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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR ORONO COUNCIL MEETING HELD JUNE 24, 1985_ PAGE 1
ATTENDANCE 7:00 PM The Orono Council met on the above date with the following
members present: Mayor Butler, Councilmembers Grabek,
Lynn Adams, and Frahm. Councilmember Tim Adams arrived at
7 : 05 p.m. City Attorney Radio and City Engineer Cook were
present. The following represented the City staff : City
Administrator Bernhardson, Building & Zoning Administrator
Mabusth, Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron, Public
Works Coordinator Gerhardson, and City Recorder Sutton.
CONSENT AGENDA* Councilmember Frahm asked that item #24 be removed from the
Consent Agenda for discussion.
Councilmember L. Adamsmoved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to approve the Consent Agenda* subject to it�m #24 being
removed for discussion, with all staff reports concerning
these items to be attached to an original copy of these
minutes on file at the City Clerk' s office. Motion, Ayes
( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
APPROVAL OF MINUTES*
Councilmember L. Adamsmoved, CouncilmemberFrahm seconded,
to approve the regular Council minutes of June 10 , 1985 .
Motion, Ayes (4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
BOARD OF REVIEW MINUTES*
Councilmember L. Adamsmoved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to approve the Board of Review minutes of June 10 , 1985 .
Motion, Ayes (4 ) , Nays (0 ) .
PARR COMMISSION COMMENTS
There were no Park Commission comments.
LARE MINNETONRA CONSERVATION
DISTRICT REPORT Jo Ellen Hurr was present. Hurr informed the Council that a
public hearing will be held on August 14 , 1985 regarding
boats stored within frontage of any residential lot. Hurr
noted that the City will receive a letter notifying them of
the public hearing. Hurr noted that the idea is that any
residential dock can have four boats if they belong to the
people who live there and must prove to the LMCD that they own
all four boats. Hurr stated that the attorney is handling
discussions with Chaska Marina but has received no response
from Chaska Marina. Hurr noted that North Shore Drive
Marina has a setback violation and the matter has been turned
over to the LMCD attorney. Hurr reminded the Council that
the boat trip will be held August 3, 1985 to review the
commercial marina operations of Lake Minnetonka.
Mayor Butler asked Hurr about Chaska Marina. Butler noted
that the redesign of the docks is better for the neighbors and
something that Chaska Marina has agreed upon.
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Jo Ellen Hurr stated that the LMCD denied Chaska ' s request
because they could not prove any hardship and the LMCD was not
willing to grant any variances.
PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS
There were no Planning Commission comments.
PUBLIC COMMENTS Terry Morse of 2080 Spates Avenue was present. Morse asked
the Council what is the purpose of adopting a resolution
declaring �hat City properties are exempt from special
assessments.
City Administrator Bernhardson stated that at the last
meeting, Council directed that a resolution be adopted
indicating that the City would have f ive sewer units which
will be included on the assessment roll.
Terry Morse of 2080 Spates Avenue asked what will keep the
City on the assessment roll.
City Administrator Bernhardson stated that the assessment
has already been spread and if the City were to remove that
assessment, the assessment would go back to the City budget.
Bernhardson stated that at this point in the Crystal Bay
sewer project the City cannot change the number of units
without taking monies f rom the general tax rolls to pick up
the difference. Bernhardson noted that in the resolution
assigning five units to the City, it notes that the City will
not reduce the number of units assessed against it unless
there is a general reduction of units in the project.
#896 JAMES ANDERSON
GEORGE LEVERING
2280 & 2300 FOX STREET
FINAL SUBDIVISION
RESOLUTION #1781* Councilmember L. Adams moved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to adopt Resolution #1781, A Resolution approving the plat of
Bill Kelley' s Land First Division. Motion, Ayes (4 ) , Nays
(0 ) .
#913 PAUL PHILLIPS
2160 SIXTH AVENUE NORTH
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION
PaulPhillipswas present. Building & Zoning Administrator
Mabusth noted that the applicant proposes a division of a
portion of his homestead property of approximately 12 acres ,
portions of which are located in the City of Medina. Mabusth
noted that the obvious building sites fall within the Orono :
portions. Mabusth noted that access to Lots 3 and 4 will be
shared via the existing driveway. Mabusth advised the
applicant that at the time he sells of f Lot 3 , as the owner of
Lot 4 , he must grant an access easement in favor of Lot 3 .
Mabusth noted that all lots have suitable areas for both
principal and alternate on site septic systems. Mabusth
noted that �there is a drainage tile across Lot 1 . ` �
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#913 PAUL PHILLIPS Councilmember T. Adams noted that the final resolution
(CONT. ) should place the developer/owner on notice that the drainage
tile will be the owner ' s responsibility to maintain and not
the City' s responsibility.
Mayor Butler questioned the wording on the survey regarding '
the 100 year high water mark at 1005 . 5 unless drain tile is not
plugged.
Surveyor, Mark Gronberg, clarified for the Council the
meaning of such wording. Gronberg stated that the
calculations were done for. the 100 year storm assuming that
the tile would be plugged. Gronberg stated that the
calculations show what the worst case would be.
Councilmember T. Adams asked Phillips if he has any
preliminary plans for the property shown on the survey north
of the proposal.
Paul Phillips presented sketches of his proposal for the
property to the north.
Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Frahm seconded, to
recommend approval of the preliminary plat application of
Paul Phillips finding all standards of the on-site septic
code and the rural standards of the RR-1B zoning district
have been satisfied based on the following findings :
l. If Lot 1 is to be approved as a buildable site the
following conditions and controls must be placed on the
future use of the property:
A) Septic area of Lot 1 must be safeguarded for future use
as there may not be another suitable septic area within
the boundaries of the lot. At the time the septic system
is installed a berm must also be installed along the west
side of both the primary and alternate test sites and
east of proposed road or if road is constructed first,
developer must stake off septic area prior to
construction and provide information in road plans as to
how drainage will be carred away from septic area.
B) First habitable level of residence structure to be at
1007 . 5 elevation.
C) All changes in elevations or grades on Lot l , outside
of original building permit review, must be approved by
the City.
2. Drainage tile running through Lots l , 2 and 3 must be
designated as 15 feet drainage easement.
3 . Conservation and Flcwage Easement to be taken over
drainage easement--engineer todetermine prior tofinal
plat approval if additional area around tile inlet
should be incluced within drainage easement .
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#913 PAUL PHILLIPS
(CONT. ) 4. Owner of Lot 4 must grant access easement in favor of Lot
3.
5. Future developer of lands within Medina to be served by
private road within Outlot A must obtain a conditional
use permit from the City of Orono prior to construction.
City to approve road plans . .
6. Payment of park dedication fee of $600 ( $200/lot ) .
7 . Dedication of right-of-way of �40 ' for County Road 6 .
8. Maintenance of drainage tile across Lots 1-3 to be the
sole responsibility of the developer/owner and is not
the responsibility of the City.
Motion, Ayes (5 ) , Nays (0 ) .
#917 TIPTON CORPORATION
1290 LYMAN AVENUE
VARIANCE
RESOLUTION #1782 Mike Sjecklocha was present. City Attorney Radio noted that
an adjoining neighbor of the subject property, Marc
_ Whitehead, is an attorney at Popham, Haik, Schnobrich,
Kaufman, and Doty and because of a possible conflict of
interest stepped down from his seat as City Attorney.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron explained that the
revised plans meet the primary and alternate septic system
requirements. Gaffron noted that the proposal is to
demolish the existing homes and storage sheds on the property
and construct a new home.
Mayor Butler noted that the Planning Commission meeting made
the finding that no additional land is available. Butler
noted that it has been indicated to her that there has not been
any significant conversation with the neighbor to acquire
additional land.
Mike Sjecklocha, Tipton Corporation Representative, stated
that he has contacted the Whiteheads several times and his
calls were never returned. Sjecklocha stated that the
adjoining land to acquire from the Whiteheads is wetlands
anyway and would not help the dry buildable area for the
subject lot. Sjecklocha stated that there has been an
attempt to talk with the Whiteheads and negotiate a purchase
price. Sjecklocha noted that a purchase price has never :
been agreed upon.
Mayor Butler noted that she was informed of the opposite
regarding the attempts to purchase the property. Butler
noted that she is hearing conflicting reports .
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#917 TIPTON Mike Sjecklocha stated that he has logged calls that he has
(CONT. ) made to the Whiteheads. Sjecklocha noted that his calls
were never returned. Sjecklocha noted that negotiations
were held last fall regarding this lot when he met with the the
Whiteheads and if they were interest�d in selling some land.
Sjecklocha noted that the Whiteheads never gave him a price.
Sjecklocha noted for the record that a variance was granted
just down the road similar to this same request.
Councilmember T. Adamsexpressed hisconcern about setting a
precedent for developers to buy one acre lots expecting to
get a variance from the City.
Councilmember L. Adams stated that he would much rather see
the proposed house on the property rather than the developer
trying to remodel the existing hazardous building.
Mike Sjecklocha pointed out that to fix up the existing
house, it would need a setback and area variance because the
existing home is too close to the road.
Mayor Butler noted that in the proposed resolution it should
be noted that no future variances should be granted.
Councilmember Frahm stated that the resolution should also
note that because of the surrounding wetlands that this
property would effectively meet the density requirements of
the City because of the prohibitions of building within
wetlands.
Councilmember L. Adams moved, Councilmember Grabek
seconded, to adopt Resolution #1782 , A Resolution granting a
variance to permit construction of a new home at 1290 Lyman
Avenue subject to the two additions discussed above being
added to the resolution. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 1 ) . Mayor
Butler voted nay for reasons noted above.
#918 JOHN NORDSTROM
541 SPRING HILL ROAD
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION
Dennis Burrati was present representing John Nordstrom.
Mr. and Mrs . Partridge of 625 Spring Hill Road and Mr. and Mrs.
Fred Winston of 765 Spring Hill Road were present in the
audience for this application.
Building & Zoning Administrator Mabusth explained the
proposal to divide 14 . 4 acres into 5 lots . Mabusth
explained that Outlot B is actually a creation of staff for a
private driveway in order to diminish the destruction of the
mature trees . Mabusth noted all these lots could achieve
direct access via Outlot A but each access drive would
require major earth and tree removal.
Dennis Burrat�. asked for the reasoning in asking that the
road be constructed right away when those lots will not be
developed for some time. Burrati asked the Council to not
require that the driveway be constructed until those lots are
developed .
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#918 NORDSTROM .
(CONT. ) Building & Zoning Administrator Mabusth stated that the the
City would have to retain the necessary security to assure
the completion of allrequired improvements. Mabusth noted
that Council may wish to establish deadlines for completion
of required improvements . �
Councilmember Frahm moved, Councilmember T. Adams seconded,
to approve the preliminary plat application by John
Nordstrom finding all standards of the RR-1B Rural
Residential Zoning District and on-site septic code have
been satisfied subject to the following conditions :
1. All new construction and septic installation must meet
the City' s setbacks from Lydiard Lake if applied for
before the Council adopts the DNR' s regulations . If a
building permit is applied for after the City adopts the
DNR' s regulations, the new construction is subject to
the DNR' s setbacks from Lydiard Lake.
2. Describe wetland in angles and bearings within Lot 5 at
970 ' elevation. Designate wetland as drainage
easement. City to ask for Conservation & Flowage
Easement over wetlands.
3. Private road on Outlot A to be constructed prior to
issuance of building permits to Lots 4 or 5 and private
driveway on Outlot B must be constructed and existing
driveway be dismantled prior to issuance of building
permits to Lots 1 and 2 .
4 . Applicant must provide adequate security and enter into
a developer' s agreement if the privateroad and existing
driveway removal are not completed prior to f inal plat
approval. Applicant to submit plans of restoration of
driveway area prior to alteration for Orono staff
approval. Engineering plans for private road must be
approved by the Orono staff prior to construction.
5. The City will ask for underlying road and utility
easements over Outlot A--maintenance covenants for
u�keep and maintenance of private road. Applicant must
submit proof within private covenants that shared
driveway, ownership and maintenanceis shared by Lots l ,
2 and 3.
6. The area of the property involved in Lydiard Lake (below
elevation970 ' ) must be described in angles and bearings .
and designated as drainage easements. The drainage
easements are to be dedicated on the plat for public use .
7 . Payment of $800 park dedication fee ( $200/lot ) .
Motion, Ayes ( 5 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
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�931 J.F. FLEISCHflACKER
2775 SHADYWOOD ROAD
VARIANCE
RESOLUTION #1783* Councilmember L. Adams moved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to adopt Resolution #1783 , A Resolution approving a
conditional use permit to allow removal of 35 cubic yards of .
fill and place fresh sand along shoreline. Motion, Ayes
(4 ) , Nays (0 ) .
STATUS REPORT ON '
PROPERTIES LOCATED
AT 3385 AND 3393 CRYSTAL
BAY ROAD Jerry Wheeler was present. Zoning Administrator Nabusth
submitted pictures to the Council of the alleged violations
at 3385 and 3393 Crystal Bay Road.
Jerry Wheeler noted that the wood pile that staff took
pictures of is not the wood pile that he addressed in his
complaint. Wheelernoted that the wood pile is piled behind
the shed and Wheeler views it from his home.
City Administrator Bernhardson stated that staff would
recheck the property for the other wood pile. Bernhardson
explained that the inspection revealed a shed at 3385 Crystal
Bay Road (8 ' x 12 ' ) and would not require a permit.
Bernhardson explained that at 3393 Crystal Bay Road a 9 . 5 ' x
17 ' shed°is located and that technically a building permit
would be required. Bernhardson explained that many people
erect these structures without permits . Bernhardson asked
Council if staff should enforce this ordinance for everyone.
Bernhardson stated that the other issue is hardcover on the
two properties.
Councilmember T. Adams stated that even though the City
doesn' t normally require a permit does not mean that people
can violate the hardcover ordinance.
Councilmember Frahm stated that if someone complains staff �
should investigate. Frahm stated that at that time if the
structure does not meet the ordinance they must apply for a
variance. Frahm felt this issue should be enforced upon
complaint.
Councilmember L. Adams stated that the pictures are
interesting and that Wheeler appears to have a case for
filing a complaint but felt that the pictures are irrelevant
as it pertains to status report on the alleged violations at
Wheeler ' s property. Adams felt that this was an attempt to
steer or obscure the issue.
Councilmember Frahm noted that at the last meeting Wheeler
was instructed to apply for a variance to his original
variance.
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STATUS REPORT
(CONT. ) Councilmember L. Adams felt that Wheeler ' s issue ought to be
discussed and the properties at 3385 and 3393 Crystal Bay
Road to be discussed as separate issues.
Councilmember Frahm addressed the issues in the staf f inemo on
a point by point basis . Frahm stated that regarding the �
hardcover (POINT A) as long as no driving or plastic is on the
gravel then it is not considered hardcover. Frahm noted
that he is aware that the structure under 120 ' sf does not
require a permit. Frahm stated that the 160 ' sf shed does
require a permit and will additionally have to apply for an
after the fact variance. Frahm noted that staff observed no
boats, therefore, it is no longer an issue. Frahm had no
problems with the wood piles. Frahm asked staff to
investigateinto the wood pile addressed tonight by Wheeler .
Jerry Wheeler stated that he did present his complaint
through the proper channels. Wheeler felt that the
questions of relevancy of Karl Johnson and Dick Carl ' s
violations will become relevant as this mess gets bigger.
Wheeler pointed out that this block (the neighborhood ) is in
shambles when it comes to compliance with the ordinances .
Wheeler felt that the Council should not enforce ordinances
only on complaint basis in this neighborhood because that
would be singling out certain individuals. Wheeler noted
for the record that this block is in non-conformance with the
ordinances in regard to hardcover, exterior structures , and
lot line setbacks. Wheeler asked that if the Council is
going to enforce those ordinances on himself , Johnson, and
Carl, he asked that pictures not be taken of just these three
homes but of the whole block. Wheeler asked the Council to
be fair and to look at the whole block. Wheeler admitted
that he parks on his gravel pad and noted that Johnson also
uses his gravel pad for storage and transportation of
vehicles. Wheeler noted that the wood pile is infested with
rodents and he fears for the safety of a young child living in
his home.
Mayor Butler asked what type of rodents are in the wood pile.
Jerry Wheeler noted that ground squirrels live in the wood
pile.
Mayor Butler noted that ground squirrels are indigenous to
Minnesota and help beautify the lakeshore.
Councilmember L. Adams tried to explain his point of view and
was repeatedly interrupted by Wheeler.
Mayor Butler ruled Wheeler out of order and instructed him to
leave the Council Chambers.
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STATUS REPORT Councilmember L. Adams addressed the issue of friendship
(CONT. ) with Wheeler' sneighbors supposedly affecting hisdecision.
Adams stated that the record indicates that Wheeler has had
fair treatment. Adams stated the the neighborhood is in
non-compliance with the ordinances. Adams felt that when
Wheeler ' s variance application was before the City a few
years back, he was treated fairly and the variance was
approved. Adams stated that at that time of the variance
approval, Adams friendship seemed to have no bearing on the
issue. Adams noted that the boat issue came along and his
friend was ordered to remove the boat which does not show
favoritism on his part. Adams felt that the issues should be
brought up individually and the City be wary of attempts to
obscure the issue.
CLARIFICATION OF
HARDCOVER AND
INTERPRETATION OF
ADMINISTRATIVE POI,ICY
PURDY & SPENCE LETTER
John Purdy of 1975 Fagerness Point Road was present. Art and
Dorothy Finkelstein of 1740 Shadywood Road were also
present.
City Administrator Bernhardson stated that staff is seeking
direction from the Council regarding certain decisions
regarding hardcover. Bernhardson noted the letters from
Purdy and Spence regarding the interpretation and tradeoffs
of hardcover. Bernhardson stated that staff would like
directionfrom Councilasto whetherCouncilconsiders rocks
with perforated plastic underneath hardcover. Bernhardson
asked Council if they consider decking within the 0-75 '
setback as hardcover. Bernhardson asked if Council wishes
to delegate authority to staff to allow staff to make
tradeoffs of hardcover of equal value even when the property
is already over the allowed 25�. Bernhardson also asked if
the previous owner installed the hardcover if they would
allow the present owner to remove hardcover to tradeoff for :
proposed hardcover. Bernhardson asked Council to give
direction to the Purdy' s and Spence' s on which route they
should take.
John Purdy of 1975 Fagerness Point Road stated that he needs
to know what Councilconsidershardcover. Purdystated that
in his letter he raised several points that he feels needs
clarification. Purdy stated that there are several things
that the Council considers hardcover when the "hardcover"
does not really violate the intent of the ordinance (the
intent being to protect the lakeshore from runof f ) . Purdy
stated that runoff can be directed elsewhere and still meet
the intent of the ordinance. Purdy asked Council for an
explicit definition of hardcover.
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ORDINANCE Mayor Butler explained that in the past the question of what
CLARIFICATION to consider hardcover was clearly defined, but with today' s
(CONT. ) innovative methods and proof that certain treatments work
and the Council has decided that they will not be considered
hardcover. Butler used the example of a variance
application to aliow a deck 16" above the ground with a sand
base. Butler noted that the Council did not consider this
hardcover because the deck was placed on the ground and a
permeable material underneath the deck. Butler noted that
� on the other hand a deck constructed 4 ' above the ground is
considered hardcover because of the potential for a future
ownerto place plastic underneath the decking. Butler noted
that it becomes a policing problem for staff .
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron reviewed the Purdy' s
request to add a deck and addition to the home. Gaffron
noted the existing hardcover is at 33� and the Purdy' s
propose an equal tradeoff in existing hardcover for the
proposed deck and addition.
Councilmember Frahm stated that he is not sure that staff
would want to place themselves in a position to be able to make
tradeoffs in hardcover when the property is over the allowed.
Frahm felt that an equal tradeoff is fine for staff to make the
decision as long as the property is under the allowed
hardcover, but anything over the allowed hardcover in any
zone should come back to the Council regardless if the
applicant proposes equal tradeoffs. Frahm noted that the
key to bringing these applications to Council is the
documentation which gives the City the opportunity to file a
resolution in the chain of title placing a future owner on
notice.
City Administrator Bernhardson noted that a property that is
already over the allowed hardcover and does not have a
variance for it is technically in violation and it becomes
important to document tradeoffs on any such property.
John Purdy suggested that the City clarify the ordinance so
that the homeowners will know exactly what is considered
hardcover and in order to be able to apply it to his property.
Purdy noted that his property has the least amount of
hardcover and least damaging compared with his surrounding
neighbors.
Councilmember Grabek noted that the City has recently begun .
different approaches to hardcover. Grabek felt that which
way the hardcover runoff drains is of no concern to him
because it eventually runs into the lake. Grabek felt that
the way it drains should not be considered. Grabek stated
that Council should identify what is hardcover and what is
dangerous to the lakeshore. Grabek pointed out that the
purpose of the hardcover ordinance is to maintain a certain
level of hardcover within the City.
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ORDINANCE CLARIFICATION
(CONT. )
Art Finkelstein of 1740 Shadywood Road stated that in his
, case he wants to take out a strip of grass 5 ' x 20 ' .
Finkelstein asked the Council why they will not let their
professional staff interpret what hardcover is and what is
not and allow them to make equal tradeoffs . Finkelstein
noted that staff is technically able to interpret the
ordinances of the City except under circumstances that are
clearly confusing in which Council must decide.
Mayor Butler noted that when the allowed hardcover is reached
and an excess of hardcover is requested then it is beyond
staff ' s purview.
Art Finkelstein noted that staff should be able to make equal
tradeoffs regardless of whether the property is over the
allowed hardcover. Finkelstein noted that the ordinance is
vague and should be clarified.
Councilmember L. Adams noted that he finds the hardcover
� ordinance one of the only clear cut ordinances in the book.
Adams noted that what is considerd hardcover has been
changing as a result of the new technology recently
introduced to the City. Adams noted that the ordinance
intent is to reduce runof f into the lake. Adams noted what
is not explained in the hardcover ordinance is the intent to
increase absorptioninto the ground water. Adamsnoted that
the Planning Commission needs guidance on exactly what
Council considers as hardcover. Adams felt that pools are
hardcover because they eliminate absorption in the area of
ground where the pool covers . Adams felt that staff should
have more authority but that Councilmust decide perimeters.
Couneilmember Grabek asked how the City originally came up
with the 25� hardcover allowed number.
Building & Zoning Administrator Mabusthstated that when the
hardcover ordinance was drafted it was designed to help
drainage. N,abusth noted that extensive studies were done at
the Freshwater Biological Institute (FWBI ) and that
Council' s decision was based on those studies. Mabusth
stated that Council would ask on all hardcover variance
requests if the proposal would lielp the drainage on the
property and that the allowed percentages were to be used as a
guage. Mabusth noted that the Purdy request is a classic
example of the intent of the ordinance in consideration of
the existing drainage pattern. Mabusth stated that staff
felt comfortable making equal tradeoffs on a staff level
without bringing them to Council, but noted that the
documentation of a variance review (filing the resol_ution in
the chain of title ) is also a factor for consideration.
Mayor Butler suggested staff act on a staff level and then
draft a resolution in those cases and place them on a Consent
Agenda for Council approval.
MINUTES OF TE3E REGUI.AR ORONO COUNCIL MEETING HELD JUNE 24 , 1985 _ PAGE 12
ORDINANCE INTERPRETATION
(CONT. )
City Attorney Radio noted that a public hearing would still
have to be held. Radio felt that staff should identify those
type of cases that staff feels would be appropriate within
staff ' s skill level and bring back to Council for their
review. Radio noted that a code change would probably be
necessary.
Councilmember Frahm suggested calling it something else
� rather than a variance but still get a resolution filed in the
chain of title.
City Attorney Radio suggested calling this type of action a
cocie interpretation or staff interpretation.
John Purdy asked Council what he should do.
Council advised Purdy that he should apply for a variance or
wait for Council' s decision regarding the discussion held
tonight and for Council' s performance standards set up for
staff ' s interpretation.
Councilmember L. Adams stated that the resolution could be
called "Council affirmation of staff ' s decision" and be
piaced on Council agenda. Adams felt that staff should have
additional authority. Adams explained that the Planning
Commission is confused about the changes in hardcover made by
the Council and the Planning Commission needs and desires
clarif ication of the hardcover. Adams noted two items that
they were confused on which was landscaping with rock with
plastic underneath with holes poked in it which Planning
Commission tends to interpret as non-hardcover. Adams
noted they also were confused with decking less than 18" from
the ground with sand base (considered non-hardcover) ,
within the 0-75 ' mark in which the Planning Commission
interpreted as hardcover in which the Council has
interepreted as non-hardcover. Adams stated which way the
water breaks does nct make a difference to him in calculating
the hardcover. Adams also asked about swimming pools if
they are considered hardcover. Adams noted that the FWBI
should respond to the fertilizer and whether it is damaging
to the lake.
Councilmember Grabek asked staff to check with the FWBI to
get answers on the affect of various hardcover techniaues to
the lakeshore. Grabekfelt the FWBI should address plastic
under decking or decking with a sand base, fertilizer for
lawns, ground water supply, and the many other issues
discussed tonight. Grabek suggested inviting Dr. Hanson to
the Council to give answers to these questions .
City Administrator Bernhardson noted the Spence letter and
asked Council whether to ask the applicant to come in for a
\ ! variance to replace a non-conforming shed on the existing
foundation. Bernhardson noted that Spence ' s argument was
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ORDINANCE CLARIFICATION
(CONT. ) that he paid $89 for the shed and seems unreasonable to ask him
to apply for a variance for $150 . Bernhardson asked the
Council if they wish to consider the fee on a size of structure
basis. Bernhardson stated that staff recommends conti-
nuance with present fee based on staff time and the expense
involved.
City Administrator Bernhardson stated that the LMCD has an
amendment that changes the code regarding the renting of
boatsand dock spaces. Bernhardson• stated that the staff ' s
position on residentialpropertiesrenting out dock space is
that it is a commercial use in a re_sidential zone and is an
illegal use.
Councilmember Frahmfelt that allboats should be registered
to the owner of the home and that the City should change the
ordinance to reflect such.
Councilmember Grabek noted that Jo Ellen Hurr should be
notified regarding this proposed change and hopefully vote
the way the City is going to change their docking
regulations.
City Administrator Bernhardson asked Council if they have a
problem with a mobile home trailer parked on a property or a
old home while a home is being built.
Council noted they have no problemwith the temporary trailer
parking while a new home is being built as long as the trailer
or second dwelling is removed before a certificate of
occupancy is issued.
City Administrator Bernhardson raised the issue of tree
removal within a lakeshore yard dead or live guideline.
Bernhardson asked if Council wants to see all applications
that have tree removal. Bernhardson asked if Councilwould
prefer to see only those applications involving alive trees
and the dead trees can staff can handle.
Councilmember L. Adams moved, Mayor Butler seconded, to
direct staff to prepare a modification of the tree removal
ordinance to ref lect staf f ' s recommendation in Alternate A
and for staff to determine appropriate fees. Motion, Ayes
(5 ) , Nays (0 ) .
City Administrator Bernhardson asked if Council has a
problem with canvasstructures being constructed over a dock
requires a separate setback.
Mayor Butler noted that the dock must meet a setback and a
separate setback is not needed because the canvas structure
is usually plaeed over the dock.
City Administrator Bernhardson asked Council to address the
issue of lakeshore fertilization. � B�rnhardson noted that
staff will get a response from Dr . Hanson from the FWBI .
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Counci lmember Frahm noted that Dr. Hanson of the FWBI gave a
lecture on fertilization once and the outcome of such lecture
noted that the phosphorus used in the fertilization
chemicals is detrimental to the lakeshore.
Councilmember L. Adams noted that the City could do what
another metropolitan city does which is to ban fertilization
during certain time periods. ,
CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT
ALTERATION OF WETLANDS
PERFORMANCE STANDARDS
City Engineer Cook asked Council if they are interested in
the alteration of wetlands.
Councilmember Frahm stated no.
Councilmember L. Adams stated that he is interested in the
alteration of wetlands or watersheds if it is a benef it to the
watershed.
City Engineer Cook noted the important function of the
wetland is to absorp phosphorus before entering into the
watershed. Cook stated that the timing of the year is also
importa.nt in the altering of a wetlands. Cook also noted the
stagnate water and algae control is also important to
consider. Cook noted that the City needs to set up
monitoring procedures and set up strong penalities for the
alteration of a wetlands without a permit. Cook noted that
water quality and construction proceduresshould also be set
up.
Councilmember Frahm felt that it is dangerous to alter
wetlands and that the only reason to alter a wetlands should
be for water quality.
Mayor Butler noted that the FWBI should be contacted
regarding the alteration of wetlands .
Councilmember L. Adams noted that a lot of the wetlands have
already been altered by farmers many years ago and have
drainage ditches from them. Adams felt the alteration of
wetlands isn 't all bad.
ADVERTISE FOR BIDS
City Engineer Cook asked Councilfor permission to advertise
for bids on the 1985 seal coating project on July 19 , 1985 .
Councilmember T. Adams moved, Mayor Butler seconded, to
direct staff to advertise for bids to be held July 19 , 1985 , on
the 1985 seal coating project. Motion, Ayes (5 ) , Nays (0 ) .
MAYOR`S REPORT The I�ayor had nothing to report . '
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CABLE TV REPORT There was no cable tv report.
TRANSPORTATION REPORT
There was no transportation report.
MARINA COMMITTEE
STATUS REPORT City Administrator Bernhardson noted the status report
included in the packets for Council.
WEST HENNEPIN HUMAN
SERVZCES BOARD APPOINTMENT
TWO REPRESENTATIVES � ALTERNATE �
City AdministratorBernhardson noted thelettersfrom LaDean
rfcWilliams, Sue Morrison, and Marc McCabe requesting
appointment to the West Hennepin Human Services Board.
Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember T. Adams seconded, to
appoint Sue Morrison and LaDean McWilliams to the West
Hennepin Human Services Board and appoint Marc McCabe as the
alternate to the board. Motion, Ayes (5 ) , Nays (0 ) .
CASCO POINT TRAFFIC
STiJDY City Administrator Bernhardson updated the Council on
staff ' s study of the intersection at Casco Point Road and
Dunwoody. Bernhardson stated that staff recommends
redesigning the intersection in an effort to make the high
speed turning movement difficult.
Councilmember L. Adams suggested landscaping instead of the
blacktop curb.
Council asked staff to bring back a cost estimate for the
propos,ed redesigning of the intersection.
CRIME PREVENTION FUND
City Administrator Bernhardson noted that this was mainly a
status report. Bernhardson asked Council if they have any
names for the committee. Bernhardson noted that Spring Park
and Long Lake both are interested in participating.
METRO COUNCIL POPULATION
ESTIMATES* Councilmember L. Adamsmoved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to accept the Metro Council' s population estimatesfor 1970-
2000. Motion, Ayes (4 ) , Nays (0 ) .
1984 FINANCIAL STATEMENTS
City Administrator Bernhardson asked if Council has any
questions or comments regarding the financial statements
before the Auditor ' s are brought in on July 8th.
Council had no questions at this time.
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RESIGNATION
COUNCIr•MF.MRER LYNN ADAMS
RESOLUTION #1784 City Administrator Bernhardson noted that Councilmember Lynn
Adams has submitted his resignation effective June 30 , 1985 . `
Bernhardson presented a resolution of appreciation to Lynn
Adams. .
Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Frahm seconded , to adopt
Resolution #1784 , A Resolution of Appreciation to
Councilmember Lynn Adams. Motion, Ayes (5 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
REPLACEMENT FOR �
COUNCILMEMBER LYNN ADAMS
Mayor Butler noted that she has contacted former
Councilmember Hammerel and asked if he were offered the
position if he would take the position as Councilmember.
Butler stated that Hammerel has stated that he would take the
position if offered.
Councilmember Grabek noted for the record that it was
inappropriate for the Mayor to offer the position to
Hammerel. Grabek asked if the Planning Commission members
were contacted like members Callahan, Kelley, or Sime.
Grabekfelt it was inappropriatefor a leaving Councilmember
to recommend his own replacement. Grabek felt there was
misrepresentation on the part of the Mayor on the phone and
inappropriate action.
Mayor Butler and Councilmember Frahm noted that they would
prefer Hammerel over the other three.
Councilmember Grabek moved to extend the vacancy of
Councilmember to Planning Commission members Callahan,
Kelley and Sime. Motion died for a lack of second.
Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Frahm seconded, to ask
John Hammerel to accept the vacancy of Lynn Adams as
Councilmember with the understanding that it is filling out a
portion of Lynn Adams seat and would have to stand election in
1986 . Motion, Ayes (3 ) , Nays (1 ) , Abstention (1 ) .
Councilmember Grabek voted nay for the above reasons .
Councilmember L. Adams abstained.
TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES
POLICE DEPARTMENT*
Councilmember L. Adamsmoved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to grant permission to the police department to use two
temporary employees, Peter Palmer and Sandy Woytke at $5 . 74
an hour, who are temporary replacements for Sue Bobzien.
Motion, Ayes ( 4 } , Nays (0 ) .
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TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES '
PAY REVIEW* .
ELIZABETH GALLO*
STEPHANIE SLIGO*
Councilmember L. Adams moved�, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to adjust Elizabeth Gallo' s hourly rate from $3 . 85 to $4 . 00
per hour effective June 17 , 1985 . Motion, Ayes (4 ) , Nays
(0 ) .
Councilmember L. Adamsmoved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to adjust Stephanie Sligo' s hourly rate from $4 . 15 per hour '
to $4. 30 per hour effective June 17 , 1985. Motion, Ayes (4 ) ,
Nays (0 ) . �
MEDICAL LEAVE OF ABSENCE
WALTER BENSON
RESOLUTION #1785* Councilmember L. Adams moved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to adopt Resolution #1785 , A Retroactive Resolution Granting
A Medical Leave of Absence. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
TRAPPING PERMIT RESPONSE*
Councilmember L. Adams moved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to accept the trapping permit response. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) ,
Nays (0 ) .
OLD BEACH ROAD TRAFFIC
Councilmember Frahm asked why the City cannot post the road
"no trucks" as requested.
City Administrator Bernhardson stated that there is no
evidence of damage to the road from trucks . Bernhardson
noted that the City could post one end of the road and
Minnetonka Beach would have to post the other end and it is an
unenforceable posting in that the City would have to allow
service utility maintenance and construction vehiclesto the
residents of Old Beach Road.
Councilmember L. Adamsmoved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to approve the report regarding the traffic on Old Beach Road
as submitted. Notion, Ayes (5 ) , Nays (0 ) .
BIG ISLAND VETERANS CAMP*
Councilmember L. Adamsmoved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to accept staff ' s update on the Big Island Veterans Camp.
Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
EASEMENTS TO DATE* Councilmember L. Adams moved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to accept the easements to date. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays
(0 ) .
SPRING HILL CONTRIBUTION*
Councilmember L. Adams moved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to accept Spring Hill ' s Contribution of $4 , 000 for police and
fire expenses. Motion, Ayes (4 ) , .Nays (0 ) .
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RESIGNATION '
PAM SUTTON* Councilmember L. Adams moved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to accept City Recorder Pam Sutton' s resignation. Motion,
Ayes (4 ) , Nays (0 ) .
LIVINGSTON AVENUE
DRAINAGE PROBLEM* Councilmember L. Adams moved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to accept staff ' s updated memo regarding the Livingston
Avenue Drainage Problem. Motion, Ayes (4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S
INFORMATION* Councilmember L. Adams moved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to accept City Administrator Bernhardson ' s information
memo. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays (0 ) .
CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT
DITTRICH PROPERTY City Attorney Radio asked Public Works Coordinator
Gerhardson to update the Council regarding the Dittrich
property.
Public Works Coordinator Gerhardson explained that when the
City built the Navarre parking lot the City purchased an
amount of land from Dittrich and leased a portion of land from
Dittrich. Gerhardson noted that the land that was leased
was paved and is used as parking lot and private parking for
Dittrich. Gerhardson noted the portion of land that was
leased was due for renewal of that lease in 1974 but for
unknownreasonswasnot renewed. Gerhardson explained that
Dittrich is in the process of torrensing his property and has
suggested that the City deed back the property to Dittrich
and after torrensing he would deed back the property to the
City as well as the leased portion less the amount of land
Dittrich needed for his personal use. Gerhardson pointed
out the advantage of this procedure in that the City would
have torrens property.
The Council determined that it was not interested in
receiving torrens property, therefore, no action was taken '
except directing staff to notify Dittrich to proceed with �
torrensing of his property only.
PAUL SMITH SEWER MATTER
Mrs. Powers was present. City Attorney Radio submitted a
memo to Councilsummarizing the status of obtaining easement
� for Paul Smith sewer connection. Radio stated that it is his
understanding that Paul Smith has offered to install and pay
for the cost of connecting his house to the sewer and
contributing $1, 000 towards the cost of retaining the
easement. Radio stated that the contract with Widmer .
contains restoration for seeding or sodding. Radio noted
that the Powers prefer the easement over the older property
(OPTION A) . Radio noted that the Powerswould accept $2 , 000
in exchange for the acquisition of the easement. Radio
recommended that the City negotiate an acquisition of the
easement in lieu of condemnation in light of the expense and
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PAUL SMITH SEWER delay that would otherwise result. Radio noted that OPTION
(CONT. ) A proposes the easement adjacent to the existing driveway
while OPTION C proposes the easement in the existing
driveway.
Mrs. Powers noted that there is a misunderstanding in regard
to the easement in that they understood that the $2 , 000
amount was for the driveway easement. Powers felt that the
City of Orono should pay zero and that Smith should have to pay
100� for the sewer project. Powers noted that they feel they
have lost $50 ,000-100, 000 over the past three years because
they cannot sell their home because they cannot guarantee a
new owner that the yard will not be torn up.
City Attorney Radio asked if the Powers would be interested
in Option C.
Mrs. Powers stated no.
Councilmember L. Adams felt that it would be inappropriate to
start condemnation proceedings immediately and suggested
that Smith be required to set up an escrow fund.
Councilmember Frahm moved, Mayor Butler seconded, to direct
staff to coordinate the following:
l. Paul Smith to set $l, 000 in escrow within 7 business days
or the City will begin condemnation.
2. Start condemnation proceedings to get easement limiting
the legal fees at $500 .
3. Draw up an easement contract between the City of Orono,
Smith, and Powers and signed within the next 15 days.
4. City to obtain a copy of the contract between Smith and
Widmer for the construction of the sewer and water and
Smith to pay SAC charge.
5. The City of Orono will indeed pay $1 , 000 for the
easement, Smith to pay $l, 000 for the easement, plus all
the construction costs if done within 45 days .
6 . At the end of 45 days if this project is not completed that
the City terminate the conversation about the easement
acquisition and City will start condemnation.
Motion, Ayes (5 ) , Nays (0 ) .
1950 SHORELINE DRIVE
RESOLUTION #1786 City Attorney Radio submitted a resolution authorizing the
taking of land by eminent domain for utility easement
purposes for the Crystal Bay Sewer Project at 1950 Shoreline
Drive. � '
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Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember L. Adams seconded, to
adopt Resolution #1786 , A Resolution authorizing taking of
land by eminent domain for utility easement purposes for the
Crystal Bay sewer project. riotion, Ayes (5 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
CRYSTAL BAY SEWER PROJECT
City Attorney Radio noted that the contract documents
provide for contractor ' s risk insurance and that the
contractor has not provided this in the specifications.
Radio informed staff that the bidder should provide this
information since the contract calls for such insurances.
LICENSES* Councilmember L. Adamsmoved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
to approve the following licenses :
King Super Value - Cigarette License
Roger Frommelt - Fireworks Permit
Clover Hill Company - Septic System Installer ' s License
Q Superette - Off Sale Beer License
Lakeview Golf Course - On Sale Beer License
Mexican Inn - On Sale Beer License
Wayzata Country Club - Club Liquor License
Ron Potas - Fireworks Permit
Navarre Congregation of Jehovah Witnesses - Temp. Trailer
Parking License
Spring Hill Conference Center - Set up License
Motion, Ayes (4 ) , Nays (0 ) .
BILLS* Councilmember L. Adamsmoved, Councilmember Frahm seconded,
that the All Funds Accounts and Liquor Store Accounts be
paid. Motion, Ayes (4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
ADJOURNMENT 11:35 PM
Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Frahmseconded, to adjourn
the regular Council meeting at 11 : 35 p.m. and enter into
executive session. Motion, Ayes (5 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
ATTFST:
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