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MINUTES OF THE
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Monday, March 22, 2004
7:00 o'clock p.m.
*7. #03-2928 MICHAEL MISCHKE, 1972 SHADYWOOD ROAD—VARIANCE—
RESOLUTION NO. 5135
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to adopt RESOLUTION NO. 5135 granting
variances to allow construction of a detached garage and first floor level deck for the
property located at 1972 Shadywood Road. VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
8. #03-2962 ROBERT AND JOAN SWITZ, 1740 SHADYWOOD ROAD,
VARIANCE —RESOLUTION 5136
Mayor Peterson moved and Murphy seconded to adopt RESOLUTION NO. 5136
granting lot area and hardcover variances to allow construction of a new residence for
the property located at 1740 Shadywood Road. Under discussion, Sansevere stated he
would be consistent with his previous vote. VOTE: Ayes 3; Nays 1 (Sansevere)
*9. #04-2973 MINNETONKA CUSTOM HOMES,4753 NORTH SHORE DRIVE —
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT—RESOLUTION NO. 5137
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to adopt RESOLUTION NO. 5137 denying a
conditional use permit to permit a retaining wall and grading within 5 feet of a
property boundary for the property located at 4753 North Shore Drive. VOTE: Ayes 4,
Nays 0.
10. #04-2976 JAMES AND JUDY PIERPONT, 1801 WEST FARM ROAD—
PLUMBING IN ACCESSORY STRUCTURES CUP—RESOLUTION NO. 5137
White moved and Sansevere seconded to adopt RESOLUTION NO. 5129 granting a
conditional use permit to allow plumbing in an accessory structure for the property
located at 1801 West Farm Road. VOTE: Ayes 3, Nays 1 (Murphy)
Council moved Item 16 to precede Item 11.
16. #2765 KELLEY PARKWAY—DENTAL OFFICE SIGN HEIGHT
Dr. Carl Berg was present.
McCarthy Construction has requested a sign permit for the dental office at 2765 Kelley
Parkway to allow a larger sign than was previously approved. Summary of the approval and
application is as follows:
November 2002 Approval:
Monument: 13' 4"wide x 12' high= 160 s.f. per side
Sign Face: 8' wide x 8' 6"high= 68 s.f. per face
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MINUTES OF THE
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING �
Monday, March 22, 2004
7:00 o'clock p.m.
(16. 2765 KELLEY PARKWAY—DENTAL OFFICE SIGN HEIGHT continued)
June 2003 Building Permit Staff Approval
Monument: 13' wide x 12' 8"high= 165 s.f. per side
Sign Face: 8' wide x 8' 6"high=68 s.f. per face
2004 Sign Permit Application
Monument: 13' wide x 13' 8"high= 178 s.f. per side
Sign Face: 7.125' wide x 10' high= 71 s.f. per face
The staffs concern is the height of the sign because it sets the tone for all other signage
along Kelley Parkway. Monument signs are by design intended to be low to the ground, as
opposed to pylon signs, which are by nature raised to a height for greater visibility. A
monument at 12' or 12' 8"is already pushing the limit, in staff's opinion, especially for an
office use. If this were retail, there would be a greater need for high visible signage.
Staff also stated the Development Agreement provides for minor amendments to the
approved plan and may be referred to the Development Review Committee, which consists
of the Planning Director,Public Services Director and the City Planner.
Sansevere stated that the low sign that staff is recommending is fine but the high one is
above the roofline.
Mayor Peterson stated she couldn't endorse the variance. She said it is a destination point
and doesn't need a brightly lit sign.
Murphy inquired if his business is by word-of-mouth and Dr. Berg responded affirmatively.
White asked if the applicant is going to encase the steel posts with the nice pillar looking
facade as on the inside and the applicant responded affirmatively.
Applicant stated the City granted two signs. Tenant names can't be seen from the road on
the current height sign and he doesn't feel the sign he wishes to place is too high.
Murphy told the applicant he has resource against the developer/builder.
Mayor Peterson said the Wayzata Medical Building sign doesn't list all the doctors on it and
this is a medical facility.
Applicant Berg also has had great difficulty with the Kelly Avenue versus Kelley Parkway
address in dealing with the post office. They continually get the two addresses confused and
it just hasn't worked well.
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MINUTES OF THE •
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Monday,March 22, 2004
7:00 o'clock p.m.
(I6. 2765 KELLEYPARKWAY—DENTAL OFFICE SIGNHEIGHT co�iti�iued)
Gaffron stated that the address could be addressed. Berg responded that he could speak with
his partners.
Gaffron stated in staff's opinion the sign at 12' or 12' 8"is pushing the limit, especially for
an office use.
White suggested making the Orono Professional Center in smaller letters or putting on a
lower sign and then the tena.nt names could be larger.
Sansevere stated the sign exceeded and interrupted the roofline and it would be more
visually pleasing if one-foot lower.
Murphy stated the Cotulcil has gone a long way on previous issues related to this project.
Applicant Berg also stated they went a long way. ,
Murphy moved and Mayor Peterson moved to deny the application based on staff s
recommendation that the sign not exceed the 12' 8" height approved with the building
permit. VOTE: Ayes 4; Nays 0.
11.#04-2974 RELIANCE DEVELOPMENT CORP.,HIGHWAY 12/WILLOW
DRIVE (OUTLOT A, STONEBA�—COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT
Gaffron explained Planning Commission tabled this item on February 17 pending a joint
work session with the Long Lake Planning Commission, which was held on March 3. At
that work session, the commissions exchanged information about current and pending
activities along the Highway 12 corridor, and discussed whether rezoning of this site might
impact redevelopment efforts in Long Lake. Each commissioner in attendance drew his/her
own conclusions regarding that discussion.
On February 17,Planning Commission also established a list of acceptable uses for the
property if it is rezoned. The Planning Commission refined this on Mazch 15.
Murphy inquired what the list of uses ineant. Gaffron responded by saying that when the
property is rezoned there will be a list of allowed uses for this property and if any approved
uses on the list become a drive-thru there would be CUP on the permit.
On March 15, Plaiuung Commission concentrated primarily on determining whether to
recommend that the Comprehensive Plan be amended to re-guide the site to allow primarily
retail uses,rather than the primarily office uses for which the site is currently guided.
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