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June 25, 2007 �Bonestroo
Mr. Lyle Oman
Building Official
City of Orono
Post Office Box 66
Crystal Bay, MN 55323
Re: 2690 Fox Street
File No. 000139-07000-1
Plat No. 07-A11097
Dear Lyle:
We have reviewed the Grading Plan for the proposed house at 2690 Fox Street, tlated 6-5-07. We have the
following comments with regards to engineering matters:
• The survey should show existing contours extending 50" beyond all lot lines.
• All existing structures antl trees shoultl be shown on the survey. In addition, the City should
consider the extent of tree removals as a result of the proposed construction.
• In order to tletermine existing antl proposed drainage patterns, more information, such as spot
elevations, shoultl be shown along Fox Street, especially at the proposetl tlriveway. It may be
necessary to atld a culvert underneath the driveway to allow drainage to continue east along Fox
Street.
• All existing contours shoultl be labeled.
• The City should be aware that the proposed septic sites overlap.
• We are concerned with the proximity of the swale to the southwest corner of the house, in adtlition
to the flat grade of the swale. We would recommentl that the swale have a slope of at least 2%.
• The proposed house elevation and adjacent grading is significantly higher than existing grades,
requiring a large amount of fill to be used. The applicant should justify the reason for this.
If you have any questions, please call me at(651) 604-4863.
Yours very truly,
BONESTR00
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Darren Amundsen
Cc: Tom Kellogg
MEMORANDUM
To: Lyle Oman, Building Official
Willie Gibbs, Septic Systems Inspector
Street File, 2690 Fox Street
Copies: Gary Peterson
A1 Kestner
From: Mike Gaffron, Planning Director
Date: October 16, 2006
Subject: Administrative Lot Area Variance for 2690 Fox Street
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---A TTACH THIS TO B UILDING PERMIT---
The above referenced property has a lot width of 264.0 feet and contains approximately 53,700
s.f. or 1.23 acres gross area, all of which is dry buildable land. The property is zoned RR-1B
Rural Residential, requiring a lot width of 200 feet and a dry buildable lot area of 2.0 acres.
Per Orono Zoning Code Section 78-72(b)(3) as amended by Ordinance No. 9, Third Series on
May 24, 2004, the Planning Director has the authority to grant a lot area variance if the following
conditions are met:
1. The lot area and lot width each meet at least 50% of the district standards.
(This standard is met)
2. Suitable primary and alternate septic sites are identified on the property and are protected
from future development by execution of a covenant.
(Sites are identified and approved - see attached memo by Septic Systems
Inspector Willie Gibbs, attached septic system design information, and site
layout survey by Gronberg & Associates dated 7-14-06; covenant document
to be executed by owner and filed in chain of title is attache�
3. All other zoning ordinance requirements must be met, including but not limited to the
following:
i. Setbacks (Met based on proposed site plan)
ii. Hardcover (Not Applicable)
iii. Lot coverage by structures limited to 15% of lot area(Met)
iv. Accessory structure requirements (Proposed pool has a basin area of
684 s.f. and meets the required 10' rear setback)
Based on the above, an administrative lot area variance is hereby approved, subject to execution
of the covenant for protection of sewage treatment sites prior to issuance of demolition and
building permits.
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June 25, 2007 �Bonestroo
Mr. Lyle Oman
Building Official
City of Orono
Post Office Box 66
Crystal Bay, MN 55323
Re: 2690 Fox Street
File No. 000139-07000-1
Plat No. 07-A11097
Dear Lyle:
We have reviewetl the Grading Plan for the proposed house at 2690 Fox Street, dated 6-5-07. We have the
following comments with regards to engineering matters:
• The survey should show existing contours extending 50' beyontl all lot lines.
�`'F �ss���� All existing structures and trees should be shown on the survey. In addition, the City should
consider the extent of tree removals as a result of the proposed construction.
• In order to determine existing and proposed drainage patterns, more information, such as spot
elevations, should be shown along Fox Street, especially at the proposed tlriveway. It may be
necessary to add a culvert underneath the driveway to allow drainage to continue east along Fox
Street.
• All existing contours should be labeled.
�-� �ss�e-� The City should be aware that the proposed septic sites overlap.
• We are concerned with the proximity of the swale to the southwest corner of the house, in addition
to the flat grade of the swale. We would recommend that the swale have a slope of at least 2%.
��� ,� �ss��. The proposed house elevation and adjacent grading is significantly higher than existing grades,
h J� �[��G� requiring a large amount of fill to be used. The applicant should justify the reason for this.
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��F�v,� If you have any questions, please call me at (651) 604-4863.
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BONESTR00
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Darren Amundsen
Cc: Tom Kellogg
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Mr. Lyle Oman
Bullding OFFcial
City of Orono
Post�fFice Box 66
Crystal Bay, MN 55323
Re: 2690 Fox Sveet
File No. 000"139-07000-'1
Plat No. 07-A'1 1097
Dear Lyle:
We nave revi�wed tFie Gratleng Plan for the proposad Fiouse at 2690 Fox Sveet, tlated 6-5-07. We have che
foilowing comments with regards to engineering mat[ers:
• The survay sF�ould sl�ow extsting contours extending 50' bi>yond all loi lines.
�"�"s,s��-�y� All exiscing svuctures and trees should be sYiown on ihe survay. In addiilon. the Clty should
consitler che axteni of trea removals as a result of the proposed constructlon-
• In orda� to dete�mine existing and proposed drainage patterns, more information, such as spot
elevations, should be shown along Fox Street, especlafly at the proposed driveway. It may be
necessary to add a culvert underneath th�e ciriveway to aYlow dralnage to conctnue east along Fox
Sveet.
� All existtng contours should I�e labeled.
�-,d-�w. �ss�cz�y TF�e City should be aware that the proposed septic sites overlap.
� We are concerned wfth tFie proximity of ihe swale to the southwest corner of ihe housa, in addition
to th�e fla2 grade of tha swale. We would recommentl[tiat:the swale Fiave a slope of at least 2%_
h� o,,��Ss�r°�• The proposed F-�ouse alevation and adjacent grading is sign7fican2ly hlgher ihan exlscing grades,
�����`� rsquiring a large amouni o�fill to be used. The appllcant xhould jusciFy tY�e reason Por xhis.
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���a��� If you Fiave any questions, please call me at (65l) 604-4863.
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Darren Amundssn
Cc: 7om Kellogg
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Dear Mr. Moore:
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� Please be advised that this law firm represents the City of Orono. It is my
understanding that you have been working with Lyle Oman, the Orono Building
Official, and Tom Kellogg, the Orono City Engineer, regarding the drainage issues
located on your property. In discussing this issue with Tom Kellogg, he has made
various recommendations to you regarding the most appropriate way to deal with the
drainage issues on your property to prevent water from flowing toward the house that
you are constructing. It is my understanding that you have installed drain tile on your
property designed to carry water off your property. It is also my understanding that
because this drain tile collects water from adjacent properties, Tom Kellogg has
recommended that you grant the City an easement to insure that this drain tile is
maintained and cleaned out to prevent any backup that would cause flooding around
the house. Mr. Oman informs me that you are reluctant to grant the City an easement
for the drain tile and have inquired whether the City has any authority to require the
easement at this point in time. I ain writing this letter to inform you none of the
approvals that have been granted require you to grant an easement for drainage
purposes to the City. However, please be advised that it is the City Engineer's opinion
that the house will eventually sustain some level of water damage if the drain tile is
not properly mainiair�ed.
If you have any questions regarding this correspondence, please feel free to
contact me.
Very truly yours,
CAMPBELL KNUTSON
Professional Association
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By:
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Cc: Lyle Oman, Orono Building Official
Tom Kellogg, Orono Engineer
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Mr. Bruce Vang
Building Official
City of Orono
Post Office Box 66
Crystal Bay, MN 55323
Re: 2690 Fox Street
File No. 000139-07000-1
Plat No. 07-A11097
Dear Bruce:
We have reviewed the Grading Plan for the proposed house at 2690 Fox Street, dated 7-12-07. We have the following
comments with regards to engineering matters:
• The revised plan shows a rain garden at the east edge of the lot. It is our understanding that this will receive
approximately half of the house run off and as much of the driveway as possible. This design is fully acceptable.
• With our field inspection on 7-12-07, we located a drainage pipe that runs from the northwest corner of the
property to and ties into the existing catch basing shown just east of the proposed driveway. This pipe must
continue to function during and after the house construction.
• If the proposed home foundation or associated grading damages or exposes the existing pipe, a solution to this
situation must be approved by the city. This may require installing a new storm sewer and catch basins that
connect to the existing pipe from the northwest, installing catch basins in the yard, and connecting the proposed
driveway culvert to the existing catch basin.
• At a minimum, we are requiring the bottom of the drainage swale to be at least eight feet wide and at a slope of
1.8%. Based on the city's Storm Water Management Plan, we calculate the depth of flow in the swale to be
approximately six inches deep. The spot elevation at the upstream end of the proposed driveway culvert should be
lowered 952.0 and the driveway emergency overflow should be lowered to 952.5. By sizing the swale to the
width and grade noted and lowering the swale elevation to 952.0, the two feet of freeboard requirement will be
met.
• The city should obtain a drainage easement over the drainage way or pipe(s) along the western side of the
property once the final means of storm water conveyance and location are finalized.
If you have any questions, please call me at(651)604-4894.
Yours very truly,
BONESTR00
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Darren Amundsen
Cc: Tom Kellogg
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1)Slope: 1�
Height of string(in inches) x 100
Distance between stakes(in inches) %
2)Rain garden depth: 2�
From Chart on page 5 �j/ �,
3)Home footprint: 3)
Length ofhouse x width of house sq.ft.
4)Number of downspouts: 4) �
Total number of downspouts on home
5)Roof area draining to garden: ��L f. 1 M pERV�4N,S 5)
(Line 3= Line 4) x number of downspouts J..�- .� S � sq.ft.
directed to the rain garden
6)Lawn area(if more than 30 ft from downspout): 6)
Length of uphill lawn area x width of uphill lawn area Z `>'. '�' S O gq.ft.
7)Total drainage area: '7)
Line 5+line 6 �0, 2, U O sq.ft.
8)Soil type: g)
Enter sandy,silty or clayey from results on page 7 � L A Y E Y'
9)Rain garden size factor: 9)
Results from table 1 or table 2 on page 8 �• ��
10)Rain garden size: 10)
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the runoff. If you do not wish to build a rain garden of this size,a smaller rain garden will still help
control runoffand filterpollutants.
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