issued for the deck portion of the
construction only after a stop work order was issued by the City of Orono. The city
addressed the concerns of the deck somewhat after the fact,being construction had begun
before a permit was issued. The city has confirmed that a less than adequate inspection
was performed by a previous inspector and has extended an apology.
In conclusion, it is the owners' and or the permit applicant's responsibility to secure all
permits and make the project accessible for all inspections as well as notify the
jurisdictional authority when work is ready for inspection.
If you have any further questions feel free to call me at 651-205-4562.
Sincerely,
BUILDING CODES AND STANDARDS DIVISION
CZ'ac � .
reg Karow
Building Code Representative
I:Groups/Investigations/Greg/Patt Pratt Itr.doc
Building Codes and Standards Division,408 Metro Square Building,121 7th Place East,St.Paul,MN 55101-2181
Voice:651.296.4639,Fax:651.297.1973;TTY: 1.800.627.3529 and ask for 296.9929
- �.. CITYof ORONO
s ti Municipal Offices
Street Address:
Mailing Address:
V'q$Egg04/' 2750 Kelley Parkway P.O. Box 66
Orono, MN 55356 Crystal Bay, MN 55323-0066
June 5, 2002
David &Patricia Pratt
900 North Shore Drive West
Orono, MN 55364
Re: Deck and Porch Construction
Dear Mr. & Mrs. Pratt:
This letter is to confirm findings of an inspection conducted on your property on 06-03-02 by
Marc Davis, Orono field inspector and myself, Lyle Oman, Orono building official. In reviewing
city records, no building permit was issued on the porch. Marc Davis stopped work on the Deck
when it was found to be under construction on 04-03-00. The footings and deck structure were
complete with the exception of guardrails. On 05-22-0®a building permit was issued for the
deck. The City had no further involvement until a final inspection was requested on 02-28-02.
Due to snow cover the inspector was unable to do a complete inspection. A handrail was called
out as a requirement and on 03-07-02 the inspector returned to approve the handrail.
On 06-03-02 the deck and porch were re-inspected due to concerns brought to your attention by a
contractor.
The following is a list of concerns and corrections on the porch and deck.
Porch
-No Footing Inspection Conducted
- soil conditions?
- footing depth?
- footing size?
- footing attachment to existing footings?
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CITY of ORONO
Municipal Offices
Street Address: Mailing Address:
' 'E*gg0g' 2750 Kelley Parkway P.O. Box 66
Orono, MN 55356 Crystal Bay, MN 55323-0066
-Block Foundation
-Block size?
-Material?
-Anchor Bolts?
- Sill Sealer?
-Insulation?
- Crawl Space
-Access Provided?
-Moisture Barrier Provided?
- Clearance to Joist Provided?
-Floor System
-Joist Size and Spacing?
-Floor Sheathing Material?
- Connection to Foundation and Existing Building?
-Wall Framing
- Stud Size and Spacing?
-Insulation?
-Headers?
- Siding?
-Flashing?
-Underside of cantilever must be covered with material that is resistant to decay
-Roof Framing
-Rafter Size and Spacing?
-Rafter to Wall Connection?
-Ridge Beam Size and Bearing?
- Sheathing Material?
-Underlayment?
- Shingle Installation?
- Valley Flashing?
- Wall Flashing?
-Poor Roof Design Allows Buildup of snow and ice
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CITY of ORONO
Municipal Offices
Street Address: Mailing Address:
` EggOg' 2150 Kelley Parkway P.O. Box 66
Orono, MN 55356 Crystal Bay, MN 55323.0066
-Deck Footings
-Depth?
- Soil Conditions?
-Footings size?
-Footings Material?
-Deck Posts are not Plumb
-Poor Connections to Joist
-Joist
-Joist are hung on a cantilever, support on Posts or provide structural Engineers report
-Beam Connection to other beams inadequate
-Joist hangers not nailed completely
-Decking
-Inadequately fastened to Joist
- Guardrail
-Minimum 36 inch high
A Building permit is required for the Porch addition and the above listed items will be required
to be inspected and corrected if found to be not in compliance with applicable codes.
The Deck footings need to be exposed for inspection and corrected if not in compliance with
applicable codes. The Deck framing issues above will be required to brought up to code.
Please contact me to discuss when these items can be resolved. If you have any questions feel
free to contact me at my office.
Sincerely,
Ly Oman
Building Official
cc: Marc Davis
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FRgj. : YOWGQUIST FAX N0. 9524959403 Jul. 17 2002 10:57AM P1
EAX DATE: July]7,2002
PACES INCLUDING COVER SHEET 3
TO: Orono City Offices ATTENTION: Mr. Lyle Oman
2750 Kelley parkway
Orono, Mn 55356
FAX: (952) 2494616
FROM: Tom Yowngq»ist
5295 Legend Hills Lane
Spring .Hill F134609
FAX: (352) 799-6602
NOTE: Regarding 900 Northshore Drive West
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July 17,2002
Attention:
Lyle Oman
Building Official
City of Orono Municipal offices
2750 Kelley Parkway
Orono,Mn 55356
Re: Porch compliance codes
Dear Mr. Oman
Attached please find a copy of a letter sent to the current residents of the 900
Northshore Drive west property. This correspondence was sent as a response, upon
racclpz oY a tacalinue 1nvilwallub draw— —9*1. ——rBornco oodonl an tko 3
season enclosure and the existing deck.
We are contacting you in regards to'what measures need to be taken, to provide
Qrono city records with satisfactory information to resolve these code compliance
concerns. At your earliest convenience, please contact us via fax with, iunformation
ug suggestion*on the least complev.stops than need to he toLmn by your office and
ourselves to clear code approval
We are confident that the 3-seasoned enclosure Is sound and are anxious to work
with the Orono city staff to satisfy information needs regarding the 3 season
enclosure applicable code issues.
Our current Pax number is: (352)799-6602. We are looking forward to your
response.
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
Tom Youngquist
cc: Sheila Youngquist
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June 22,2001
Dave and Pat Pratt
900 Northshore Drive west
Orono,MN 55364
naar nave and Pat:
We are writing you in regards to the information received via fax on June,13 2002 regarding
a city iuspection preformed 06-03.029 subsequent to the sale of the Nurthshore drive
property.
Tom and myself have reviewed the concerns and are confident that all parties have
established a favorable repor,wdich can instrument resolve for these issues.
Due to the anticipation of future financial constroints we arranged all inspections for the
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These inspection where preformed and the deck inspection finalized to the cities satisfaction
on 03-07-02,upon completion of a handrail. You will find the orange finalized inspection card
for the deck in the kitchen drawer. If you have missed placed it,please let us know and we
will be more than happy to look for our copy. It has also been brought to our attention that
the city is unable to find a permit order for the roof: The contractors name was given to you
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written final payment page from the contractor in the kitchen drawer. tis first name is Rale.
Our present concern is with the permit and city compliance code issues regarding the 3-
seasoned porch. It was our understanding that the permit acquired,covered the fuII
eon.Qtruction of both the deck and the 3-seasoned porch. This was due to the fact that
the
footingxa for the porch where present and pre inspected by the city,betore our purchase of the
.Northoore drive home. 11m cll.y al,ould have the foo6ag and depth impettinn nn fill»
we win COMMAM LUC CILY w w&a1.11012 11.s,V&"P% • lsroee.Iv.-e:..peoar..w:..O o.ioolnora rnnipliauar.
_• Infurulaliuu a cgarding the conotruatiola of the A-.+.-acnn pnrch. Due to our present ftnS11621
emrstraints we are hoping,the city can accommodate a more thorough inspection with the
least amount of exterior lnvaslventsis to the atructurc that°m poeeibla We are ennfiAArr[that
the structure read well beyond the code requirements for a 3-seasoned porch and are
looking torward w s amulut;va of thea&conoorne-
sincerely,
Shella Leigh Youngquist
COUNSELOR
realty ine.
September 25,2002
John T.'Trout,Esq.
Foley & Mansfield
fax#612-338-8690
Calvin R. Kuhlman
The Law Firm of Calvin R. Kuhlman
Fax#952-512-8973
RE: David & Patricia Pratt v Youngquist
From: Ken Leigh
Number of pages 5
Subject: Footings and concrete floor for future porch
I spoke to Stephen Johnston, the original ow r, of 900__North Shore rive.
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Stephen Johnston is President of Landform Engineering Co. . I asked Mr.Johnston
if he had any documentation pertaining to the footings for the 3 season porch. He
has faxed me the following information. If you have additional questions about the
3 season porch footings you may contact Stephen Johnston at 612-252-9070.
Sincerely,
Ken Leigh
Counselor realty,inc.
Ken and Jodi Leigh
From: "Steve Johnston"<sjohnston@landformrmp.com>
To: <kenandjodi@mindsprin9.00m>
sent Tuesday,September 24,200210:25 AM
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Doug Nord
BuildingCodes
and Standards Division
408 Metro Square Building �.
121 7hPlace East `" w
St. Paul, MN 55101-2181
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Dear Mr. Nord
Thank you talking witb me on the phone earlier this month
regarding a issue that my husband and I hi,, a with the Orono
housing inspections department,
I would ask that you please review and investigate our complaint
and see what if any recourse we have with this department.
As a review I will give you a short version of what I know to have
had occurred witb regard to inspections on, the home that I
urchoed ;his ear. 1c ,.Zdb
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„You may have., Also' of'Oro$o and � `''• `
going°to..the City vxewii�g :their
Ales will . I •in any-gaps that may occut:
In, May of this year any Husband and I purchased 14-year-old
home in the city of Orono. A few days after the closing while
having some remodeling done in, the kitchen a puddle of water on
the floor by the window was discovered. The head of the
construction company examined the"roof(which the dellers and:the
Realtor had told us had been replaced only 3-4 years earlier) and
. 11 said that it had been improperly installed ' ossibl .
to leak. p Y ca using a roof
I had a private house inspector come to the house to view the,rQof
as,a second,opin ion,and,he �
,agreed.ssying he was'suap' :
sedi ,
p`,assed, ihspection. rSinc 't�ld�tlia�"ev ' '� ' • ��`� � `•�'
MN BLDG CODES STDS 6512971973 12/12 '02 14:18 NO.190 03/05
been inspected by the city and approved I felt there was nothing
could do to recover damages except get the name of the cone'
who did the goof and view the warranty policy. It has since ee V
found out that the sellers cannot Y be a �
remember who did the roof and ,
since they paid cash for the work they also have no receipt. There pelf*
was no permit taken out and no inspection done on, the roof, which �
now needs to be replaced before more damage to the structure of
the house occurs.
The private inspector and the contractor also inspected other areas
of the house and at the end of the inspection mentioned that they
found something odd in regard to the footings on the deck that had
only been completed the previous year (bust by the s`ellers). The
found what they described as "concrete capping" on each Y
footings which they said would not be Stange except cb. of the
went down about 1 inch. They also found man, irregularities that
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they said again they were sure did not meet code� they only
standards at all.
They also pointed out that the deck was attached
to the also new
sunporch in a way that was sure to be out of compliance and that
the roofing to the sunporch was very much out of compliance with
any code that they knew of, and was swine to be causing water
damage to our home. Again they expressed surprise that it could
have passed inspection with the city.
A couple of days later my contractor called me to tell me that
while looking through some papers he found a notice from the city
of Orono signed by Marc Davis issued on. 3/31/00 for Deck with
i out permit. The sellers were to stop work immediately and get i
permit. On 2/28/02 (two years later) a deck inspection tooklace
III where the sellers were told to provide a gripable handrail on. the`
steps leading down to the yard, signed by Marc Davis. On 3/7/02
the final deck inspection took place and again Marc Davis signed
off on it saying "looks good".
MN BLDG CODES STDS 6512971973 12/12 102 14:18 NO.190 04/05
My contractor told us that there was no way that an, adequate
inspection could have taken place two years after the deck was e
built. The footings could not have been checked for depth
type. ' i
p ° '0
He also noted the footings dad not reach, deck height n '�
almost all cases and that the deck was severely compromised. I ��G?A% -f*
told him, I needed to have the city come out again to reinspect the 'c Y'0 *91
deck and the sunporch before I could tape any action against the SOY- '�
sellers.
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The City inspectors came out 6/3/02 and by the time they left they
wrote up two pages of violations including the handrail that had
been cited as the only correction the first time the deck was
aspected. I asked them since it was the ozl, thing that theyy had diad td!re:
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' inspect in February how could they have failed to grid it out of compliance
at that time. The inspector did not answer but just turned away and changed
the subject.
On June 5, 2002 a letter was written, by Lyle Oman to me and my
husband outlining all the concerns and corrections required by the
city regarding the deck and sunporch. It was touch more in depth
as to what was required to meet compliance than the June 3 notice.
It was also discovered that the sunporch had never had a permit
taken out on it and had never been inspected by the city even
though it was built at the same time as the deck. The sellers say
that the inspector who came out to issue the stop work notice was
aware that the sunporch was new construction but did not address
it saying they only needed a permit for the deck.
36cause the city did not correctly addreis the inspection of the
deck and sunporch x will now be responsible for all repairs instead
' ! tithe sellers. Estimates for take down and rebuilding of these
structures are at $60,000. These are expenses that I would not
have incurred had the city inspectors correctly inspected the
structures the first time and had the sellers made the necessary
repairs. My husband and I are taking the former owners to
MN BLDG CODES STDS 6512971973 12/12 '02 14:18 NO.190 05/05
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arbitration but they are claiming bankruptcy and will more than,
likely not be responsible for repayment.
I am asking that your department review this case because I feel
that the City of Orono has severely neglected it duties to the
taxpayers with regard to inspections, and has caused me to incur
thousands of dollars of expense that never should have been mine
in the first place. This is not a pleasant way to start as a now
taxpayer in a community.
I thank you for your time and again encourage you to contact me if
you have any further questions regarding this matter.
erely,
Pat batt
900 North Shore Drive West
Orono, MN 55364
952-472-0361
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