HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-30-1978 Council Minutes � � CITY OF ORONO
Regular Pseeting of the Orono Council, 7: 02 P.r�. ,
March 30, 1978
The Orono Council met on the above date with
� the following members present: Mayor Van Nest,
Councilmembers Butler and rsassengale. Absent:
Councilmembers Paurus and Pesek. Also present:
City Administrator Benson, City Planner Olson,
City Attorney P�alkerson, and City Engineer Olson.
The P4inutes of the Regular P�eeting of rsarch 16 , MINUTES
1978, will be presented at the meeting of
PZarch 30, 1978.
i10 cor_unents fron the Park Coru�ission. PARK coru�zsszorr
P10 comments frorl the Lake I��innetonka Conser- LP1CD REPORT
vation District.
No corunents from the Planning Cor.unission. PLAPI�TING COPMQISSION
P4r. Alan Olson, City Planner, entered into the SUBDIVISION
record the following information concerning 3201 Navarre Lane
a subdivision for Crosstown Properties , 3201 #266 •
Navarre Lane, dated January 23, 1978 , which Crosstown Properties
states :
The City Council approved final plat per the
Planning Comr.►ission recor:unendations, plus
required title opinion and a developers'
agreement, all subject to resolution of approval
at the next meeting.
Staff = February 9, 1978 - 12 : 00 Pdoon
Have not yet received developers ' agreement,
plats, revised easements or assessment waiver.
As of February 6 in the afternoon, received
sketches of road impr_ovements and sewer/water
lines which should be approved by City Engineer
prior to developers ' agreement or final approval.
Water assessr►ents have not been reviewed by the
engineer regarding P4innetonka Beach extensions.
Council - February 9, 1978
Tabled until items have been provided for corinlete
staff review.
Staff - March 24, 1978
I recorv:�end final approval of this subdivision
according to the attached resolution and approval
of a subdividers ' ac�reement as drafted by the
City Attorney and agreed to by the developer. (Continued)
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I2EGULAR MEE^1ING OF THE ORONO COUPdCIL, PZARCH 30, 1978 Paqe 2
The City will have to enter into an agreer,lent SUBDIVISION
with Minnetonka Beach to cover the water service 3201 Plavarre Lane
which crosses the border. Approval of the (Continued)
subdivision at this tinle will facilitate the
recording of same and will be subject to the
necessary conditions ensuring correct road and
utilities installation.
Council t�eeting P4arch 30, 1978
Butler moved, P4assengale seconded, to adopt RESOLUTIOrd #891
Resolution #891, A Resolution Approving The Lafayette Ridge
Plat of Lafayette Ridge. Motion, Ayes (3) -
Nays (0) .
Mr. Alan Olson, City Planner, entered into the SUBDIVISION
record the following infornation concerning a #309
subdivision request of Durwell Vetter, Bic� Island, B�g Island
dated December 12, 1977, which states: Durwell Vetter
P•4r. Clifford French was present to discuss the
Hennepin County Park Reserve District acquisition
plan for the whole of Big Island. The plan is not
complete or approved by the District' s Board, as
of yet, but Mr. French thought it would be early
in January. •
The acquisition sequence is planned to be as follows :
l. Acquire the Gridley-Vetter property, the Veterans_
Carip and a connecting link between the Veterans'
Camp and the existing Park holdings, all within
a five-year phase out of the Camp.
2. Acquire the undeveloped properties (without
structures) on the entire island.
3. Acquire the remaining developed properties
over a total 30-50 year time period.
The operating and recreational use plan is very
prelir,iinary, but points toward maintaining the
wildlife sanctuary and developing the Veterans '
Camp for day use.
Discussion on the subdivision proposal centered
on the fact that D•1r. Vetter has offered the land
to two other parties who seem agreeable working ,
with the Park District, but those offers apparently
expired before the application was ever made to
the City.
rhe r.latter was tabled until Piarch 13, 1978 for final
Park Reserve District negotiation prior to the City
action on the proposal. (Continued)
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Staff - February 28 , 1978 SUBDIVISION
Big Island
Called Clifford French at the Park Reserve District (Continued)
to advise him of this item coming up before the
City Council on r4arch 16 , 1978. Psr. French advised
that there has been no change or progress in the
negotiations for park purchase of the Vetter property.
He is to let staff kno��� of any progress by Piarch 9,
1978, for consideration by Council.
Staff - P�Iarch 13, 1978 ,
Received call from Denny Kilbane (part owner) advising
that the Park District is to proceed with the purchase -
subdivision request may be withdrawn.
Staff - March 16 , 1978
Clifford French visited me in the City offices and .
informed me that the above is indeed the case,
although no papers have been signed.
Council P4eeting - March 16 , 1978
No one present for this item. Council heard the
above information and tabled item until applicants
ask to reopen the request. Applicant is so notified.
Letter from Alan Olson to Mr. Durwell Vetter
dated P�4arch 17, 1978, states:
"This letter is to advise you that the Orono City
Council has tabled this iteri until such time that
you as the applicant should request reappearance
to pursue the matter.
The lack of appearance before the Council last
evening tends to confirm the City's understanding
that the subdivision rec�uest is to be withdrawn
due to sale of the property to the Park Reserve
District. "
Council P4eeting - March 30 , 1978
P�r. Alan Olson also noted that P4r. Gridley has
requested that this matter be postponed for 30 days.
Mr. Dick Benson, City Administrator, noted that Mr.
Greg P�Iack, Hennepin County Par]: Reserve District, had
called today and stated that Mr. Vetter withdrew his
application for a division and was going to sell
to the Park District. (Continued)
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REGULAR P�lEETING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL, MARCH 30, 1978 Page 4
Massengale Moved, Butler seconded, to table SUBDIVISION
the request of Durwell Vetter, Big Island, for Big Island
a subdivision until the regular Council meeting (Continued)
of April 27, 1978. P4otion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
P•4r. Alan Olson, City Planner, entered into the SUBDIVISION
record the following information concerning the #336
Forest Arms Subdivision for Carol Sue Dongoske, Forest Arms Subdivisi<
dated P4arch 21, 1978, which states: Sue Dongoske
Sue Dongoske has requested an appearance before
the Council to discuss more items concerning the
completion of this plat. On NoveMber l� , 1977,
the Council referred the item to the Planning
Cor.imission for recommendations concerning six
items. On November 21, 1977, the Planning
Corcunission requested additional information as
listed in D1r. P�uhich' s letter of November 22 , 1977.
No information was received by the City until
March 6, 1978.
Regarding r4s. Dongoske 's letter and the previous
action, I recor.unend the following:
l. Building perr.iits should not be issued until
the road is installed and passible. If permits
are considered, no permit should be issued until
a developers ' agreement is completed and no
occupancy should be allowed until the road is
certified complete by the City Engineer. No
permits should be issued until the Planning
Commission has had a chance to review all �
pertinent inforr.iation and make recomr.►endations
to the Council as directed on November 14 , 1977.
2 . The Planning Comr.iission should be directed to '
cornplete their study of the matter, including
the newly defined issue of boat dockage in the
channel. The applicant should be reminded t�at
reviews cannot be completed until all necessary
information is supplied. In particular, the
City has no road construction plans for the
Engineer to review, has no dock plans or suggested
layouts for the Planning Commission to review,
has no title opinion or other evidence of any
lot restrictions or covenants on the property
and has only poor copies of the plat and DNR
channel permit from which to work.
3. A developers ' agreement and bond should be required
prior to any final approval.
4. Park dedication fees should be paid as should all
delinquent taxes. (Continued)
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5. Conservation easenents, variances, drainac�e SUBDIVISION .
requirements and dockage rights should be Forest Arms
investigated by the Planning Corunission. (Continued)
Planning Comr.lission - r4arch 27, 1978
Sue Dongoske and Robert Dongoske were both present.
The Planning Commission suggested the applicant draft
a developers ' agreement for review by City staff
and Council. They also instructed the applicant
prepare and submit plans and specifications on the
proposed street.
The Planning Cor*tr_mission suggested the Council review
the proposal at the next meeting. They also recor.i-
mended no building Permits be issued until developers '
agreement and street specifications and plans be
approved and accepted by City staff and Council. _
The Planning Corcunission also requested more data
and documentation before deterr.lining status of
riparian rights and docks for lots located on
previously dredged channel.
Council Meeting - March 30, 1978
Robert & Sue Dongoske were present to discuss their
division commenting that they will have their engineers
complete a survey of the division, a developers '
agreement, review lot rearrangements, and will return _
to the Planning Commission to present further data�
determining dock status and riparian rights for the
lots in question.
Mayor Van Nest requested staff to review park dedication
fees and recomriendations on payment of these fees and
also to review all other pertinent data.
Mayor Van Nest moved, r�assengale, seconded, to table
the request of the Forest Arms Subdivision for Carol
Sue Dongoske until all data is complete. r4otion,
Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
Dsassengale moved, Butler seconded, to refer to the
Planning Commission a request for more data and
documentation before determining status of riparian
rights and docks for lots located on previously
dredged channel in the Forest Lake Subdivision.
P�4otion, Ayes (3) - P1ays (0) .
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tdr. Alan Olson, City Planner, entered into the record SdAPIAi]CES
the following information concerning variances for 1565 Orchard Beach pl,
1565 Orchard Beach Place, Arthur Heintz dated P7arch 16 , #�345
1978, which states: Arthur Heintz
The City Council adopted a resolution denying variances.
and instructed staff to inspect and review garage as
hazardous building/non-conforming use. Neighbor
present said he would send a letter of cor►plaint
with several neighborhood signatures.
Staff - P�arch 24 , 1978
The City has received a petition from three neighbors
complaining of the garage on this property and
requesting City action to abate a nuisance. On March 22,
1978 , the Building & Zoning Department inspected the
building and made findings consistent with the
neighbors ' cor:unents. Staff will proceed with the .
requirements of P�innesota Statutes 463. 15 and present
inforr.lation for your attention at the next meeting.
Council P4eeting - March 30 , 1978
I�Ir. Olson also comr_►ented that all data has not
been reviewed. Mr. Heintz reviewed again the past
history of the lot in question and displayed pictures
of the lot where it was habited and contained a cabin
and dock. Mr. Heintz requested permission to
construct a dock on the property stating that he has
had an opportunity to sell the property for
approximately $7, 000.
Mayor Van Nest commented that a dock is an accessory
use structure; there is no home on the lot. We
have to know when a dock, if any, was on the property.
It appears that there are two__ issues here:
1. Hazardous building on lot (garage)
2. Dock - legal non-conforming use status.
Mr. Heintz commented that rir. Hooper, 1530 Orchard
Beach Place, has housed some of his personal
material in the garage.
Massengale moved, Butler seconded, to table the
above requests until the next meeting to give
staff time to review. Motion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
REGULAR MEETIPdG OF THE ORONO COUNCIL, PZARCH 30 , 1978 Page 7
Mr. Alan Olson, City Planner, entered into the record JOINT USE DOCK LICENS
" the following inforrnation concerning a joint use Kelly Ave. Holding Co
dock application for 1978 for the Kelly Avenue #350
Holding Company dated February 2, 1978, which states :
Kelly Avenue Holding Company applied for r.►ultiple
dock license for 1978 for mooring of six boats.
This is for the purpose of providing dock space
for each of the six dwelling units in the three
duplexes on the Kelly Avenue Holding Cor.lpany property.
Exhibit B (sketch) - notes indicate 400 ' shoreline
Exhibit C (survey) - dir.lensions noted on survey line
adjacent to shoreline appear to confirr.l the 400 '
shoreline.
This property is zoned LR-1B (one acre) , r'Iinir.lum
lot width and shoreline requirement is 140 ' .
From the zoning standpoint, only two docks would
be permitted.
Sor.►e of the other agencies are currently considering
regulating docks by a shoreline footage factor. If
we should adopt this policy, the number of permitted
slips would vary accordingly.
Planning Commission - February 27, 1978
Mr. Lindsay, representing the developer, was present.
The Zoning Administrator explained the proposal as �
submitted. He expressed concern over the shoreline
site plan indicating six individual docks. He felt
this plan could provide mooring of 12 boats on only
400 ft. of shoreline. The shoreline and lot width
requirement in this one acre zoning district is 140 ft.
The total length of shoreline on the subject property
lacks 20 ft. froM the requirement as regulated by
our current policy.
The Planning Cornr,lssion recommended approval of three
docks for the mooring of six boats. One boat for
each of the six dwelling units in the three duplexes
on the parcel. Each of the three docks would be
lir,iited to a width of 5' 6" and a length of 25 f_t.
The Planning Cor.unission did not stipulate the distance
between the docks gr specific location of the three docks.
Council Meeting - Diarch 30, 1978
3utler moved, D4assengale seconded, to adopt Resolution RESOLUTION #892
892, A Resolution Approving A Joint Use Dock Permit Kelly Avenue Holding
nd License For Kelly Avenue Holding Company, tlotion,
� �es (3) - Nays (0) .
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Mr. Alan Olson, City Planner, entered into the re- SUBDIVISION
cord the following information concerning the request 3024 Casco Point Road
for a subdivision of Joseph Braun, 3024 Casco Point #002
Road, dated February 23, 1978, which states : Joseph Braun
The applicant, Joseph Braun, and purchaser, Steve
Plowman, were present, each represented by an
attorney. Alan Olson read over chronology of
events over the three years since the subdivision
was first presented. Important points noted and
acknowledged by the attorneys present were that
the delays on this application were caused by the
applicant' s failure to proceed and not by any
action or lack of action by the City. On the
contrary, the minutes of each City action clearly
indicate the necessary steps for division completion
and indeed, the applicants acknowledge that they
still cannot agree among themselves over details
of whom should proceed with the application.
The Council reviewed the entire chain of events
and took particular note of the Planning Cor.unission
recor.u�endation made February 6 , 1978. The Council
instructed staff to prepare a resolution setting
forth findings of fact as to why the division
should now be denied.
Council D4eeting - March 30, 1978
Mayor Van Nest asked the applicant if all parties
concerned had time to review the resolution drafted
by staff to deny this plat.
Mr. Bruce Malkerson, City Attorney, comr►ented that
he had forwarded copies of this resolution to the
applicants' attorneys.
Mayor Van Nest moved, P4assengale seconded, to table
the resolution to deny the plat of .7oseph Braun,
3024 Casco Point Road, until the next rleeting to
allow the applicants to respond in writing to this
proposed resolution. Psotion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
The applicant was not present concerning the [-�ayzata �aAYZATA COUNTRY CLUB
Country Club proposal. This iter.► was deferr_ed until
later in the evening.
REGULAR T�iEETIPJG OF TF�E ORONO COUNCIL, r7ARCH 30, 1978 Page 9
i4r. Alan Olson, City Planner, entered intd the r1AVARRE DRIVE-IN THF.ATRE
record the following report concerning the
Navarre Drive-In Theatre dated February 15 , 1978,
cvhich states:
The 1978 license application has been received
for your review.
The 1977 license was approved with conditions on
P4arch 28, 1977. Complaints ensued after the
theatre opening causing a special public hearing
to be held May 24, 1977 and thereafter a special
Council meeting held i4ay 26 , 1977 where Resolution
#790 was adopted. An additional public hearing
was held on June 13, 1977 when �esolution #790
�vas extended. A third public hearing was held
October 24 , 1977 at the close of the season.
Throughout these r.ieetings , many of the same
corlplaints were heard regarding contxol of patrons
an� control of access. At the last rteeting, the
theatre owners indicated a possible chanqe in land
use to a residential development. Pdo sp�cific
action was directed at that time due to the possibility
of the theatre not reopening.
Since last fall, the City staff has had no further
contact from the property owners regarding any change
in land use. The theatre license application would
tend to indicate that the other plans have been
set aside.
If the theatre is to be relicensed, the lists of
previous requirements speak for themselves. The
one physical requirement that has never been met .
is that of fencing the perimeter for control both
during the shows and when the area is closed.
Documents in the record show that the City has
been requesting a fence since at least 1970. .
The Council may wish to hold a new public hearing,
to i�sue the license for a temporary time to there-
after review the operation or to withhold issuance
until any required conditions might be accorlplished.
Council r�eeting - February 23, 1978
Applicant has requested tabling until P�arch 16, 1978
because they could not attend this meeting.
Council P'Ieeting - P�tarch 16, 1978
Staff reviewed application and actions of the past
year. P4el Lebewitz was present for the applicant
and he indicated that present intentions were to
�pen the theatre, although development of the property
aas not ruled out.
(Continued)
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The Council indicated that should the theatre open NAVARRE DRIVE-IN THEATRE
for business, the requirements of the past year (Continued)
would be enforced, including peririeter fencing.
Council tabled the iter,t after requesting Mr. Lebewit?
to send a letter outlining his present intentions
for the property and specifically addressing the
fence issue.
Council t�eeting - P4arch 30, 1978
Mr. Braverman, President of rlorthwest Ciner�la,
commented that he is still attempting to find
other uses for this property and did meet with
Roger Laurence from Tonka Toys and they will be
meeting with a developer in the near future to
discuss the uses of the propertv; meanwhile, we
will upgrade this property, trim, cleanup the area,
etc. and we want to reopen the theatre in r.mid-April.
idayor Van Nest commented that there are sufficient
findings of facts before us that have come before
us the past year to support the need for fencing.
If the theatre is to be part of the comr►unity, then
a fence is needed. If the property is to be developed
for other purposes, then we should know it now.
Councilmember I�assengale: We do not have other
proposals befor.e us. We have no choice but to
be concerned with a fence. There is testimony to
support need for a fence.
Bruce PZalkerson, City Attorney: Conditioned to grant-
ing a license, Council can regulate type, height,
and length of fence.
P4r. Randy -Bloom, attorney representing Northwest
Cinema, cor.unented that a temporary �ence would not
be appropriate. At this time, we do not plan on
operating the theatre long enough to justify a
permanent fence.
Mayor Van tdest: I think that the time has corle to
make a decision on the fence.. �^7e have been talking
about it for many years.
Councilmember Butler: We need a fence now and we
should act now. The application is for a f_ull
year' s operation, let' s not wait until the public
comes to us again demanding action.
Bruce Malkerson read Chapter #61, which states: (Continued)
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"Application and Issuance of License, llny person NAVARRE DRIVE-IN. THEATR
may apply in writing to the Village Clerk for a (Continued)
�icense under this chapter, designating the place
�rhere the business is to be carried on, a brief
description of the theatre and the plan of operation
and a plan of the same, with the names of the
applicants signed thereto. The Village Clerk shall
present such application to the Council and the Council
shall at the same or any subsequent meeting pass
upon such application and may in its discretion
authorize the issuance of such license to the applicant,
subject to such conditions as the Council rlay deem
necessary and expedient for the protection of the
health and general welfare of the Village. "
Massengale moved, r4ayor Van Nest seconded, to direct
staff to draft a resolution for the next meeting to
include granting of license subject to:
1. The Licensee shall cor.►ply with P4innesota Statutes,
S299H, et seq, relating to the State Fire Code
and obtaining a permit therefor prior to operations
in 1978.
2. The two off-duty officers shall be empowered and
instructed by the Chief of Police to erect no
parking signs during the hours of operation and
to tag all violators of no parking signs on the
streets to the rear of the theatre.
3. The names and addresses of the off-duty police
officers and the manager of the theatre shall be
presented to the Chief of Police and Licensee
shall notify the Chief of Police of any changes
thereto. Names and addresses of the fieldmen
shall be given to the off-duty police officers. � •
4. One of the fieldr;ten shall patrol the rear lotline
of the premises during and prior to the show in
order to prevent trespassing and the entrance of
indiviudals in areas other than through the
authorized entrances to the premises.
5. Prior to any operations of the theatre in 1978,
the Licensee shall erect and maintain in good repair
at all times a permanent fence enclosing the north,
east and west perimeter of the property to secure
those property boundaries at all tirnes, and a fence
or other acceptable means of securing the south
or front property boundary during all times that
the theatre is not in actual operation, mhe
Licensee shall submit a plan of the required fencing
for approval by the City staff and City Council
and shall erect said fencing according to the
approved plans. The fence will not add to diminution
of value of surrounding properties but shall be
esthetically pleasing to the general area. (Continued)
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The fencing shall be erected by the Licensee and NAVARR� DRIVE-IN THEATRE
inspected and approved by the City prior to the (Continued)
effective issuance of the 1978 License by this
- resolution. The opening of the theatre or any
public showing prior to completion of the fencing
and approval by the City shall be a violation of
this resolution and a violation of Orono Municipal
Code Chapter 61 which violation shall be prosecuted
by the City Attorney.
6. The City staff is directed to conduct weekly
inspections to insure compliance with the provi.sions
of this resolution.
7. The City may impose any other supervisory and
enforcement regulations as the City deems necessary
from time to time to insure compliance of the
- Licensee with the City codes and in crder to
protect the health, safety and welfare of t�e
Citizens of Orono.
8. Applicant to construct fence according to submitted
and appr_oved design standards , fence to preclude
ingress and egress on three sides all year and
perhaps on County Road #15 side unless applicant
can control ingress and egress on that County Road
#15 frontag�. Fence should be decorative, 75� .
opaque and esthetically acceptahle and high enough
to prevent passage.
Discussion followed by the applicant on how to design
fence, etc.
Mayor Van Nest coru;►ented that the applicant should
discuss and submit to City staff a plan but if we
are to design a fence tonight on the Council table my �
cor.unents are a 7-8 foot high decorative fence on all
four sides.
The City Council directed applicant to discuss this
matter with staff and to prepare for Council action
on this matter at our April 13, 1978 Council meeting.
Motion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
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REGULP.R PdEETING CF THE ORONO COUrICIL, PZARCH 30, 1978 Page 13
Mr. Alan Olson, City Planner, entered into the record STUBBS BAY MARINA .
the following comr�ents concerning the Stubbs Bay
irina, dated P4arch 16 , 1978, which state :
The att�-�ched letter received fror_i the Department of
Natural Resources req�iests City action or response
before April 9 , 1978 concerning revision of the dock
layout and dredqing application �ending before the
City and the DNR.
The issue is whether or not the City would consider
zezoning a small portion of the adjacent residential
are� to facilit.ate dock rearrangement in lieu of
dredging or .whether dredging w:�ll be permitted at
all regardless of resulting dock layout. The prc>���sed
layout is similar to one submitted in a letter from
Mr. McC1E�ary's attorney, received December 22 , 1977.
The P]_ar�ning Cc�mmissl cn last reviewed the dredging
application on Auaust 15, 1977. _
LE�tter from Ronald Harnack, Department of Natural
Resources, dat�d N.�arch 9, 1978, states:
�etter Fages 15-17
Lettc�r from �lan Olson to R�.iald Harnack dated
March 21, 1978, states:
etter Page 18
Council Meei-ing - March 30, 1978
Mr. Olson also commented t?�at the 1°78 lice<zsE
applica}ion is now bzing reviewed by the Marina
Lzcensi«g Corrli-ni`_tee. -
Mayor Van Nest: It appears that tnere are two is�ues:
l. �ock configu.ration
2. Rezcning
The Lake Minnetonka C:�nservation District will not
allaw the docks to be built ir. front ot �? residentially
zoned area. I do not th;_nk th�t the DPdFc would a,rant
a p�rmit to dredge the total harbor area except to
a�.lo�a a�cess t� `he launch area. The Planning
Ccmmi ssion has �tatPd they ao r�ot fa�*ui fota� harbor.
dredging and do not appr.cve rezor��r.g. � "
James r4cCleary: I think tt�at the Dr3R will e�rant a
permit to dredge the total shoreline area bLt this
� s very expensive and I w�;ild want to pursue other
lternativas such as combining praperty on the other side
of the street. I do think that the City has to grant
me a permit to dredge_ and North Star rsarina dredged
last year. (Continued)
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REGULAR MEETING OF TIiE ORONO COUNCIL, P�RCH 30, 1978 Page 14
Mayor Van Nest: I think that the record shoiilc� be STUBBS BAY ?�IARINA
clear that the Planning Cor.unission apProved 66 (Continued)
lips only, whether they were in the water, or
_ry stacked, and the Planning Commission was against
the rezoning because of expansion of a commercial
area. The North Star r�Zarina permit granted last
year was approved because they followed a r.master
plan for maintenance dredging. They had received
a permit years ago from the DNR to dredge and last
years' permit was to allow them to maintenance
dredge the sarie area. Your request is new. You
do have alternatives to dredging such as use of dry
land slips, or rezoning. I do not believe that
harbor dredging should be allowed.
James r4cCleary: I have not studied the alternatives
to know what impact no dredging would do, i�Zy
docks are substandard and I need to have ther.l replaced.
Mayor Van Nest: 66 slips are not a permitted use
in the B-2 zone. They are non-conforming uses;
additional slips, if any, should be on the shore.
Massengale moved, i�iayor Van I1est seconded, to direct
staff to send a letter to the Department of Natural
Resources objecting to rezoning the area. 2iotion,
Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
..ayor Van Nest also stated that on-land storage is
more cost effective and environmentally sound and
according to all records, the Stubbs Bay r�iarina is
entitled to only 66 slips. Based upon this and
other findings of facts,
Mayor Van Nest moved, Butler seconded, to include -
in the letter to the DP1R the following facts:
l. 66 slips for many years
2. Past and present zoning does not allow rental
slips as a permitted use.
3. There are alternatives to allow 66 slips (some
on land, some in water)
4. No need for new harbor
5. City would support 30-foot launching area
6. City would favor application for some on-land
starage
7. City is opposed to harbor dredging because of
environmental damage to the lake_ because of
description of filtration and nutrients.
8. Stubbs Bay is highly euthrophic
9. Stubbs Bay is remote and highly congested
10. There is adequate land available for dry
storage without double-decking
Motion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
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Assistant Z��ring Adminis�rator ��/��_(��\�A �i�i �ii�L�lt;�
City of Crono
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Crystal Eay, 1,flr' S5323 � �
RE: P.A. 78-6032, Stubbs Bay }�!arir,a
Dear �4r. Olson: � - -
The D'��R is contemplating final action of the perrr,it application for
dredging at Stubbs Eay Ttarina. Nokever, a recent discussion with
Tir. J�,es ,•;cClEary, o1�.T,er of the r:.arina, revealed a possible alterr.ative
to dred�ing.
A srrall parcel of land on the north side of the site is riparian to L.ake
D;innetor.ka and is zoned residential. The parcel is o�,-ned by T;r. 1�,cCleary
_ and is adjacent to the marina property.
1'+e have a sketch of the marina site with a proposed dock Iayout that can
accommodate the presently licensed number of slips. The access to these
dock slips would have to be from the parcel presently zoned residential.
It is important to note that this alternative would eliminate dredging
along the shoreline, with a possible exception for a launching ramp.
If .this �lternative were to'be implemented, it will be necessary for
t�ir. b;cCleary to submit a petition for rezoning of the small residential
parcel. Because a rezoning of this _parcel will alleviate many of the
concerns of the City and D?�'R kith regard to impacts on Lake b�inr�etonka,
I am asking for your cor�ments and review of the attached plan, If the
City has no major objections to the alternative proposed, I will recom-
nend to r;r. A�cCleary that he make fcrmal application to the City for
rezoning, a prerequisite for permit issuance.
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If, on the other hand, there are relevant objections to a rezoning, I am
asking the City to make a final decision on the dredging proposal as
originally submitted. The D?�R will �ake a final decision k�ith or without
the City's input if we do not receive some feedback in the next 30 days.
ADMINISTRATIVF SERVICES • 1YATERS, SOILS, ANO MINERAlS • L�.NDS AND FORESTRY
GAME AND FISH • PARKS AND RECREATION • ENFORCEI.IENT AND FIEID SERVICE
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If you hove any further uuesti�ns on �his r..nitex, plcase do not hesitate
to contact me or 1;ike A'ue] 1 er of „�y s�aff at 2�6-7523. � .
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Regional Hydrologist
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T�r. Ronald Harnack
Regional Hydrologist
MN DNR Division of 47aters
1200 k'arner Road •-
St. Paul, A'.�T 55106
RE: S tubb s Bay Ma r in a _ -
Mr. Harnack, � �
This letter is in response to your letter of March 9, 1978
concerning a proposed dock layout revision, rezoning and/or
dredging. _ . �
The City of Orono briefly reviewed the proposal last fall, but
has not yet responded because the applicant has not pursued the
matter and the 1978 marina license review has not been completed.
� Indeed, the 1978 Stubbs Bay License application received 1-11-78
did not include any proposed dock layout.
T'his matter will be conceptually reviewed by the City Council at
their March 30, 1978 meeting and the City expects to have all
• marina licenses reviewed shortly thereafter. Consequently, we
request an extention of the 30 day response period indicated in
- your letter sa that all matters will be adequately reviewed.
Sincerely,
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. P. Olson .
City Plaru�er -
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cc: James McCleary
Henry F. Nfuhich, Zoning Administrator
Walter R. Benson, City� Administrator
REGULAR MEETING OF TIIE OR02d0 COUNCIL, P4ARCH 30 , 1978 Page 19
Mr. James Olson, City Engineer, presented the RING ROUTE
attached letter concerning the ring route dated
�ril 12, 1978 :
Letter - Pages 20-23
Mayor Van t7est: [�hat would be the dollar short fall
for the alternative?
Jim Olson: Twice the cost of the proposed route.
Mrs. Sara F9yatt, 5680 Echo Road, Excelsior: l�1e
feel that the alternate would better serve the area
an d have less impact on the area.
Jim Olson: Traffic moves northeast, not directly
north as the alternative would provide. People
want to travel by time, not miles.
Mrs. ��Jyatt: Could we not construct the alternative
and defer the connection to Highway �12 until a
later date?
Jir.l Olson: We would have to do a better job
carrying traffic to Highway #12.
Mr. Howard P•�eagher, 3980 Dahl Road: Is there not
'uplication between Orono and Hennepin County?
Jim Olson: No. Hennepin County approves our design.
Unidentified person: Aren't there conflicts in
speed limits?
Jim Olson: We cannot set speed limits. The State
does this. . "
IIr. Robert Gehrman, 4300 Sixth Avenue North, presented a
survey to the City Council commenting that we feel
that the alternative to the north route is more
acceptable to the Orono residents.
Dr. Gehrman' s survey states:
The Orono Council has promoted the concept of a ring
route to alleviate traffic volumes on County Road
15 and is committed to the concept of this ring
route. Given this premise, which alternative do
you prefer? Diagonal/Straight?
Eighty-six signatures for �he straight route and
three for the diagonal route.
'here were no other comments from the audience.
Massengale moved, Butler seconded, to table the
ring route matter until the meeting of April 13,
1978. P�otion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
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April 12, 1978 cha.r�s A. E.ickson
Ltn Af. Pcx��lsky
Harlan Af. O?son
Honorable i�fayor and City Council
City of Orono .
Box G6
Crystal Bay, Minnesota 55323
Re : Ring Route
Alternate �aluation
Our File No. 139
Dear Mayor and Council:
Pursuant to a request by the City Council, we have reviewed the proposed
alignment of the Rino Route, outlined in the Preliminary Engineering Re-
port dated October, 1977, and an alternate alignment along To���n Line Road
suggested by a citizens' group. It is our conclusion that the original
� alignn,ent proposed in the Preliminary Engineering Report should be selected
by the City of Orono. Following is a general discussion of our analysis.
We have examined, in a general way, the history involving the City's par-
ticipation in the evaluation of Hennepin County Road 15 along the shores of
Lake Minnetonka. The adverse affects of widening Co.Rd. 15 to a four lane
arterial highway have been �oell documented. The traffic volume on Co.Rd. 15
is at or near the capacity of the existing roadway. The only viable alter-
native to enlarging Co.Rd. 15 is to provide an adequate, usable alternate
route to remove some of the total traffic from Co.Rd. 15. -
The predominate traffic mwement is oriented to the east, towards the down- -
town metropolitan area. Based on the configuration of Lake Minnetonka, the
only feasible alternative to Co.Rd. i5 is a route that goes north of the
Lake to T.H. 12 and then east. We concur with this concept and accept it
as a given factor in the analysis of the proposed Ring Route alignment.
The Ring Route, as proposed in the Preliminary Engineering Report, is 4,628
feet long (.88 miles) between Co.Rd. 19 and Co.Rd. 6 (Watertown Road) . Ttie
estimated cost is approximately $505,000. The right-of-way requirements have
been estiriated at 7.3 acres. The construction mentioned above is considered
the first phase of a total improvement of the Ring Route concept. Additional
work is contemplated by Hennepin County and by the State of Minnesota in order
to complete the total route.
The alternate aligrunent prepared by a citizen's group in the area is due north
along the west municipal boundary, utilizing Town Line Road between Co.Rd. 6
and T.H. 12. The alternate alig;unent betiaeen Co.Rd. 19 and Co.Rd. 6 is 5,250
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Honorable Mayor and City Council April 12, 1978
City of Orono
Box G6
Crystal Bay, 2�tinnesota 55323
Re : Ring Route
Alternate Evaluation
Our File No. 139
feet long (.99 miles) . No detailed engineering studies have been made of
the design of the alternate route so estunated construction costs are not
available. Assuming construction of the alternate route was similar to
the proposed route, a rough cost estimate based on proportional length
��ould be about $570,000, an increase of about 13%.
The proposed roate is designated as a 2•iunicipal State Aid (I•ISA) street. 'I'his
designation �aould have to be reassigned to the alternate route for construction.
The increase in length, 0.11 miles, is more than the 0.07 miles the City has
available to designate for MSA streets, It would be necessary to revoke some
other I�fSA designation on an existing street in order to do this.
Town Line Road bet�.reen Co.Rd. 6 and T.H. 12 is a narrow gravel roadway, de-
ficient in width, cross-section and grade. In order for the ring route con-
cept to become worlcable, Town Line Road would have to be reconstructed. The _
length is approximately 3,750 feet (.71 miles) . Ass�ing si.milar construc-
tion to the proposed ring route, a rough estimate of cost based on proportional
len�th y�ould be about $410,000. In addition, there is a very narrow bridge at
the railroad tracks south of T.H. 12 which would have to be replaced. This
bridge would cost in excess of $300,000 based on today's prices..
In order for the ring route concept to work, for it to draw off traffic from
Co.Rd. 15; a continuous route on an improved paved roadway is necessary. Town
Line Road lies within three different cammunities. The City of Orono does not
have the financial capability of constructing the entire route from Co.Rd. 19
to T.H. 12. �This cost would be in the magnitude of $1,280,000. Hennepin
County has indicated that they are not able to construct this facility �aithin
the foreseeable 'f�ture.
We have attempted to reduce the various elements of comparispn between the
proposed route and the alternate route to a point system, which is outlined
on the attached sheet. It must be pointed out that this quantitative number
system is very subjective. The danger in this kind of approach is that the
various categories do not necessarily carry the same weight, although they
have been given the same number rating. For example, if the "construction"
and "User Factors" items are twice as important as the others, the "scores"
difference �aould change from 55-43 to 75-53 in favor of the proposed route.
Tt►is very general review of the �ahole ring route concept did not permit a
more sophisticated analysis.
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Honorable Mayor and City Council April 12, 1978
City of Orono
3ox 66
Crystal Bay, Minnesota 55323
Re : Ring Route
Alternate Evaluation
Our File No. 139
In summary, ��Jhen comparing the advantaoes and disadvantages of both the
proposed route and the alternate route, it is our opinion that the pro-
posed route outlined in the Preliminary Engineering Report is the most
acceptable for its originally intended purpose and is in the best in-
terests of the City of Qrono.
Very truly yours,
BONES .k00 • ROSENE, ERLIK & ASSOCIATES, INC.
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J mes C. Olson
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Encl.
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. Very Good -
Good - 4
Average - 3
� Poor - 2
Very Poor - 1
RI?�G ROUTE EVALUATION
Proposed Alternate
ALZGIv�-F1�T
Horz Curvature, 3 S
Vertical Curvature 0 0
Affect on Undeveloped property 2 3
Affect on Developed Property 2 3
P1SA Designation S 1
Subtotal 12 12
COI�STRUCTTON
Construction Cost 4 2
Right-of-way Cost 3 3
MSA Funding S 1
Subtotal 12 (
E NV I RO:�'siE NTAL
Wetlands 2 2
ZYee Cover 4 1
Channel Crossing 3 2
Recreational 3 3 -
- Subtotal 12 g
SAFETY ASPECTS
Co.Rd. 19 & Co.Rd. 84 4 4
t,latertown Road 3 2
Railroad ZYacks 1 2
T.A. 212 1 2
, Existing Driveways 2 3
Subtotal 11 13
USER FACTORS
Suitability for Intended Purpose 4 2
User Costs 4 2
Subtotal 8 4
TOTAL 55 43
, REGULAR MEETING OF THE OROP10 COUNCIL, MARCH 30, 1978 Page 24
Mayor Van Nest Moved, Masse,ngale seconded, to STREFT STANDARDS
direct staff and the City Engineer to develon
standards for public and private streets to
include policies and techniques. PZotion,
Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
Dick Benson, City Administrator, informed the INTERCEPTOR APPLICATION
City Council that he is in receipt of a letter
from the r4etropolitan Council regarding the Arr.iy
Corps of Engineers permit app�ication for
construction of forcer.�ain interceptor, dated
March 27, 1978, which states:
"The Metropolitan Council received the above
application for review and cor.unents.
The Council will be reviewing this in the next
few weeks and would welcome any conments you r.iay
wish to make. Any cor.�r_ments should be sent within
one week. "
End of letter
Dsassengale noved, Butler seconded, to direct the
City Administrator to draft a letter to the P�etro-
politan Council stating the following concerns as
stated in the January 23 , 1978 letter, which states:
l. Potential settlement of clean-out manholes on
either side of channel causing stress con-
centration on the forcemain with the resultant
possible failure of the pipe. �
2. Restoration of Banks. The specifications and
the permit should include provisions to restore
the banks and the riprap to prevent bank erosion,
together with maintenance of suitable ground
cover imr.iediately after construction.
3. Channel Erosion. The Storr.i �aater P4anagement
Plan indicates a r:►aximum storm water flow of
152. 5 cubic feet per second (cfs) entering
Tanager Lake and a flow of 92. 2 cfs leaving
Tanager Lake through the channel into Browns
Bay. Provisions should be included in the
permit to prevent channel excavations at such
tines as there are currents in the channel
which could wash sediment and debris into
Browns. Bay. (Continued)
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REGULAR P-1EETING OF THE OROPJO COUi1CIL, PZARCH 30, 1978 Page 25
4. P4aintenance of Boat Traffic. Provisions should INTERCFPTOR
be included in the permit to ensure the maintenance (Continued)
of boat traffic on either a contiunal basis or
on at least an interrnittant basis during construction.
Motion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) . ,
Mayor Van Nest inforr,ied the City Council that he NOERENBERG PARK
was in receipt of a letter to Mr. John Boland,
Chairr,lan of the Metropolitan Council, from P�r. Clifton
E. French, Hennepin County Park Reserve District,
dated Plovember 30, 1977, concerning funding for
Noerenberg Park.
Letter - Pages 26 & 27 '
Mayor Van Nest also cor.unented that all the neighbors
- are supportive of this proposal and it would be
helpful to request the Hennepin County Park Reserve
District representative to appear at our next Council
meeting to discuss this project.
Butler moved, P4assengale seconded, to request the
Hennepin County Park Reserve District representative
to appear at the next Council meeting. Motion,
Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
Mayor Van Nest reviewed his memo concerning CENTRAL WATER SYSTEMS
central water syster.ls for new subdivisions
dated P�arch 9, 1978, which states:
Several things have coMe to my attention recently
that neighboring corruaunities are requiring, that
I think we should discuss as to their application
to Orono.
l. Recently the City of Shorewood has been requiring
all new subdivisions to provide its own central
water system consisting of a central well and
water mains and hydrants serving each hor.ie within
the subdivision. It is unclear to me whether
or not the central system is operated by a
homeowners association or whether the system
is dedicated to the City. There are several
questions that this idea raises as to whether
or not fror.t a legal standpoint, a City would
be within its rights to require the installation
of a central water system by the developer in
an area where City water is not generally provided
and from an engineering standpoint would such a
requirement be desirable. (Continued, page 28)
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f�o�4D ?'�r. John 6o]and, Chai_rcan
OF CGN.:.',I�5101V`_RS
F'�tro�oliian Council
���.,,`�;�E,:S_;,;,ER 300 J�?tro Square Bui. ldinc� _
�reA�R'!AN St . Paul , )iN 551�1
�•��.�wrous
,,;n:-HA�:U_R�ON SuSject: Pro;osal for S�ecial P�creation Use, '�7oerenberg 1��i:�orial
��=E��"`"”' Coun ty Qark
PICGt:'n'LION .
�,���TER BP.A7T 'U�,ar N�r. Bo1 and; - �
?I:MI:EA�Ol�S .
o.�.sYo�:sz�.o pursuant to the 1�et ropo) i"tan Counci 1 's 1 nter i n Spec i ai �ecreat i on
"'�S'"` Use ,4r�nu�-��n t dated September u, 1977 and 1977 I eg i s 1 at i on, tne
A141K.GFEENE y2nnepin Hennepin County Park P.eserve Dis-trict is su;-�mitting a .
YOJ�D �;,aster plan and grant proposal for P,egional Sp�cia) P,ecreatio� Use
L:.Y�REWCCF.HAEG � COnSISt1�1C� of a public garden a� the ►dozrenberg l�femorial County P�ric_
YCE�:N57�.LE
,:,�e ��G57ROM q ci t i zens 'Joeren�erg Gardens Advi sory Cor-�.�i tte� has served to
..,�.:�,.00:,s
advise the park F',eserve District regarding the overzll develo�r-:�nt
=""'as B.""`:P^�EY.'R. and ��tent i al f und i ng of the encl osed ga re��n proj ec t. Th i s c�;�ni t ree,
i.w►�c r���N -
organized in 1974, has recently reco.�,�ended a�proval of the r+aster
iREDE./:�NG plan and, along t��ith the Park Res_erve District, is presently conducting
ST.lOUlz IARK `
- inforr�ational r��etings i•�i th area:•�ide publ ic o;;icials and oth�r
�""`"SR.p„" - interested groups.
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RAVHO\DN.SEAGREN - pre� II�II�IaTy dzvelop�ent cost estir�ate-s ior ihz garden are approximately
����".ro`�5 S 1 ,250,000_ The Pa rk P.eserve D i s t r'i ct and the C i t i zens Adv i svry _
. � ' ' ' Comnittee recom��nded regional special use funding totaiing $3��'J,000
�..��o� E.FRENCH L�at ��rould provide basic support facilitie�, P'�ase 1 , such as garden
SVIENINT£NDE,n si�te gradin�, irrigation syster�, and visitor parking lots_ The
� Committee and the park Reserve District e>:oresse� �he s�rong belief
that approva] of regional funding for the initia] phase of this
development wovld enhance private contribu�ions and ericourage such.
, � donations to assist in comQletino the second phase ($9D�,00�) of the
gardzn develo�::,znt for publ ic visitation_ A su�:r.ary o� pre] ininarY - '
cost esiirates �or the bas_ic suo�ort facilities is as follo:�rs: _
1 rriga�ion Syster� S110,40�J .
Earthwork 50,000
Asphalt paving for parking 21 ,000
Pools 65,U��J
!;a] ls 1�5 ,0�0
� Estir�ated cost for basie
support facilities 5352,40a
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outl i ned in the 1 t��rin S; ��;al r�creat ion l';e :-.--����nt. A sl i c'> set a.�d
r,�rrativc acc�-;:��nies �`,� �,sTer pl �n and 1 t�.i I1 intentio-:�:lly �;o� a hint
here for an invitativn to pres��nt this slide set a� a fu;ure r._�ting of t��
t.�tropolitan Cou�cil �nd/or t�etrorolitan Parks and Op�n Spece Co,�.;�ission'
In addition, a three,di�;���sional scale n�del has recen�ly b�e� co��leted
�-;hich is now available for Council �use, Jack I�auri �z` article that ��:as
. rzcently pub] ish�d in the Piinnesota Hortic_ulturist provi �es an excellent
sumT,ary of this gard�n project, Th�uyht �•ou ;-!ould find thts interesti.ng, a7so.
Sincerely, .
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SecretarY to the Board � -
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cc: Ann A- tiines, Chairnan, t;oerenberg Gardens Adyisory Con�nittee
David Cochran, President, Minnehaha Crezk 4!atersh�d District
,lares Daly, t�etropolitan Council _
P,epresentat i ve- Tad lude - - -
Frank Mixa, Executivz Director, ta�e N,inneto�ka Conservation District
S�nator George P� llsbury
� E. F. Robb, Yennepin County Board of Comnissioners �
Representative Bob S�arles - -
.Joan Simons, 1'►etropolitan Parks and Open Space Co,���isslan
Br-ad L'an Nest, ��aY°r� Ci ty of Orono
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Copies also sent to: Beverly McCumber _
i�ark N',ahon
- Peter Enck
- �7oerenberg Gardens Adviso ry Committee
- Senator Emily Staples � - -
� - Executive Committee of The Friends of the Parks '
Jack N�auri tz
John Sunde
Don King -
John Christian
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, REGULAR P�IEETING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL, P4ARCH 30 , 1978 Page 2g
2 . The City of P7innetonka requires that the fee CEPITRAL �aATER SYSTEMS
owner certify his approval for any requests (Continued)
involving rezoning, subdivisions, or variances
involving his land. I believe that this require-
ment would preclude the possibility of the City
going to sorne expense in processing a request
only to find out that the petitioner is not
the fee owner of the property and is making
the request only to determine the feasibility
of purchasing the property.
3. I understand that some cities that use P�1SA funds
for the construction of new roads or the major
improvement of existing roads also assess the
road improvement costs to any property owners
that have lateral benefits to those roads. This
apparently allows the City to generate cash
that may be used for some other purpose from
_ its citizens for projects that are paid for by
riSA funds. From a legal standpoint, is this
permissible under present State Statutes and
how could it apply to Orono in the future use
of its r1SA funds?
Mr. Alan 01son, City �Planner, reviewed his memo
concerning the above dated P�arch 21, 1978:
l. Central Water Systems
Advantages: Generally deeper well with more
assured supplies; fire protection water would
be available; provide distribution systems
which could be incorporated into an eventual
overall City system.
Disadvantages : Ownership and maintenance
responsibility arguments; likely City take-
over and operation of disconnected, perhaps
labor intensive systems; increased front-end
costs for developer; likely to be inefficient
for the small, scattered developments Orono
sees and encourages.
Recommendations : Should probably be considered
for developments contiguous or close to the
existing City system, or in areas where the
City would likely install such a system, or for
developments exceeding a minimur.l number of lots
(say 20?) .
2. Owner Certification
This is tentatively (and unsatisfactorily) done
now with the layout of our current application
forms. Subdividers do this at the end with the .
title opinions. I recommend revising all application
forms to require certification of ownership and
notarizing, such revision to occur as soon as possible.
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, REGULAR P�ETING OF TIiE ORONO COUNCIL, MARCH 30, 1978 Page 29
Mayor Van Nest reviewed with the City Council the ORONO-LONG LAKE
meetings that have been held with the Psetropolitan INTERCEPTOR
Waste Control Comr.iission and the rsetropolitan
Council concerning the City of Orono' s interim
Cornprehensive Sewer Plan and the areas that will
be served by the Orono-Long Lake interceptor. Orono
will include in its interim Cor.lprehensive Sewer Plan
the sewer service area set forth on Map #1 as ar,lended
on March 16, 1978.
r4ayor Van Nest requested Bruce Malkerson, City
Attorney, to read a letter drafted by staff this
afternoon which responds to the Metropolitan
Council on our recent Meetings.
Letter - Pages 30-32
Massengale moved, Butler seconded, to approve the
above letter and authorize the Mayor signing it.
Motion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
Mayor Van Nest also commented that the Metropolitan
Council has granted Orono an extension of time to
April 20, 1978, to appeal our Systems Statement and
to review plans and specifications for the proposed
Orono-Long La3ce interceptor.
Mr. Louis Oberhauser appeared before the City WAYZATA COUNTRY CLUB
Council to discuss his letter to them requesting Boundary Changes
boundary changes at Wayzata Country Club, dated
February 17, 1978, which states:
"I am enclosing a photostatic copy of a plat sheet
setting forth an area which involves property owned
by the Wayzata Country Club. The Wayzata Country
Club would like to readjust the City boundaries
between Orono and Wayzata so that the area lying
west of the . east end of the tennis courts, and
north of Highway 12, currently within the municipality
of Wayzata would be included in the City boundaries
of the City of Orono� and the area lying east of the
tennis courts and drainage ditch and south of an east-
west line running from the northwesterly corner of
Lot 8, Block 1, Allo Rae Terrace would be included
in the boundaries of the City of Wayzata.
The reason for this request is that the Wayzata
Country Club would like to be able to develop the
property adjacent the 16th fairway. A portion of
this property is in the City of Wayzata and a portion
of this property is in the City of Orono. To develop
this property, it will be necessary for us to obtain
services such as sewer and water from the City of
Wayzata, and also would require us to get the approval
of both municipalities as to any developmental plan. (Continued; Page 33)
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Lir. John Boland
Psetropolitan Council
. 300 Metro Square Building
7th & Robert Streets
St. Paul, P�innesota 55101
Dear Mr. Boland: �
This letter will summarize what we understand our agreer,►ent
to be as a result of our meeting on P�4arch 30, 1978, at the
14etropolitan Council office:
l. The City of Orono will subriit to the Metropolitan
�aaste Control Commission and Metropolitan Council
an interir.t Comprehensive Sewer Plan which will
include, among other things, the following:
A. The total capacity of the proposed Orono-Long Lake
_ interceptor is, as according to addendum No. 3 of
the preliminary engineering report, 1. 72 rt.g.d.
average.
B. The Cit.y of Orono will only be assigned the following
capacity from the Orono-Long Lake interceptor:
1. 50 c. f.s. from the Orono lift station, .17 c.f. s.
from the Long Lake lift station, and . 09 c.f.s. from
future additions along the interceptor in subregions
7 and 8. Exhibit A (map #2) . This is a total of 1. 76
c. f.s. which equals l.11 rl.g.d.
C. The City of Orono in the interim Comprehensive Sewer
Plan and in the Final Comprehensive Sewer Plan shall
decide where the capacity assigned to the City of Orono
will be utilized within the City of Orono and where
the sewer service area will be located within the
City of Orono.
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Idr. John Boland
March 31, 1978
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D. The sewer service area maP for the Orono-Long Lake
interceptor as transmitted to the City of March l,
1978 , shows an area in the City of Orono substantially
larger than the area which can be served by the
capacity assigned to the City of Orono.
E. The City of Orono has the sole right to decide what
areas in the City will be served and sewered in the
future.
F. In cor.►puting the additional homes which could .be
served by the assigned capacity, t7ie City' s
. computations as to daily flow from each building
shall be conclusive.
G. The construction of the Orono-Long Lake interceptor
will not in the future r.�andate that the A4USA and/or
2-1SSR line be moved or r,►aintained to include those
rural areas as shown on the sewer service area map
for the interceptor. Exhibit B (map B)
2. The systems statement for the City of Orono will be •
revised as follows:
' A. To include all of the above statements.
B. That the City of Orono may develop a Comprehensive
Land Use Plan in accordance with the revised systems
statement.
C. That the City of Orono r.►ay locate the PSi7SA line in
the Cor_iprehensive Land Use Plan wherever it desires.
D. The City of Orono may show as areas never to be
sewered those areas outside of the urban service
area as shown on Exhibit C attached hereto.
E. The City of Orono riay show in its Comprehensive Plan
whatever areas it desires to show as rural, under-
sewered areas for which sewer will never be extended
and which area will not be included ever in the urban
service area.
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?ir. John Boland
P4arch 31, 197a
Page 3
3. The existing r1SSR line will be reviewed and finalized
after the Comprehensive Land Use Plans of the City of
Orono and adjoining communities have been reviewed by
the rletropolitan Council and other interested parties
as provided for in the Land Use Planning Act.
4. The I�ietropolitan Council staff and r4etropolitan Waste
Control Commission staff agree to the above and will
recommend approval of the interim Comprehensive Sewer
Plan and revised systems statement as set forth above.
If the above does not comport to your understanding of the
agreements reached, please inform us irunediately.
Very truly yours,
Brad Van PJest .
Mayor of Orono
cc: David Graven, Esq.
John Hoeft, Esq.
P4embers of the City Council of Orono
Representative Robert L. Searles
Metropolitan Comriission r�er�ber Jaries Daly
I�ietropolitan Commission t4ember Robert Mazanec
Bruce D. Malkerson, City Attorney
James Olson, City Engineer
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, REGULAR MEETING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL, MARCH 30, 1978 Page 33
By placing this property all within the City of WAYZATA COUNTRY CLUB
Wayzata, we would be able to deal with the City of (Continued)
Wayzata exclusively on the development of the
property and would be obtaining our services from
the City of Wayzata.
The trade based upon current market value would
mean that Orono would be picking up a parcel of
property with an assessed market value of $121,000 ,
based upon 1977 real estate tax statements and in
turn would be giving up a parcel of land with an
assessed market value of approximately $15 , 000 -
$18, 000.
Before making a formal presentation, I would like
your informal reaction to this request.
It will be beneficial to the Wayzata Country Club,
since under the current situation,they are required _
to obtain duplicate licenses since the municipality
dividing line dissects the clubhouse. "
Council PZee�ing - March 30, 1978
Mayor Van Nest cor_unented tt3at he would want� the
areas contiguous to the proposal (Chevy Chase,
Ferndale Green, and Summit Station) to be rlade
aware of this proposal and to respond to us on this
matter.
Bruce P�alkerson, City Attorney, requested time to
review the statutes on this type of proposal.
Mr. Louis Oberhauser commented that he wants to
proceed very slowly on this request to allow every-
one to be made aware of the total rationale of
adjusting boundary lines.
Mayor Van Nest moved, Massengale seconded, to table
until the next meeting the request of Louis Oberhauser
for proposed boundary line changes at Wayzata Country
Club. Motion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
A letter from Bernard Eiarrington, Metropolitan [aaste BERN1iRD HARRI21GTOiJ
Control Commission, :_dated March 15, 1978 , was LETTER
received. March 15, 1978
Letter - Pages 34 & 35
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� City of Orono
' P. 0. Box 66
Crystal Eay, hiN 55323
Dear r�ayor Van Nest: .
This let�er is in response to your letter of Narch 1 , 1978 and a
follow-up to previous correspondence regardina comprehensive se»er
planning and the Orono-Long Lake Interceptor (?�1WCC Project No. 71-13.). �
tiJe wi]1 look forward to receipt of modifications to Map 1 , "Urban-
Rura] Service Area", which includes the areas identified in your -
Narch 1, 1978 letter.- Upon receipt of this inforration and other
information herewith requested, we will for�ti�ard a copy to the
' Metropolitan Council and request their review and comnents on the -
Comprehensive Sewer Plan (CSP) dated April , 1977_ This CSP (Phase I:
i977-1990) will be considered an interim plan until such time as a
� CSP is prepared in accordance with the requirements of the Netropolitan
`' Land Planning Act.
- A review was made of your CSP and corrar►ents were made on the pian at
the June 17, 1977 meeting of the Metropo7itan Council 's Physical �
. Deve7opment Corrmittee. Our comment at that meeting was that the CSP - �
showed a difference in the Urban Service Area and the Sewer Service
Area. This difference was not resolved until we received your letter _
of February 6, 1978 stating that the_City recognized that these areas -
- ' were synonomous. It is our understanding that the modified tiap 1, - � �
previously referred to in this letter, wi]7 confirm the agreement of
the two areas. - • �
_ The CSP also indicates that the City will study and recorra�nend solutions
to the sewage disposal problems in areas not having sewer service avail-
able. The CSP indicates that alternative solutions wi17 be considered
with the insta7lation of sanitary sewers having the lowest priority. It
is the intent of the Commission to recognize alternative waste manage-
ment systems in the rural areas as we are in the process of initiating
the "Alternative 4�'aste Management Study" under our 201 Facility Planning.
� This Study together with the Metropolitan Council 's 208 Program wii7
i-ecorrpnend policies and procedures for on-site systems to be included �
in an amendment to the Waste Management Policy Plan. A review and comments
on rural area sewage systems will be made �ollowing the developnent of .
the above procedures. These policy and management procedures should be
" _ a part of the CSP as prepared under the 1�letropolitan Land Planning Act.
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- The CSP i nd i ca tes tha t the Ci ty wi 11 i ni ti a te ��ha tever ac ti on i s
necessary to provide adequate intercommunity sewer service in
the future. The intercorr��nunity sev:er service agreerent between
your City and the City of Long Lake for the Hackberry Nills states
that some actian will be reouired by Orono upon tne completion of
the Orono-Long Lake lnterceptor. l�Je assume that the City of Orono
wi 11 fol l ow through on any i ntercorrnuni ty seti,�er needs that are
necessary even though the interceptor (as a forcemain) will have a
different location than the previously proposed gravity sewer. Since
this action may require the installation of a local sewer within a
five year peric�d, the CSP should be revised to include a description
and tentative time schedule for this .improvemen"t. _
In response to your statements regarding the design of the Orono-
Long Lake Interceptor, we again state that the design parameters _
(population served and time period) are as confirr�ed in our letter of
March 1 , 1978. These design parameters are in accordance with the
existing and projected sewerage needs of the area. It is the -
responsibility of the Commission to provide faci7ities in accordance
� with local and metropolitan planning and determine a prudent design
7 i fe for the faci�i ty wni ch i s acceptabl e to the NJi nnesota Pol l uti on
Contro7 Agency and the Env�ronmental Protection Agency. The Corunission
. � be7ieves that it has carried out its responsibility ior the p roper
- � design of this metropolitan interceptor_ - _ - -
Very tru7y yours,
- ' Bernard arringto
Directo •f Engineering '
SJH:RAO:bdw
cc: Metropolitan Counci7 •
Minnesota Pollution Control Agency �
- City of Long Lake ,
R. J. Dougherty., MWCC
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Butler r;loved, P4assengale seconded, to approve LETTER TO JOHN BOLAND
the letter to John Boland, Metropolitan Council, r�arch 20, 1978
froM Dick Benson, City Administrator, dated
March 20, 1978 . 2�Iotion, Ayes (3) - P�days (0) .
Letter - Pages 37 & 38
Butler r►oved, P�assengale seconded, to approve LETTER TO BERNARD
the letter to Bernard Harrington, P4etropolitan HARRINGTOrd
Waste Control Corunission, from Mayor Van Nest March 23, 1978
dated P4arch 23, 1978. P4otion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
Letter - Pages 39 & 40
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r7r. John Boland
l�etropolitan Council
300 Metro Sc�uare Building -•
7th & Robert Streets ..
St. Paul, P3innesota 55101
Dear Mr. Boland:
I would li}:e to review with you our concerns to date with the
City of Orono's Systerns Statement as it relates to Orono' s
Comprehensive Sewer Plan and the Orono-Long Lake Interceptor.
AttacYunents to this letter include Mr_ Bernard Aarrington's
letters _of ?3arch l, 197.8 and P4arch 15, 1978, and the City of
Orono' s response to t'Lr Harrington dated 2darch 7, 1978,
2ir. Robert C. Plazanec' s letter to us dated March 8, 1978, and
our response to P'ir_ Mazanec dated March 13, 1978_
?�ir. Mazanec called me the r.lorning of tiarch 14 after receiving �i�
- my letter and asked me what the City' s concerns were, at this
• • point in time_ I reviewed with him our- problems in communicating,
_ our objections to a revised Systens Stater.�ent, that was drafted
by 2'Ietropolitan staff without �our knozaledge and also our concerns -
of not receiving any cor,iments to our Comprehensive Sewer Plan,
which has been before the Mefsopolitan t�7aste Control Commission
for ten months. Our main concern at this time, is that we have
been trying our bes� through many meetings and mailings to Metro-
politan Council and Metropolitan Waste Control Corunission staff
as documented, to obtain as r►uch information and data as possible
allowing us to make reasonable decisions in our planning process
and to abide by the Planning Act.
As discussed with Mr_ r4azanec, his letter dated March 8, 1978, ,
received 2iarch 13, 1978, allows us to respond in seven working days
to r�eet a March 23, 1978 deadline to respond to the Physical
Developr�ent Corsmittee and to request a hearing on the Systems
Statement. This deadline does not allow our staff time to review
Mr. Mazanec' s letter or Mr. Harrington' s letter dated 2�Iarch 15,
1978 received today, ?•iarch• 20, 1978. �le were assured several months
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ago of our concerns with the approaching c3eadline that we would
not be put in a position of not being able to respond within a
reasonable tir�e because of the 60 day appeal period termination.
Mr. tSazanec agreed to extend the aeadline to meet with the Physical
Development Co�unittee until P7arch 30, 1978 and advised r�e to
request from you an extension of the ?larch 23 aeadline to request
a public hearing. �ae feel that the years it has taken to gather
comprehensive data, which is just now being forwarded to us,
certainly justifies an extension to t}�ie public hearing deadline_
Please advise rne as soon as possible of vour decision in this _ �
natter. - �
Yours truly, .
L.t/��'�/� �
j�alte R. Benson
Cit Administrator -
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P9r. Bernard J. Tiarrington �
• P�Setropolitan <<'aste Control Commission
350 Metro Square Building
7th & Robert Streets �
St. Paul, P•4innesota 55101 - -
• Dear, Mr. .Harrington:
This letter is in response to your letter of Piarch 15, 1978,
concerning the Orono-Long Lake interceptor as presently proposed
for the City of Orono. -
The cor.iments made in the last paragraph of vour letter of March 15
indicate that the ��'aste Control Commission has provic3ed answers
to questions raised by the City of Orono pertaining to the sewer
service area of the Orono-Long Lake interce�tor. The Waste Control
Corimission has no� safisfactorily answered the question that the
City of Orono has raised concerning the future capacity of the
forcemain _ for that part of the sewer service area which lies out-
side of the proposed MUSA line and in the rural service area_ '?'he
� information contained in your letter of Idarch 1, 1978 does give us
the capacity of the lift stations which are designed to handle the
� projected flow from that portion of Orono which lies within the
urban 'service area_ We have compared the flows and population
equivalents for the li�t stations contained in your letter of March 1.
with Addendum �3 of the Engineering Report and the Orono Comprehensive
Sewer Plan and they seem to be consistent. In other words, the
projected flows of the lift station would .seem to provide a reasonable
capacity for a twenty-year period f�r that part of the City of Orono
which lies within the urban service area.
The question which the City has raised, which the S7aste Control
Commission has not provided an answer, is what is the future caoacity
and the population equivalents of the forcemain for that portion
of the sewer service area which lies within the rural service area
of the City of Orono_ In other words, the City wishes to know what
level of urbanization has been projected b_y the Waste Control
' Commission in the sizing of the forcemain to serve that portion of
the sewer service area that lies in the rural service area of our
City.
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I9r. Bc-rnard J. HarrinQton
ISarch 23, 1978 � .
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During our meeting of February 2, 1978, you indicated to us that,
in fact, there was additional hydraulic capacity in the forcerrain
to serve sor�e future growth in the rural service area of our City �
and the question that we must have answered before we can support
the present design of the Orono interceptor, is what that future
capacity is and how you arrived at it.
Either the forcer�ain was designed for additional flows from the
rural service area of our City or the sewer service area of the
interceptor is incorrectly shown on the r�ap provided with your
letter of r7arch l, 1978.
The City would like to have the answer to this question in sufficient -
time that it can be reviewed by our staff and Council before the
I�letropolitan Council makes a final deterriination of the design and .
specifications of the Orono-Long Lake interceptor.
Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.
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Brad Van est
Orono P�Iayor � .
cc: Representative Robert L_ Searles
John Boland, Metropolitan Council
Jim Daley, Metropolitan Council
Bob Mazanec, Metropolitan Council Staff
� � Douglas Aall, Pollution Control Agency
Barbara Lukermann, Metropolitan �9aste Control Commission
Otto Bonestroo, City Engineer
Bruce Malkerson, City Attorney
. REGULAR I�4EETING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL, PSARCH 30, 1978 Page 41
Butler moved, r�assengale se,conded, to approve CLEANUP DAY
the date of Saturday, Psay 6, 1978 from 8: 00 A.tR, to May 6 , 1978
4 : 30 P.24, as Orono Spring Cleanup Day. P�otion,
Ayes (3) - i�iays (0) .
Massengale moved, Playor Z7an Nest seconded, to SALARY IPICREASE
approve a second-year step �alary increase for �aayne Shellum
Wayne Shellur.i, Orono Police Officer, to $1, 286 . 95
per month effective April 5 , 1978. PZotion,
Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
Dick Benson, City Administrator, presented to the CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS
City Council a meno from John R. Gerhardson, Hennepin County
Public Works Coordinator, concerning Capital
Improvement Projects - Hennepin County, dated
t�iarch 14, 1978, which states :
In the latter part of February, the City of
Orono received from Hennepin County the Capital
Ir.lprovement Projects for 1978.
At your request, I have reviewed the projects
that are of concern to the City of Orono. The
following is the list of projects in Orono and
my cor.uaents and suggestions :
Project iitle: CSAH 110 , CP 7002; Pg. 85 & 86;
Project No. 7002 :
Because the City of Orono is presently proposing
the ring route concept and working with Hennepin
County in regard to their future plans, and because
there has been discussion on this matter, it appears
to me that Hennepin County plans, as shown in the
above r.lentioned project, does not agree- with the
latest projections by Orono. This r.latter should be
researched further.
Project Title: Bridge Overlays and Redecking - 1978
Project nurtber: Various, Page 126:
Hennepin County lists several bridges throughout
the County for bridge overlays and redecking. In
that c�roup, two bridge projects are in Orono: Project
No. 7708, County Road 19 over Crystal Bay. On the
above date, I talked to A4r. Don Speilr.lan from Hennepin
County, as we have not received any information for
our review. Mr. Speilman stated that the inforrlation
is not yet available, but we should receive all
necessary information in approximately one month
to six weeks. (Continued)
, REGULAR IiEETING OF T1iE ORO*10 COUNCIL, P�IARCH 30, 1978 Page 42
Project I1o. 7702 : County Road 51 over Noerenberg CAPITAL IMPROVEM�NTS
� Channel : (Continued)
Al1 pertinent information has been received,
revie�ved and authorized by Orono City Council.
Project Title: Orono Maintenance Station - Page 132
This project is an addition to the present Hennepin
County maintenance station at 3880 Shoreline Drive
in Orono. Building and Zoning r,�ay want to research
this project further.
Mr. Howard P'Ieagher, 3980 Dahl Road, discussed with BIG ISLAND
the City Council Mr. Clifton French' s comments at
a Lake r�innetonka Association meeting on Orono' s
policies on conderination of land on Big Island.
Pdayor Van Nest moved, Butler seconded, to direct
the City Administrator to write to Mr. French re-
stating Orono' s policy on acquiring land on Big
Island as included in previous minutes, December 12,
1977, that the City of Orono is not inLerested in
seeing any of the land on Big Island conder.lned
for Park Reserve acquisition and would rather see
the Park Reserve purchase land and buildings as
they are put on the market by willing sellers.
P�otion, Ayes (3) - P7ays (0) .
Butler move�d, Massengale seconded, to reaffirm
Orono' s position on acquiring property on Big
Island by stating that: It is not Orono' s intent
to condemn property on Big Island for park and
recreational purposes but to encourage land to be
purchased on the open market when available and
according to an approved plan submitted by the
Hennepin County Park Reserve District. biotion,
Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
Mayor Van Nest announced that he and other Council- �
members and public arE invited to attend a meeting
at Excelsior, Twin City Federal Building at 7: 30 P.M. ,
April 4, 1978, to discuss the Big Island matter
with property owners on Big Island. This meeting
was arranged by the Big Island property owners.
Butler moved, P�ayor Van Nest seconded, to adopt RESOLUTION #893
Resolution #893, A Resolution To Designate Depositories
Additional City Depositories. Pdotion, Ayes (3) -
Nays (0) .
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Mayor Van Nest requested that the proposed OROPdO-LONG LAKE
resolution in regard to the City of Orono' s INTERCEPTOR PROPOSED
Cor��prehensive Sewer Plan, Syster:ls Statement, RESOLUTION
Cor.lPrehensive Land Use Plan and the Orono-Long
Lake sewer interceptor be filed for review at
a later date, if needed.
i4ayor Van Nest Moved, r4assengale seconded, to
file a proposed resolution in regard to the
City of Orono' s Comprehensive Sewer Plan, Syster.is
Stateraent, Comprehensive Land Use Plan and
the Orono-Long Lake sewer interceptor. Piotion,
Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
Dick Benson, City Administrator, inforried the City WASTE«ATER MANAGEMENT
Council that we are in receipt of a letter from PLAN - 208
John Boland, Metropolitan Council, dated March 3,
1978, which states:
"Enclosed is a copy of a Sur.unary Report On
Alternatives for 4�lastewater P4anagement.
The document summarizes and discusses the concerns
raised by the public and local officials at public
meetings held during October, 1977, as part of the
Council ' s 208 wastewater manac�er►ent planning program.
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In addition, the report contains information about
the assuriptions used to develop the alternatives,
the Council' s responses to the issues raised and
the alternatives selected for further study.
The selected alternatives will now be the subject
of further Council study, including economic
irlpact, affect on the social and physical environ-
ment and consistency with Council general policy.
Work on this should be completed and made available
for public review this spring..
The alternatives report is part of a Council planning
effort to update its wastewater management plan.
The end result will be the formulation of a new
Wastewater r�anagement Policy Plan chapter of the
Metropolitan Developrlent Guide, now scheduled for
cor.lpletion in �Iovember of this year. "
Dick Benson, City Aciministrator, �,nforr.ied' the LIQUOR STORE REPORT
City Council _that during the previous six months,
we have been reviewing the liquor store operation
very closely in light of a recomr.tendation from
Lorraine McGocaan, lic�uor store manager, to expand
the liquor operation. The proposal was to remodel
the store and rent the basement area now vacant
and increase storage and selling space, which would
allow us to increase sales and net profit. (Continued)
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4de reviewed projected cost to convert basernent, LIQUOR STORE REPORT
$10, 000; cost to remodel store $60 , 000, for a total (Continued)
o� $70 , 000, which does not include additional cost
for inventories, increase in payroll, insurance, etc.
We reviewed and projected an increase in sales of
aPproximately 250 or an additional $95, 700 in
sales for a total gross sales of 5478 , 400. Gross
profit of 28. 16 o and a net profit of 8. 35 0. [4e
used a ten year depreciation factor for the
remodeling cost. Projected as a total annual
expense projection.
As of December 31, 1978 , $40, 000 is invested from
the liquor fund, with $11, 000 cash on hand, and
in light of a projected $70, 000 capital outlay
cost and a $20, 000 inventory increase, it is
obvious that we could not recover additional costs
from the liquor fund itself and we would have to
look elsewhere for additional funds. �ae also have
to keep in mind that we are budgeting through our
revenue forecasts $35, 000 per year for transfers to
the general fund. Needless to say, �ahen reviewing
operation projections, the liquor fund will not
have the increase in net income needed for handling
the increased cost in inventories, repayment of
loans (principal and interest) and continue to
transfer funds to the general fund.
There is no question that the long-range net profit
projection would have to increase substantially
before an expansion in the liquor operation could
be considered a sound business investment.
Again, we held several r�eetings with staff and
Dick Keaveny, owner of the present building. ���e
adjusted our projected costs, or projected sales
and requested the owner to pay for all structural
costs to be quoted as a r.►onthly rent based upon a
five-year lease. We would still have to assume
some remodeling costs for the retail and storage .
areas.
After reviewing this arrangerient, the revised
yearly costs adjusted downward approximately
$2, 500 but the net profit did not change appreciatively
to cause any optomistic outlook on increasing our
present revenues.
In view of the declining trend in net profits in
the liquor business and the obvious cash require-
ment to put this package together, while considering
available floor space, parking space, traffic
patterns, and the cost of money today, I recommend
we not expand our liquor operation at this tir�e and
continue to rionitor the operation as it exists in
its present location. I feel that based upon our
experience with the liquor operation and an apparent
declining net profit with gross sales tending to increase,
(Continued)
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it has to be recognized that the cost to r�erchandis- LIQUOR STORE OPERATION
ing liquor is on the rise because of, in our case, (Continued)
increased costs in rent and insurance which we
cannot control. Lorraine has done a trer.lendous .
job in controlling labor costs which she has
reduced substantially throughout the past year.
rZayor Van Nest moved, P4assengale seconded, to
approve the City Adr.iinistrator' s recommendation
concerning the liquor store operation, as stated
above. P�otion, Ayes (3) - PJays (0) .
Dick Benson, City Administrator, informed the LONG LAKE WATER RATES
City Council that on Februanl 16 , 1978, the Long
La}:e City Council held a meeting to discuss
proposed changes in the water and sewer service
agreer�ent with Long Lake and the City of Orono.
The Council did agree to gropose that the City of
Orono maintain, operate, and assume utility costs
to operate the pumpinc� station located in Long
Lake. This issue did cor.le to us in 1968, after
the station was put into servi�ce and a dispute
follo�ved on who was to assurie these obligations,
which was not resolved until 1971, when at that
tir.►e, the City of Long Lake did assume the
responsibliity of paying all utility and maintenance
costs to this date.
I have reviewed the files on this matter and have
asked Bruce Malkerson to review the data with Mr. G.
Marc Whitehead, who was the City attorney at that
time. As can be interpreted from the February 16,
1978 rtinutes, this is all leading up to granting
a reduction in water rates to our industrial and
school area, which we apparently will not be -
addressing ourselves to at this time_
With Council concurrence on this matter, I �vill
state our position to the City of Long Lake and
request a meeting with them if they so choose.
Mayor Van Nest moved, Psassengale seconded, to
approve the City Aclr►inistrator' s recommendation
regarding �ong Lake water rates, per the above
memo. Motion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
Mayor Van Nest announced a public hearing is PUBLIC HEARING DATE
scheduled for April 13, 1978 at 7: 00 P.M. Rezoning
concering rezoning at 2060 & 2160 47ayzata
Boulevard.
Mayor Van Nest announced a public hearing is PUBLIC HEARING DATE
scheduled for April 13, 1978 at 7: 15 P.r4. On-Site Disposal
concerning on-site disposal ordinance.
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Dick Benson, City Administrator, informed the EMPLOYNIENT - LIQUOR
City Council that Larry Kingelhoets, part-time John Thompson
ernployee at the Orono Liquor Store, will be
leaving April 2, 1978. I would like to hire
John Thompson to replace him. His application
has been approved by the Police Department, and
he is well qualified to work in our store.
Due to his experience and qualifications, I would
like to have him start at $3. 00 per hour, e�fective
March 27, 1978.
Butler moved, P4assengale seconded, to erlploy
John Thompson for part-time help at the Orono
Liquor Store at a starting rate of $3. 00 per
hour, effective P�arch 27, 1978. Motion,
Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
Butler moved, t4assengale seconded, to approve LICENSE
the following license: Motion, Ayes (3) -
Nays {0) .
On-Sale 3. 2 Beer License - Orono Golf Course
Mayor Van Nest moved, Massengale seconded, that BILLS
the All Funds Accounts 2052 through 2092 , 19708
through 19715, 6369 through 6409 , 10876 through
10878 and Liquor Store Accounts 12432 through
12455, be paid. P4otion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
Mayor Van Nest moved, Butler seconded, that the ADJOURIVMENT
meeting be adjourned at 11: 45 P.Ds. Motion,
Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
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William B. Van Nest, Mayor
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Attest: � ( ��� � a�,�
Walter R. e s , Clerk-Administrator