HomeMy WebLinkAbout04-25-1977 Council Minutes • , .
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A���-il 25 , 1977
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• �_ 0�-��no Cou-?�il m�t on tne abov� d.=. _e w�_th
�.' = follos,vi.ng r?en�}>;�rs pres2nt: A4a� or Van Nesf�,
� Councilrn�mbers Butler and Welsh. Absent: Council-
mertbers Massengale and Paurus . A1so present: City
� Ac:T-�ini_strator B2nson, BLilding & Zon�_ng Administrator
`�?uhich, Assistant Building & Zoning Administrator
� O1_son, City Attor.�,ey t7alkerson, and City Engineer
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� of P-larc:i 28, 19 I"I , as ar:�-�d��c. P�Ioriorl, Ay�-�s (3) - Marc�-i 28 , 19�7
Nai✓s (0) .
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� Butler moved, Welsh seconded, to approve the MINUTES
� :"n;-nu�es of the Regular rleeting of Apri1 11, 1977 , Apri1 11, 1977
as a-; .-.:.,:,,„a. P�of�i.on, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
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� Y�r;< Comnission Chairman Walter Lathrop inLroduced APPOIN1NIEVT
r1r. Lee E. Tomlinson, 2425 Map1e Lane, Long Lake, Park Cormmission
� as the ne��� Park Com.mission me:-io�r repLacing P�r.
D„�,�.;�ath Pe��_;1_�,�.
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� . =1�Or �/dP �'..`:��. Ii?OV:':"'i� �'J��_SCl Sc'�';11�?;c=l� t0 dL�C��Ji_?1�_ L�E?� F:. �'G�:1�_1I1;.', �
i�Ir. Lee E,. Tom�i nson, 24�� M,,�le Lane, Long Lak� ,
to the Park Coi��r�iss;on to fi]_1 the unexp�_red ter�t
o�= Du-�we�.t'n Peasley, which expires December 31, 1978 .
• r1o�_ion, Ayes (3) - rlays (0) .
e No co�:��._r��s fr_om the Huria� Rig'rits Cor���i_ssi.on. HUN'AN RIGH�+'S COs�i�i'IISSION
• No cc,� �;.�_� fr_'or� tn�_' Pl���_� i_ric, Co!t �.i_5;� ort. PLArT�1Ir1G COL�L�rISS�ON
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�',:�. B.ruce Nla�k�rsor�� City At�.orr<<'Y� infoY'itied th�� IVV LA.T1E PLTI'I'10N
� C�_ty Council that Mr. Lt.t�er, aT�torr��>� represe-��ing
L' = L tior��rs for Iv• L�n� ha� s�.�Lec? �
_,�., P'=� �- ' y '. � _ ' that hE_
� _�nr. hi_s clien�s cauld not� be av�il a�,l � for topigf�'�' s
• Counci_1. m:�:��ting ar�d requ�sted that thF� Ivy Lz.ne
�`titi.on be tablec�. until May 9 , 1977 at 7: 00 P.'��.
� `�`�. r?alkerson, al.so stated that he re.�iinc'�=�d NIr,
�,��Lr:er thar the City Council a�, their. Niarcn 28 , 1977
� Cnuncil m�:�Ling ir_forn�ed a11_ the pF��Zti0i1�'r_s ,
including P�r. Luther, that tnis m�tter would be
� n��:rd tonight,
n:fdy'�i Van �IZS� ItlOVEC�� BU'le� StCOf!CiF'C�� t0 tdD�2
�e Ivy Lane peci�i_on unTil the Council me�ting
of P�ay 9 , 1977, at 7 : 00 P . :�I.
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,'R��GUi��_? I�i:',:,`�':i:��G 0�-' �1'�{r; OR'��:�� COi_i'dCli� AL'?IL 25 , 1_9%7 _.
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Mr. Alan 01son, Assistant Building & Zoning Adr�in- 1977 Marina License�
istrator, presented a status report to the Ci_ty
�uncil concerning marina li.censing, which states :
February 2 , 1977
Refer to individual marina memos for detailed
� information and corlpl_iar:ce performance.
� Recap as of February l, 1977.
� :�11 1976 licenses issued.
� 1977 applications received, mer,o prep��_�-ed•
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Foxhill Hom��owner' s Association
Minnetonka Power Squadron
Wayzata Yacht Club
� North Shore Union 76
North Star Marina
� Pau1' s Landing
6V�ndT,tia�-d rTarinz
`Sinnetonka Boat LJorks
� S�ubbs Bay Marina
+ 1977 aopl.i.cations expected:
���. _.h S�o _,, Dr_ �.v� Ni.���_n� (ow-��_ Lar�y fTo�--� ca7_7_��'
:�uary 21, 19%% to say that personal i1lne�s had
� d-�� �yed h;_s application and that he was noi-1
� p� �;���_-�-'d.i_ng� with it. }
� G-_y°)_��_s Tta�.ina (no ans;�.-�r. to rep�ac-�d calls) .
Planning Commissi�n P�Ieeting - Februar_y 7, 1977
� Rvcon_nended the preparation of resoluLions as was
� done in 1975 , to be agreed upo� by the Ci.ty
�.�,� th� m�r_ ina operators prior to licensing and
� t.c� s�_�:-;_fy exi�ected perFor.�nance. duri.ng th� thi_r.d
, y��ar of the fo�r year im�:r-ov���r.,-���t: p�o�ra-:.-
• 1 9 7�i apolica�iori s�a��us : .
• ��_,r.��.��� Sno�e Drive b4aYina apolicati.on receivGd
:'�.bru--:�-y 4 , 1977
� �t.aff unable to contact Gayles i�larina
�t_:afi - March 31 , 1977
� i?._;cei.ved 1977 license application for Gayles Marina.
"' � l�. - Apr_ il 20 , 1977
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r._c��: _.�.��nd Council action to issue joinc dock us�
1 '_ _'-'.:'152S t0 FOX�'71��, Minneto�ka Pow�er SGill?dY'On�
--�:c Wayzat� Yacht Club . Se��c Ccu_�c; 1 d; r-,c_;_-,r�,
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Welsh moved, Butler seconded, to approve the 1977 MARINA LIC�.NSES
1977 marina licenses for the following: (Continued)
Foxhill Homeowner' s Association
Minnetor�ka Pow�r Squadron
Wayzata Yachc C1_ub
� Motion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
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`^_--�. Gre, Frank, City Enci ne�r, co�r��.�nted that in
reviewing the balance of the marinas thaL are
included in the applications for 1977 licePs�� , it
should be noted that based on prelim�nary inspections,
S particularly North Star b4arina, it appears that
Orono' s setback ordinance is effective in controlling
erosion fro�n sLor�-�water runofr wh���n pervious
cover materials are us�d.
Mayor Van Nest corunented that in many instances ,
marinas are over-using the land and excessive
erosi_on is having a detrimental effect on the lake.
Mayor Van Nest rnoved, Welsh secor�ded, to insLruct
i the City Eng?neer and staif to review the remaining
marinas for compliance to zoning and licensi_ng
cor,dit.ions and attem�t to resolve as outlined in
past res�luti_ons and to draft a new resolu�ion
outl_ining conditions to be met to be revie�Ved by
alJ. m��.�ina own;-ra . Motion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
H�;�ry 1�4uhicn, Bui_lding & Zoninc� Adriinistrator, read VARIANCE
! into the Minutes the following info rnation, da�ed 140 Cygnet Place
Nlarch 16 , 1977 : �241
Lou War�en
Mr. Lou Warden, 140 Cygnet Place, is requesting
appr.oval of a lot ar.ea and width variance to use
the above parcel as a bu�ldi_ng site. The realtor
subrlitting the proposal in`orm�d ne that tnis lot
cou]_d not be expanded as the proper�cies on either
side already contained a house. H� failed to inform
m.� that the owner of the sui�ject I�ot 2 lives on the
adjacent Lo� l. Under .these cond�tions, it would
be fea.sibl e th�� the two lots be co.zn.�� i ned as on-� �
p�.�ce1. .
On May 27 , 1976, we issued a building per���t for
a residence at 240 Cygnet Place, The apolicant
w�.s requested to combine Locs 6 & 7 as one parcel
ar�d com_plied. I have enclosed a copy of this
, application for cortbinat?on.
P�_=.nr�ing Co��.=T?ission P�I��Li_n,, -- ��Ia�cn 21, 1977
� Tr;or'.�c Session item. The Co��-:_�.ssi.o� felt t'_zar t�-,e
conditior?s oL this apolic�tion w�re similar to
L'nose at 180'S Shad_vwood Road (#238) - 2 adjace:��,
substa�d�rd parcels urd��r on� ow�a�snip. (Conti_nu_a;
� � ��.GC�+�I=•'. N1:��;TI2�C'j 01-' li,c; OR�`,u Cu�����+ �:� A?�:� �� 25 , 197 i Pag�_ 4
Planning C�mr.ii.ssion Nleeting - April 4 , 1977 VART_A�CF
140 Cygnet Place
Recor•._-��nded denial. Jus�_i_f i_c�;:� o��,s : (Continund)
? Lo�s 1 & 2 in cot-:�:o_, ��.,-,-,--, :�`,_ � :�.
` 2 , A=ea is na� se:rerec� nor is it p_1.an.�ed to be
sewered in the Comprehensive S�wer Plan.
Increasing density would only add to the problem.
3. Ttiere has been some indication that e�isLing
septic sv�teR:s in tne area are not opeYatina
pro�er7_y.
4 . Lots 1 & 2 are ex�remzly substanda�d as
individual building sites; even if comi�ined,
tney lack the necessary 87 ,120 sq, ft.
5 . Sugges�ed co�.bi.n,+=ion of the two pa.rcels.
Cou�-:cil M��'ti-.',; - April 11, 197%
Der:i.ed var.iance based on fi_ndi,,gs of the Planni�g
Co�-r.��.i_ssion, Directed staff to pr_epare a resolution
of de�ial .
Council MeE�in, - April 25 � 197�
H�nry P�Suhich also inf_orned the City Council that
� hr was made a�aare of the fact that Mr. Warden
rad sold the subs�a*�dard 1oc for $8, 500 .
Nlayor Van Nes` moven, Welsh s�conde�, to adoo�� Rl�'SO��U�i'lO�v �771
Resol_ution �771, as a:�er.,ded, P_ R��Sol.ution Denying 140 Cygnet Pl.ace
Lo� Art�a Variance Ar._d I,ot Width Variance F'or.
Property Located At 140 Cygriet Place , I�o7. 2 ,
B1ock #3, Swan Lake Addi�ion. Moti.an, Ayes (3) -
tv�1.r:� (0) .
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�ti�= ,:���S , LoL� 4�==�'- ri is the o,ar-c._r_ of prop��r�y
lo�at�ed at 140 Cygr.et Place , Orono, Minneso�a,
(also known as Lot 2) , and has ap�lied for lot
area and lot wid�h va.ri_�nc��s , and
W_+��itr.AS, tne Planning Co���_,.�_s:i_o:� review?d th�
s appl icaLio� for_ th� two vaY-iar,ces anci have
r<�corr�a�r�nded denial of sa��p, and
Wtir.'R�,F�S, the City staf.r has reviewed the application
for two varianr�es and has recoz����nded denial of_
sa.r:C, and
�vHEKEAS, the City Council has reviewed the Planning�
Cor�_niss;_on recommendation, the City staff reconunen-
d:��ion and the cor��:��=n�s relared ther_eto by Mr. Warden
r��� City staff at a Counc�_1 me�ting of. April 11 , 1977 ,
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(COR�iL].11E'd)
� � R4,GliLAR Dir:�:'i'+:�iG OF 1HE OROC�IO COUNCIL, APRIL 25, 1977 Page 5
` WHEP.EAS, the City Council conceptually denied the RESOLUTION #771
apolication on April 11, 1977, and requested staff 140 Cygnet Place
to set for�:h the reason for the deni.al stated by (Continued)
the Courlcil for subsec�uent Cour_cil review and
ratification.
` NOL�, THEREFORE, the City Council has revie�rred the
Planning Commission recom�n�ndation, the City staif
recoms�endation and the com�zerits related thereto by
Mr. tVarde,z and City s_ar� at a Council me��ting of
Apri1 11 , 1977 ,
i WHEREAS, City Council has review�d this reso?ution
to determine its accuracy,
��04��, TfiEP�;c'OR�., the City Courici_1_ of tne City o=
s Orono denies the ap�li.caLior� for lot area ard lot
width variances based upon the following findings
of fact:
l . The realtor submit�ing the appl_ication on behalf ,
o` �1�. Warden for. vari�nces mis�epresented tne facts
ot the matter w�.en he stated that Lo� 2 could not
` be ex�andea as the prooerty either side a7_ready
coritai_ned a house , neither of which was owned by
the owner of Lot 2 .
2 , t�7r_ . W�.-rd.-�n oums Loi� 2. and lives in and o�•.�s a
hous=� thar is on the adjacent Lo�. l .
3 . Lor�s 1 & 2 are therefore presently in co���on
oc•,-_��_.�-s��ip and h�cre been in comnon own�rship since
th� enac�nt�n` of the curre��; zoning or.dinances .
' 4 . This area oi the City is not sEwered nor_ does
s the City pl.an to sewer. this area. in the fores�eable
fut_ur.e u�der the Coitrorehensive Se���r_ Plan. Tnere-
S foce, ar_y sewer sysiert must be an on-site septic
system. The.r_e al.ready are existing pollution
pr�ob).ems because oi on-site sept.ic systems in the
�� _:a where Lo� 2 is locaLed. Increasing the density
� ;_�.�.. thE� area w�t:ld on J_y add to thase proolems .
'� 5s The current zoning oz this distric� requ;res
a mi_nim�..Lni loL ar_ea of. 2. acres (87, 12.0 sq, ft. ) and
a mini�nu:r. lot width of 200 fee�.
i 6 . The subject lo� is now zoned RR--lE.
7 . Both Lots 1 & 2 , as individual sites, lack th��
required 2 acre ar.ea and 200 ' lot width,
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� 8 . Lot 1 is presentl.y an extrer�ely substandard lot RESOLUTIOrI #771
! and Lot 2 is an extrernely substandard lot in that 140 Cygnet Place
both are less than one acre in size and the minimurl (Continued)
� lot size in this district is two acres. Even if
these Lots 1 & 2 were combine3, they sti11 would
� r�:�r�scnt a substandard lot. Property Lot 2 was
so':_r by Lou Warden on April 10 , 1977 .
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9 . �l'hese lots are locat=,d in a subc.;�:tr�r_s�ed that
� d�:�i_n5 into the creek whicn leads to Stubn ' s Bay
• ot Lake 2=�inr_etonka which is presently polluted
because of the effluent from existing on-site
C septic systems.
� 10 . The Metro�olitan Council, P�tetropol�_t�n LVaste
Control CorrLmission, Pol.lution Control Agency and
� the Dep�rtment of Natura� R�sc�urces require at
` least two acre lots , if not larger, for all on-
site septic systems.
e 11. The City in the recent past has required the
� cc����nation of other substandard locs such as thesz
in tPe aYea. As recently as P•'Iay 27, 1976 , individual
� building sites were denie3 on LoLs 6 & 7 of B1ocn 3
in the Swan Lake Addition.
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� 12 . The g_anzing of lot area and width variances
i r, th i.s i_r�s�anc� woui.d be adverse to the health,
� s`_recy and welfare o�= the citizens of Orono, and
contrary to Ch�pi:er. 31. 200 et. seq. of the Orono
� Muni_cipal Codr .
� 13. The appli_cant has failed to si�.ocv any uniq�;�
hardshi_p to justify a varianc�. TnE-r.e are oi�r��r.
� subs�_andard lots in the area over_ which the City
� has forced combination in the pas�. Since thesz
lots are presently owr�ed by the sa_�.e individual_
� or. have been owned by the sam=, individ"a.1 in the
past, during whi.ch time Chapter 31. 200 et. seq.
� or provisions similar thereto were in effect,
Chap�er 31 . 200 rec�ui.res that no bui.ldi ng perm�.t
b:� issu�d for Lot 2 .
r _l_4 . It is possibl� that the ap��1_ican� can purchase
A o�vher pro�erty to the rear of this property to add
to these locs and to make the�;� conforming with the
� Zoning Code.
�` 15 . The soil typ�s in this area are such tnaL there
must be at least two acre minimuns for on-site sep�ic
� systens .
16 . The application for variances should be de�i�d
�in order to prevent the crea�ion of a public harm.
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� REGULAR Tir'ET1NG OF TiiE OP.OtiO COUNCTL APRIL 25, 1977 Pa;F' 7
� 17. These two lots are not being taxed as separate RESOLUTION ff771
lots but are taxed as though they were one buildable 140 Cygnet P1ace
t� lot even though there are two separate tax statements. (Continued)
� 18 . This resolution set forth accurately the findings
�� of fact made by the City Council at the April 11, 1977
I[lE_'.r'L 1I1�.
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Mot�_on, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
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A Henry Muhich, Building & Zoning Administrator, VARIANCE
` read into tne Minutes the following: 1865 Shadywood Road
#238
i �aarren Ortenblad, 1865 Shadywood Road, is reques�.- Warren Ortenblad
ing a lot width variar_ce on Trac� E or RLS 624.
� The area is zoned for parcels of 1/2 acre area
. (21, 780 sq. ft. ) - 140 ' lot width. This lot
exceeds the required area (22, 500 sq, ft. ) , but
,� lacks the required width as it is only 90 ' wide.
Abcut 13 ,000 sq. ft. is dry land, but the prooerty
` is sewer.ed.
r My concern here is not the subject lot, but the
property next door (Parcel 810) . This parcel
is already occupied by a house and it is only 87 '
. wi.de and has an area of about 8 , 719 sq, ft.
. The tax records indicate that both parcels (Tract
E and Parcel 810) are owned by the D & J Corporation.
� Parcel 810 , however, is homes�eaded by a Glenn R.
Ti1lo�son. This might b� through a contract for
� deed. I would be a great improv�nent if we could
some way cor:bine these two parcels to achieve a
� more coriformir.g situation.
� Planning Commission Nieeting - March 21 , 1977
� Work Session item. Planning Cor�mission was concerned
A ahouL ownership of abutting pY'ooetty. InsLructed
Zoni.ng Adr�,inistrator to investigate this matter.
Staff - b1a�-ch 22 , 1977 `,-
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� Enclosed is a cooy of the local tax records regard-
i.ng the prop�rt�y which indicates A. T. Br_eitbarth
� as owner of both properties and D. J, Corporation
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as taxpayer of both properties ,
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P�_��,-�_;_nc� Commi_ssior. Nlee�.ing - April 4 , 19%7
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� DF�r�.�_-_� b����.ci on the i ollowi_r_g :
� l . P�oth lots were under one co��on owner in 19b5 ,
January l, 1975 , and record�d a� suc� in t���
� 1977 tax records.
� . LOt" containing exis�l??Q �10�.1�2 i S �u:r��r'.-="�-i St1"%—
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� R��li�.'�� NIEE1'I�;G OF' 'I'fi�: Ox0��0 COu�1CIL APYT_L 25, 1977 Pag� 8
� 3 . Two lots combined consist of approximately 1/2 VARIANCE
acre of dry land. 1865 Shadywood Road
�4 . Would be setting precedent for similar proposals (Continued)
� alor_g shorelines and marshes.
(� R:quested confirmation of speczal assessment status .
� If an error was made in assessing two units at the
A time of the project, the applicant shoul_d requ�st
��r wai_ver of one uniL.
� Co�_2nc i1 Act�on - April 11, 1977
� Mr. Ri_c�,ar_d C1_ayborne, P�r. Ortenblad' s manager,
� requested the Council to table this agenda item
until the Council meeting of April 25 , 1977.
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Welsh mov�d, Paurus seconded, to table this agenda
y item until the April 25, 1977 Council meeting at
;� the request of the applicant. P�Iotion, Ayes (5) -
N_Is (0) .
• Co�ncil Mee`ing - April 25 , 1977
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Mr. P�tuhich stated that this request was tabled
� at the April 11, 1977, Council meeting at the
• request of the applicant to a llow a representative
to be present,
� Mayor Van Nest cora-�ented that if the City Council_
� should grant this request, the City would be
setting a precedent for similar pr.oposals for
� substandard lots (9 , 000 sq, ft. ) .
� Nir. Gary Phleger, representing P4r. Bangs , owner,
• Mr. Ortenblad is the builde�, presented to Council
a Resigtered Land Survey (year 1965) comrienting
� th=� the lot in question was in common ownership
in 1908, that the substandard lot, 9 ,000 ft. ,was sold
� in 1909 , that Mr. Bangs retained Tract E of the RLS ,
and that the lot was assess.�d for ser��er and water.
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• Mzyor Van Nest cor�rr._�ni ed that the assessm�nts
w�re in error and thac the loT: does not m�e;:
` zoning rtquirements. You sold off the substandard
lot when bo�h were in corL��on �c•,nership by y�u at
� that time. You sold the hous_ and the front yard.
There are many substandard lots in Orono that do
'� not meet zoning requirem�nts and should either be
combined to meet standards or be denied and abate
� the assessments. Mayor Van Nest reviewed the
• '�?�.nnesota Deoart�.,ent of Natural Resources R�gulations
relating to standards and criteria for the managemen�
�of- Municipa.l Shoreland Areas, which state : (Continued)
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* 2�;:ULAR riEETING OF THE O�ONO COUNCIL ADRIL 25, 1977 Page 9
� (dd) Substandard Lots : Lots of record in the VA�pIANCE
office of the County Register of Deeds on the date 1865 Shadywood Road
� �� enactment of the P-Z�nicipal Shoreland Ordinance (Continued)
• N:�ich do not meet the requirements of NR 83 (c) (1)
(aa) through (dd) may be al_lowed as buildzng sites
� provided such use is per�itted in the zoning
district, the lot is in separate ownership from
i abutting lands and sanitary and dimensional require-
ments of the snoreland ordinance are complied
f; with insofar as practicable. Each municipal
ordinance may, consistenL with these standards
�� and criteria, set a minimum size for substandard
� lots or impose other restrictions on the develop-
ment of substandard lots, includinr the prohibition
*, of deve].opment until tne substandard lot (s) are
served by pui�lic sewer and water.
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Mayor Van Nest moved, Butler seconded, to table
� tne request for a variance of Warren Ortenblad,
1865 Shadywood Road, until May 9 , 1977 , to allow
� s:aff review of assessed values and ass2ssments.
� Mo�ion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
� vo=e: P�ir. Phleger agreed that the matter should
be tabled to obtain furLher infor_ma�ion.
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� ea� in�o tne re�:ord the following, dated 3324 Nor�h Shore Drive
April 11, 1977, concerning the riprao request #242
! of North S�ar biarina, 3324 Nor.th Shore Dr.ive : Paul Kempf
� Denied dredging. Indi_ca=ed they wo�tl.d approve
rip.r.ap pr.otection of shoreline against erosion.
Dr_edgi_ng for riprap would be limited only to
• that necessary for base and stabilization of
riprap.
� Applicant stated he was not inLerested in
� riprap only. He felt the proposal should b�
addr.essed to as one si.ngle project,
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Co>>ncil reconsider.ed, Di:r�cL.ed City Enginee_r
� to reviefr the pr.ono�s�.l an�i s��r� ��.:.t written
• co;,-,:�=r��s on the m=at_����r be_ore t.he next meeting.
� Co�,�_=:i.1 I�1_�.::L.ing - A;;�il 25 , 1977
� M��-, Paul Kernpf commented that North Star P�arina
w?11 not consider riprapping and dredging in
� two parts. North Star wants this to be considered
� a - a total project.
�or Van Nest commented that in this case,
i i ur_apoing can be accomplis;�ed fro:�l la.nci and not
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r Greg Frank, City Engine:�r : That' s cor_recL and NORTh STAR MARINA
les� exp�nsive. 3324 North Shore Drive
(Continued)
• a�_>>_ Ke�_�pf: Yes , it cari b�• , at our location, but
drzdging or riprapping is not detrimental to tne
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�:�e.
` �I:�yor Van Nest: Dredging is not detrimental to
t.�e lake??
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` P�ui K.empL : Tha�-_ ' s tru^. Nuyrier.ts sno�ld be
r�:��.o��_', so �s no��-. co '���p them in suspension.
� Ma1�or- V"an Nes�_: Tr�e Council has to consider other_
� opL;ons tnan c_r�a�_ing further �amage to the lake
by excava�ing the total lakeshore and creating
� more dockage and slips , mhis would be conLrary
to City policies to protect Lake Minnetonka and
'S would be setting a very serious and environmenLal
,
unsound precedent.
. �j1._�.yor Van Nest to Paul Kempr: Would all boats
h:�v�: to be taken out of the lake and put back in?
�
P_��_i�_ Kempf : Yes. W� are atte:�aL�_ng to stabilize
♦ t'��.�_ 1a'_� bo�_�vr-- a�? s'�or�7_i_n: a�_ the s�. __ ti.n._�.
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• ��_� �1 1 ow°^d the sari� thin�, �i�his wo��1d rui-� �,a.:e
M�nnetonka ar.d cause a very serious econonic
� burden on the taxpayers who now are over-burdened
with taxes.
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Mayor Van Nest: How do you stabilize the lake
�� botto��_ by dredging?
t' Pa�_i1. K��_:�_��f: Prevent erosion and remove existing
� si.lt.
� Gr_eg Frank, City Engineer, stated that the best
n�.c,�hods to prevent siltation to Lake Nlinnetonka
• i.s poridir�g, sodding, or ber�s and rip-r.apping,
f{��.:-�dcover wi11 only add to existing runoff
� p�ob]_ems and in tnis par-ticul_ar si_tuati_on, wc�uld
! ef.fect the prooer�ies contiguous to North Star.
In this particular situation, the property would
� have to be graded to prevent serious d�rtag� to
ahu�ting property owners.
�
B�_sce Malkerson, City Attorney, ask2d Greg Frank
� if he had an opportunity to thoroughly review
� all da�� and the letter dated. Apr�l 20 , 1977 from
�'Vortn Star Marina concerning erosion and dredging.
��-�g Frank: No, not at this time .
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� Mayor Van Nest to Paul Kempf: You have stated NORTH STAR MARINA
a�_ previous meetings that your docks are out (Continued)
�CO ' and the Lake Niinnetonka Conservation District
. r_�_�gulations are 200 ' . Are you attempting to cut
yo��r docks back to 200 ' ?
� Paul Kempf : We feel we are grandfathered in and
* we are not going to remove 100 ' of dock.
� �r��or Van Nes� moved, Welsh seconded, to table
• t��e request for North Star Marina until the
regular meeting of May 9, 1977 to allow time
� for staff to contact Mr. Herb Senft, PhD
candidate , Aquatic Ech.ology, preparing his thesis
� on Phytoolankton; Dr. HerberL Wright , Environmental-
ist and Limnologis�, University of r•iinnesora;
w Dr. Josepn Shapiro, Limnolo�ical Geology, U of M;
Dr. Olaf pfannkuch, Hydro Geology (Ground �aater) ,
� U of M for their comme:�ts on this partic�lar
. matter and also to review dredging requirements
a-�d to determine if the existing water level is
. ac'��quate for riparian land owners, and, what would
b�� the detrimental effects of dredging on Lake
� Minnetonka. This review wi11 also address its�lf
to rit�raoping, grad;_ng, and dredging requirements
� c, _ ���Z'Li'1 S���r L'.crlrld. NIOT�]_OTI � Ayes (3) - Nays ��� .
�- ���',�y 1�1'�_�:'�. i_c��� B��i i ui rl,; & Zo�_ tng A�nini.stra�.or� SUBDI.VISIODI
� rr�ad into the record the following: 2732 Caroline Ave:iuG
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� Mr, Bruce Kobs, 2732 Caroline Avenue, is the Bruce Kobs
� owner of Lots 2 & 3 of Carmaz's Bay Additior.. '
Each lot now exceeds the min_Lmum lot area and
� wi_dth requirements.
� Ne is now requesting approval for a lot rearrange-
ment. The new proposal. does not incr.ease the
� numbr�r of lots. It only reduces the size of
one lot and increases the other. The smaller
� lot would sLil1 meet the requirEd 1/2 acre area
• a-�d. 100 ' loc width requirerlents . The larger
parcel is abouL 57,000 sq. ft, in area and exceeds
� the 1.00 ' loz width. Thi.s second parcel is
actually large enough to split again at so�t�e
� future date, However, if this were to occur,
a��,:l_;_ti_o��al utility asst-�-;;r.�:,nts an�' p��_r_'� f��.s wo���_d
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,� to a park dedicati.on fee of $2 ,000 for the two
l.ots, $1,000 for Tract A and $1,000 for Tract B.
� T:ne cur-rent raw land value of the two lo�s is
48, 000.
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A public hearing will have to be held for this
` pr000sal .
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� Planning Commission P�eetinr - Marcn 21, 1977 SUBUIVISION
� A public hearing was scheduled for April 18, 2�32 Caroline Avenue
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1977 at 7: 30 P,M. (Continued)
� Planning Commission Meeting - April 18 , 1977
� The Planning Commission recommended prelimznary
aoproval on the basis that the subdivision meets
� all the necessary requirements and with the
, unders�anding that if the bigger lot was divided
again, only the lakeshore lot would have access.
� Subject to park dedication fee.
� Staff - Apr_i1 20 , 1977
� Enctosed is a cooy of report received from City
Engineer.
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. Council Meeting - Apri1 25 , 1977
� Butler moved, Welsh seconded, to approve the
preliminary subdivision for Bruce Kobs, 2732
« Caroline Avenue, subjec� to :
r► l. Park dedication fee being paid.
2 . Larqer parcel to re�r�ain as one parcel.
� 3 . Of�=-shore lot wi11 not have access to lak�.
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��'o�ion, Ayes {3) - N�ys (0) .
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� Nenry Muhich, Building & Zoning Adminis�rator, SUBDIVISION
read into the recor�.' the following, dated 140 Brown Road South
� M�--ch 31 , 1977 #243
i James Kallestad
NIr-. Ju�-�� Kallestad, 140 Brown Road South,
� is requ�s�i_ng to divide parcel exceeding
6 acres into two lots , both of which would
� exceed the 2-acre minimum area. The sq, ft.
areas are nor indicated on the plan.
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� The proposal inclu.des the pro��osed locaLi_on
o� the- main structure and two accessory structures.
� Tne location for the propos^d tennis court is
only 30 ' from the north lot line, which runs
� z.djacent to the privaLe access road to the V�n
Eeci�hout property. This access might at some
� time in the future become a public raa:d to other
parcels resulting from future subdivisions.
� Our ordinance requires a 50 ' setback from the
+ road so the proposed loca�i_on of the tennis court
would require a 20 ' setback variance.
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� A public hearing has been scheduled for April 18 , SUBDIVISIO� & VARIANCE
1977 at 7 : 45 P.M. A park dedication fee of_ 140 Brown Road South
�$�00 ($250/lot) would be forthcoming if the (Continued)
� s:�bdivision is approved.
� Copies of the proposal have been forwarded
to the Hennepin County Public Works Department,
� MCWD, DNR, Police Department, City Public
Works Department, Finance Depar.tment, City
� Engineer, and City Attorney for com�ments,
� Pu:.>l;c H_aring - Ap,-il 18 , 1977
� Recommended approval of the preliminary p1aT,
* subject to the following:
� l. 10 ' easement across the north boundary of
* the property to provide for utilities and
adequate width for a 50 ' wide access in the
� event of more dense development of the
property to the east.
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2 . Park dedication fee being paid ($250/lot) .
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3. Aporoval of a 20 ' variance from the 50 '
� street setback requirement for the proposed
location of the tennis court.
�:_�>>>tifications : ,
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�, 1.. Tennis court is more of a temporary nature
than a dwelling.
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2. Contour of the land prohibits mosz other
� locations ,
� St�+.`f - April 20, 1977
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Enclosed is a copy of report from City Engineer,
� Also enclosed is a letter f rom County Engineer with
recorunendations for additional easements , right
� or� way approval, and drainage plans.
� Council MeeLing - April 25 , 1977
� �ti'=�lsh moved, Butler seconded, to approve the
� preliminary subd�vision and variance rec�uest
of James Kallestad, 140 Brown Road South, per the
i P1_anning Cornrizission P�Iinutes oi Apr_il 18 , 1977.
` Mo�ion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
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. RE;GliLAR MEETING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL APRIL 25 , 1977 Page 17
� Henry Muhich, Building & Zoning Adminzstrator, SUBDIVISION
read into the record the following Pages 18 & 19 : 500 North Arm Drive
�ouncil Meeting - April 25 , 1977 #200
Victoria Grain Company
� Present: Robert Cargill and John Hacking, represent-
ing Victoria Grain Company; Robert Brown, represent-
� ing LMCD as their Chairman of the Environmental
• Committee.
Mayor Van Nest reviewed the original proposal.
� John Hacking commented that originally the intent
� was to plat land and not address ourselves to
marshland, considering:
� l. Conservation easement.
� 2 . Reserve right to construct dock 6 ' wide to
channel.
! Mayor Van Nest to Mr. Hacking: Was not your
� original request to develop Lots 1-6, with an
Outlot A?
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Mr. Hacking: Yes .
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. Mayor Van Nest: In reviewing the Planning
Commission Minutes of April 18, 1977 recommenda-
� tions 1-4 :
l . Conservation easement over the wetlands with
� provisions for providing access to the lake
� for the riparian owners. Is that all righ�?
Mr. Hacking: Yes.
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! 2. This access would be limited to one com.�on
dock for all proper�y owners with a 6 ' wide
� dock to navigable waters. Is that a11 right?
, Mr. Hacking: Yes.
� Mr. Hacking handed a rough draft of a pr000s�d
ease:�.ent to Mr. Malkerson for his review.
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Ni_r, Don Schultzman, representing property owners
� contiguous to the proposed developr�lent� asked the
City Council if they intended to approve the
� dredg�_ng.
# M�. Hacking commented that Victoria Grain Company
� wants to reserve the right to apply for a dredging
permit at a later date.
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Mayor Van Nest stated that portion of Outlot A,
� that is determined as part of Lake Minnetonka
and is navigable, is all that should be considered
� �or future dredging. There should be no intent to
� .lredge in the marsh. (Continued)
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� hiler.s�.y an� I r�t cn April 5, 1977_ I r�arked one of the p]ans in his presence to
�i e l�;,e a t e t h e s e a r�a s. M r. F-a c�;i n g's le t ter cat e d 4-1 2-7 7 indicates another mis-
un��erst�ing by �r, h'ilensky. Zhe last sentence of t},e first para�--aph refers to a
�,�.-�;ly propose-d c}:annel. I certainly w�uldn't suggest a d�ging project of this
�,1s�n1�ude• T71e rr,�3�n gurpose for this additional engineering data �•as reouir�-d to
�-�u�e d;ed in to a mini_rm.un +
S� g (capy of N,r. Hacku�g s Ietten enclosed) ,
�i.",FF - "�ril 14, 1977
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'� ��.;e�d }�fr. Nacl:ing's Ietter with a r,�p clelineating ar-e�s for more engir,ezring (copy
�f 1 e�ter r.�-1d �ap enclosed) , _
�i ter resp��ding to Mr. tiacking's letter, I received another today dated April 13 1977.
��st be try-ing to build up a record. '
S�.'.I�'F - April 18, 1977
� reviewed the airrent tax status of the subject praperties and fotmd the follo-w�ng.
;�ese value estirrates were made by the assessor in 1970.
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� (1) The S�11 er Parcel (RLS A 158) _
Esti:�a�ed Area - 10.7 acres
r Esti�ated Wetlands Area by assessor - 8 acres
� T�.arket ��alue - �15,000
Limited V�1ue - S8,200
� (2) The I,drge Parcel (RLS �924 - Tract B)
� Estimated Area - 31 acres
' Estirrated Dry Buildable Area by assessor - 12 acres
;�`.arket �'aluP including sr,all building - $63,700
� Lia-�ited �%al� including srrall building - $36,500
* Building Value
1�.arket - $3,700
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�r. Hac}:ing ard A;r. Cargill presen`�ed a model indicating two possible dock locations
�c�ss the marsh. One dock directed to the channel; the other fmm Lot 6 directly into
e lake. Mr. Hacking said that the travel distance from Lot 1 to the second dock
�ation kas cine-third of a mile objectionable. They requested approti�al of the plat
as submitted wi�}-�o�t any consen-at�on e�se�,ent over the marsh area (Outlot B) . The
�t'rlicant k-as znforned that the City reqt�ired an open space coRservation easement over
�etlands and manhlands an a11 subdivisions, and felt that k�aiving this policy would
Iy result in problerr� with this �nd other futu:�e subdi�rision proposals.
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(1) Cor.servation e��er�:nt over t}-,e �,etlands �+-ith prov�sions for providing access to
� the lake for the riparian owners,
•(Z) This access would be limited to one c�z;�� dock for all property ownen with a
6' wi de dock to navigab]e k-aters,
i(3) The location to be de�e�ined r}-irough agree;;z.nt betk�een Ci�y a�--ad pro��r�y c,,,,,�� .
(4) Park �dication Fee
�"��is access wc�ild be limited to only onet single, b ' wide dock to navigable �,�a�en to be
�-o he used for 1�Jce access by all pro�r�y ct„-ners of the subditi-ision. The Planning
�('o;;rr�iss�on also requested so.�e assurance that all prospective'purchasers by infor;,�ed
of the laJce access and dc�k status. Subsequent a,-ners by rade ak•are of rhe fact that
��,-�ly c�,e c�;�r,r�n access wauld be perznitted. The Fark 1_}��ication Fee wouid be �250 r
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� John Hacking: We are asking not to give up that SUBDIVISION
right to apply at a future date. 500 North Arm Drive
(Continued)
'�°ayor Van Nest: These lots (dry and buildable)
� have riparian rights but a conservation easement
. should not allow for dredging at a later date.
� Mr. Hacking was asked if he would like a ten-
minute recess to discuss this matter with his
client. r4r. Hacking replied: Yes.
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� rienry Muhich, Building & Zoning Adl-ninistrator, VARIANCE
read into the record the following, concerning 3450 North Shore Drive
` the variance request of William Odden, 3450 North #237
• Shore Drive: William Odden
� Planning Commission Meeting - April 4, 1977
� After reviewing the revised application, the
Planning Commission tabled the matter, subject
� 10 the following: �
� l. Clarification of easement location through
� title opinion to the City from an attorney.
� 2 . Letter of no objection to setback variance
from adjacent neighbors.
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3. Percentage of hardcover in Zone 2 .
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• P1_anning Corunission Mzeting - April 18, 1977
� I�Ir. Odden presented revised proposal consisting
of expanding garage to 3-stalls located 10 ' from
* side and 10 ' from rear. The third stall would be
used to store the camper. The boat would be
stored in the northeast corner of the lot. The
driveway would be of crushed rock rather than
+ blacktop or concrete to eliminate the hardcover
, in Zone 2. He presented a legal opinion to
confirm the easement status on the property.
� The document did not satisfy the Planning
Commission. Also presented written statement
� of approval for the house addition and garage
from the neighbors ,Floyd Engle and Gerald Ray.
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• The Planning �ommission recommended approval,
subject to providing proof to our City Attorney
,� indicating there are no easement problems. (Continued)
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, Council 1✓eeting - April 25, 1977 VARIANCE
3450 North� Shore Drive
� Butler moved, Welsh seconded, to approve the (Continued)
variance request of William Odden, 3450 North
� Shore Drive, per the Planning Commission
• minutes of April 18, 1977, subject to attorney' s
review and approval of easements. Motion,
� Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
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Henry Muhich, Building & Zoning Administrator, RIPR.AP
� read into the record the following request 2605 North Shore Drive
f_or riprap of Charles Pihl, 2605 North Shore #244
� D�-ive: _ Charles Pihl
! Mr. Charles Pihl, 2605 North Shore Drive,
i requests to riprap shoreline to prevent further
erosion. The applicant wants to continue the
� riprap from the neighbor' s property line to the
creek along the west side of his property.
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� A copy of the plan has been sent to our engineer
for review.
� Planning Commission Meeting - April 18, 1977
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Recommend approval subject to City Engineer' s
�nproval.
� Staff - April 20 , 1977
� Mr. Greg Frank, City Engineer, recommended
� approval.
� Council P�7eeting - April 25, 1977
� Butler moved, Welsh seconded, to approve the
. riprap request of Charles Pihl, 2605 North Shore
Drive, per the Planning Commission minutes of
� April 18 , 1977. P•lotion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
8: 45 P.M.
� At this time, City Administrator Dick Benson was BOMB THREAT
� notified by Police Sergeant James Franklin that
they had received an anonymous call that a bomb
� would go off in 15 minutes in the Police Building
or other buildings on the premises.
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� Mayor Van Nest was notified and the Council
Chambers were vacated. While waiting in the
� parking lot, it was decided and announced to
the public that the Council meeting would be
�, resumed at 7 : 00 P.M. Wednesday, April 27, 1977.
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. '�ayor Van Nest announced to the public present CONTINUED MEETING
and the press that the Council meeting will be �
�continued on Wednesday , April 27, 1977 at i : 00 P,M.
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