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� Special Meeting of the Orono Council, 6 : 00 P.M.
September 4, 1975
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The Orono Council met on the above date
� pursuant to the announcement given at the
Public Hearing on September 2, 1975, and pursuant
� to notice given to the newspaper to consider the
• matter of 73-1 Sewer Assessments and to review
all oral and written comments submitted by
� citizens. The following members were present:
Mayor Searles, Councilmembers Butler and
� Massengale. Also present: Engineer Long,
Attorney Malkerson, City Administrator Benson,
� and Building & Zoning Administrator Muhich.
Absent: Councilmeribers Paurus and Welsh.
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� Administrator Benson announced at this time,
that this was not a public hearing but a special Council
+ meeting to review and answer specific written
and oral comments as of record at the time of the
� meeting and that the official newspapers were
notified of this meeting.
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While there were numerous comments, they did
� fall in categories that could, in many cases,
� be answered in groups. All matters of restoration
for the project were referred to the City Engineer
► for action or explanation to the one who commented
concerning same. The following submitted complaints
� regarding restoration: Gary Krimmel, 960 Partenwood;
Thomas Smith, 1205 Tonkawa; James Glynn, 880
1 Windjammer; James Kinney, 996 North Arm Drive;
Herman Laue, 595 Park Lane; Charles Wilde,
� 692 Tonkawa Road, Gerald Parten, 985 Tonkawa;
� Robert Keiffer, 669 Minnetonka Highlands; and
Jay Becker, 3145 North Shore Drive.
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The problem of deferrment of assessments for
� senior citizens was posed by Robert Larson,
724 Tonkawa; Joan Anthony, 3115 North Shore Drive;
r and Richard Moen, 2480 Watertown Road. There
' followed a general discussion concerning that
possibility. Because of need for further study
i on this subject, it was referred to the meeting
of September 8, 1975 for further discussion.
� Some items as to cost were discussed and answered
� at the hearing of September 2 , 1975, complaints
were received regarding this from Ron Willow,
� 774 Tonkawa; Thomas Smith, 1205 Tonkawa; Jerry
• Scidmore, 125 Hackberry Hill; James Kinney,
996 North Arm Drive; Richard Nelson, Route 1,
� Long Lake; and Marge Gasch, 1030 Tonkawa.
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�PECIAL MEETING OF THE ORONO COUNCIL, SEPTEMBER 4 , 1975 Page 2
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i Some questions regarding equitableness of 60/40
assessment spread were brought up: George Johnson,
� Partenwood Road; Robert Larson, 724 Tonkawa; Ken
Weestrand, 885 Tonkawa; Margaret Christensen, 51
� Hackberry Hill; James 6�arner, 80 Hackberry HIll.
There followed a lenghty discussion by the citizens
� and Council. Some citizens were for it, some
. for an all unit charge, some for an all front
footage or area charge. This problem was moved
� to the September 8, 1975 meeting for further
discussion.
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The question of water being placed at the same
� time as sewer. While the area was not outlined,
it was inferred that the Hackberry Hill area was
� the area. Councilmembers brought out that a
� thorough study had been made on this before
reaching the decision that water was not
� feasible. Factors in reaching this decision was that
the cost was above replacing individual on-site
� water systems and the usage would hydraulically
overburden the Long Lake sewer system coupled with
� resultant low water pressure. To counteract this
problem, a new well and tower would be necessary near
� the Orono High School. It was also felt that municipal
` water was not the health hazard necessity that public
sewer is.
�• An individual review was made of the Russell Lund RUSSELL LUND
assessment on 905 Tonkawa Road. The property 905 Tonkawa Road
consists of three lots in Vasa Park, assessed
� for three units and frontage on the roll. Engineer
Long explained sewer was brought to the north and
� south lot lines but the center lot would have to
r be serviced when used and recommended that that
area be assessed a unit charge.
� Butler moved, Massengale seconded, that since the
� center lot did not have service and there was some
question of the placement of the house which might
� encroach partly on this lot, the lot should be
fully assessed. Motion, Ayes (3) - Ielays (0) .
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� The problem of Phillip Dykstra, 3080 North Shore PHILLIP DYKSTRA
Drive, was reviewed. Engineer Long explained that 3080 North Shore Dr.
! since the lot had adequate frontage and size for
two lots, it was assessed for two lots, including
� frontage. P�Iassengale felt this type of assessment
could force development. Engineer Long said there
� were about ten parcels similarily assessed. Members
• asked if the unit could be deferred with a resultant
$37, 777 drop in the assessment. It was felt that
� while there was some overage to cover contingencies,
� the subject should have further study and deferred
the matter to the September 8, 1975 meeting for
further discussion. Letters on the same type of
� assessment were received from James Spilde, 640
Tonkawa Road; Paul Ellingson, North Shore Drive;
� Ken Weestrand, 885 Tonkawa Road; Howard Meagher,
i 3980 Dahl Road; Robert Parten, Tonkawa Road.
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. Harry Coult, among the audience had questions about HARRY COULT
cost of laying sewer. It was explained that just JAMES KINNEY
� laying the pipe is not the only cost. There are
engineering cost and administrative costs a�.c�ecl.
� At this time, the discussion turned to a letter
• from James Kinney, 996 North Arm Drive, who
questioned why they should pay for lift stations
+ on adjacent low lots where theirs was a high lot.
Massengale stated you cannot draw an assessment
� to such a fine line that the cost of sewering each
lot or certain areas could be individually computed.
� Economies of sca_le were effected by having one
large project. �7e can't logically spell out figures
` for each area and say that was the actual cost
• of sewering that area.and to do so would result
in more assessments for everyone.
� James Wa.rner, 80 Hackberry Hill, felt that fair- JAMES WARNER
� minded people should not object to the placing of 80 Hackberry Hill
40% instead of 6% on the general levy. Butler
! countered by saying the policy in the past had
been the same as now, and that since about 80-90%
� of the sewer area was already sewered under past
� policy it would almost be double taxation to ask
the people sewered under that policy when they
� paid 100% of the cost to help pay for this project.
� There were a number of letters questioning the DAVID RIDLER
� footage assessed to their properties. Council- 960 Tonkawa
members and Engineer Long studied the problem of
David Ridler, 960 Tonkawa. All agreed that 150'
� would be a more equitable frontage assessment
. than the 200 ' , using past policy as a guideline.
. Next, the petition of Kenneth Vogel, 875 Wind- KErdPJETH VOGEL
jammer Lane, to reduce his assessable footage was 875 Windjammer Lane
+ studied. The Engineer stated he arrived at the
footage on this corner lot by taking 500 of the
A total footage on the two street sides. Since
the policy has been to assess the short side on
� these lots, the Engineer felt the assessable
• footage should be reduced from 210 ' to 160 ' .
� Councilmembers felt the assessable footage of DOUGLAS KELM
Douglas Kelm, 4070 Dahl Road, was equitable 4070 Dahl Road
� since the policy of using average dimensions on
irregular shaped lots was followed.
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Richard Hollander, 680 North Arm Drive, sent a RICHARD HOLLANDER
� letter stating he felt since he only had 0.63 680 North Arm Drive
� of the one acre requirement of the zone he was
in, he should only be assessed 630 of the unit
� requirement. Again, the policy has been to
� assess every resident a unit regardless of lot
size as long as the lot is buildable or can be
joined with an adjacent lot to create a bu�ldable
� lot.
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,� Two property owners, Richard Wagman and Ivan RICHARD WAGMAN
Gonsolus, Daniel 's Long Lake Heights, who owned IVAN GONSOLUS
� two lots of record next to their homestead felt
. the assessments, or at least the unit assessment
on these properties , should be dropped until
� built on. Again, the policy stating all lots of
record meeting the zoning code would have to be
S fully assessed.
� George Johnson presented a petition requesting GEORGE JOHNSON
deferring their special assessments for one PARTENWOOD
• year as contemplated in statute, Chapter 429. 061,
� Sub. 2 to provide more time for a reassessment
of their lateral, unit and acre assessment
� charges. He �elt the City did not make adequate
efforts to obtain funding for the project.
* Engineer Long stated that a great deal of effort
� went into getting E.P.A. funding, also HUD. The
E.P.A. funds had been channeled to the Metro Waste
• Control and HUD funds were not available. Searles
� asked Mr. Johnson to name one other agency where
he felt funding would be available. Johnson
+ cited the Metro Sewer Commission. Johnson also
felt the 60/40 formula was unfair to him, that
� the formula should lean more to the unit charge
than the lateral assessment. He was of the
� opinion that lateral assessments on subdivisions
� as Partenwood should be equal, thus those lots
with odd configurations would not be penalized.
i, Searles stated that the 60/40 formula was the
fairest for all properties in the project. He
� noted that any formula results in a slight disparity
for some lots. Some formulas favor large lot
'� owners, others favor small lots. The Council
• has found that the 60/40 formula is most equitable.
Searles noted that every property owner in the project
� will argue for that formula which will result in
a lower assessment for his property and a higher
� assessment, therefore, for his neighbor. Front
footage is used, in part, because the lot with
� the most front footage is more expensive to sewer
than the smaller lot and because front footage
� in fact reflects the area of the lot and the use
• district restrictions. A unit charge is also
used in part because there can still be only
� one house on any property.
� Since there are lots of diverse dimensions in
this project, the combination of front footage
� and unit has been shown to be the fairest and
. most rational.
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� Mr. & Mrs. A. H. Fox, 760 Tonkawa, protested A.H. FOX
the lateral assessment placed on the 20 ' easement 760 Tonkawa
� they had given for the project.
� Councilmember Massengale noted that the 60/40 MASSENGALE
� formula was not final but must still be voted
upon by the Council after review of input by
� staff and the citizens.
� Mayor Searles and Administrator Benson announced
� that the City Council and staff will have anotherspecial
Council meeting starting at 4: 30 P.M. , Monday,
� September 8, 1975 concerning the 73-1 assessment
roll to discuss all previous and new citizen
� comments. Benson stated that both City legal
newspapers will be notified this meeting will be
� held previous to our regular Council meeting which
convenes at 7: 30 P.Pd.
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• Searles asked if any citizens had any other comments
at this time. There were none.
� Massengale moved, Butler seconded, that the ADJOURNMENT
` meeting be adjourned at 11: 30 P.M. Motion,
Ayes (3) - PJays (0) .
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Robert L. Searles, Mayor
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+ Walter . B nson, Clerk-Administrator
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