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HomeMy WebLinkAboutRe: to property owner re PC mtg _...� --� � �.� _ _ �Mike Gaffron NOTICE OF PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION and Response to Your E-Mail � � Page�1 , From: Mike Gaffron To: DICK ANDERSON Date: 4/25/01 9:56AM Subject: NOTICE OF PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION and Response to Your E-Mail Rich - Here's a punch list of the comments from the neighbors as gleaned from the draft minutes of the Planning Commission meeting: 1. A number of neighbors are concerned about the traffic impacts on North Shore Drive. 2. A number of neighbors are concerned about impacts to boat traffic on the lake, crowding, added pollution due to more traffic in the bay (I assume by pollution they mean fumes, trash, noise, visual clutter from more boats, etc.). 3. Rick Windenburg, 3200 North Shore Drive was concerned about noise from the added dry stack activity, also was unhappy with the bell that calls someone to the gas dock; also unhappy with his view of the back side of the buildings, needing paint, etc. Also noted occasional problem with people cutting across his property. 4. Robert Waade indicated concern about the debris and storage along west side of service building, and suggested a fence would help, also had concerns about dogs in his yard 5. Dennis Libby, 3210 North Shore Drive had a concern about late partying at the marina docks. Rich, all things considered I think many of the problems expressed by the neighbors are solvable: a) A 6' high Privacy Fence along both lot lines will stop people and dogs from trespassing onto the neighbors. b) Clean up the storage/debris behind the service building and plant some arbor vitae that will provide screening to the west side of the building during all seasons. c) Clean up whatever stuff is behind the office building and paint the backs of all the buildings that need painting. d) Come up with something other than the bell for the gas dock. e) Keep after your customers about being rowdy late at night! The "impacY' of the added dry stack usage on vehicle traffic and on actual boating activity on Maxwell Bay is not easy to measure, other than for you to keep a daily record of how many dry stack boats you put on the water. I agree that adding 52 dry slips will not immediately result in 52 more boats on the Bay every day, nor will it add 52 car trips a day to North Shore Drive. But we don't know the impact until we have some actual numbers. Why don't you call Gabe or Rockvam and see if they can tell you what we should expect in terms of how often a given boat will typically be used. PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION: Planning Commission voted 5-0 to table the application at your request in order to give you time to: 1) put together a formal parking plan layout; 2) put together an updated landscaping plan; and 3) address specific neighbor concerns as noted above. Planning Commission seemed very positive about approving a phase-in of the additional dry-stacks over a period of a few years. The next Planning Commission meeting is May 21, and I know you are getting busy. The deadline for getting me new info (landscape plan, parking plan)would be May 15 at the latest. However, there is no rush to get this all completed for that meeting, you can delay until June if you wish, or even later if necessary. However, I do need to have you sign a waiver of the 60-day review period required by State statutes (City has 60 days from the date of complete submission of your application, which was April 5, to i e =� ron - N I M N an esponse to our - ai age , ' approve or deny your request). I will send the waiver form out and vou need to siqn and return it. If you want a copy of the minutes I will send the draft minutes out also. We can get together at your convenience to discuss any of the above topics,just call (952-249-4600). Thanks! i e a ron - w: A I I I age From: "DICK ANDERSON" <NORTHSHOREMARINA@worldnet.att.net> To: <MGAFFRON@CI.ORONO.MN.US> Date: 4/23/01 12:20PM Subject: Fw: ITEMS OF CONCERN AS IT PERTAINS TO NEIGHBORS/PLANNING COUNCIL ---Original Message----- From: DICK ANDERSON To: MGAFFRON@CI.ORONO.MN.US Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 12:09 PM Subject: ITEMS OF CONCERN AS IT PERTAINS TO NEIGHBORS/PLANNING COUNCIL DEAR MIKE: AS I REMEMBER SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS CONCERNS AND WITH TALKING TO THEM AFTER THE MEETING, THIS IS THE LIST I RECALL. PLEASE ADD TO IT AS YOU REMEMBER. 1)WE HAD SOME PIPES AND OLD LIGHT ALONG SIDE OF THE MAIN OFFICE BUIILDING. THEY ARE NOW IN THE DUMPSTER. 2)THERE WAS SOME JUNK BEHIND THE LITTLE HOUSE THAT IS HALF WAY DOWN THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE EAST SIDE AND, ADDITIONALLY, THERE WERE SOME BOARDS OFF EXPOSING THE WATER HEATER AND FURNACE. THE BOARDS HAVE BEEN REPLACED AND THE JUNK IS NOW IN THE DUMPSTER. WE STILL HAVE SOME BOARDS STACKED NEATLY IN AN INCONSPICUOUS PLACE, HOWEVER, THOSE COULD BE MOVED IF NEED BE. 3) IN HANDLING THE ISSUE WITH MR WAADE,AS WAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED WITH LYLE AND THE PLANTING OF TREES, I DON'T THINK(IN THE LONG RUN)THAT MR WADE WILL BE SATISFIED WITH THAT SOLUTION. HE IS THE ONLY NEIGHBOR THAT I DID NOT GET TO CHAT WITH AFTER THE MEETING, BUT I'M THINKING THINGS WON'T BE TO HIS LIKING UNTIL WE BUILD A FENCE. I THINK WE SHOULD WORK TO THAT SOLUTION. 4) I NEED TO REPAINT THE BACK SIDE OF THE OFFICE BUILDING AND I GIVE YOU MY WORD THAT WILL BE DONE ASAP, BUT PROBABLY NOT UNTIL WE SLOW DOWN A LITTLE (LIKE THE 10TH OF JUNE OR SO). 5) PARKING DIAGRAM AND LANDSCAPING PER THE COUNCIL. UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE IN OUR BUSY TIME, BUT, I WILL TRY TO GET THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. MAYBE WE CAN MEET TO DISCUSS THAT. THANKS; RICHIE i e a on- w: I AS I I age From: "DICK ANDERSON"<NORTHSHOREMARINA@woridnet.att.net> To: <MGAFFRON@CI.ORONO.MN.US> Date: 4/23/01 12:20PM Subject: Fw: ITEMS OF CONCERN AS IT PERTAINS TO NEIGHBORS/PLANNING COUNCIL —Original Message-- From: DICK ANDERSON To: MGAFFRON@CI.ORONO.MN.US Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 12:09 PM Subject: ITEMS OF CONCERN AS IT PERTAINS TO NEIGHBORS/PLANNING COUNCIL DEAR MIKE: AS I REMEMBER SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS CONCERNS AND WITH TALKING TO THEM AFTER THE MEETING, THIS IS THE LIST I RECALL. PLEASE ADD TO IT AS YOU REMEMBER. 1)WE HAD SOME PIPES AND OLD LIGHT ALONG SIDE OF THE MAIN OFFICE BUIILDING. THEY ARE NOW IN THE DUMPSTER. 2)THERE WAS SOME JUNK BEHIND THE LITTLE HOUSE THAT IS HALF WAY DOWN THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE EAST SIDE AND,ADDITIONALLY, THERE WERE SOME BOARDS OFF EXPOSING THE WATER HEATER AND FURNACE. THE BOARDS HAVE BEEN REPLACED AND THE JUNK IS NOW IN THE DUMPSTER. WE STILL HAVE SOME BOARDS STACKED NEATLY IN AN INCONSPICUOUS PLACE, HOWEVER, THOSE COULD BE MOVED IF NEED BE. 3) IN HANDLING THE ISSUE WITH MR WAADE,AS WAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED WITH LYLE AND THE PLANTING OF TREES, I DON'T THINK(IN THE LONG RUN)THAT MR WADE WILL BE SATISFIED WITH THAT SOLUTION. HE IS THE ONLY NEIGHBOR THAT I DID NOT GET TO CHAT WITH AFTER THE MEETING, BUT I'M THINKING THINGS WON'T BE TO HIS LIKING UNTIL WE BUILD A FENCE. I THINK WE SHOULD WORK TO THAT SOLUTION. 4) I NEED TO REPAINT THE BACK SIDE OF THE OFFICE BUILDING AND I GIVE YOU MY WORD THAT WILL BE DONE ASAP, BUT PROBABLY NOT UNTIL WE SLOW DOWN A LITTLE (LIKE THE 10TH OF JUNE OR SO). 5) PARKING DIAGRAM AND LANDSCAPING PER THE COUNCIL. UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE IN OUR BUSY TIME, BUT, I WILL TRY TO GET THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. MAYBE WE CAN MEET TO DISCUSS THAT. THANKS; RICHIE i e a on- an esponse to our - ail age � From: Mike Gaffron To: DICK ANDERSON Date: 4/25/01 9:56AM Subject: ��NOTICE OF PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION and Response to Your E-Mail .....,,. Rich- Here's a punch list of the comments from the neighbors as gleaned from the draft minutes of the Planning Commission meeting: 1. A number of neighbors are concerned about the traffic impacts on North Shore Drive. 2. A number of neighbors are concemed about impacts to boat traffic on the lake, crowding, added pollution due to more tra�c in the bay(I assume by pollution they mean fumes, trash, noise, visual clutter from more boats, etc.). 3. Rick Windenburg, 3200 North Shore Drive was concerned about noise from the added dry stack activity, also was unhappy with the bell that calls someone to the gas dock; also unhappy with his view of the back side of the buildings, needing paint, etc. Also noted occasional problem with people cutting across his property. 4. Robe�t Waade indicated concern about the debris and storage along west side of service building, and suggested a fence would help, also had concerns about dogs in his yard 5. Dennis Libby, 3210 North Shore Drive had a concern about late partying at the marina docks. Rich, all things considered I think many of the problems expressed by the neighbors are solvable: a) A 6' high Privacy Fence along both lot lines will stop people and dogs from trespassing onto the neighbors. b) C�ean up the storage/debris behind the service building and plant some arbor vitae that will provide screening to the west side of the building during all seasons. c) Clean up whatever stuff is behind the office building and paint the backs of all the buildings that need painting. d) Come up with something other than the bell for the gas dock. e) Keep after your customers about being rowdy late at night! The"impact"of the added dry stack usage on vehicle traffic and on actual boating activity on Maxwell Bay is not easy to measure, other than for you to keep a dailv record of how many dry stack boats you put on the water. I agree that adding 52 dry slips will not immediately result in 52 more boats on the Bay every day, nor will it add 52 car trips a day to North Shore Drive. But we don't know the impact until we have some actual numbers. Why don't you call Gabe or Rockvam and see if they can tell you what we should expect in terms of how often a given boat will typically be used. PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION: Planning Commission voted 5-0 to table the application at your request in order to give you time to: 1) put together a formal parking plan layout; 2) put together an updated landscaping plan; and 3) address specific neighbor concerns as noted above. Planning Commission seemed very positive about approving a phase-in of the additional dry-stacks over a period of a few years. The next Planning Commission meeting is May 21, and I know you are getting busy. The deadline for getting me new info(landscape plan, parking plan)would be May 15 at the latest. However, there is no rush to get this all completed for that meeting,you can delay until June if you wish, or even later if necessary. However, I do need to have you sign a waiver of the 60-day review period required by State statutes(City has 60 days from the date of complete submission of your application,which was April 5, to .ron- OTI P NI G O 5 T O an esponse to Your -Mail Page 2 . approve or deny your request). I will send the waiver form out and vou need to siQn and return it. If you want a copy of the minutes I will send the draft minutes out also. We can get together at your convenience to discuss any of the above topics,just call(952-249-4600). Thanks!