HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-22-1983 Council Minutes CITY OF ORONO
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL, AUGUST 22, 1983.
ATTENDANCE 7: 0H PM The Orono Council met on the above date with the
following members present : Mayor Butler , Council-
members Adams , Frahm and Hammerel . Councilmember
Grabek was absent. Also present: Zoning
Administrator Mabusth , Public Wcrks Coordinator
Gerhardson, City Attorney Malkerson, City Engineer
Cook , Planning Commission Representative Adams , and
Recorder Sutton. City Administrator Benson was
absent.
PUBLIC HEARING
CA�MAN BAY SEWER PROJECT
LEHMA�/EDWARDS
7: �� �M Mayor Butler announced that now was the time and place
for the public hearing concerning the Carman Bay Sewer
Project. Recorder Sutton presented the affidavit of
publication and the certificate of mailing . Edward
Lehman and Ward Edwards were present . Butler noted
that this public hearing would continue to their next
Council meeting of September 12 , 1983 . Butler noted
the staff ineeting on Thursday, August 25 , 1983 , to be
held with the Lehm�ns and Fdw�rds .
Edward Lehman noted that they have been requesting
sewer since they original_ly put the main trunk lines
in. He noted that at that time the trunk line was put
in the surveyor stated that it would be cheaper to just
raise the trunk lines and that the City would put in a
lift station.
Ward Edwards noted that they had requested the hookup a
long time ago and that there have been so many delays .
Butler stated that this public hearing will be
continued on September 12 , 1983 , after more
information is submitted from the staff ineeting to be
held on August 25 , 19P3 , with the Edwards and Lehmans .
C�RT�FNT AGENDA* Councilmember Hammerel moved , Councilmember Adams
seconded , to remove item #20 from the consent agenda
for further discussion. Motion, Ayes (4) , Nays (0) .
Councilmember Hammerel moved , Councilmember Adams
seconded , to approve the Consent Agenda* subject to
� removing item #20 from the Consent Agenda , with all
staff reports concerning items reviewed at this
meeting to be attached to the original copy of these
minutes on file in the City Clerk' s office . Motion,
Ayes (4) , Nays (G3) .
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL, AUGUST 22, 19$�.
APPEARANCE — DON
MOSHER 7:3q PM Don Mosher asked the Council ' s opinions on such issues
as revenue sharing , cable tv, new federalism and tax
incentives for industrial development .
Mayor Butler noted the City' s concern if they
elimin�ted all revenue sharing . She noted that the
current level would be fine but to cut any of that the
City would have a problem with that . Butler stated
that with Cable TV Orono is involved in a joint powers
agreement with 1� other cities . She noted their
request has been responded to and those responses are
bei.ng analyized tc chcose the best one . Butler stated
that none of the 14 cities are at all happy with the idea
that all of a sudden all of the safeguards that they
have been assured of as far as being able to control the
holder of the franchise is going to go right down the
tube . Butler noted that that was not part of the
equation when they started into this , that the 14
cities have always been assured that we would in fact
be in control of the situation. Butler felt that if
the City is cut off from controlling the situation, who
will control it , certainlynotthefederalgovernment?
Mayor Butler noted that the City has used the
industrial development bonds on rare occasions and
that they would hate to see that option eliminated .
AP�RflVAL OF MINUTES* Councilmember Hammerel moved , Councilmember Adams
seconded , to approve the Minutes of the Regular
Council Meeting of August 8 , 1983 . Motion , Ayes (4) ,
Nays (0) .
PARK COMMISSION
COMME�ITS There were no Park Commission comments .
LARE MINNETONRA
CONSERVATION DIST. There were no Lake Minnetonka Conservation District
comments.
PLANNING CC�MMISSION
COMMENTS Planning Commission Representative Adams had no
comments .
PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments .
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL, AUGUST 22, 1983.
RESOLUTION #1514
#739 EDWARD LEHMAN
2450 CARMAN STREET
SUBDIVISION — ISSUANCE
OF BUILDING PERMIT Zoning AdministratorMabusth stated thatMr . Lehmanhas
fulfilled all the requirements for final subdivision
approval but that staff has asked that the City delay
final approval until the Cit.y knows where those sewer
lines will be . Mabusth noted that the staff would
like to see utility easements dedicated on the plat .
Mabusth stated that Mr . Lehman wishes to obtain a
building permit to build on Lot 4 where his future
homestead will be .
Mr . Lehman stated that he would not include Lot 4 in the
project so that he can proceed with the building
permit .
Councilmember Adams stated th�t the City should
include such languange in the resolution that it is at
the owners r i sk that he proceed , and that the Ci ty be
held harmless .
City Engineer Cook stated that he didn ' t think that Mr .
Lehman would lose any of his options but that the
applicant must make a decision by the time he installs
the plumbing .
City Attorney Malkerson stated additional language
could be added to the resolution to read "that owner
proceeds at own risk" and that "the building permit
wouldn' t be approved except for the fact that sewer is
available and that the certificate of occupancy will
not be issued until they are hooked up to sewer" . He
noted that way if they don ' t resolve anything it is
still encumbant upon them to hook up to sewer .
Mr . Lehman stated that he had no problem with that
addition to the resolution.
C�uncilmember Frahm moved , Councilmember Adams
seconded , to adopt Resolution #1514 , A Resolution
Approving The Request Of Edward T. Lehman To Apply For
ABuilding Permit Prior To Final Subdivision Approval ,
subject to the additions being made as noted above and
that City staff works out with the applicant for a
� signature on the amended Resolution. Motion , Ayes
(4) , Nays (0) .
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL, AUGUST 22, 1983.
#754 DARYLE L. UPHOFF
2497 KELLEY AVENUE
SUBDIVISION Daryle Uphoff was present . Mabusth noted Mr .
Uphoff ' srequestforaPRD, duplexcredit subdivision ,
which would bring the property into conformance again.
Councilmember Adams asked that the wording be
clarified for Lot 1-4 . He stated that it should read
"a single family detached. residence may never be
constructed on these lots" .
Mayor Butler noted that Outlot A should then be
included in that type of wording too .
Councilmember Frahm stated that Outlot A should read
"No structure or bui.lding allowed on Outlot A" .
Councilmember Frahm moved , Mayor Butler seconded , to
renew this application for the subdivision noting the
two changes to be made adding the word "detached" and
adding "Outlot A never to be built on" . Motion , Ayes
(�) , Nays (0) .
�755 ROBERT DUMAS
4�I 5 OL,D CRYSTAL BAY
S�JSDIVISION Robert Dumas was present . Mabusth noted Mr . Dumas
requestsatwolotsubdivision. Mabusth noted the 33 '
wide easement would not be suitable to expand on Lot 2
to serve as a future access . Mabusth stated that the
access issue would best be solved when the Robb
property comes up for development.
Mr . Dumas noted that he plans to continue to raise
apples for quite a while .
Mayor Butler moved , Councilmember Adams seconded , to
approve the subdivision application of Robert Dumas
creating two residential lots , finding the
subdivision meets all standards of the RR-1B zoning
district and the Orono On-Site Septic code , such
approval is subject to the following conditions :
l . Consideration of access to east for Lot 2 be
delayed until property to immediate east is
platted .
2 . Access to Lot 1 shall remain via the existing
driveway easement .
3 . Lot 2 must be combined with Dumas ' new homestead as
the City would be creating a land/locked parcel .
4 . Payment of a $20Q , �J01 park fee for Lot 1 .
Motion, Ayes (4) , Nays (0) .
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL, AUGUST 22, 1983.
#753 MILTON SEIFERT
1856 SHADYWOOD ROAD
VARIANCE Mr . and Mrs . Seifert were present along with a tenant .
Stewart Perry, applicant' s attorney, was also
present . Zoning Administrator Mabusth noted that Mr .
Seifert is asking for an amendment to original
Resolution #11h5. Mabusth noted that in that
Resolution it gave specific dates in which a lakeside
cabin be removed by July l , 1983 , and that rental use of
the two cabins along Shadywood cease being rented by
July l , 1990 . Mabusth noted Mr . Seiferts request that
that period be extended for another three years to July
1 , 1986 . Mabusth noted the Planning Commission
majority opinion and minority opinion.
Mayor Butler noted that she is very sensitive to the
concern of the neighbors . Butler noted that she was
present when Resolution �1165 was adopted and that
those dates were not picked for any certain �eason
except that the three years given would be ample time
to amortize out the elimination of the building .
Butler noted that at that time in 1980 the rental units
had not posed any problem to any of the surrounding
neighbors , and as a result could continue on until
1990 . Butler noted the current comments from the
neighbors and their concern with the lakeside cabin
and Seifert ' s request to extend the removal date
another three years.
Councilmember Adams stated that they were trying to
move over time to a resolution of the situation , which
were settled upon dates. Adams stated that if they
were to move forward a year on one of them could the
applicant give on the other one by making a tradeoff .
Councilmember Frahm stated that this was the way they
had looked at it in 1980 as a tradeoff and not coercion.
Frahm noted that they had worked out a reasonable trade
to help both parties .
Stewart Perry, Seifert ' s attorney, s�ated that it was
reasonable at the time but that there has been a change
of circumstances . Perry noted that Mr . Seifert
entered into that agreement in good faith but
something that was totally unforeseen has happened .
He noted Mr . Seifert' s involvement in a national
, project , whilededicating hismedical talents , hasput
a financial bind on him. Also that his new bride was
un�ble to work because of the new child . Perry asked
that the Citygive some consideration to one of Orono ' s
citizens who is doing a good deed for a lot of people .
Perry noted that by granting an extension it would help
him to continue with his grant.
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL, AUGUST 22, 1983.
#763 MILTON SEIFERT Stewart Perry and the Seiferts left to discuss
CouncilmemberAdamsproposalandthenreturned with an
answer .
Perry noted that the Seiferts would agree to giving up
two years .
Mayor Butler noted that that would back the street
cabins up to 1988 and move the 1983 cabin to 198h .
Councilmember Adams asked if the three years was
related to the grant expiration .
Perry noted that the grant lasts approximately a year
and a half more but that it would take them some time
more to recover .
Mayor Butler noted the Planning Commission' s
recommendati.on of the majority opinion to deny Mr .
Seifert ' s request and theminorityopinion to grant a 1
year extension for the lakeshore cabin . Butler
stated that in 198� the City did think they had an
agreement and that they felt assured then that the
agreement would be met in 1983 . What sort of thing is
the City suppose to look for to assure that you won ' t be
back in 198�?
Perry stated that the applicant is willing to waive any
objections that they presently have against the
circumstances in which the agreement was arrived at .
He noted that they would also waive any objections to
� taking of property without compensation . Perry
stated that this time it would not be a coercive
situation.
Mayor Butler asked if the applicant is anticipating
any other innovative forms of use of his mec3ical
talents?
Mr . Seifert stated that he didn ' t think so .
Councilmember Hammerel stated that in 198P� the
applicant was told that the City doesn ' t recognize
economics as a hardship. He stated that they are
right back where they started in 1980 with financial
problems .
Councilmember Frahm stated that the City was in
receipt of surrounding neighbors complaints. He
noted that by granting this extension that the Citymay
be setting a precedent for others .
City Attorney Malkerson clarified some points by
stating that the agreement is valid and an enforceable
one , but that also there would not be an adverse
precedent set if the Council were to modify the
resolution .
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL, AUGUST 22, 1983.
#753 MILTON SEIFERT Councilmember Adamsstated thathe wasappreciativeof
the applicant ' s willingness to shorten the ultimate
time period .
Councilmember Frahm stated that a Council in 1988
could again change or give them another extension.
Mayor Butler stated that she has a hard time
rationalizing the granting of a variance for
financial hardships . Butler stated that a two year
extension would be more reasonable .
Councilmember Frahm noted that the City is trying to
avoid those cabins down by the lake, he noted it wasn' t
discriminatory, but that the cabin located within the
Q-75' setback area is detrimental to Lake Minnetonka ,
which is why that date was set earlier than the other .
CouncilmemberHammerelasked whatthehardshipis that
differs from two to three years , he noted that they
still have the same hardship.
Councilmember Frahm noted that the City grants
variances only if there is a hardship to the land , and
asked for a valid reason other than a financial one?
Frahm noted that people living on fixed incomes have
the same problem with the soaring taxes .
City Attorney Malkerson suggested two things the City
Council may wish to consider . Although this is
technicallya new variance, they are actually talking
about a modification of a condition to a variance that
wasgranted in 1980 . Malkerson noted thatoriginally
wherl these dates were set there was a lot of discussion
about amortization of values , from the dol.lar value
they are probably giving up more by giving up the
rental on those two units for two years vs what they
would be gaining for three years on the lakeshore
cabin.
Perry noted that he would be losing $13 , 000 and gaining
about $6 ,000 .
Councilmember Frahm noted that they would be modifying
an existing agreement and that this really isn' t a
variance .
' Councilmember Frahm stated that he was against
modifying the agreement and that he didn' t want to get
into another contest with coercion. He noted that he
has trouble justifying it. He stated that the City' s
stand on buildings within the 75 ' of the lake which is
increased hardcover hasalwaysbeen strict. He noted
that by giving the extension he may not have control
over this in a few years .
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL, AUGUST 22, 1983.
#763 MILTON SEIFERT Mayor Butler stated that it is easy enough to police
the removal of the cabin by the lake but difficult to
police the renting of the cabins next to the street .
Stewart Perry stated that two years might not be enough
time to recover from his financial bind and that three
years would give him ample time.
Councilmember Frahm stated thatMr . Seifertmade those
decisions in 198� knowing full well what was in the
agreement .
Stewart Perry asked for 3P1 months to give Mr . Seifert
that extra time to remove the cabin and with the
reassurance that the applicant will not ask for an
extension .
Councilmember Frahm stated that he would only approve
an extension no later than December , 1984 , based on the
same Council being in office . Any thing further than
that he will not approve .
Mayor Butler noted that there was never any specific
reason or hardship that was cited in the original
resolution in 1980 .
City Attorney Malkerson stated that in 198� the
Council viewed this as an unique situation and acted
accordingly.
Mayor Butler moved , Councilmember Adams seconded , to
grant an extension to the conditions as stated in
Resolution �11�5 altering the dates of July l , 1983 to
December 31 , 1985 for removal of the lakeshore cabin
and also altering the dates on the two rental
properties adjacent to the street from .7uly l , 1990 , to
July l , 1988 , subject to the applicant waiving the
right of challenge the constitutionality of taking
without compensation and any or all other claims
related to the action by the City both now and before
and in the future. Butler directed staff to draft a
resolution for Council ' s final approval at their
meeting of September 12, 1983 , and that this is only
conceptual approval . Motion, Ayes (3) , Nays ( 1) .
Councilmember Frahm voted Nay.
STNC�L.E SEPARATE -
COPiMON OWNERSHIP ISSUE Mayor Butler asked for an update of the common ownership
issue.
Mabusth stated that by October staff should be able to
schedule a joint meeting between the Council and
Planning Commission . Mabusth noted that the common-
ownership issue should be resolved by the first of
the year .
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL, AUGUST 22, 1983.
CHANGE ORDER �2 -
82-?_ VALLEY PAVING City Engineer Cook asked the Council for an extension of
time from July 31 to August 31 based on the contractors
request .
City Attorney Malkerson asked if the City had incurred
any additional expenses because of the delay.
City Engineer Cook stated . that some inspection fees
would be increased a little. Cook noted that they are
over 1Qo on this particular street project . Cook
stated that the sewer project will be under about 1 or
2$.
Councilmember Frahm stated that he had a problem
granting an extension because they are already 10�
over on this project .
City Engineer Cook stated that the City could justify
granting the extension based on the weather . Cook
stated that it wouldri' t be a hardship on the neighbors .
' City Attorney Malkerson stated that the Council could
wait to grant the extension until they see that the
contractor is going to finish the job.
Mayor Butler stated that the City would like to see the
project finished this week because school will be
starting and the bus traffic will be bad .
Council gave direction to City Engineer Cook that they
will wait and see if the contractor can finish the job
and that they will not take any action tonight .
ADOPT RESOLUTION �1515
FOR 82-1 PROJECT AND
CALLING PUBLIC HEARING City Engineer Cook stated thattheCity Councilneedsto
call a public hearing for the Navarre Street and
Utility Project 82-1 and 82-2. Cook stated the total
cost for the sewer project was $301 , a46 . 62 with the
same total to be assessed . Cook noted that in
Schlee ' s portion that they have sewer and water .
Mayor Butler moved , Councilmember Hammerel seconded ,
toadopt Resolution #1515, A Resolution Declaring Cost
To Be Assessed , Ordering Preparation Of Proposed
Assessment And Calling For A Public Hearing On The
' Proposed Assessment For Navarre Sewer And Water
Improvement Project 82-1, such public hearing to be
September 26, 1983 , at 7: 00 PM. Motion , Ayes (4) ,
Nays (p) .
REGULAR MEETING OF TAE ORONO COUNCIL, AUGUST 22, 1983_
RESOLUTION �1516 FOR
82-2 PROJECT AND
CALLING PUBLIC HEARING Mayor Butler moved , Councilmember Frahm seconded , to
adoptResolution # 1515, A Resolution Declaring Cost To
Be Asessed , Ordering Preparation Of Proposed
Assessment And Calling For A Public Hearing On The
Proposed Assessment For Navarre Street Improvement
Project 82-2 , such public hearinq to be held September
26, 1983 , at 7 : 3� PM. Mot,ion , Ayes (4) , Nays (m) .
COUNTY ROAD 15 & 19
TRAFFIC COUNTS City Engineer stated that the traffic counts presented
were information items for the Council . Cook' s
conclusion from those traffic counts was that the
total traffic at intersection of County Road 15 and 19
is increasing and the same number of people are still
using the ring route .
HENNEPIN COUNTY COMMUNITY
HEALTB SERVICES PLAN -
PUBLIC MEETINGS Mayor Butler noted the public meetings concerning
community health service to be held on August 23 , 1983 ,
at the Minnetonka City Hall at 7 : 00 PM and August 7_4 ,
1983 , at the Richfield City Hall at 7 : 00 PM.
CABLE TV REPORT Mayor Butler noted that the August 23 , and September 13 ,
1983 meetings had been canceled and that on October 4 ,
J_983 would be the next meeting . Butler noted that the
City had taken a $5, Q4�Q bid .
RESOLUTION �1517 -
UPPER WATERSHED RETENTION
PROJECT Mayor Butler noted that this Resolution resulted out
of Dave Kockran asking if the City would submit a
Resolution of support for the Upper Watershed Sewer
Retention Project .
Mayor Butler moved , Councilmember Adams seconded , to
adopt Resolution #1.517 , A Resolution Supporting The
Petition Of The Lake Minnetonka Conservation District
Submitted To The Board Of Managers In July, 1975 To
Construct An Upper Watershed Storage And Retention
Project/CP-5 Painter Creek , recognizing that this
resolution will be read into the public record on
August 25, 1983 , at the public hearing at Orono Senior
High Auditorium. Motion, Ayes (4) , Nays (0) .
REVENUE SHARING PUBLIC
HEARING DATES* Councilmember Hammerel moved , Councilmember Adams
seconded , to approve City Administrator Bensons memo
stating the public hearing dates for Federal Revenue
Sharing . August 31 , 1983 at 7 : RJPJ PM and September 26 ,
1983 at 8 : 00 PM. Motion, Ayes (4) , Nays (0) .
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL, AUGUST 22, 1983.
JOINT COUNCIL AND
PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING - SEPTEMBER 1B,
1983 AT 10: 00 AM* Councilmember Hammerel moved , Councilmember Adams
seconded , to approve the joint meeting of the Council
and Planning Commission to be held September 10 , 1983
at 10 : 00 AM. Motion, Ayes (4) , Nays (0) .
S'I'UBBS BAY/CRYSTAL BAY
SEWER STUDY - PUBLIC
HEARING SEPTEMBER 12,
1983 AT 7:0H PM* Councilmember Hammerel moved , Councilmember Adams
seconded , to approve City Administrator Benson' s memo
dated August 18 , 1983 , concerning the Stubbs
Bay/Crystal Bay Sanitary Sewer Project public hearing
to be held September 12, 1983 at 7 : 00 PM, reallocating
Year VIII and IX C.D.B.G. funding and the proposal to
retain an engineering firm to initiate the studies .
Motion, Ayes (4) , Nays (0) .
ZAR PROPERTY STATUS* Councilmember Hammerel moved , Councilmember Adams
seconded , to approve City Administrator Benson' smemo
dated August 18 , 1983 , concerning the Zak property
purchase agreement for $5 , 000 . 00 . Motion, Ayes (4) ,
Nays (!�) .
RUSSELL LUND - NEW
THOUGHT CENTER Councilmember Adams asked that staff follow-up on the
Church of Religious Science issue.
J.S. RATZ - TRAFFIC
SIGNAL �� � �12* Councilmember Hammerel moved , Councilmember Adams
seconded , to approve City Administrator Benson ' s
letter dated August 9 , 1983 to J.S. Katz concerning the
traffic signal at County Road #6 and State Highway #12 .
Motion, Ayes (4) , Nays (�1) .
WEST HENNEPIN HUMAN
SERVICES PLANNING* Councilmember Hammerel moved , Councilmember Adams
seconded , to approve City Administrator Benson' s
letter dated August 11, 1983 to Diann Dunlap and Jean
Kotteman concerning their acceptance to the position
as Orono ' s representatives to the West Hennepin Human
Services Board . Motion, Ayes (4) , Nays (0) .
SUMMIT PARK - BARBARA
PETERSON* Councilmember Hammerel moved , Councilmember Adams
seconded , to approve City Administrator Benson' s
letter dated August 11 , 1983 , to Barbara Peterson
concerning the Summit Park. Motion, Ayes (4) , Nays
(�) -
PARR LANE ACCESS* Councilmember Hammerel moved , Councilmember Adams
seconded , to approve City Administrator Benson' s
letter Dated August 12, 198:� , to the Park Lane
Residents concerning the adoption of the resolution
closing the Park Lane Lake Access . Motion , Ayes (4) ,
Nays (0) .
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL, AUGUST 22, 1983.
PUBLIC HEARING UPPER
WATERSHED DISTRICT -
TIM ADAMS* Councilmember Hammerel moved , Councilmember Adams
seconded , to approve City Administrator Benson' s
letter dated August 12, 1983 , to Councilmember Tim
Adams concerning his attendance . Motion, Ayes (4) ,
Nays (G3) .
STORM SEWER* Councilmember Hammerel moved , Councilmember Adams
seconded , to approve City Administrator Benson ' s
letter dated August 11 , 1983 , to Paul Anderson
concerning the storm sewer . Motion, Ayes (4) , Nays
(�) •
CRYSTAL BAY POST OFFICE -
ROGER LEMIEUX* Councilmember Hammerel moved , Councilmember Adams
seconded , to approve City Administrator Benson' s
letter dated August 18 , 1983 to Roger Lemieux
concerning the Crystal Bay Postoffice . Motion, Ayes
(4) , Nays (�) .
CITY ATTORNEY REPORT City Attorney Malkerson had no comments .
LICENSES* Councilmember Hammerel moved , Councilmember Adams
seconded , to approve the following licenses :
Rum River Plumbing & Heating - Plumbing license
Krasen Plumbing & Heating - Plumbing license
Motion, Ayes (4 ) , Nays (!�) .
BILLS* Coancilmember Hammerel moved , Councilmember Adams
seconded , that the All Funds Accounts and the Liquor
Store Accounts , be paid . Motion, Ayes (4) , Nays (0) .
ADJOURNMENT Councilmember Frahm moved , Councilmember Adams
seeonded , to adjourn the Council meeting at 9 : 30 PM.
Motion, Ayes (4) , Nays (0) .
� Ma y C . B tler , Mayor
Thomas Frahm, Acting Mayor
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Alberta Strom, City Clerk