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ATTENDANCE 7 :00 PM The Orono City Council met on the above date with the
following members present : Nayor Butler, Council-
members Grabek, Adams, and Hammerel . Councilmember
Frahm was absent. City Engineer Cook, City Attorney
Radio, Building & Zoning Administrator Mabusth, Public
Works Coordinator Gerhardson, Assistant Zoning
Administrator Gaffron, and City Recorder Sutton
represented the City Staff . City Attorney Malkerson
arrived at 10 : 16 p.m. The new Councilmember effective
January l , 1985 , Lynn Adams , arrived at 8 : 45 p.m. City
Administrator Benson was absent.
7 :00 PM PUBLIC HEARING
PROGRAM YE�1RS IX AND X
UNDER TITLE I OF THE HOUSING
AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
ACT - RESOLUTION #1702
7 :04 - 7 :05 PM biayor Butler announced that now was the time and place for
the public hearingconcerning theprogram amendmentfor
program years IX and X under Title I of the Housing and
Community Development Act. City Recorder Sutton
noted the affidavit of publication. There was no one
present from the audience for this public hearing.
Mayor Butler closed the public hearing at 7 : 05 p.m.
Public Works Coordinator Gerhardson noted that with
this amendment the City will have set aside $39 , 000 for
the use of grant money for the Crystal Bay sewer
improvements .
Councilmember Adams moved, Councilmember Grabek
seconded, to adopt Resolution #1702 , A Resolution
Amending the Urban Hennepin County Community
Development Block Grant Program. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) ,
Nays ( 0 ) .
CRYSTAL BAY SEWER PROJECT
DISCUSSION Mayor Butler stated that the first order of business is
to accept the feasibility report by the Engineer.
Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Grabek seconded, to
accept thefeasibilityreportprepared by City Engineer
Cook. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
The following were present from the audience for the
Crystal Bay Sewer Project:
David Liesch of 1140 Willow Drive
Bob Braun of 1230 Arbor Street
Phil Kaley of 1295 Brown Road South
Jay Wood of 1285 Arbor Street
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Wayne Kelley of 1099 Willow Drive South
Keari Derry of 1115 Brown Road South
Larry & Phyllis Symoniak of 1155 Brown Road South
Margar�t & Fred Curtis of 2180 Prospect Avenue
Duane Glew of 1135 Brown Road South
Curtis & Katherine Quady of 1223 Brown Road South
Chauncey & Marvel Sandgren of 1215 Arbor Street
Elvon Yager of 1223 Arbor Street
Maybell Kohls of 1224 Briar Street
Wayne 6 Judy Quast of 1205 Brown Road South
LaDean McWilliams of 1130 Willow Drive South
John Story of 1233 Briar Street
Terry Morse of 2080 Spates Avenue
Mindy Pattee of 1355 Arbor Street
Rick Kiemer of 1212 Briar Street
Mabel Bell of 1380 Briar Street
Oliver Engstrom of 1145 Willow Drive South
Randolph & Peggy Lukanen of 1085 Brown Road South
Alex & Diann Jentilucci of 1295 Briar Street
Susan Rovegno of 2010 Shoreline Drive
Mary & Jack Spence of 2040 North Shore Drive
Karin Zeeb of 1245 Lakeview Avenue
Norma Schnoor of 1220 Lakeview Avenue
Judy Christensen of 1251 Brown Road South
Barb Braun of 1230 Arbor Street
Gary & Linda Printup of 1261 Briar Street
Steve Carlson of 1205 Arbor Street
Jan Johnson of 2170 Prospect Avenue
Barbara Garcia 1335 Arbor Street
Ardella & Richard Johnson of 1241 Brown Road South
City Engineer Cook explained that he had realigned some
of the sewer lines , and left the streets at the existing
16 ' to reduce the cost of the sewer project. Cook
stated that the easement acquisition cost has been
reduced, assuming that the neighborhood will give the
City the easements . Cook stated that the sodding has
been eliminated and replaced with seeding which also
helped to reduce the cost. Cook noted that the per unit
cost is $10 , 341 . 00 with the deletion of the above
mentioned items . Cook noted the project cost of
$597 ,900 . 00 , with arestoration cost of $260 , 400 . 00for
a total project cost of $858 , 300 . 00 .
Wayne Quast of 1205 Brown Road South asked why the
Engineer showed the sewer line jacking across Brown
Road twice. Quast stated that he would be willing to
have the sewer line run in front of his yard to save more
money on the project cost.
City Engineer Cook stated that it would be more cost
effective rather than tearing up the trees along the
front of these properties.
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Wayne Quast of 1205 Brown Road South stated that there
are no trees left .
Other neighbors that live along that block were all in
agreement to have the sewer line run along the front of
their properties .
City Engineer Cook stated with the owner ' s consent that
this might reduce the project cost by as much as
$20 , 000 .
Mayor Butler explained that the Council had previously
directed the Enqineer to go back and try to reduce the
sewer project cost as much as possible. Butler noted
that if the Council was to choose the 50-50 assessment
option, that the per unit cost would be $5 , 270 . 00 .
City Engineer Cook stated that he looked at a method of
assessing the project 40 percent on the front foot and
60 percent on the unit charge. Cook stated that based
on assessing 50 percent of the project to the
benefitting properties , thefrontfootage charge would
be $i9 . 80/lineal foot and the unit charge would be
$3 ,170/unit. Cook used an example of a small lot ( 50 '
lot) which the assessment would be $4 , 160 or about
$1 , 000 less than the assessment on the total unit.
Cook stated that on a large lot ( 200 ' lot ) the
assessment would be $7 , 030 .
Curtis Quady of 1223 Brown Road asked the Council why
they were still discussing the 50-50 option, when the
neighbors have already told the Council that they will
not accept the 50-50 option. Quady stated thaL the
neighborhood wants the 30-70 split.
Gary Printup of 1261 Briar Street asked why the Art
Center hasn ' t been inclUded in the project yet.
Printup also noted that there isn' t much difference
between the 50-50 option and 30-70 option. Printup
asked why the Council doesn ' t choose the 30-70 option.
Printup noted the f igures from the last meeting in which
with the 50-50 opti.on on a $75 , 000 home and a $25 , 000
income, the general tax payer would have to pay $29 . 50
per year. Printup stated that with the 30-70 option it
would increase only to $35 . 40 per year for 15 years .
Mayor Butler stated that there will be other sewer
projects in the future, and the Council would set a
precedent for other sewer projects by using this 50-50
assessment option. Butler stated that other areas of
the City have not had this benefit where the general tax
payers have picked up part of the bill .
One lady stated that only about 7 percent of the homes
are having septic problems. She felt that sewer was
being pushed on them.
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A poll was taken of the Council to get their opinion on
the assessment of the prcject.
Councilmember Hammerel stated that the $5 , 000 figure
was a reasonable figure with the 50-50 option.
Hammerel felt that the 30-70 optionwould set a negative
precedent for future sewer projects . Hammerel
explained that if the neighborhood was to try to
maintain their septic systems, it would cost them much
more.
Councilmember Adams stated that at first he was in favor
of the 100 percent assessed option, but after hearing
the financial hardships of this unique area , he would be
willing to compromise at the 50-50 option. Adams
stated that the Council has to consider the future too
and not set a negative precedent.
Counci.lmember Grabek felt that the 50-50 option was
being too generous . Grabek noted that it should be 100
percent assessed against the benefitting property
owners, but because of the situation specific to the
Crystal Bay area there should be some consideration on
the part of the City and that the 75-25 option would be
best. Grabek felt to obligate the general tax payer to
the 50-50 option would not be very responsible to the
rest of the citizens of Orono. Grabek felt that sewer
should be put into the area, but that the 50-50 option is
too generous , and therefore he would vote against a
motion to adopt the 50-50 assessment option.
Mayor Butler noted the schedule of the sewer project
that the Council can follow. Butler stated that the
plans and specs can be given to the Council on January
28 , 1985 , if the Council orders the plans and specs at
tonights meeting. Butler stated that at the January
28 , 1985 , Council meeting, a date for the bids would be
set. Butler noted on March 1, 1985 , the City would
receive bids which would tell the City the true price of
the project. Butler stated that on March 25 , 1985 , the
special assessment hearing could be held, and if at that
time too many people are opposed, the whole project is
called off . Butler stated assuming it will continue,
April 22 , 1985 , the contract would be awarded. Butler
noted April 29 , 1985 , the construction would begin with
a September 13 , 1985 , date for the completion of the
project. Butler asked the Engineer how much plans and
specs would cost.
City Engineer Cook noted that plans and specs would cost
approximately $40 , 000 .
One lady asked how much the Art Center would lower the
cost of the project, if the center was included in the
sewer project. She asked that the Councilinvestigate
this.
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City Fnq� r.eer Cook stated that if the Art Center
requires 1 G sewer units , it would reduce the cost of the
project $1 , 000 per unit. Cook stated that he isn ' t
sure how many units the Art Center would require.
Mayor Butler closed the public discussion at 9 : 00 p.m.
Butler also noted that the public hearing must be
started over if the Art Center is to be included in the
sewer project .
Diann 3entilucci of 1295 Briar Street stated that since
this prcject fell within an election year , anc� a new
member of the Council will be here in 1985 , she asked
what assessment option the new member is going to be in
favor of , and if he would be in favor of the sewer project
itself.
Lynn Adams , new Councilmember effective 1985 , stated
that the 50-50 option is more than generous . Adams
noted that he would not vote for any motion beyond the
50-50 . Adams felt that if the sewer project is
rejected by the neighborhood , that the septic
ordinances wil.l be enforced strictly and that the City
� is not interested in allowing failing and non-
conforming systems to continue. Adams noted that the
neighborhood has a good opportunity to get sewer at a
Iower cost than previous sewer project areas had .
Councilmember Grabek moved , Mayor Butler seconded, to
order plans and specs for the Crystal Bay Sewer Project
to be received by the Council on January 28 , 1985 , per
staff schedule submitted. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
CONSENT AGENDA* MayorButlermoved, CouncilmemberHammerelseconded, to
approve the Consent Agenda* , subject to adding items
#13 and #15 to the Consent Agenda and removing item #29
from the Consent Agenda for discussion, with all staff
reports concerning these items to be attached to an
original copy of these minutes on fil.e in the City
Clerk' s of.fice. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
APPROVAL OF MINUTES* Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Hammerel seconded , to
approve the minutes of the regular meeting held
November 26 , 1984 . Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
LARE MINNETONKA CONSERVATION
DISTRICT REPORT There was no Lake Minnetonka Conservation Distxict
Report.
PLANNING COMMISSION
COMMENTS Planning Commission Representative Bill Sime had no
comments.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no comments from the public present.
#778 JOANN GRIMES
4720 NORTH ARM DRIVE WEST
FINAL SUBDIVISION
RESOLLJTION #1703* MayorButlermoved, CouncilmemberHammerelseconded, to
approve Resolution #1703 , A Resolution Approving the
Plat of McHaney Addition for JoAnn Grimes . Motion,
Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
#805 JOHN HALLSON
2640 WATERTOWN ROAD
FINAL SUBDIVISION
RESOLUTION #1704* MayorButler moved , CouncilmemberHammerelseconded , to
approve Resolution #1704 , A Resolution Approving the
Plat of Hallson Estates for John Hallson. Motion, Ayes
( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 } .
#806 WILLOW PROPERTIES
2600 WAYZATA BLVD
FINAL SUBDIVISION
RESOLUTION #1705* MayorButler moved , CouncilmemberHammerelseconded , to
approve Resolution #1705 , A Resolution Approving the
Plat of Willow Properties Addition for William Gagne .
Notion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
#839 JEFF STEBBINS
2195 WATERTOWN ROAD
FINAL SUBDIVISION
RESOLUTION #1706* MayorButler moved , Counci_lmember. Hammerelsecondea , to
approve Resolution #1706 , A Resolution Approving the
Plat of BalsawooG for Jeff Stebbins . Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) ,
Nays ( 0 ) .
#879 MALCOLM MACKAY
1145 SIXTH AVENUE NORTH
SUBDIVISION
RESOLUTION #1707* MayorButlermoved, Councilmember Hammerelseconded, to
approve Resolution #1707 , A Resolution Approving A
Metes & Bounds Subdivision of a Lot Line Rearrangement
for Malcolm MacKay. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
#882 THE FARM AT LONG LAKE
1765 WEST FARM ROAD
SUBDIVISION
RESOLUTION #1708* Mayor Butler moved , Councilmember Hammerelseconded, to
approve Resolution #1708 , A Resolution Approving a
Metes & Bounds Subdivision of a Lot Line Rearrangement
for The Farm At Long Lake, Inc. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays
(0 ) .
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#804 PAINTERS CREEK
4680 BAYSIDE ROAD
FINAL SUBDIVISION
A) PRIVATE ROAD NAME
REQUEST Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Grabek seconded , to
approve the road name request of Luce Line Ridge.
Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
##804 B) REFUND OF PUBLIC ROAD
REVIEW FEE Mayor Butler moved , Councilmember Grabek seconded , to
approve the refund of the public road review fee in the
amount of $1, 000 . 00 . Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
#804 C) FINAL SUBDIVISION
RESOLUTION #1709 Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Grabek seconded , to
approve Resolution #1709 , A Resolution Approving the
Plat of Painters Creek. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
$816 LARE MINNETONKA HOMES
155 WILLOW DRIVE SOUTH
FINAL SUBDIVISION
RESOLUTION #1710 Richard Conry was present. Zoning Administrator
Mabusth reviewed with the Council the result of her
survey with the cities of 4�ayzata, Plymouth, and
Minnetonka Beach on_ their methods of the timing for
issuing certificate of occupancies and building
permits in relati_on to the completion of required plat
improvements . Mabusth stated that she has added a
condition to the resolution which should take care of
the seeding and sodding condition if the weather does
not allow seeding or sodding.
Richard Conry stated that the revised resolution is
acceptable to him.
Councilmember Grabek moved, Mayor Butler seconded, to
approve Resolution #1710 , A Resolution Approving the
Plat of Countryside Nanor 2nd Addition. Motion, Ayes
( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
#820 LONIE FISR
493 PARR AVENUE
VARIANCE
DENIAL RESOLUTION #1711* Lonie Fisk was nct present.
Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Hammerel seconded ,
to approve Resolution #1711 , A Resolution Denying
Variances for Lonie Fisk to permit the construction of a
home. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
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#874 DUANE BARTH &
MRS D JOI3NSTONE
1810 SHADYWOOD ROAD
VARIANCE Mrs. Donald Johnstone and attorney, Glenn Troberg, were
present. Duane Barth and Donald Peterson,
developers, were also present. Barry Reoh, realtor,
was present. Charles Pyle of 1870 Shadywood Road ,
Holly Eiss of 1790 Shadywood Road, and Richard Black of
1770 Shadywood Road, were in the audience for this
application.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted that the
Planning Commission recommended denial . Gaffron
noted that staff feels that the findings for approval
far outweigh the justification for denial. Gaffron
noted that in the research through the assessment
history of the two lots , the two lots have been taxed as
twoseparate buildingsites . Gaffron noted that when a
home is built on Lot 21 the existing garage will be
removed . Gaffron explained that both lots have been
assessed a footage charge and a unit charge for water
which indicates to staff that they were considered as
two separate building sites . Gaffron noted that the
developers propose a "grass paver" method for the
driveways therefore meeting the hardcover require-
ments. Gaffron stated that the proposal fits in with
the rest of the neighborhood.
Holly Eiss of 1790 Shadywood Road stated that she was
not in favor of the application because she doesn' t want
a new home 20 ' from her window. Eiss stated that she
would prefer no one out her window.
Richard Black of 1770 Shadywood Road noted that the
Council has an obligation to the neighborhood to uphold
the variance rulesand regulations . Black stated that
variances should be granted only in the most
exceptional circumstances . Black noted that approv-
ing this variance would set a precedent that would not
be good for the neighborhood .
Don Peterson, developer, noted that Mrs . Johnstone has
maintained this property separately with the intent to
build on it in the future. Peterson noted that there
are 39 lots in the neighborhood, 23 lots are smaller
than the this one, 15 lots that are larger. Peterson
stated that they are proposing to cover less than 25
percent of the lot and are planninq to meet all building
requirements . Peterson stated that they are asking
for no other variances other than that of being allowed
to build on a lot that was platted prior to the City' s
current ordinances.
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Glenn Troberg, Johnstone ' s attorney, noted the Smith
variance application whichseta precedentwhen Council
approveci it on March 15 , 1984 , which is identical to
this with the following findings :
l. No otherland available. Troberg noted thatin the
Johnstone ' s case there is no land available.
2. Lotswere developed on both sides of the property.
Troberg noted this is the same in the Johnstone ' s
case.
3. Property was served with sewer and water. Troberg
stated that the Johr.stone ' s property is served with
sewer and water.
4 . Proposed houseand improvements can be constructed
without the need for additional variances .
Troberg stated that this is the case with the
Johnstone' s application.
5 . Applicant purchased the property not knowing the
existing ordinances . Troberg noted that in the
Johnstone ' scase, the applicant had the property a
long time before the existing ordinances were
adopted.
6. Granting a variance would have no negative affect
to the public health, safety and welfare. Troberg
stated that here the Johnstone ' s application would
have no negative affect on the public health,
safety, and welfare.
7 . Granting a variance would be consistent with the
area. Troberg stated that the Johnstone
application fits right in with the existing
neiahborhood .
Councilmember Grabek moved, Mayor Butler seconded, to
approve a variancefor Barth/Johnstone and directstaff
to draft a resolution of approval incorporating the
following findings :
1. The proposalcan meet allhardcoverrequirements of
the LR-1C zoning district.
2. All setback requirements for the new lot can be met.
3. From the tax record it appears that the lot has been
valued and assessed as a separate lot, not
incrementally as part of the adjacent property.
4. The applicant has owned the property since before
the current zoning went into effect.
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5 . The property has been assessed for sewer.
6 . The property has been assessed for water and was
assessed a separate water unit for each lot.
7 . The lot area is consistent with many other
properties in the neighborhood and is equivalent
to or larger than 11 of 25 lots in the neighborhood.
Approval conditions to include :
1. Granting a variance to the setbacks for the
existing house on Lot 22 .
2 . No otherperformance standard setbacks allowedfor
either lot (i.e. both lots must meet all hardcover
and setback requirements ) .
3 . Payment of a park fee for new lot in the amount of
$430 .
4 . $225 sewer plant charge to be paid with building
permit along with standard SAC charges , etc.
5. Applicants to bear the expense of bringing sewer
and water to the property if no stubs exist.
6 . Maxi_mum hardcover of Lot 21 to be 2 , 280 sf including
roofs, decks, driveways, sidewalks , patios ,
terraces, etc.
7 . Applicant placed on notice of the hardcover
limitations for both lots .
8 . No other variances will be granted.
Motion, Ayes ( 3 ) , Nays (1 ) . Councilmember Adams voted
nay. Adams felt that this application is beyond the
borderline for approval, and that the Council has to
draw the line somewhere.
Mayor Butler noted that the resolution should be filed
in the chain of title of both lots .
#880 STEVEN RUCE
4625 WEST BRANCH ROAD
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
RESOLLJTION #1712* Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Hammerelseconded, to
approve Resolution #1712 , A Resolution Granting A
Conditional Use Permit to permit construction of a
green house withlimited commercialuse. Motion, Ayes
(4 ) , Nays (0 ) .
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#881 WILLIAM KRUTZIG
1629 BOHNS POINT ROAD
VARIANCE William Krutzig was present. Assistant Zoning
Administrator Gaffron noted that some drainage
problems are in the process of being resolved to the
satisfaction of the City. Gaffron noted that the
applicant is constructing a new residence. Gaffron
stated that after the applicant applied for a building
permit, he was notifi.ed that portions of the proposed
improvements would go over the hardcover limitations
for the property and that he would have to apply for a
variance for these specific items . Gaffron stated that
the applicant is requesting a variance for the deck and
courtyard improvements . Gaffron noted that the
driveway would be constructed with a porous pavement in
orderthat the hardcover requirements be met . Gaffron
noted that theapplicant ' srationaleforrequesting the
variance is that a large portion of the lot is in the
250 ' - 500 ' zone and will have no hardcover where 30
percentisallowed, hence the totalrequested hardcover
behind the 75 ' setback line will be less than the
maximum allowed. Gaffron noted that this type of
tradeoff has been allowed in the past where there was
existing hardcover but not for new construction.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted that
PlanningCommission recommended denial . Gaffron also
noted the sewer problems . Gaffron explained that the
neighbors at some time in the past put their sewer lines
on Krutzig' s property. Gaffron noted that the
neighbors do not appear to have legal easements over
this property. Gaffron noted that all the neighbors do
think they have easeinents over the Krutzig ' s property.
Gaffron stated that the drainage onto this property is
naturally occuring and will have to be addressed by the
applicant.
William Krutzig noted that the existing easement
documents were in good intent, but the wording is not
sufficient to make them adequate easements . Krutzig
stated that Mr. Fox doesn ' t have an easement but has the
right to hookup. Krutzig stated that Mr . Lomar has no
sewer easement across his lot. Krutzig noted that he
plans to grant easements for the neighbors .
AssistantZoning AdministratorGaffron also noted that
on Friday, December 7 , 1984 , the site was posted with a
stopworkorder for fillingwithin 75 ' of the lakeshore .
Gaffron explained that the cat operator was told by his
supervisor to do the grading. Gaffron noted that the
cat operator responded very quickly in removing the
fill. Gaffron felt that there was not an intent not to
comply with the ordinances , but just miscommunication
among the contractors .
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Wil]_iam Krutzig stated that he could redirect the
drainage down the property line and create a swale.
Krutzig also noted that the drainage could be
redirected f rom the roof to collect in a retention pond.
Krutzig explained that when he came into City Hall he
was not aware of hardcover limitations . Krutzig noted
that at the time he found out about the hardcover
problem from staff , he had already spent $6 , 600 on
building plans. Krutzig stated the staff recommended
that he scale the house down and go two stories high.
Krutzig stated that after spending $6 , 600 a builder
just doesn' t throw that aside and waste that money, so
he continued. Krutzig auestioned the City' s
interpretation that decks are 100 percent hardcover.
William Krutzig asked for an interpretation from staff
or Council on why decks are considered hardcover.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron noted that
usually decks have plastic underneath them so that
weeds do not grow through the decking. Gaffron stated
that bcard spacing varies from deck to deck and could
become a policing nightmare if the staff had to inspect
each deck to determine if it vaas hardcover or just a
certain percentage of hardcover , therefore the City
just considers decking as 100 percent hardcover .
Krutzig stated that he was planning on having 1 ' of sand
beneath his deck which should not classify it as
hardcover. Krutzig stated that he could go to an
engineer to get percolation tests done to show to the
City that decks should not be considered hardcover and
may prove to be only a percentage of hardcover.
Council felt that they would take this into
consideration if he brought the information needed.
Councilmember Grabek moved, Councilmember Adams
seconded, to deny the Krutzig variance application
requesting a hardcover variance to construct a deck and
courtyard improvements based on Planning Commission' s
following findings :
l. At the time of application, the applicant was
informed by staff fully of the hardcover
limitations within the 75-250 ' setback zone.
2. This is a substandard lot in area and slightly
substandard on lot width.
3. It is a low lot that provides hydraulic capacity for
the drainage of adjoining properties and the
building department should address that issue.
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4 . An adequate house for this lot could have been
constructed, meeting the 4 , 595 sf of allowed
hardcover in the 75-250 ' zone.
5 . That the additional hardcover is not necessary to
maintain a substantial property right.
6 . This problem of hardcover was brought on by the
applicant.
Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) . Grabek noted that it is the
responsibility of the builder to ask the right
questions and get the correct information regarding
zoning and building codes before building.
#854 G. ROBERT JOHNSON
1981 FAGERNESS POINT ROAD
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
RESOLUTION #1713 G. Robert Johnson was present. City Attorney Radio
stepped down from his City Attorney position because of
a conflict of interest wherein Robert Johnson and Tom
Radic are employed by the same firm, Popham, Haik &
Associates. Gary Larson, attorney, was hired by the
City to represent the City of Orono for this
application.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron explained that
this is an after the fact application wherein the
applicant constructed retaining walls , planters, and
steps within the 0-75 ' lakeshore setback zone.
Gaffron stated that the apparent clearing of trees
within the 0-75 ' setback zone were done by the previous
owner per the previous owner ' s letter. Gaffron noted
that Johnson had thought that the contractor had taken
all the permits needed. Gaffron stated that one
solution to the hardcover is to use a pitchfork to
pierce the plastic beneath the rocks .
Councilmember Grabek asked staff if the City would have
granted Johnson the permit if he had come into the
offices before he commenced work.
Assistant Zoning Administrator Gaffron replied that
Johnson would have had to apply for a variance for
hardcover. Gaffron stated that upon staff investi-
gation the steps were existing and that Johnson only
replaced the steps. Gaffron noted that there isn' t an
increase in hardcover because of the added retention
capacity of the planters. Gaffron did note that the
Public Works Coordinator recommends the retaining
walls be moved out of the right of way.
• M�INU`1'LS OI' 'I'13I: IZI:GULIII: OROt:O COUNCI I, N,E1;1'I NG IiI�:1,U DECEMF�1',It 1 0 , 19 F3 4 PI�GI�; 14
Robert Johnson noted that his property has had no
increase in hardcover. Johnson noted that he thought
that Niccum, contractor, had taken all the permits
neededfrom City Hall . Johnson noted that the erosion
on his property was f ierce and that something had to be
done. Johnson stated that only the diseased elm was
removed .
Public Works Coordinator Gerhardson stated that he as a
staff person cannot approve anything within the right
of way. Gerhardson stated that leaving the stairs in
the right of way would be acceptable only if the
applicantdoesn ' t hold the Cityresponsiblefor plowing
damage, and would grant the City a hold harmless
agreement.
Councilmember Grabek stated that from all the
documentation that he felt that there wasn' t a
violation regarding the tree cutting. Grabek noted
that there wasn' t much done to the area that wasn ' t
already existi.ng.
Councilmember Grabek moved, Councilmember Hammerel
seconded, to approve Resolution #1713 , A Resolution
Granting A Conditional Use Fermit and Variance for an
after-the-fact application of Robert Johnson to allow
the placement of retaining walls, planters , and stairs
within 75 ' of the lakeshore, subject to amending
condition #5 to include a hold harmless agreement from
Johnson regarding the retaining walls within the right
�f way, and applicant to sign such hold harmless
agreement. Moti.on, Ayes ( 3 ) , Nays (1 ) .
Mayor Butler voted nay.
WATER RATE REVIEW City Engineer Cook stated that this was included in the
Council packets upon receipt of a complaint from an
Orono residentregarding hishigh waterbill . Cook did
note that this resident has a swimming pool which
resulted in his high water bill.
EASEMENT PAYMENT NAVARRE
FORCE MAIN PROJECT* MayorButler moved, Councilmember Hammerel seconded , to
approve the easement payment for the Navarre Force Main
Project $230 . 20 . Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
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PAYMENT �2 TO B & D
CONTRACTING - NAVARRE
FORCE MAIN PROJECT* Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Hammerel seconded, to
approve Payment #2 to B & D Contracting in the amount of
$33 , 319 . 11 for the Navarre Force Main Project.
Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
PAYMENT �l F F JEDLICKI
HIGHWAY 12 SEWER REPAIR
& DITCH GRADING* Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Hammerel seconded, to
approve Payment #1 to F.F. Jedlicki , Inc. in the amount
of $11 , 685 . 00 for the Highway 12 sewer repair and ditch
grading project. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
CABLE TV REPORT Mayor Butler announced a Cable TV Meeting to be held
December 11 , 1984 at 5 : 30 p.m. at Shorewood City
Offices .
LIQUOR STORE OPERATING
RESULTS - THREE MONTHS
ENDED 9-30-84 Councilmember Adams moved, Mayor Butler seconded, to
approve the liquor store operation results report
prepared by Finance Director Kuehn. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) ,
Nays ( 0 ) .
ESTABLISH 1985 SALARIES
RESOLUTION #1714 Mayor Butler noted the resolution to establish the
salaries for 1985 with a four percent increase for
employees. Butler told staff that merit reviews
should be done in June.
P�iayor Butler moved, Councilmember Grabek seconded, to
approve Resolution #1714 , A Resolution Establishing
1985 Salaries. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
1985CALENDAR* MayorButler moved, CouncilmemberHammerelseconded, to
approve the Calendar of City Meetings for 1985 .
Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays (0 ) .
COUNCILMEMBERS SCHEDULE
TO ATTEND PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETINGS* Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Hammerelseconded, to
approve the Councilmembers schedule to attend Planning
Commission meetings for 1985 . Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays
(0 ) .
MONTHLY LIQUOR STORE
OPERATION REPORT FOR
OCTOBER, 1984* Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Hammerelseconded, to
approve the monthly liquor store operating report for
October, 1984 , prepared by Finance Director Kuehn.
Motion, Ayes (4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
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YEAR-TO-DATE ESTIMATED
REVENUES COMPARED TO
ACTUAL REVENUES AS OF
9-30-84* Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Hammerel seconded,
to approve the year-to-date estimated revenues
compared to actual revenues as of September 30 , 1984 ,
prepared by Finance Director Kuehn. rlotion, Ayes ( 4 ) ,
Nays (0 ) .
YEAR-TO-DATE BUDGET
APPROPRIATION COMPARED
WITH ACTUAL EXPENDITURES
AS OF 9-30-84 Councilmember Adams noted that he had this item removed
from the Consent Agenda because he felt there was a
mistake in the numbers and asked that this item be
tabled to allowed staff time to check into the matter.
Councilmember Adams moved, Councilmember Hammerel
seconded, to table the budget appropriation report .
Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
MATERNITY LEAVE POLICY* Nlayor Butler moved, Councilmember Hammerel seconded, to
approve the maternity leave policy for the Police
Department. Niotion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
COMPARABLE WORTH STUDY* Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Hammerl seconded, to
approve the memofrom Assistant Finance Director Lattin
regarding the comparable worth study to be cione by
Control Data Corp. Business Advisors . blotion, Ayes
( 4 ) , Nays (0 ) .
INSURANCE AWARD* MayorButlermoved, Councilmember Hammerelseconded, to
award the insurance bid to League of Minnesota
Insurance Trustfortheamount of $75 , 050 . 34 . Motion,
Ayes (4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
1985 SQUAD CARS* Mayor Butlermoved, Councilmember Hammerel seconded, to
approve the purchase of three 1985 squad cars at $10 . 884
per unit from Elk River Ford-Mercury, Inc. with an
estimated trade-in amount of $2 , 500/car for a total of
$27 , 700 for all three cars . Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays
( 0 ) .
RESOLUTION #1715
UNCOLLECTABLE NSF
CHECKS* Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Hammerel seconded,
to approve Resolution #1715 , A Resolution Declaring
Certain ChecksUncollectable and Removing themfrom the
Various City Accounts . Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
TRANSFER OF FUNDS
LIQUOR OPERATING FUND
TO GENERAL FUND* Mayor Butlermoved, Councilmember Hammerel seconded, to
approve the transfer of funds from the liquor operating
fund in the amount of $15 , 000 to the general fund.
Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
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TRANSFER OF FUNDS
GENERAL FUND TO IMPROVEMENT
& EQUIPMENT OUTLAY FUND* Mayor Butlermoved , Councilmember Hammerel seconded , to
approve transfers of funds from the General Fund to the
Improvement and Equipment Outlay Fund in the amounts of
$20 , 000 and $17 , 604 . Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
TRANSFER OF FUNDS
GENERAL FUND TO BUILDING
CAPITAL PROJECT FUND* Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Hammerel seconded , to
approve a transfer of funds from the General Fund to
Building Capital Project Fund in the amount of $20 , 000 .
Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
TRI�NSFER OF MWCC DEBT -
SEWER OPERATING FUND TO
SEWER DEBT FOND* Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Hammerel seconded, to
approve a transfer of the MWCC Debt Service Credit -
Sewer Operating Fund to Sewer Debt Fund 1966-1976 in the
amount of $16 , 334 . Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
LOAN PAYMENT - ADMINISTRATIVE
VEHICLE* Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Hammerel seconded,
to approve a loan payment in the amount of $1 , 4 5 4 f rom
the General Fund Administration Department to the
Equipment Outlay Fund as the fourth and final
installment to repay the cost of the 1980 Ford Fairmont.
Notion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
LOAN PAYMENT -
TRACTOR/LOADER/BACRHOE* MayorButlermoved, CouncilmemberHammerelseconded , to
approve a loan payment in the amount of $7 , 244 from the
General Fund Street Department to the Equipment Outlay
Fund as the fourth of seven installments to repay the
cost of the 1981 Ford 750 tractor/loader/backhoe.
Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
LOAN PAYMENT -
DDMP TRUCR* Mayor Butlermoved, CouncilmemberHammerelseconded, to
approve a loan payment in the amount of $4 , 650 from the
General Fund Street Department to the Improvement and
Equipment Outlay Fund as the second of five
installmentsforthe GMC dump truck. Motion, Ayes (4 ) ,
Nays ( 0 ) .
LOAN PAYMENT -
SEWER OPERATING FUND* Mayor Butlermoved, Councilmember Hammerel seconded, to
approve a loan payment in the amount of $5 , 0 0 0 f rom the
Sewer Operating Fund to the PIR Fund as final payment of
the $50 , 000 loan. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
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NAVARRE WELL LOAN PAYMENT
WATER OPERATING FUND TO
SEWER OPERATING FUND* Mayor Butler moved, CouncilmemberHammerel seconded , to
approve the fifth and final loan payment in the amount
of $2 , 017 from the Water Operating Fund to the Sewer
Operating Fund. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
NAVARRE WATER TOWER
LOAN PAYMENT - WATER
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SEWER OPERATING FUND* Mayor Butlermoved, Councilmember Hammerel seconded , to
approve the third loan payment in the amount of $4 , 642
from the Water Operating Fund to the Sewer Operating
Fund. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays ( 0 ) .
CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT City Attorney Radio recommended that the personnel
matters be discussed in executive session.
At the recommendation of the City Attorney, Tom Radio,
Council directed staff to draft a memo to the liquor
store manager stating that discounts to City Employees
and elected officials are not to be allowed unless that
same discount is offered to the general public.
BILLS* Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Hammerel seconded,
that the All Funds Accounts and Liquor Store Accounts be
paid. biotion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays (0 ) .
ADJOURNMENT 11 :45 PM Mayor Butler moved, Councilmember Adams seconded, to
adjourn the regular Council meeting at 11 : 45 p.m. ar.d to
enter into executive session. Motion, Ayes ( 4 ) , Nays
(0 ) .
ATTEST:
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