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Home My WebLink About05-17-1976 Council Meeting Minutes Public Hearing/ring route � , . CITY OF ORONO � Public Hearing of the Orono Council, 7: 30 P.M. • May 17, 1976 � The Orono Council met on the above date with � the following members present: Mayor Searles, Councilmembers Butler and Paurus. Absent: � Councilmembers Massengale and Welsh. • Mayor Searles announced that this was the • time and place for two public hearings. Henry Muhich, Building & Zoning Administrator, presented ! the Public Hearing Notice for the Multi-Housing � Ordinance, the Affidavit of Publication and the Certificate of Mailing. Mayor Searles extended � the public hearing for the Multi-Housing Ordinance, which will be chaired by the Planning Commission, � after the completion of the Ring Route public hearing. • � At 7: 35 P.M. , Mayor Searles announced that this was the time and place for the public hearing � concerning the Ring Route. Dick Benson, City Administrator, presented the Public Hearing � Notice, the affidavit of Publication, and the Certificate of Mailing. • Mr. Rick Sathre, representing McCombs-Knutson, t City Engineers, presented maps showing the • proposed ring route concept, stating that the proposal was presented in light of the present � traffic count on Hennepin County #15 and future traffic counts which are projected from 12,000 � V.P.H. to 23,000 V.P.H. in future years. � Mr. Sathre continued by stating that the construction would be financed by the M.S.A. • program and the estimated cost summary is as . follows: • Proposed M.S.A. Ring Route Estimated Cost Summary a Land Acquisition: � Right-of-way 7. 3 Acres @ $3000 = $21,000 Easements (slope) 3 Acres @ $3000 + $ 9 ,000 � Contingencies $ 3, _100 34,000 � � Grading: Common Excavation 66 ,000 CY @ $0. 75 = $49 ,500 � Unsuitable Soil Correction 37 ,500 CY @ $1. 00 = $37,500 Granular Fill 31,500 CY @ $3. 00 = $94 ,500 � Contingencies $18,100 $199 ,600 • � (Continued) • � � PUBLIC HEARING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL MAY 17, 1976 Page 2 � Surfacing: � Bituminous Surface: MHD 2341 - 3300 Ton @ $14 = $46,200 � Bituminous Tack - 1390 Gal @ 0. 75 = $ 1,050 � MHD 2331 - 5500 Ton @ $13 = $71,500 Gravel Base � Class 5 - 6600 Ton @ $3. 50= $23,100 Class 4 - 4100 Ton @ $3.00= $12 , 300 ` Contingencies $I5, 400 $169 ,550 • Miscellaneous � Pedestrian Underpass (10 X 10 Box) � 90 L.F. @ 420 = $37, 800 Drainage Culverts: 150 L.F. @ 12 = $ 1, 800 � Restoration: Sodding = $ 7, 300 � Seeding = $ 4,000 Contingencies = $ 5,100 � $56,000 • Total Construction Cost: $459 ,150 � Legal, Administrative & Engineering: $ 46,000 � Total Project Cost: $505,150 • Available Funds (Through 1976) - $300, 000 � Estimated 1977-1978 Funds - $130 ,000 • 430, 000 � Mr. John Miller, Chippewa Lane, submitted the � following petition from residents in the area stating that: 0 1. Are projected costs j:ustified? • 2. Will the proposed ring route reduce existing • traffic loads on other City streets? 3. We need adequate mass transit � Petition � We, the undersigned, are opposed to the construction � of the proposed segment of the ring belt road which would connect the intersection of County Road #84 • and #19 to that of Watertown Road and County Road #6 . in Orono Precinct No. 4. � The proposed roa�. will cut through an essential and extensive watershed eventually feeding into � Lake Minnetonka, and which drains naturally an area east of County Road #6 and #19 , and to a larger � extent, an area east and south of Maple Plain. Instead of being held �,n natural marshland, water � will have to be drained through large culverts. • (Continued) � � � � . PUBLIC HEARING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL MAY 17, 1976 Page 3 � Aside from the wetlands, the area affected by this PETITION • proposed road is primarily agricultural and (Continued) . grazing land and should not be diverted to housing development, which will inevitably result from � the subdivision caused by this roadway. � Cost of construction on a project of this kind will be much greater than hinted at in the letter � of April 9 from McCombs-Knutson Associates accompanying the announcement of the May 17 public � meeting at Orono Village Hall, and far greater � than the cost of upgrading and widening any existing alternate roadway. Further, one must � question whether the plan will relieve the traffic on #15 sufficiently to justify the cost and the � additional complications for taxpayers and residents of the area closest to the proposed road. � However, if indeed a heavy traffic diversion does � occur from the actual savings in mileage of 12 miles, � there will be a serious and unmentioned safety factor involved in funneling this traffic onto � U.S. #12. � The present County #6 intersects U.S. #12 at a point where there are more than an unsual number � of accidents each year. Not only are there sight line hazards at present on U.S. #12, but the � intersection is only thirty feet from a major � railway line, and a problem now exists with the backup of traffic at prime commuting hours when � a train goes through. Also there is considerable danger from westbound and/or eastbound traffic � attempting to turn off tT. S. #12 onto #6 during the passage of a train, especially a long freight • train. � The only solution then will be a very expensive • bridge and clover leaf approach to U.S. #12 which, again, is not hinted at in the McCombs-Knutson � Associates letter of April 9 , 1976. � The disruption of an eco system which is irreplaceable, of one aesthetically attractive area to be replaced • by concrete and asphalt, of plentiful wildlife which will be frightened off, of potentially � dangerous problems at the Burlington Northern Line � tracks, cannot be justified against the dubious advantage of transferring the traffic problem from � one area to another. � We feel that now is the time to get down to some serious and meaningful discussions on the development � of a competent and complete mass transit system • instead of more new roads which instead of offering a solution, only creates a new problem. � � � � • PUBLIC HEARING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL D2AY 17, 1976 Page 4 • Mr. R. F. Carruthers questioned, How do we RING ROUTE • protect the natural environment? (Continued) � Rick Sathre: We will build holding areas to � protect wetlands. � Mr. Robert Crompton asked, What happened to the Hennepin County proposed realignment of #110? � Mr. Craig Spencer, of Hennepin County Public • Works stated that the County has submitted and � reviewed four proposals to realign and construct arterials to relieve increased traffic in the � lake area, allowing County #15 to remain a scenic parkway, Hennepin County is looking for � the most favorable alternative to this problem. • Mr. Dave Deters and Mr. Bob Sorenson stated that they do not want their area to have to absorb � excessive traffic from Hennepin County #15 , and � what happens to the future tax base and future land use plans. � Mayor Searles stated that the area proposed for � the future ring route i� zoned five acre parcels and that trie future tax,� cv�iYl not be reduced by � this street construction. � Mayor Searles continued by saying that conclusions � from Hennepin County' s and Orono's traffic studies are to route excessive tafffic north to � State Highway #12. � Mr. John Miller questioned the urgency of this proposal saying that we are too premature in our � planning and that mass transit is the only solution. � Mayor Searles stated that Orono is always searching i for reasonable solutions. � Brad Van Nest and Councilman Paurus informed the public that this plan is part of a total transportation � plan as outlined in Hennepin County's future plans to design traffic routes to Sixth Avenue North • and State Highway #12. � Mr. Miller asked when will the City Council review ! and consider the proposed route for their decision? � Mayor Searles stated that the Council will notify all interested residents before Council takes � further action on this matter. .• � � � � • PUBLIC HEARING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL MAY 17, 1976 Page 5 � � Dick Benson, City Administrator, submitted for MINNETRISTA LETTER the record the following letter from the City f of Minnetrista: � The City Council has been apprised of your public hearing scheduled for May 17, 1976 at 7: 30 P.M. � Since this is at the same time our Council meeting is , the City Council has directed me to respond • by letter. � The City of Minnetrista has no objections to � your proposed use of State Aid Monies (MSA) . � If there is any other information you may wish to request for the City's concurrence on this � matter, feel free to contact us. S Jeffrey W. Nelson, City Administrator r The following residents were present: + A1 Yngve Plymouth � Bill Gagne 85 North Ferndale Tom Vickerman 679 Minnetonka Highlands Lane � Mr. & Mrs. Robert Roessel 65 Cygnet Pl•ace William Stempel 425 Turnham Road • Chad Miller Rt. 2 , Box 15, Maple Plain David Deters 145 Turnham Road � James Gulbranson Turnham Road ` Arvis Thompson Turnham Road Thomas Thompson 420 Turnham Road � J. W. Schmitt Rt. 2 , Maple Plain Graydon McCulley Rt. 2 , Maple Plain � Mr. & Mrs. Del Frink P.O. Box 215, Long Lake Stephen Craig Ward 4695 North Shore Drive • James E. Sidwell 1375 Park Drive • Lynn Sidwell 1375 Park Drive Sue Carrier 3128 Priest Lane, Mound � Steve Berg Minneapolis Tribune Marie Peterson 745 Orchard Park Road � Commie Carruthers 580 Orchard Park Road Frances M. Miller 3285 Chippewa Lane � Harold & Carol Albreclet 4545 North Shore Drive John R. Miller Route 2 , Box 15, Maple Plain � Bill Pollard 4225 County Road #6 • John C. Quade 1525 Minnie Avenue Tom Stoner 1535 Minnie Avenue � Donna Stoner 1535 Minnie Avenue Harold Van Den Elzen 16215 Ice Circle � Joe Sawchuk 4105 Watertown Road Don M. L. Houland 3975 Shoreline Drive � Mr. & Mrs. John Theobald 4017 North Shore Drive Robert B. Marvin 1530 North Arm Drive "against" � Fred Whiting Minneapolis Avenue . Joe Jenole Maple Plain Jane P�iller Rt. 2 , Box 15 , Maple Plain � Jeff Peterson 505 Virginia Ave. Long Lake • (Continued) i � . PUBLIC HEARING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL MAY 17, 1976 Page 6 f . Marlene Morrison 1530 North Arm Drive Against Gene Block 2305 Bayview Place � Gilmore Lee 4340 Sixth Avenue North Ray Pregl 4380 Sixth Avenue North � Fred W. Curtis 2180 Prospect Avenue Robert Sorensen Rt. 2 , Box 18, Maple Plain � Robert A. Compton Rt. 2 , Box 13, Maple Plain � After all persons present were afforded an ADJOURNMENT ` opportunity to speak, the Mayor closed the public hearing at 9 :00 P.M. � � � � �� ; > � - + ��o-�,e�t;�l C-�. � a � Robert L. Searles, Mayor � � � � � Attest: � Walter R. Be on, Clerk-Administrator � � � � � � � � a • a • • • � • a • • � i ) .1 �� _ )` F . . . � '�a � �Iay 11�, 1�37b _� �ie, the under�igr.ed, a.re opposed t� ths construction af the propo��d s�gmez�t of the `� :ir�; helt road w�-iich would connect the intersection of C�unty Road #�4 aaad #19 to that of hTater�own Road and C�unty Raad 6 in Grono ?'recinct �10. µ. _ ` . The proposed road �ill cut thro�h an essential and extensive watershed eventually feeding into Lake NLinnetonka, and �rhich drai.ris naturally an area east of County Road #6 and �`19, and to a larger extent, an area east a.nd south of Maple Plain, Instead of ' being held in r�atural ma,rshland, w�.ter will have to be drained through large culverts. _ _ _ Aaide from the �etlands, the area affected by this proposed road is primarily agricul-- ' tural �,nd grazing land and should not be diverted to housing development, which w:i11 inevitably result from the subdivision caused by this roadway. � Cost of construction or. a project of this kind will be much greater than hinted at in the letter of April 9 from McGombs-Knutson Associates accompanying the annour.cement of the May 17 public meeting at Orono Village Hall, and far greater than the cost of upg;ading and widening any existing a�ternate roadway, Further, one must question khether the plan will relieve the traffic on #15 sufficiently to justify the cost ' and the additional complications for ta,xpayers and residents of the area closest to _; the proposed road. � Ho�aever, if indeed a heavy traffic �iversion does occur from the`'actual savings in mileage of 12 miles, there• wi11 be a serious and un�entioned safety factor involved � in funneling this traffic onto U. S. #�12. � The present County #6 intersects U. S, �12 at a point ��rhere there are more than an usual number �f accidents each year. iVot only are there sight line hazards at presen� � on U. S. #12, but the intersection i� only thirty feet from a major railway line, and � a problem now exists with the bacKup of traff:i:c at prime commuting hours when a train goes through. Also there is considerable danger from westbound and/or eastbound � traffic attempting to turn off U. S. �{12 onto #6 during the passage of a train, especially a long freight tra,in. � • The only solution then wili be a very expensive bridge and clover leaf approach to � J. S. ##12 which, again, is not hinted at in the McCombs-I:nutson Associates letter of April 9, 197b. ) � The disruption of an eco system, which is irreplaceable, of one aestheticall,y attraetive area to be replaced by concr°ete and asphalt, of plentifi,il wildlife which will be �rightened off, of potentially dangerous problems at the Burlington Northern Line tracks, cannot ; be jus�iiied against the dubious advantage oi' transferring the traffic problem from � one area to another. � We feel that now is the time to get down to sone serious and raeanir�gful discussions on the development of a competent and complete mass transit system instead of more new . �' roads which instead of offering a solution, only creates a new problem. y_. _... .,. .-.. _. ,a,.. �' ,. ,... _._ , ...,.�_, . . ._.. .,,,2...,,4.,.,�;,.,rx, 'i � � � ,�°' Z r � � � I ( � ��1�� ?� r�� - �� t,� . 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