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Home My WebLink AboutRe: shared driveway '7 71�� /_S�i�`� � � Q� 0 0 � �'.'�r �„ C ITY of OR�NO t4 Muoicipal Offices `�� ' ' ' � G~ Street Address: Mailing Address: �`9Ii'EgH04'� 2750 Kelley Parkway P.O. Box 66 Orono, MN 55356 Crystal Bay, MN 55323-0066 January 30, 2008 Paula Johnson 3818 North Shore Drive Wayzata MN 5�391 Nancy and Marvin Blair 5501 Village Drive Edina MN 5�439 Greetin�s: I have heard from both Paula and Nancy that the arrangement of your shared driveway to North Shore Drive has become unworkable for a number of reasons. I've been asked what options are available. I have identified three: 1. �ince North Shore Drive is a county road, Hennepin County controls the number, location and size of driveways onto it. Dave Zetterstrom of the County Transportation Department indicates they would not approve two separated driveways. However they would approve two side by side driveways each wide enough for two-way traffic. To do this you w-ould need to a�ree upon the location of the driveways. You would each need a permit from Hennepin County Transportation Department for the portion of the driveway within the County right of way and a permit from the City for the portion of the driveway within the City right of way. Contact Dave Zetterstrom (612-�96-03��) for information about the county permit and me about the City permit.) 2. You could widen the existinb driveway where it enters North Shore Drive. This would require a permit from the County and the City. 3. Either or both of you could petition the City to construct Oak Place. The road would be 24 feet wide, would be centered in the right of way, and would extend to the north edge of Paula's driveway. There would be no parking allow°ed on this road and your individual driveways could be no wider than 20 when they intersected your property lines. The cost of constructing the road would the assessed to both properties and you would be expected to maintain it. You will be assessed all the administrative costs as well as actual construction costs. Telephone(9�2)249-4600 • Fax (952)249-4616 www.ci.orono.mn.us . Paula Johnson Nancy and Marvin Blair January 30, 2008 You should resolve your differences before the Blairs' house is finished as the portion of the driveway that drains to North Shore Drive must be paved before the certificate of occupancy is issued. Since this is a private disagreement City Staff cannot be involved in its resolution. You may want to consider using a mediation service. I've enclosed a pamphlet from the agency that serves this area. Sincerel , Evel n Turner City Planner Cc: Dave Zetterstrom , , ;�,o� . i/��>r.-_ � � CITY of ORONO " �� `a '��t�'.�' �� . � eo.aox� '� r$',, �,� j (C� I CRYSTAL BAY,MINNFSOTA 55323 � ! ��'�,��t��. G~;;' �� f � �j�� `\Esx�� ,�/ /%qi�l�� /Y��I ��A/!/ , � .�, �y(� (�77 /rch � / 0 SPr� �.L 3�ZZ,' �O� O � O ��= -- CITY of ORONO ��\ _ � ` �, � '� '� �lS� Municipal Offices � � =•� G Street Address: � � � Mailing Address: `9$j,+gH04' 2750 Kelley Parkway P.O. Box 66 � � Orono, MN 55356 Crystal Bay, MN 55323-0066 September 19, 2008 Bob Beissel Robert Beissel Homes 1718 Eagle Land Mound MN 55364 Dear Bob: As you are probably aware, the shared driveway arrangement between the Blair residence you are constructing at 3768 North Shore Drive and the Johnson residence at 3818 has disintegrated. Ms. Johnson intends to close off the existing driveway and construct a new driveway. T'he east edge of this driveway will be on the centerline of Oak Place. You will need to construct an adjacent driveway on the east side of the centerline abutting her driveway to provide access to the Blair residence. T'his driveway must be a minimum of 8 feet wide. A permit is required from Hennepin County as North Shore Drive is a County Road. The County may specify a wider minimum width and may specify a maximum width. For information on the permit contact Dave Zetterstrom at Hennepin County Transportation Department(612-596-0355). You must also obtain permission from Don DeBaere, Street Supervisor for the City of Orono (952-249-4600) for the work within Oak Place. In reviewing the Johnson proposal I realized that we failed to note on the permit that the driveway must be paved from the edge of the roadway to the point that it no longer drains toward the roadway. The Blairs were made aware of this requirement in a letter I sent them last January(copy enclosed). If you should have any questions feel free to contact me at 952-249-4623 or eturner@ci.orono.mn.us. Sincerely, Ev lyn Turner City Planner Cc: Dave Zetterstrom Don DeBaere Telephone(952)249-4600 • Fax(952)249-4616 www.ci.orono.mn.us August 22,2008 RECE�VED Evelyn Turner SEP p 2 2005 City Planner City of Orono C�N pp ORONO P.O.Box 66 Crystal Bay,NiN 55323-0066 Dear Evelyn, Both Paula and I did not think mediation would solve anything. She felt we were `ordered' to go to mediation by the City. If that is your thought we can reschedule. It is not a dispute. It is two different views: 1. Paula wants her own driveway. I say `fine' but carve it out of your own land. It can abut the county road. We can even put 3 signs down the middle that say`private drive' with arrows pointing to her driveway. She can use both sides. I and my family/friends, etc. can only use the county road side. No problem. 2. Paula wants her new driveway carved from tlie county road land which abuts my properiy. There aze many arguments against doing that which you probably are not interested in hearing right now. 3. I will not be applying for any permits. My concern is that if Paula applies for permits to proceed with using the county road that T will not be informed in time to appeaz and present my views to the Planning Comrnission or the County so I am enclosing my schedule to/from Florida and my card with both addresses. 4. We leave for Florida Qctober 5�,2008. Notices should be sent to our Florida address for October and November. We return to MN for the Holidays Dec 3'�. From January through April we will again be in Florida.. Hopefully the notice for approval of her permits will give me enough time to fly to MN. From what I read Mediation would only tell you that we disagreed See! Now you have the straight scoop. Thanks for keeping me informed. �;,��Z � Na�fcy Blair 5501 Village Dr #2Q5 Edina,MN 55439 952-829-0987 R��B�� June 2, 2008 �-�.�;f;J � � ,, ��; ��8 Nancy and Marvin Blair 5501 Village Drive ��`1�%�'!O Edina, MN 55439 I am responding in writing to your phone message of 6:30 a.m., May 16, to better clarify the situation and my stand and reasoning. I don't think you're looking at this from my position at all. You do not live there and don't experience the danger. You say the driveway has been this way since 1939 and you see no reason to change it. Perhaps, but County Road 19 has changed a lot in 70 years. I have been almost broadsided several times trying to pull out because the line of sight is impeded by the hill of dirt and the curve in the road. Turning into the driveway is also dangerous. With it being a one-lane, 90-degree turn with rock wail on one side an� hil� on the other, there is ne place for a divers�er�. !f there is any other veh�cle in the driveway, I have to stop quickly on the highway and risk a rear-end collision. I was almost hit by your builder when he was backing up in the driveway as I was entering. He couldn't see me and I couldn't back onto County 19. Luckily he heard my honking and stopped. But it's only a matter of time before there is an accident. I've nearly been run over when carrying water down to the street front area. I've also had a problem when your renters left a vehicle stuck in the driveway. There is no parking on County 19 and i do not have another option of getting in my garage if the driveway is plugged.A single-lane driveway does not work with this property. The time has come to have separate driveways. There is enough land for two side-by-side two- lane driveways and that is my request. Your claim that you don't want to expand the driveway because you want to limit the removal of dirt is disingenuous considering the mountain of dirt that is on view from the excavation to build a large new house. You are choosing your aesthetics over my safety. Since you have made it clear that you want me to provide your driveway along with its maintenance forever, I will file for a mediation conference and then appeal to the city. The city sent us a list of choices and "I don't want to change a thing"wasn't listed. You say will fight me on this, but it is the city you will have to fight and I believe that safety will be the primary concern. Please remember that this isn't a personal item. Neither of us is going to live there forever and we car't predict the behae�i�r of future o��mers. Thank you, � � )V---� � � � Paula J nson J V�(� /"`�� a 3818 N Shore Dr ` � �,�,,/� ' / '�(IQ Wayzata, MN 55391 V�, ,/��/►� l V� � `-" 612-726-2693 � � �� G�a , � Cc: City of Orono— Evelyn Turner 1�� QVI V�lnll�1 ��1 V�55 � �SL�nSS D� �,��w � � , � ,,,� �i� �n. Y�,��,�;�� r��; ,._ ,_ .___J. �, � � �� , � �::� � � ��=� � � � � �. N � � 3 a �.� x � \ ) � . --� .. . . �/ _ �a �. , � E' ,�-�--�-�� 3 7° `""� � � J � � -� .� � _` w.-�- o - P N -'- � 7� >r' � _ ._._-, o � •� p� , ..�._.-�-' ; ��''' �- . .. • .,�.. --� � G�i'�j� . �- x � � � �°� � N . Q � � ..,� �w • c� , � .� , � . ,, � c- � '� � � . � � �� _ � �h ,1t � a � � � �' 4 0 � , � m �+ � � � �° . � � � � � ,�� w ;�x � � ' o � �� ' � � , � ° m -o � � � a r � � T � � � � ��• � � � � � � + � � � � � ' � � �� xi � � S .� � � � � � � . 1 ' �v -� � � � � � � �,� ZZ . � � � � � � � ,� . ^ � � Z � � n -' � � � �'�-� � �, �> � � �' . ��; ... � °�`, ,, �� o o � � � ,�,. C ITY of ORONO � l�r Municipal Offices �� Street Address: Mailin Address: g \ 9kE3H�¢� 2750 Kelley Parkway P.O. Box 66 Orono, MN 55356 Crystal Bay, MN 55323-0066 October 27, 2008 Bob Beissel Robert Beissel Homes 1718 Eagle Land Mound MN 55364 Dear Bob: As you are probably aware, the shared driveway arrangement between the Blair residence you are constructing at 3768 North Shore Drive and the Johnson residence at 3818 has disintegrated. Ms. Johnson intends to close off the existing driveway and construct a new driveway. The east edge of this driveway will be on the centerline of Oak Place. You will need to construct an adjacent driveway on the east side of the centerline abutting her driveway to provide access to the Blair residence. This driveway must be a minimum of 8 feet wide. A permit is required from Hennepin County as North Shore Drive is a County Road. The County may specify a wider minimum width and may specify a maximum width. For information on the permit contact Dave Zetterstrom at Hennepin County Transportation Department (612-596-0355). You must also obtain permission from Don DeBaere, Street Supervisor for the City of Orono (952-249-4600) for the work within Oak Place. In reviewing the Johnson proposal I realized that we failed to note on the permit that the driveway must be paved from the edge of the roadway to the point that it no longer drains toward the roadway. The Blairs were made aware of this requirement in a letter I sent them last January (copy enclosed). If you should have any questions feel free to contact me at 952-249-4623 or eturner@ci.orono.mn.us. Sincerely, Evelyn Turner City Planner Cc: Dave Zetterstrom Don DeBaere Telephone(952)249-4600 • Fax(952)249-4616 www.ci.orono.mn.us Page 1 of 1 Don Debaere From: Johnson, Paula J [paula.johnson�nwa.comj Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 12:23 PM To: Don Debaere; Evelyn M.Turner; Lyle Oman Subject: 3818 N Shore Dr Driveway dilemma I need clarification and diredion on the development of my driveway. I have received conflicting information and constantly changing requirements. Every time I think I have performed all of the stated requirements, I get shut down and another hurdle tossed my way.The first time it was that I had to have a surveyor out to define the east edge of my properly-an extra$350. Then I was told I need an engineering quality drawing-an extra$500. Now the driveway project has turned into a road-building project according to the latest requirement change. What was a$3000-$5000 cost has increased to$15,000-$20,000. I have already invested over$1,000 and have absoiutety nothing but a survey stake and road plan on a piece of paper for the trouble. Not to rr�ention many, many hours of my time and the entire driveway building season gone. 1)Why has a driveway plan morphed into a new aty street for Orono?If I build a street,will the public be able to use it?Will Orono maintain it-and the snow rerr�oval and general maintenance? 2) How will the city ensure that both homeowners pay their fair share?When other streets are built in Orono, are the homeowners assessed for the entire cost?How is it divided and billed?This is now beyond my means to finance the neighbor's portion and yet you require the excavation be done in one session. 3)Why was this requirement sprung on me at the last moment'? I have followed all of Evelyn's letters and requests and no where did it say the driveway had to be developed using street-building specs.Who added this requirement and why?Under what authority? 4) If I do nothing,what will you require from the Blairs?How will you enforce it? I had another very close call last Fri trying to pull out of my driveway.All I am trying to accompUsh is a safe driveway wide enough for iwo vehicles and with adequate sight lines.Why has this turned into such a difficuft battle? It would've been simplest if from the start you would have vacated the land and allowed us to each build our own driveway under the rules of Hennepin County access. 11/18/2008 Page 1 of 1 Don Debaere From: Evelyn M. Turner Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 12:32 PM To: Soren Mattick Cc: Lyle Oman; Don Debaere Subject: FW: 3818 N Shore Dr Driveway dilemma I think we have a duck problem, tt will be in a dedicated right of way. It will look like a street. It will be constructed like a street. It will work like a street. I think it is a street. I'm out of this. ET From:Johnson, Paula J [mailto:paula.johnson@nwa.com] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 12:23 PM To: Don Debaere; Evelyn M.Tumer; Lyle Oman Subject: 3818 N Shore Dr Driveway dilemma I need clarification and direction on the development of my driveway. I have received conflicting information and constantly changing requirements. Every time I think I have pertormed all of the stated requirements, I get shut down and another hurdle tossed my way. The first time it was that I had to have a surveyor out to define the east edge of my property-an extra $350. Then I was told I need an engineering quality drawing-an extra$500. Now the driveway project has turned into a road-building project according to the latest requirement change.What was a$3000-$5000 cost has increased to$15,000- $20,000. I have already invested over$1,000 and have absolutely nothing but a survey stake and road plan on a piece of paper for the trouble. Not to mention many, many hours of my time and the entire driveway building season gone. 1)Why has a driveway plan morphed into a new city street for Orono?If I build a street,will the public be able to use it?Will Orono maintain it-and the snow removal and general maintenance? 2) How will the city ensure that both homeowners pay their fair share?When other streets are built in Orono, are the homeowners assessed for the entire cost? How is it divided and billed?This is now beyond my means to finance the neighbor's portion and yet you require the excavation be done in one session. 3)Why was this requirement sprung on me at the last moment?I have followed all of Evelyn's letters and requests and no where did it say the driveway had to be developed using street-building specs. Who added this requirement and why? Under what authority? 4) If 1 do nothing,what will you require from the Blairs? How will you enforce it? I had another very close call last Fri trying to pull out of my driveway.All I am trying to accomplish is a safe driveway wide enough for two vehides and with adequate sight lines.Why has this turned into such a difficult battle?It would've been simplest if from the start you would have vacated the land and allowed us to each build our own driveway under the rules of Hennepin County access. 11/18/2008 Page 1 of 1 Don Debaere From: Johnson, Paula J [paula.johnson�nwa.com] Sent: Monday, November 17,2008 12:23 PM To: Don Debaere; Evelyn M.Turner; Lyle Oman Subject: 3818 N Shore Dr Driveway dilemma 1 need cfarification and diredion on the development of my driveway. I have received conflicting information and constantly changing requirements. Every time I think I have performed all of the stated requirements, I get shut down and another hurdie tossed my way.The first time it was that I had to have a surveyor out to define the east edge of my property-an extra $350.Then I was told I need an engineering quality drawing-an extra $500. Now the driveway project has tumed into a road-building project aa:ording to the latest requirement change. What was a$3000-$5000 cost has increased to$15,000-$20,000. i have already invested ove�$1,000 and have absolutely nothing but a survey stake and road plan on a piece of paper for the trouble. Not to mention many, many hours of my time and the entire driveway building season gone. 1}Why has a driveway plan morphed into a new aiy street for Orono?If I buiid a street,will the public be able to use it?Will Orono maintain it-and the snow removal and general maintenance? 2) How will the aty ensure that both homeowners pay their fair share?When other streets are buift in Orono, are the homeowners assessed for the en6re cost? How is it divided and billed?This is now beyond my means to finance the neighbor's portion and yet you require the excavation be done in one session. � 3)Why was this requirement sprung on me at the last moment? I have followed all of Evelyn's lette�s and requests and no where did it say the driveway had to be developed using street-building specs.Who added this requirement and why?Under what authorily? 4)If I do nothing,what will you require from the Blairs?How will you enforce it? I had another very close call last Fri trying to pull out of my driveway.All I am trying to accompGsh is a safe driveway wide enough for two vehicles and with adequate sight lines. Why has this turned into such a difficutt battle? It would've been simplest if from the start you wou�l have vacated the land and allowed us to each build our own driveway. under the rules of Hennepin County access. 11/18/2008 Confiirmation Report — Memory Send Time : Oct-Z7-2008 10:36am Tei line : +9522494616 Name : CITY OF ORONO Job number . 306 Date . Oct-27 10:34am To . 6512235199 Document pa8es . 004 Start time . Oct-27 10:34am End time . Oct-27 10:36am Pases sent . 004 Status . OK Job number : 306 *** SEND SUCCESSFUL *** o��o C'i�y of O�-ono �� v a�so xBrzay pa�.�� P.O. Box 66 . Crystwl Bay, MN 55323 (9S�) 249-4600 Fmcr (9S2) ?49-46I6 FAX TItANSNIISSION COVER S�TRFT � na:�: � � a - a �f� o E3 . To: . . _ - .. F'ax: �'s/ s a.� J y�f � . 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Boz 66 Crystal Bay, MN 55323 (952) 249-460C� Fax: (952) 249-4616 FAX TRANSMISSION COVER SHEET Date: / p� a� ' � 7) To: Fa�: � - - 6 Re: Sender: YOU SHOULD RECEIVE PAGE(S), INCLUDING THIS COVER SHEET. IF YOU DO NOT RECEIVE ALL THE PAGES, PLEASE CALL (952) 249-4600. �°� � 0 0 �l �, O �Y'OYlO � � ��, �ti G �Eggp4'4' 2750 Kelley Parkway P.O. Box 66 Crystal Bay, MN 55323 (952) 249-4600 Fax: (952) 249-4616 FAX TRANSMISSION COVER SHEET Date: � Q -� �' Q � To: _ . Fax: „ � Re: t � ��" r o ' � n�� t� �'� S � f•! !/`P� p t� S Sender: - YOUSHOULD RECEIVE PAGE(S), INCLUDING THIS COVER SHEET. IF YOU DO NOT RECEIVE ALL THE PAGES, PLEASE CALL (952) 249-4600. , . �� C�°T �'� �.� �°� �S � ��!! IT � f�EA� I°T� � ��nni� �u�� in� ��ss�sse�r� o� �� C?�lTR��T�Ft 9�ERF�RN!l�l� THE �VC)RK. ♦ �EQlJI1�E� TI��lFFI� C��VTF��►L 51C;NI�t� SHALL �E ��I T�i� ,�C�� IT� AND PRC)�E�LY PL�ACE� PRI�R TU �TART OF JOB. � �� V�3� �►�L�V`J �WiU�i �h6� DE��6S �� 4�ClJMULATE �N ROADVi//�Yo ♦ PERIVIIT �XPIRES �i — i — os IF ENTRANCE 9S IVQ�� C�IVIP�ETED. C/�LL P�RMIT OFFICE (612) 596-0355 PRIOR �O .� �TA6��fItVG C�NST{qUC�'ION e�ND F�R INSPECI'ION. HC533G(6/00) . HENNEPIN COUNTY Transportation Department 1600 Prairie Drive—Medina, MN 55340-5421 Permit No. 4�55 DR/VEWAY OR STREET ENTRANCE PERM/T AND SPEC/AL PROVIS/ONS Field Inspected By: David Zetterstrom Date: 09/19/08 Location: #19 3768/3818 North Shore Drive Speed Zone: n/a ADT: 6900 Nearest Cross Street: (If Rural) Sight Distance: Actual- Left Right Minimum: Minimum - Left Right Curb to be removed to: � Construction Joint � Sawed Joint Recommended Drainage: X Surface ❑ Culvert Culvert Length Culvert diameter 1. CONSTRUCTION SPECIFICATIONS (Within Right of Way) BASE SURFACE CURB SIDEWALK SHOULDER BLVD/DITCH Type CL5 Equi Type 2341 BIT Type none Type Type Topsoil Depth 4" Min Depth 3" Min Design Depth Depth Depth 2. TRAFFIC CONTROL REQUIREMENTS Plate#2 3. SPECIAL PROVISIONS One 20' minimum, 30' maximum width shared private driveway entrance permitted per sketch. Approach to be common within County Road 19 right of way to ease turns into and from site. DO NOT PLACE CONCRETE ON COUNTY RIGHT OF-WAY WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CALL (612) 596-0355 IDisgram A � Diagram B R� IMPORTANT: TYPE"a"CONSTRUCT ROUNDED BERM TO C�` IMPORTANT: CONS7RlfC7 SWALE TO DIVERT WATER FROM ' PREVENT WATSR FRC.'!:7 R!lIVNtNG DOWM SHOULDER. �� OR1 VE. I �6•• 2"Gutter 6"$wale . ,�$•privawaY . � . ... . . _s., . . w. .. .�.�.. Dr'rleweV �� Ezisting R oadway f��. Shoulder Shoulder . f Place culvert i�existing ditcfi Final Inspection Date: APPROVEDf�NfEB: ❑ Satisfactory HENNEPIN COUNTY Driveway was found to be: ❑ Unsatisfactory Transportat' Inspected By: gy. ----� Date: `�— 2 Z -�� HC 5329 �00) ENTRANCE HENNEPIN COUNTY �.�' CE+ � "�"'�°� PERMIT FEES Transportation Department �,j�5'� �A� Planning Division SEP 1 S 2008 '° Se "'y siNc� 1600 Prairie Drive RESIDENTIAI. sso.00 Medina,Minnesota 55340 ��,: TEMPORARY $100.00 " COMMERCIAIJ AP�'UCAT/ON FOR DR/VEWAY OR STREET ENTRANCE PE MIT srn�� $zoo.00 (READ:"General Requirements"on the Reverse Side) �E �T TELFPHONE PAGEFFI6EtL FAX �� .'4- �l'r N�� (�1�-- ?Il.v- - � l�(�7 �'`!.6 � � � � STA � �� E��D�n'�� , 1 STREET ADDRESS CfTY STATE ZJP CODE � �i�l/T' /� � C� 7 O I I l._ CONT CTORPERFORMWGWORKQFKNOWM S'ff2�iADDRESS CfTY STATE �PCODE �. L J ' C�YL�`l:k.Y.-�1�D 1✓�1(�/ `753� 2.• APPLICATION IS HEREBY MADE FOR PERMISSION T0.CONSTRUCT AND THEREAFTER � DRIVEWAY(S) PUBLIC MAINTAIN ❑ STREETS 3. BUILQING TO BE CO�STP,UCTED: NO � YES � RESIDENCE ❑ SPECI�TYPE) 4. DRIVEWAY OR STREET WILL BE: � TEMPORARY � PERMANENT DATE PROPOSED ENTRANCE WILL BE NEEDED 5. IS THE PROPERTY: � PLATTED � UNPLATTED NUMBER OF PRESENT DRIVEWAYS � OR OTHER ENTRANCES TO PROPERN crn'Q��J�" `.' a�ear r+u►� 6. BUILDINGPERMITACQUIRED: NO � YES ,� i 7. TYPE OF PROPOSED ENTRANCE SURFACE: � BITUMINOUS � CONCRETE � ROCK � OTHER LOCATION-S7REEfADDRES COUNTY.ROAD CITY s. � S� �' (�� - Sl f✓b , � noN-Ruww ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ rmao oR srn�r 9' ON RURAL ROAD MILES ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑ OF DATE PRINTED NAME qp S�ryp � I� Sf ��`� ��.��- �c��s�ne � TO HELP THE INSPECTOR,PLACE STAKE WITH A CLOTH A7TACHED, IN THE ER OF THE PROPOSED ENTR.4NCE RND H/GHER THAN ANY SURROUND/NG VEGETAT/ON. APPLICANT'S DIAGRAM(IF SITE/CONSTRUCTION PLAN IS NOT SUBMITTED) :� pS�' �� S� � . �n f� , � �,� � �c��, ,�,�� S�� -� �`6 P,�-� ' �,�, ��` � �, a,�, (,� ,�.� , '��{� t t � �Jt� -' ,� �_ �� - �/ � . --- - �'�'� �. --- - � -��.- ---- ��J 1 �� . � � 7 � � c � (� r „�^A 1 1 - --- Complete this form and send all copies to: Hennepin County � �f�X , �� lq � Transportation Department, Planning Division, 1600 Prairie Drive, ,�n�- � �� `�,� '� 1�� Medina, Minnesota 55340. 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R� ,�° , ~`"��N01tTH S�""�"''' �f�� -._ ��'�� : ir� ��:. +�.�,►;� A�m�(.�`��i*�.'' ��"��..��'� � � . `�� , � �a 1.� r9 "�. r '�� L�L.) � "F �� ' • �� . ...- �� y,�a�� , x � � . � .,. .. ��••- ,. � ...?S� k�.; v �_tr_? � 4 ��....�rr .... . � � �� . 1 s � Y�.;r. �� ',1+ � ��, � Selected Parcel Data Date P�nted: io/a/2oos i:a6:36 PM Parcel ID:OS-117-23-34-0060 Current Parcel Date: 30/3/2008 Owner Name: PAULA]JOHNSON Parcel Address: 3818 NORTH SHORE DR,ORONO,MN 55391 Property Type: RESIDENTIAL LAK Sale Price: ;0.00 Homestead: HOMESTEAD Sale Date: / Area(sqft):43336 Sale Code: Area(acres): 0.99 A-T-B:TORRENS Market Total: ;488,000.00 Tax Totai:;3,800.92 http://gis.co.hennepin.mn.us/HCPropertyMap/Locator.aspx?PID=0811723340060 10/3/2008 December 2, 2008 Paula Johnson 3818 North Shore Drive Wayzata, MN 55391 Marvin and Nancy Blair 5501 Village Drive, #205 Edina, MN 55439 Dear Ms. Johnson and Mr. and Ms. Blair: Please be advised that this law firm represents the City of Orono. I am writing this letter in the hopes that I will be able to clarify the City's position regarding the proposed work within the City's right-of-way(Oak Place)that provides each of yow homes access to North Shore Drive. The City has r�;eived a proposed plan prepared by Crronberg& Associates, Inc., dated November 5, 2008. It is my understanding that this plan was prepared for Ms. Johnson. The City has reviewed the plan and the City Engineer has provided comments. Provided that the plan dated November 5, 2008, as well as the Engineer's comments are followed,the City has approved the proposed plan. The current design, as approved by the City, is necessary to satisfy Hennepin County, the City Code and the F've Marshal. There have been questions re�arding who is responsible for the installation, payment, and ultimate maintenance of the access bein�placed within the City's right- of-way. The City will not be contributing any money toward the construction that is being proposed within the Oak Place right-of-way. Furthermore,the City will not mairrtain or plow this area. It is up to each of you to decide how the expenses for this project will be split between the two of you. If you have any questions re�ardin�this correspondence please feel free to contact me at(b51)2346217. Very truly yours, CAMPBELL KNUTSON Professional Association By: Soren M. Mattick SMM/jmo Cc: William Wells, Orono City Administrator Tom Kellogg, Orono City Engineer ,' � ��'�;�,- �s1 _-a 3 �� a l� _ �'l�� ` - � �-� .---,, -� � 95`�- �7 l 5 //, � \,\� ,�1,�, (1��'7 a� - a 6 y 3 , %� '�' `�`�, � � �- qa�- 6a� // 0 � �` � � � `� 3 I' � CITY of ONO i ,� �,��,�, �, �,; ,��, �r � � �� , „ �\`,', �� ;�, �� Municipal Offices j,}� � �.�. �'�5�1' ,��k IU� �(\� /�,�/� � � �'r��l.�� ,.�� ,=;� "�� . ��'�°�"� Street Address: aili g Ad�ress. `��'EggOg'% 2750 Kelley Parkway P.O. Box 66 �� _ - " Orono, MN 55356 Crystal Bay, MN 55323-0066 September 19, 2008 ��1_. .{� ��„ ,° —��.,�,Q.. V��' � ..(P' '�dI1�tI /�,�v�/�J Q,�r�- .r.� B�b Beissel v � q��' �a-�`� q � �5��- �$'�''� 7�/ Robert Beissel Homes ��,i1�K. °� "� 3 ' 0 � 1718 Eagle Land �� Mound MN 55364 Dear Bob: As you are probably aware, the shared driveway arrangement between the Blair residence you are constructing at 3768 North Shore Drive and the Johnson residence at 3818 has disintegrated. Ms. Johnson intends to close off the existing driveway and construct a new driveway. The east edge of this driveway will be on the centerline of Oak Place. You will need to construct an adjacent driveway on the east side of the centerline abutting her driveway to provide access to the Blair residence. This driveway must be a minimum of 8 feet wide. A permit is required from Hennepin County as North Shore Drive is a County Road. The County may specify a wider minimum width and may specify a maximum width. For information on the permit contact Dave Zetterstrom at Hennepin County Transportation Department (612-596-035�). You must also obtain permission from Don DeBaere, Street Supervisor for the City of Orono (9�2-249-4600) for the work within Oak Place. In reviewing the Johnson proposal I realized that we failed to note on the permit that the driveway must be paved from the edge of the roadway to the point that it no longer drains toward the roadway. The BIairs were made aware of this requirement in a letter I sent them last January (copy enclosed). If you should have any questions feel free to contact me at 952-249-4623 or eturner@ci.orono.mn.us. Sincerely, 6,�,,,/ �� _ 4 I� / 1 4 �`�! F�� Ev�lyn Turner City Planner � — .,,� � �° � � � 3 _ �� y � Cc: Dave Zetterstrom Don DeBaere Telephone(952)249-4600 • Fax(952)249-4616 www.ci.orono.mn.us Page 1 of 1 Don Debaere From: Johnson, Paula J [paula.johnson�nwa.com] Sent: Monday, November 17,2008 12:23 PM To: Don Debaere; Evelyn M.Turner; Lyle Oman Subject: 3818 N Shore Dr Driveway dilemma 1 need clarification and direction on the development of my driveway. i have received conflicting information and constantly changing requirements. Every time I think I have performed all of the stated requirements, I get shut down and anothe�hurdle tossed my way.The first time it was that I had to have a surveyor out to define the east edge of my property-an extra$350. Then I was told I need an engineering quality drawing-an extra$500. Now the driveway project has turned into a road-building project according to the latest requirement change. What was a$3000-$5000 cost has increased to$15,000-$20,000. I have already invested over$1,000 and have absoiutely nothing but a survey stake and road plan on a piece of paper for the trouble. Not to mention many, many hours of my time and the entire driveway building season gone. � 1)Why has a driveway plan morphed into a new aiy street for Orono?If I build a street,will the public be able to use it?Will Orono maintain it-and the snow removal and general maintenance? 2) How will the city ensure that both homeowners pay their fair share?When other streets are built in Orono, are the homeowners assessed for the entire cost? How is it divided and billed?This is now beyond my means to finance the neighbor's portion and yet you require the excavation be done in one session. 3)Why was this requirement sprung on me at the last moment? I have followed all of Evelyn's letters and requests and no where did it say the driveway had to be developed using street-building specs.Who added this requirement and why?Under what authorily? 4) If I do nothing,what will you require from the Blairs?How will you enforce it? I had another very close call last Fri trying to pull out of my driveway.All I am trying to accomplish is a safe driveway wide enough for two vehicles and with adequate sight lines.Why has this turned into such a difficu� battle? It would've been simplest if from the start you would have vacated the land and allowed us to each build our own driveway under the rules of Hennepin County access. 11/18/2008 � . . � � �� , ; , I T�; i -�= \� � I � �-- I I � � � I I �� I '�� I I I �� . 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