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Home My WebLink Aboutre driveway � MEMORANDUM Date: February 15, 2012 From: Christine Mattson, Planning Assistant Mike Gaffron, Assistant City Administrator/ Long-Term Planning RE: Driveway easement serving 2550 8� 2580 Fox Street through 2530 Fox Street City staff has been asked about the possibilities of either moving the driveway that currently bisects 2530 Fox Street and serves 2550 & 2580 Fox Street to a different location, or relocating the driveway access from Fox Street to Fox Run (private road) and avoid crossing 2530. Staff is unable to give a definitive answer as to whether relocating the existing easement driveway is possible or feasible. Moving the driveway from its current location to the easterly edge of the property poses a number of concerns and questions that would have to be addressed: • The owners of 2550 & 2580 Fox Street must be willing participants in changing the driveway location. If they are not willing, then the existing location must remain. • There is a "Manage 2" Classification wetland on the property which would require the establishment and improvement of a new 25' wetland buffer around the entire wetland (affecting all three properties) if grading for a new driveway occurs (City Code also requires a 20' structure setback from the buffer which might or might not come into play). The wetland would have to be delineated to determine the wetland edge. Variances would be required because of the necessity of an additional driveway crossing of the wetland, which potentially could be denied because such impacts could clearly be avoided by not changing the existing situation. Additionally, the Flowage and Conservation Easement that has been in place since the original plat of Beau Marais in 1986 generally prohibits the creation of a driveway crossing. • The Minnehaha Creek Watershed District (MCWD) would necessarily be involved. City staff does not know MCWD's position regarding creating a new wetland crossing given the factors applicable to this request. • Any new crossing of the wetland at a narrow point would be on 2550 or 2580 Fox StreeYs property. It appears there are many mature pine trees along that easterly lot line of all three involved properties. There is a potential that many of these would have to be removed in order to construct a new driveway and wetland crossing. Although the City doesn't currently have a tree preservation ordinance, there could be some potential issues, especially if the property owner to the east at 2420 Fox views them as a buffer to his property. • Topography indicates there is an approximately 10 foot change in grade from the eastern property boundary to the wetland. No grading is allowed within 5' of a property line. Is there room for grading to establish a new driveway and any potentially needed retaining walls between the easterly property line and the wetland buffer? In 1995 when the preliminary plat application was reviewed for subdivision of Lot 1, Beau Marais into a north lot and a south lot (zoning application #2029 / preliminary plat resolution #3577) several driveway scenarios were presented. One of the scenarios at that time was to access the new lot (2530) from the private road Fox Run. The Fox Run homeowners at that time were not interested in allowing additional driveway traffic onto that road. We do not know today whether that position is still prevalent. They do not have to allow additional users. Further, City codes would demand an upgrade of that private road to a current rural private rural road standard of 24' in paved width in order to serve a fifth or sixth home should 2550 or 2580 be added to it. City staff would support the concept of 2550 and 2580 accessing Fox Run, but recognize that there may be additional impacts that would have to be addressed (new joint easements, different wetland impacts, etc.). 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Selected Parcel Data Date Printed: 2/16/2012 8:26:16 AM Parcel ID: 04-117-23-41-0010 Current Parcel Date: 02/03/2012 Owner Name:]ULIE ANN JOHNSON Parcel Address: 2530 FOX ST,ORONO,MN 55391 Property Type: RESIDENTIAL Sale Price: ;410,000.00 Homestead: HOMESTEAD Sale Date: 03/2003 Area (sqft): 180582 Sale Code:VACANT LAND Area (acres):4.15 A-T-B:ABSTRACT Market Total: ;1,129,000.00 7ax Total: $13,012.30 http://gis.co.hennepin.mn.us/HCPropertyMap/Locator.aspx 2/16/2012 � � F�� zSSD �x S'r �Ee�iv�,�d Octobe�20, 2015 0(,�T � �zo�5 Mike Gaffron,City Pianner C��-�, OF ORONO Christine Mattson,Planning Assistant Please find enclosed copies of communication with 2530 Fox Street property owners and agents as regards their interest in reiocating the existing,longstanding driveway servicing properties of 2530, 2550,and 2580 Fox Street. Records show that this driveway preceded the subdivision creating 2530 and its buifdable tot,and was improved to service three homes. Records will show there is an existing easement for this driveway as well as a maintenance agreement, of which 2530 is currently in violation for not having contributed to specified winter service and ongoing drive mairrtenance. The property owners of 2530 have requested consideration of an alternate drive for 2550 and 2580, presumably to then dissoive the valid driveway easement currentty in place. This communication includes written notice of our disagreement with and disinterest in further considering a potentia!driveway relocation. We have included from 2530 an engineering rendering of a proposed new drive,which would require a portion of our properties for this unapproved use. To be clear,the property owners af 2550 and 2580 explicitly and categoricatly reject any proposal to relocate the exisiing drive allowir�g access to our p�operties. Somewhat separate but related,we also have significant concerns given recent spray-paint markings (ind'+cating likely removal)of at least two mature, healthy-taoking trees in the vicinity of the proposed drive ciose to Fox Street given Orono tity concerns in maintaining and preserving existing mature trees and that these trees are likely subject to existing watershed regulations. It is our hope that this notice wil!inform the city of Orono and potentially interested parties/home- buye�s in our position o�the alternate driveway proposed by owners of 2530 Fox Street. Sincerely, Jamin & Maria Marks Jay&Christine Malmquist Outlook.com Yrint Message Page 1 of 2 Print Close RE: neighbor Bob Witt RECEIVED Fi�om: Julie Ann (julieannwitt@hotmail.com) OCT 2 2 2015 Sent: Tue 10/06/15 1:45 PM To: Malmquist, Jay (jmalmquist@wipfli.com) C�IY OF ORONO 1 attachment driveway option.pdf(722.3 KB) Jay and Jamin, We have attached a copy of the proposed driveway option there are a few thing we would like you to know before you make the final decision on the option to moving the driveway/access to your properties. lst We at 2530 Fox street would pay for the project there would be no charge to either of you for the new driveway access. 2nd We feel and I know you Jay have had concerns about traffic driving through you property...this would address that concern for all of us. 3rd With the new access we and the city of Orono believe this should have been where it should have been from the beginning and would address any concern for future buyers for any of our properties. We would like to open up the conversation with both of you and address any concerns either of you have or ideas on what you would like to make sure gets addressed. thanks far your consideration and please feel free to call, text or email either of us. bobwittl na,gmail.com 612-325-9022 thanks again Julie and Bob Witt > From:jmalmquist@wipfli.com > To:julieannwitt@hotmail.com > Subject: RE: neighbor Bob Witt > Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 22:17:16 +0000 > > Julie Ann and Bob, > > I received Bob's voicemail on my work number. I did have a chance to discuss your idea of moving the shared driveway with the neighbors at 2580 Fox Street. Your previous realtor had also stopped by on two occasions over the last couple years to discuss the driveway and the driveway relocation option was also discussed at that time with the 2580 neighbors. Previously, we (2550 Fox Street and 2580 Fox Street) stated to your realtor that we do not have an interest in moving the driveway and we again do not have an interest in discussions related to any relocation of the shared https://co1131.mail.live.com/oUmail.mvc/PrintMessages?mkt=en-us 10/6/2015 Outlook:com Yrint Message Page 2 of 2 ' 'driveway. >- > Jay Malmquist > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Julie Ann [mailto:julieannwitt@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, October O1, 2015 11:51 AM > To: Malmquist, Jay > Subject: neighbor Bob Witt > > Hi Jay, > > Bob Witt your neighbor 2530 fox st...been working on a plan with the city and water shed for moving access drive driveway and would like to show you what we are thinking...call or email anytime and I can meet with you and show you. > > Thanks > > Sent from my iPad > > > The content of this E-mail and any attached files is confidential, and may be subject to certain privilege. This email is intended for the designated recipient(s) only. If you have received this E-mail in error, please immediately contact the sender. > > WIPFLI LLP > CPAs and Consultants > https://co1131.maillive.com/ol/mail.mvc/PrintMessages?mkt=en-us 10/6/2015 R�CEIVED - � ��,,� OCT 2 2 2015 Jamin Marks <jamin.marks@gmail.com>" Er�4.�•:I��1�'�IE' ____- -__ __ _.___------_____. __ __------ - -- - . _ CtTY F?F ORONO Driveway Jamin Marks <jamin.marks@gmail.com> Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 9:10 AM To: julieannwitt@hotmail.com, bobwitt1@gmail.com Cc: Jay Malmquist <jrmalmquist@hotmail.com>, Christine Malmquist <camalmquist@hotmail.com>, Maria Marks <mcmmarks@gmail.com> hello Julie Ann and Bob, This is Jamin and Maria Marks, property owners of 2580. We've been indirectly receiving various emails relating to the driveway so I thought respond directly to ensure our position is clear and unambiguous. We are sorry you haven't been able to sell your house at your desired price point for the past several years. The house looks nice and well constructed. We have received, indirectly, the specific driveway relocation proposal you have in mind. We are also well aware of the history here, haven spoken with the city planner about your efforts and being in receipt of your prior correspondence to the city and even the initial site plans. We would be most impacted by your proposal as we are the owners of the land on the east side of Malmquists, that abuts your property, that you are recommending to be cut of trees and then used for a driveway and various culverts. To be clear, we have no interest in allowing our property to be used this way and think this is a bad idea for a number of reasons. We have given this careful thought and we don't need further discussion or additional detail. 1 also don't grant permission for entry on my property for further feasibility studies. 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