HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-10-1988 Council MinutesMINUTES OF THE REGULAR ORONO COUNCIL MEETING
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HELD OCTOBER 10, 1988
ATTENDANCE 7:00 P.M.
The Council met on the above date with the following members
present: Mayor' Grabek, Councilmembers Nettles,_ Goetten and
Callahan; Councilmember Peterson was absent. The following
represented the "City staff: City Administrator Bernhardson,
Building & Zoning Administrator Mabusth, Public Works Director
Gerhardson, Assistant Planning and Zoning Administrator Gaffron,
Building Inspector Jacobs, City Planning Consultant Shardlow,
City Recorder Scheffler and City Attorney Barrett.
PUBLIC HEARING 7:02 P.M. - 7:04 P.M.
SPECIAL ASSESSMENT
1929 Fagerness Point Road
3960 Sixth Avenue North
The Affidavit of Publication and Certificate of Mailing were
duly noted.
City Administrator Bernhardson explained that there were
hazardous building proceedings that involved both of these
properties. The cost to be assessed to 1929 Fagerness Point Road
is $4,800.00. This amount resulted from not only the necessary
legal fees involved, but also the costs for actual removal of the
structure. The $1,500.00 costs for 3960 Sixth Avenue North were
• primarily legal fees.
The owners of these properties were not present for this
public hearing.
There were no comments from the public regarding this matter
and the public hearing was closed. ,
It was moved by Councilmember Callahan, seconded by
Councilmember Nettles to assess the properties at the addresses
mentioned above with special assessments as set forth in
Resolution #2523. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
CONSENT AGENDA*
City Administrator Bernhardson requested the removal of
Consent Item #30.
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Nettles, to approve the Consent Agenda with the
exception of Item #30, which was omitted. Motion, Ayes =4,
Nays =O, Motion passed.
APPPROVAL OF MINUTES*
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Nettles, to approve the Mintues of the September
28, 1988 Regular Council Meeting.
PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS
There were no Planning Commission comments.
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• PUBLIC COMMENTS
City Administrator Bernhardson explained that Mr. Butch
Loomis had submitted a Petition regarding safety for the 1 1/2
mile section of- Highway 12 between the Luce Line and downtown
Long Lake. Mayor Grabek accepted the Petition.
There were no further public comments.
ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT:
HIGHWAY 12 ZONING AMENDMENT
City Administrator Bernhardson gave a brief introduction of
this matter. When Orono had adopted the Comprehensive Plan
amendment, Mr. Shardlow was hired to develop an ordinance to
implement that plan. The initial proposal was presented to the
Planning Commission in June. The Planning Commission heard the
matter at a special meeting on August 17, 1988, and forwarded it
on to the Council. Mr. Shardlow was going to present a revised
proposal and introduction to the Councilmembers and Mayor Grabek
and hoped to receive some feedback. This matter would be tabled
and action would be taken at either the October 24th or November
14th Council Meeting.
Mr. Shardlow stated that there were three items he would be
• addressing. The first was a set of special requirements for
rezoning in the Highway 12 Corridor. These would correspond with
the minimum standards to achieve zoning that are set forth in the
Comprehensive Plan itself. There are some over - riding issues
such as sanitary sewer, the need to correspond to the overall
transporation plan for that area and concerns regarding the
quality of development. The first ordinance provides more
details in accordance with the Plan as follows:
A. Minimum area is the first item addressed in the proposed
ordinance. This sets forth a minimum of 5 acres that would be
required in order to apply for rezoning.-
B. Access and circulation plan which requires that no
matter what the size or shape of the area, there must be
information provided that demonstrates that the proposal will tie
into the Corridor and overall traffic objectives.
C. Sanitary sewer availability is a key point and the
applicants would need to demonstrate that they have adequate
capacity availability now or a future plan that is feasible to
the City to serve the subject property.
D. Storm water management addresses the issue of water
quality and requires the applicant to submit detailed site
drainage plans to show that runoff and storm water ponding will
• be handled in accordance with the City's standards.
E. Available Zoning Districts that can be applied for are
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identified in this section. They are as follows:
HC- Highway Commercial District
PRD- Planned Residential Development
R1A -One Family Residential District
R1B -One Family Residential District
M6- Multiple Family Planned Residential District
Also available within the Corridor will be the new PUD District
which will be a floating district that anyone could apply for
anywhere within the community.
F. Building Design and Construction addresses the building
standards within the Corridor. It requires that all additions to
buildings, outbuildings and accessory structures, retaining
walls, etc., will all be constructed of. the same type of high
quality material.
G. Requirement of Development Agreement. This section
states that any application for - rezoning will have to be subject
to a development agreement between the City of Orono and the
applicant. The development agreement would address such issues
as sanitary sewer, timing of construction, .etc.
The next section Mr. Shardlow outlined was the B -6 Highway •
Commercial District. This zoning district was created was
because of the need to tailor a zoning district specifically to
the commercial alternatives adopted by the City for Highway 12.
The Planning Commission reviewed Mr. Shardlow's list of proposed
commercial uses for the Highway 12 Corridor. They indicated that
they would like to limit the permitted uses with the
understanding that if there was an application for a use not
expressly permitted that an application could be submitted under
the Planned Unit Development process (PUD). This would enhance
the City's discretion and review of such proposals.
The permitted uses are as follows:
.1. Offices (Business and Professional)
2. Banks and financial institutions
3. Libraries
4. Motels and hotels
5. Class I Restaurants
This section clearly outlines the relationship between the B -6
Highway Commercial District and the PUD District. Subdivision 4
allows for the application of commercial uses that are in keeping
with the Comprehensive Plan, but the City would regulate the
application for those uses through the PUD process.
Councilmember Nettles asked whether the review process for •
the PUD would be the same as if an application were submitted for
a use permitted within the district? Mr. Shardlow stated that
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there would be an application for a use that was consistent with
the Comprehensive Plan, but a rezoning process would still be
necessary. It would be difficult to deny a use that was allowed
by the Comprehensive Plan. The review process would focus on
aesthetics, the quality of the development, traffic and other
performance standards. If application were made for a use that
was shown as a permitted alternative, it would be a request for a
rezoning for a use that is consistent with the Comprehensive
Plan. Nettles then asked whether the Council could deny such an
application, even though the proposed use was permissable under
the zoning plan for other districts other than the B -6 Zone?
Shardlow replied that if the Council were not comfortable with
allowing certain uses within certain areas, then the
Comprehensive Plan should be changed accordingly. The Planning
Commission had previously indicted that their concern was not use
as much as quality. Shardlow had suggested .placing performance
standards within the B -6 District over and above those in the
other zoning districts. In addition, the PUD gives the City the
opportunity to enter into making a design framework manual, and
specific covenants part of the official approval. However, land
use should not be a basis for denial.
City Attorney Barrett stated that should there be any
• changes to the ordinance that would now allow any subsequent
zoning to defy the Comprehensive Plan so that it would not
control the zoning under the statutes, that may give the Council
more discretion in the zoning process. However, the list of uses
is very narrow and distinguishing that list from slightly
different uses would not be easy and the idea that there is a
distinction which would require a different level of review would
be difficult. Nettles suggested that since, the Highway 12
Corridor is such an important issue, that perhaps some criteria
should be established as to how uses would be diffentiated from
the City of Orono as-a whole to the Highway 12 Corridor.
The ordinance sets forth the specific performance standards
such as lot area, lot widths, setbacks, etc. Lot area has been a
topic highly discussed. Some of the proposed uses may not
require 2 acres of land. The Planning Commission indicated that
they wanted to leave the minimum lot area at 2.acres with the
understanding that should there be application for a series of
uses, some of which would sit on smaller lots, they could apply
through the PUD. The PUD would help in providing an overall
consistency for such applications. The PUD would allow for
flexibility in the performance standards as long as the applicant
could show the advantages of such flexibility.
The ordinance also addresses the issue of drainage and
requires that site and drainage plans be submitted with an
•application. It places a height limitation of 35' except through
the issuance of a conditional use permit. There would be a
requirement that a minimum of 25% of the lot area and at least 3%
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of the land area within a parking area be landscaped. That
section of the ordinance sets forth minimum sizes of landscape
materials at the time of planting. Section I provides direction
with regard to trash and trash handling equipment. Any accessory
structures must be,of similar type, quality and appearance as the
principal structure. The ordinance would require that the ground
level view of all mechanical utilities and external loading and
service areas be screened, and that automobile headlights and
other sources be screened whenever it may directed onto adjacent
residential windows.
The final ordinance is the Planned Unit Development (PUD)
Ordinance. The PUD would be a floating district that would be
available for application anywhere throughout Orono. The PUD
would provide for flexibility in the development standards. The
current process for handling nonconforming applications is
through the granting of a variance, which requires determination
of a hardship. The PUD would encourage innovation of building
designs and would provide some incentives to the developer, who
in turn could offer increased amenities to the community. It
would also allow for negotiations throughout the development
process, and would give the City more stringent or detailed
controls where it may be necessary to do so.
The PUD allows for mixed use development and would allow a •
developer to apply for virtually any use. When an application
was received, the zoning district within the current ordinance
that most nearly parallels the use applied for would provide the
basic performance standards. If the application proposed a
variance from those standards, the developer would need to show
why it would be advantageous to the community and the project to
proceed as he requested. The City would then have the oportunity.
to weigh the variance of his proposal. There would be a great
deal of flexibility given to the City in terms of required
standards. The PUD would be reviewed and coordinated with the
subdivision regulations.
There are three stages in the PUD process as follows:
1. Sketch Plan Review. Before a great deal of time and
money is spent on behalf of the applicant, there would be an
initial consulation with the City Staff. This meeting would
provide the developer /builder with an idea as to the City's
concerns about development in a particular area. The applicant
would then go before the Planning Commission and Council with a
sketch plan. The Planning Commission and Council would give the
applicant some positive or negative feedback and some direction
as to how development should take place.
2. Concept Approval. It would be at this stage that the •
rezoning and planning and development would occur. Concept
approval corresponds with preliminary plat approval. By the time
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concept approval is given, the planning and development =zoning
would have already been granted. The density would have been
established. Once the applicant has achieved concept approval,
they would then obtain their final plat, engineering, architect,
civil engineering drawings, etc. When the applicant comes back
for final approval of the Planned Unit Development, that would be
the time they would submit their performance bond and detailed
engineering drawings. It would be during this concept stage that
the City's approval or non - approval would be determined.
Mayor Grabek asked how the PUD process varied from the
current process. Zoning Administrator Mabusth explained that the
current process was as specifically detailed in stages. The
current review process does not allow as much flexibility. The
PUD would provide for more staff input. Currently there are very
limited meetings or exchanges that occur between the applicant
and staff before the matter is heard by the Planning Commission.
Sharadlow stated that providing concerns, ideas and criticism
will allow the- applicant to more efficiently develop a concept
plan. If the applicant prepares a good concept plan, there
should be enough information presented to decide whether to
approve the application at that point.
Mayor Grabek asked if the PUD would replace the PRD? Mr.
• Shardlow stated that there was no intent for the PUD to be a
substitute to the PRD. However, the PUD does perform everything
the PRD would, plus some additional functions. Mabusth also
asked for clarification as to whether the Planned Residential
Development would be the same as the PUD, or would the PRD format
be allowed as well? City Administrator Bernhardson stated that
the City would need to decide whether they would repeal the PRD
or not. Grabek asked whether the PRD served the same purpose as
the PUD? Bernhardson replied not necessarily. There is not as
much flexibility or..input in a PRD. Shardlow explained that the
PRD allowed for some flexibility in density and provides for an
official acceptance or approval of private open space. A PUD
would allow for those functions in addition to others. Mayor
Grabek requested a comparison and suggestions as to whether both
the PRD and PUD would need to exist.
The revision and changing aspect of the PUD process has yet
to be addressed. The Planning Commission is not satisfied with
the current language proposed. There is general acceptance of
the idea that there be room for minor administrative changes
without the need to go back through.the entire process. The
current language says that minor changes in the location,
placement and height of structures may be authorized by the
Development Review Committee. The Development Review Committee
will be defined by ordinance as the City Administrator, Zoning
• Administrator and /or other persons as depicted by the City
Administrator. Shardlow said if this provision were not
included, the City would be operating in violation of the City's
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ordinance. The intent of this provision would be to allow for
changes that would not impact the area or performance standards.
Councilmember Callahan inquired as to whether the PUD would
take the place of the existing zoning districts within the City.
Shardlow clarified that the PUD would be available throughout the
City. Subdivision 2 spells out that any change in use or
rearrangement of lots or building tracts,'can only be approved by
a public hearing conducted by the City Council. The purpose of
this is that the final development plans would be recorded and
would become the zoning guideline that would run with the land.
There would be a performance guarantee provided and a performance
bond or letter of credit shall be required of the developer. The
Council may approve the concept plan and attach such conditions
as it deems reasonable. Approval shall require a four - fifths
vote of the entire Council. Callahan stated that in essence this
would be "spot zoning ".
Councilmember Nettles asked whether there was minimum
acreage that would be required in order for a PUD to be used.
Councilmember Callahan stated that 5 -acre minimum was proposed.
Mayor Grabek asked what would happen to a 5 -acre lot. Shardlow
stated that instead of having an application that would subdivide
the parcel one lot at a time, there would be the need to have a
development plan for the entire parcel. Grabek stated that the
current zoning ordinances allow only one structure on a 5 -a.cre
parcel. Shardlow stated that the PUD would allow someone to
apply for a commercial use in a 5 -acre residential area. The
Council could approve or not approve the application based upon
its merits. Mayor Grabek asked why that type of flexibility was
advantageous? Shardlow stated that one of the advantages would
be the opportunity to design development in accordance with the
land as opposed to having an arbitrary set of standards to every
piece of property., Mayor Grabek expressed his concern of a
City Council being able to allow commercial development in
residential areas with'only a 4 /5ths vote. Shardlow stated that
currently that could be done.
Mayor Grabek asked why the 5 -acre minimum was necessary?
Shardlow stated that the 5 -acres was intended to assure that
there would be enough land to provide for an integrated plan. He
added that the PUD would enhance the discretion of the City. It
would allow the City to regulate and discuss aspects of
development which are beyond the basic requirements of the
typical zoning ordinance. Shardlow stated that the City could
draft a design framework manual as a part of the PUD that would
regulate the building materials used within a building
development. Grabek asked to what percentage of available land
in Orono would the PUD apply. Mabusth replied that the
Navarre area and all along Highway 12 would apply. Shardlow
stated that the PUD could be used for redevelopment, not only •
initial development of an area.
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Councilmember Goetten asked whether the purpose of the 5-
acre minimum was to specifically prevent development unless 5
acres were available to do so? Shardlow responded that the
purpose of the 5 -acre was to achieve a more comprehensive
development of any area as opposed to a hodge -podge of 1 -acre
developments. It would defeat the purpose of the PUD if only a
1 -acre minimum was required. City Administrator Bernhardson
added that.the PUD could apply in any zoning district whether it
be 2 -acre, 1/2 -acre, etc. It is expected that there would be few
applications within the 2 and 5 acre zones unless the proposal
involved clustering the development as in a PRD application. The
5 -acre zone has no density significance with regard to the PUD.
The only requirement for the PUD is that there be a minimum 5-
acre assemblage of property. One reason the possibility of a 10-
acre minimum was discussed was because the overall PUD
development would need to have a plan for storm water, sewer,
water, etc. Shardlow interjected that the 5 -acre PUD would
require the developer to provide enough information to
demonstrate that those same objectives could be accomplished.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth inquired as to whether the PUD would
be a valuable tool for the development of Navarre? Shardlow
answered affirmatively.
Mayor Grabek asked Shardlow for the worst and best scenario
•involved in a hypothetical situation involving a PUD application
wherein several 1 or 2 acre residential lot were joined to meet
the 5 -acre minimum. Shardlow stated that a bad use of the PUD
would be excessive density on one piece of property where it was
inconsistent with the overall area. Shardlow said that could be
avoided by the Council not approving such�a plan. City
Administrator Bernhardson stated that not passing the PUD now
would not disallow a future council body from rezoning an area.
Councilmember Goetten stated that the current ordinances would
not allow such a plan to be approved. Callahan added that
there would be a less likely occurrence of such rezoning of
property if the PUD was not permitted. Shardlow. stated that a
good use of the PUD would be in the clustering of a development
on the land where it was best suited. Mayor Grabek asked if such
a plan would constitute a PRD? Shardlow stated that the PUD
could allow some increase in density.
Councilmember Goetten asked if, there would still be credits
for wetlands, etc.? Zoning Administrator Mabusth stated that
would apply if the property were sewered. The current PRD
ordinance does not give density credits, only the LR -lC1 district
provides for density credits. The PUD allows for better
development. Goetten stated the PUD would make it easier to deal
with the wetlands, ponding areas and soil conditions found in
Orono. Mr. Shardlow stated that the PUD proposal came about
because the Planning Commission wanted development controls put
in the B -6 District. Shardlow did not believe that would be
consistent with the limits of the City's authority. The Planning
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Commission wanted to guarantee quality and consistency. The PUD •
would allow that to happen. Mayor Grabek asked why a PRD would
not take care of,that? Shardlow stated that a PRD,only deals
with the density issue.
Mayor Grabek stated that he understood the need to focus
development in a certain area to benefit not only the land, but
the surrounding area. However, in his opinion, a PUD would give
the City the ability to control the density. The PRD would allow
the clustering of a development for the purpose of preserving
wetlands or other unique geographical conditions. Councilmember
Callahan stated that the PUD would allow f or a gas
station /grocery store on one acre and an apartment complex on
another acre, with a commercial office building. Mayor Grabek
stated that he understood the aspect of density, however, he did
not see where there would be controls or restrictions. Shardlow
stated that the PRD would only apply to residential property. A
PUD would apply to all types of property. The idea of the PUD
was to require an applicant for rezoning along the Highway 12
Corridor to present their design framework manual so that all
buildings and landscaping would meet certain standards prior to
approval. It would enhance the discretion that the City would
have for prior to approval.
Councilmember Goetten inquired as to whether there would be
any "loopholes" that would enable an undesireable development •
within the Orono Community if the PUD were allowed. Shardlow
stated that this ordinance would provide the City with a process
that would allow more guarantees and controls before development
begins. Mayor GrabekCasked why that could not be done without a
PUD? City Administrator Bernhardson explained that the PRD is
very limited in that it applies mainly to density. There are
PID's, PCD's and other such zoning designations in other Cities
that provide detailed controls for development. The PUD combines
the controls of all- those zoning districts and eliminates the
need to have more than one. The current PRD is not that
extensive. The PUD also allows for a mixed use development where
residential development could be integrated with office buildings
and other forms of commercial development.
Mayor Grabek asked whether the PUD could be designated for
use only within certain areas of Orono, such as Navarre and the
Highway 12 Corridor? Shardlow stated that conceptually he would
see no reason why such limitations could not be established.
Bernhardson suggested that a PUD in the 2 and 5 acre zones not be
allowed to increase the density credit. The other sewered areas
could be considered if allowing an increase in density credit
were desired. The primary purpose of the PUD is not to allow
increased density, but rather to allow better use and control.
Councilmember Nettles inquired as to whether Orono could
legislate the types of uses it would allow or disallow for a PUD.. •
Councilmember Callahan stated that he favored the idea of
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flexibility of setting standards for the PUD, but who would set
those standards. Shardlow said that the standards would be set
through the PUD process. The developer would proposes the
Planned Unit Development and-specific details would be ironed out
by the review and approval process. Shardlow continued to
explain that whatever use was applied for, all of the standards
in the zoning district that most closely alines with the use
applied for would be the base standards that would apply. All of
the present zoning standards would still exist, the PUD process
would enhance those standards.
Mayor Grabek stated that he needed more review time to
review all the ramifications of the PUD. He thanked Mr. Shardlow
for his input.
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Nettles, to table this matter at least until the October 24, 1988
Meeting. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
#1305 WASHINGTON SCIENTIFIC INDUSTRIES
2605 WAYZATA BLVD
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
RESOLUTION #2509
Mr. Joe Pallansch, a represenative from Washington
Scientific Industries, was present for this matter.
• City Administrator Bernhardson briefly outlined this
application as being a request for an on -site storage pond to
accomodate the drainage from the new addition. The storage site
has been approved by the M.C.W.D. There would be the need for
grading the soils along the west side of the property. Some of
this soil was contaminated and has been placed along the side of
the property. Handling of these soils will be covered under a
separate application..
It was moved by-Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Nettles, to adopt Resolution #2509. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O,
Motion passed.
#1340 WASHINGTON SCIENTIFIC INDUSTRIES
2605 WAYZATA BLVD.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - FIRST PHASE
RESOLUTION #2510
City Administrator Bernhardson explained that this
application was for the purpose of dealing with the contaminated
soils that were found on the property. Mayor Grabek asked how
long ago? Bernhardson replied approximately one year ago.
Washington Scientific promptly notified the Minnesota Pollution
Control Agency of the contaminated soils. However, the P.C.A.
did not inform the City of Orono of this problem.
• The solution for ridding the area of this contaminated soil
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involves two phases. The first phase would entail the digging of
a 24' deep trench through the contaminated area and underlying it
with tile. It would then be backfilled with appropriate
materials and would then undertake pumping of that area with
treatment of the waters for contamination. The water would go
into the sanitary sewer.
The second phase would involve treating the contaminated
soil that remains above ground.' The process of "airstripping"
would be used which involves treating the soil by thin spreading
it to allow evaporation of the organic solvent.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth stated that she had asked the
P.C.A. why they had not apprised the City of Orono of this
matter. Their response was that due to the cooperation and
openess on the part df Washington Scientific, they had not felt
it necessary to follow the formal permit process. However, they
will keep the City updated from here on out.
Councilmember Goetten stated that she had always felt that
Washington Scientific had been straightforward in dealing with
the City. She wanted assurance that the method of treating the
contaminated soil would not pose any problems. Councilmember
Nettles asked what the chemical was that they discovered in the
soil. Mr. Pallansch stated that it was in the same family as
drycleaning solvent. Nettles asked if it would leave any
residue? Mr. Pallansch responded negatively. Goetten asked
about the size of the area? Mabusth responded that it was
approximately 1/2 to 3/4 of an acre. The trench will be 200'
long 20' wide and 24'deep. Goetten asked whether the City would
oversee the process ?, Mabusth stated that the City would be a
part of the monitoring process. The engineering firm
representing Washington Scientific would be responsible for
keeping the City informed on a regular basis.
It was moved by;Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Nettles, to adopt Resolution #2510. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O,
Motion passed.
#1306 METRO WASTE CONTROL COMMISSION
3280 NORTH SHORE DRIVE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
RESOLUTION #2511
City Administrator Bernhardson explained that this item
involved the application for a conditional use permit and
variances for construction of a lift station. The proposed
structure has been revised to have a residential appearance as
opposed to a utility building. It will contain the underground
piping, together with the pumps and an emergency generator. The
generator would only be activated in the case of a power outage
or for the purpose of testing which will occur once a week for 20
minutes to half an hour.
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It was moved by Councilmember Callahan, seconded by Mayor
Grabek, to adopt Resolution #,:2511. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O,
Motion passed.
#1331 METRO WASTE CONTROL COMMISSION
3280 NORTH SHORE DRIVE
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION
RESOLUTION #2512
City Administrator Bernhardson explained that this
application was for the purpose of dividing off a portion of an
existing lot. The existing lot does currently have two
residential units. One unit will be removed and replaced with
the lift station. There would be an outlot of approximately
3,000 s.f. designated in an area where 21,000 is normally
required. However, the outlot would be for utility purposes
rather than residential purposes.
Mayor Grabek asked if there were any concerned parties.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth stated that the gentleman renting
the house on Lot 1 of the subdivision had indicated that he had
no problem with the proposal.
It was moved by Councilmember Callahan, seconded by Mayor
Grabek, to adopt Resolution #2512. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O,
Motion passed.
#1321 TOM HAISLET
950 OLD CRYSTAL BAY ROAD NORTH
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION
RESOLUTION 12513
The applicant,. Tom Haislet, was present for this matter.
Ms. Lucy Taylor, a member of the School Board, Mr. Bill
Fenholdt, School District Administration, and Mr. Tony Leung,
Attorney for the School District were also present.
City Administrator Bernhardson outlined this matter for the
Counci lmembers and Mayor Grabek. Mr. Hais let was representing
the School District in their purchase of property located at the
southeast corner of County Road 6 and Old Crystal Bay Road,
opposite the High School. Because of the School District
requirements pertaining to land acquisitions, they are only
buying the parcel a quarter at a time. This method of
acquisition required a four lot subdivision and because there are
four lots, a road outlot is required and has been designated.
The City of Orono will take underlying road and utility
easements, just as the City would do with any private road. Once
the School District has purchased the property within the 11 -year
time period, the City would vacate the easement. This
application is at the premliminary subdivision stage and there
will be an agreement drafted by the City Attorney and Mr. Tony
Leung, the Attorney for the School District.
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Zoning Administrator Mabusth reported that the applicant had .
reviewed the 8 concerns set forth in her memo that needed to be
included in the agreement. Items 3, 6 and 7 will be futher
defined and' worked on by the City Attorney and Mr. Leung with
staff's input." With regard to Item #2, Mabusth presented two
possible schemes of development of the eastern parcel. The
problem is the possibility of a developer coming in to the east
who will be expected to address a future road connection to the
proposed road outlot within the current development. The City
will be obligated to inform such a developer of that agreement
with the School Board.
Mr. Leung stated that the reason he -had asked Ms. Mabusth to
make that clarification was to verify the fact that the School
District would not be obligated to develop the road. There
cannot be a road running through the School's property for many
reasons, but mainly due to safety.
Mayor Grabek stated that the agreement would protect both
the City and School District.
It was moved by Councilmember Nettles, seconded by
Councilmember Goetten, to adopt Resolution #2513. Councilmember
Callahan inquired about the park and road fees required with all
subdivision applications. Zoning Administrator Mabusth stated
that the Planning Commission had overlooked the fees in their
attempt to resolve all of the aspects of this application.
Mabusth interpreted the Planning Commission's intentions would be
not to charge the School District for those fees. There was no
further discussion. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
#1324 MR. AND MRS. WILLIAM GREGORY
1099 TAMARACK DRIVE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
RESOLUTION #2414
Mr. Clifford Reep, from Minnetonka Portable Dredging was
present on behalf of'the applicants.
City Administrator Bernhardson explained that the applicants
were seeking a conditional use permit to excavate an existing
wetland to create a wildlife pond. All of the dredging or
grading that would be done would be retained on the property.
Even though the wetlands are being enlarged and deepened, there
willl be no increase in the ponding area. Because of the
configuration, it will lessen the storm ponding area by 9 %. When
dealing with ponding, it is the outlet that determines the amount
of storage, not the depth of the pond. The ponding area would
still have capacity to handle the 100 -year storm.
Mayor Grabek asked whether this would disturb the wetland
area? Bernhardson replied that it would be disturbing the
wetlands, but the applicants have received approval from the
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Watershed District. Garbek asked if this was the same
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application that had been reviewed 4 years ago? Bernhardson
replied that it was the same applicants, but a different
location. Mayor Grabek asked if the other pond was ever
excavated? Zoning Administrator Mabusth responded that the
Gregorys had built one of the two other ponds.
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Goetten, to- accept the conditional use permit, Resolution #2514.
Councilmember Callahan inquired about future development of any
additional ponds. 'Mr. Reep stated that he did not know of any
future plans. There were no further comments. Motion, Ayes =4,
Nays =O, ' Motion passed.
#1325 LAKEVIEW GOLF OF ORONO
405 NORTH ARM DRIVE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
RESOLUTION #2515
City Administrator Bernhardson explained that this
application. involved after - the -fact approval of maintenance of
two ditches and creation of a pond that was done in 1985, as well
as approving the current application to construct 3 new ponds and
relocate a tee box.
There was some confusion on behalf of the applicant with
regard to the after - the -fact approval for the work done in 1985.
Assistant Planning and Zoning Administrator Gaffron explained
that the work done back in 1985 had received approval from the
Planning Commission, but had never received formal approval from
the City Council.
Bernhardson resumed his explanation of the current
application. He stated that the proposed locations for the ponds
were not within any wetland area. The reason approval is
required is due to the amount of dirt that is being moved.
Gaffron added that the main reason the tee box is being relocated
is because of complaints received from an adjacent property
owner.
It was moved by'Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Goetten, to adopt Resolution #2515. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O,
Motion passed.
#1332 MARCELO GUMUCIO
980 FERNDALE ROAD WEST
VARIANCE
RESOLUTION #2516
Mr. Gumucio was not present for this matter, nor was his
agent from Arteka, Inc.
City Administrator informed the Council that Mr. Gumucio was
• seeking an after - the -fact variance for the construction of
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driveway pillars that exceed the 3 -1/2 limit. They do conform •
with the required width to allow for emergency vehicle access.
Bernhardson asked Gaffron to confirm that the problems with this
application were due to Mr. Gumucio's agent. Gaffron affirmed
that observation and added that the - problem stemmed from a
misinterpretation of the City's codes.
Councilmember Goetten questioned the hardship that had been
indicated concerning the need for lighting: If indeed that was
the hardship, why then were the lights not being utilized?
Gaffron responded that there were integral lighting fixtures
halfway down each pillar that would be used immediately. The
applicant was asking that opportunity be reserved for the future
to place lights on top of each pillars should it be determined
that more light was necessary. Goetten stated that she was not
against the pillars, but she did not find the hardship to be
worthy.
Assistant Planning and Zoning Administrator Gaffron stated
that the pillars were up and they did 'not seem to be imposing
upon the surrounding area. The Planning Commission had
recommended., approval with a 4 to 1 vote. The one vote against
was due to a believed lack of any true hardship.
It was moved by Councilmember Nettles, seconded by Mayor
Grabek, to adopt Resolution #2516. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O, •
Motion passed.
11333 SIDNEY REBERS
715 NORTH BROWN ROAD
REZONING
RESOLUTION #2525
City Administrator Bernhardson explained that this
application involved the rezoning of a 32 acre parcel of land
from the current rural, non - sewered 2 acre lot to a sewered 1
acre lot. Mr. Steve -Pf laum and Mr. Robert Rost from BRW, were
present as respresentatives for Mr. Rebers, who was also present.
Mr. Steve Pf laum updated the City Council with respect to
the Rebers application. He informed them that the application
was being presented in two sections, the rezoning and the
subdivision. He reiterated Bernhardson's explanation of the
proposed rezoning. The project hinges upon the approval to
connect with a sewer interceptor. The Planning Commission had a
sketch plan review of both proposals and had recently approved
the rezoning application. There will be a number of conditions
that will be set forth in a developer's agreement. Prior to the
public hearing for the rezoning, Mr. Kost met with Planning
Commission Chairman Kelley and other Planning Commission members
for the purpose of making a list of items to be addressed at the
public hearing concerning the conditional use permit and PRD.
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•Mr. Pf laum explained that the property is approximately 40
acres, only 32 acres will be addressed at this time. The
southerly 7 acres are scheduled for commercial development at a
later time. The 32 acres being reviewed for rezoning are,heavily
wooded and have considerable steep slopes. The objective of the
rezoning is to have a sewered subdivision with minimum
destruction of the trees.,, The PRD concept is to try to preserve
a buffer around the perimeter of the development. The 32 acres
would contain 25 lots and will have single access. The proposal
was for a large cul -de -sac, however, the Planning Commission
preferred that the road be looped for the purposes of emergency
access. There would be no connection to other roads around the
site. The Planning Commission also requested that an outlot be
designated for the ultimate construction of a frontage road to
access the commercial section of the parcel. The proposal was
developed in such a way that it would meet the current zoning
ordinances and the proposed ordiances involved with the Highway
12 Corridor.
Mr. Robert Kost showed the Councilmembers and Mayor Grabek
the topography of the parcel which depicted the unique
characteristics that were considered when the plan was developed.
The Rebers' parcel is surrounded on the east, west and north side
by rural residential property in the 2 -5 acre densities. The
south side of the property is zoned commercial. The lowest point
•on the property is 9941. Drainage occurs off of a ridge and'some
runs into upper Dickey Lake, the majority of runoff runs through
a swale and ends up at a culvert at the corner of North Brown
Road and Highway 12. The site access will either be at the top
of the `hi 11 on North Brown Road or at the bottom.
Mr. Kost brief ly addressed the proposed subdivision. The
main objective of the subdivision will be the preservation of as
many trees as possible. There are not many mature maple tree
forests left within the Minneapolis Metropolitan area. The PRD
will allow for the creation of a large open space that will be
deeded to a homeowner's association that will be anywhere from
50' to 100' in width and surrounds the entire site. There will
be heavy restrictions pertaining to tree removal placed on this
section through covenants. The covenants would also prohibit
site grading and building within that protected area. There will
also be preservation measures developed to protect the trees
around each building pad on each lot. Sewering this property
will also alleviate the need to remove trees to install mound
systems. The type of soils on the parcel are not conducive to
septic systems. Calculations were made to compare the amount of
tree removal necessary on a 2 -acre lot with septic versus a 1-
acre lot with sewer. With septic systems and 15 2 -acre lots,
207,600 s.f. of tree removal would be required. With 25 1 -acre,
sewered lots, 175,000 s.f. of tree removal would be necessary.
Mr. Kost showed a sketch plan depicting an image of how the lots
• would be developed. Placing the homes on a cul -de -sac will also
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allow for more tree preservation.
Mr. Rost stated that one of the two major points in favor of
the rezoning is the transition that will occur between the
commercial and residential zoning. The 1 -acre PRD with the
buffer perimeter will lend itself better to abutting commercial
property than the 2 -acre rural residential zoning. The other
point is that this proposal is consistent with the Highway 12
Corridor, which has served as the underlying, framework for this
plan. ,
Councilmember Callahan asked for clarification as to where
the proposed rezoning will occur. Mr. Rost indicated on the
sketch where the dividing line between the commercial zoning and
the proposed 1 -acre zoning would occur. Callahan stated that he
was impressed with the proposal asked whether there were any
neighbors present who wished to express their view point. Mr.
Robbin Sentell, 736 Dickey Lake Drive, addressed the Council.. He
agreed that the development plan was laid out very well. His
only concern involved a potential connection of the cul -de -sac
with Pine Ridge Lane. Since that was not being proposed, he had
no objections to the proposal. Callahan expressed his opinion of
having the subdivision and rezoning applications heard
simultaneously.
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Councilmember Goetten thought that the development was going •
to be very attractive and utilized the area quite well. Her
concerns involved traffic, Brown Road and a buffer between this
development and the property owners to the north.
Councilmember Nettles stated that he liked the concept of
transition from Highway 12 to this residential development. He
questioned where the private road would loop should it be
required to do so, or in the alternative, where an emergency
vehicle access would be located? Mr. Rost stated that there
would be two possible locations for the emergency access. One
would be off of Highway 12, the other would be Pine Ridge.
Nettles questioned the need for such an access and asked the City
Attorney about the City's liability requirements. City Attorney
Barrett responded that there has been increased litigation
arising with regard to road designs. The zoning ordinances that
would control this development, discourage cul -de -sacs. However,
a variance would not be required if approval of the cul -de -sac
were given. City Administrator Bernhardson added that the issue
of the cul -de -sac is one that will be addressed under the
guidelines of the subdivision.
Councilmember Callahan asked Mr. Pflaum if there was a
significant reason why the rezoning needed approval at this
meeting, as opposed to waiting until the subdivision was
presented for a vote? Mr. Pf laum stated that the subdivision
issues were complicated so if the rezoning portion of the plan •
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could be voted upon and put aside it would help keep the process
moving. 1
It was moved by Councilmember Callahan, seconded by
Councilmember Goetten, to adopt Resolution #2525. Motion,
Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
#1338 DUANE & CONNIE SCHIBILLA
3235 CRYSTAL BAY ROAD
VARIANCES
RESOLUTION #2517
The applicants were present for this matter.
City Administrator Bernhardson explained that this
application involved a request to construct a 241x 26' two - story,
two -car garage. This garage would replace a previous garage that
was destroyed in the July 1987 "Super Storm ". The main issue
involved with this matter is whether a 33' easement in favor of
the City of Orono exists on the property. Assistant Planning and
Zoning Administrator Gaffron added that the Schibil la's attorney
is working to find out whether the easement is a mistake. The
City Attorney has examined the records for this property and has
determined that the easement could be a mistake. If the
Schibilla's attorney determines that the easement exists, the
Schibillas would need to go through a Proceeding Subsequent to
remove the easement from title. At that time, the City would
need to determine whether they were interested in maintaining the
easement or if they would prefer to vacate it. The issues
regarding the size of the proposed garage and the hardcover still
need to be addressed. The staff's recommendations are that any
action to approve this application be conditioned upon deferring
issuance of a building permit until the easement matter is
resolved.
Mr. Schibilla stated that it was highly questionable whether
the easement exists. He has seen surveys and legal descriptions
of adjacent property and the easement does not exist on those
properties. Originally, the applicants' property, was two
separate parcels. On one description, the easement is indicated,
on the second parcel, there is language that allows for the right
to create an easement. If the City does have an easement, Mr.
Schibilla believed it would only be 33' x 151. The City will
have to decide whether or not they want the easement. He wanted
the Council to decide that issue immediately so he could commence
with the construction of the garage. If there is an easement,
and the City decides it does not want to vacate it, Mr. Schibilla
would not have another location for his garage. All of the
neighboring properties have garages that are located in such a
• way that they too would be on the 33' easement.
Mayor Grabek asked about the ramifications allowing Mr.
Schibilla to build if in fact the easement did exist. Gaffron
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stated that the City Attorney had advised against the City
allowing a structure on a public easement. City Attorney Barrett
added that. the City would have to abandon the easement. Grabek
asked about the easement extending on the properties to the east
of the Schibillas'. Gaffron stated that the existence of the
easement on neighboring properties appeared sporadically. Grabek
asked how that would affect the City. Barrett stated that the
City would need to condemn the property where the easement did
not exist in order to make the easement continuous and
accessible. Mayor Grabek inquired whether it would be in the
City's interest to keep the easement since it is sporadic? Mayor
Grabek asked if the Schibi 1 la's previous garage was located in
the same place? Gaffron answered in the affirmative. Grabek
asked if the proposed garage would be in line with the
neighboring garages? Gaffron replied that it would, and added
that all of the garages are accessed by the gravel road within
the railroad property.
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Councilmember Callahan observed that should Crystal Bay
Road be closed and the Railroad not grant an easement to the
property owners, the City may need to retain the 33' public
easement. Councilmember Goetten stated that she had the same
concern. Mr. Schibilla stated that allowing him to build a
garage would not mean that the City was giving up its easement.
City Attorney Barrett said there would be the question of whether
allowing the construction of the garage would mean the City was
abandonning the easement. He suggested that there may be a
document that could be drafted to address that.
Mayor Grabek asked Mr. Schibilla if he intended to build his
garage yet this year? Mr. Schibilla stated that he was ready to
go. Councilmember Goetten reiterated her concern over the lack
of accessibility,. should Crystal Bay Road be closed.
Councilmember Callahan suggested the possibility of a lease
agreement that would require razing the garage if a determination
were made that the easement did in fact exist. City Attorney
Barrett said that the problem is that allowing the construction
to take -place, without determining whether the easement exists
would mean the City would have to abandon it rights. Mayor
Grabek inquired as to how the City could enter into a lease if
ownership was not certain. Councilmember Callahan stated that
the lease would be a written indication that if the easement did
exist, the City did not intend to abandon it. The lease would
provide the stipulation that if the easement did exist and the
City decided to put a road through in that area, Mr. Schibilla
would tear down his garage.
City Administrator Bernhardson suggested another
alternative, which would be building the garage just off of the
easement. There is no required setback from the easement. •
However, the topography may be a problem and there would be an
increase in hardcover. Mrs. Schibilla added that it would also
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require removal of trees. Mr. Bill Wolfe, a neighbor of the
Schibillas' further added that the garage would not be in line
with the neighboring garages. The proposed location for the
garage makes the most sense. Mr. John Nelson, the Schibillas'
contractor stated that the pre- existing garage was closer to the
railroad property than the new structure would be.
Mayor Grabek stated that if a lease could be drafted to
address the potential easement situation, he would be in favor of
the application. Councilmember Callahan concurred.
It was moved by Councilmember Callahan, seconded by Mayor
Grabek, to approve the application #1338, and adopt Resolution
#2517, conditioned upon the drafting of an agreement between the
City of Orono and the Schibillas. The agreement shall provide
that if a public easement is found to exist on the Schibilla
property, and if the City of Orono ever decides to construct a
road on that easement, the Schibillas will raze their garage.
Councilmember Goetten asked how this would be handled. City
Attorney Barrett stated that if a Proceeding Subsequent ensued,
the City would need to go into Court and declare its interest.
Assistant Planning and Zoning Administrator Gaffron reminded the
Council and Mayor Grabek that the application involved a two-
story accessory structure. He added that the'proposed Resolution
placed conditions on approval that prohibited using the other
level for a dwelling and that plumbing could not be installed.
The Planning Commission approved the application, citing
topography as the hardship. There will be hardcover at 39.6% in
the 75' to 250', which is essentially the same as the previous
garage. Gaffron asked whether the language within the Resolution
needed to be changed to state that there will be an agreement
that could take effect as soon as it is drafted and executed.
Mayor Grabek stated that was correct. Councilmember Goetten
stated that she would like to see no additional hardcover in the
future. Mayor Grabek stated that the City should handle the
drafting of the agreement to assure that it contains the
necessary provisions. Mayor Grabek asked from where the funding
would come? City Administrator Bernhardson stated that the
applicant would have to pay for anything over and above the
initial application fee. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
#1341 DANIEL R. VAUGHAN & TODD ZIESMER
3440 BAYSIDE ROAD
VARIANCE
RESOLUTION #2518
Todd Ziesmer, one of the applicants, was present for this
matter.
City Administrator Bernhards'on explained that the
applicants were seeking a lot width variance to construct a home.
The portion of the lot where the structure is proposed to be
built is shaped like a pan handle. The lot width in that area is
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118' where 200' would be required. The concerns expressed by the
neighboring property owner did not pertain to the side yard
setbacks, but rather sight lines. Assistant Planning and Zoning
Administrator Gaffron stated that the neighbor to the east had
asked that house be moved northward approximately 10 to 151. He
felt that he could work with the applicant on this issue as
opposed to requiring specific language within the Resolution.
Councilmember Callahan asked Mr. Ziesmer about the concerns
of his neighbor. Mr. Ziesmer stated that he did not foresee any
problems in working with his neighbor to resolve their
differences.
Councilmember Goetten inquired about the septic system.
Gaffron stated that Mr. Ziesmer had the required testing done for
the purpose of placing a septic system on the property. However,
if the City should determine that City sewer would be installed
in that area, he would like to have a holding tank installed as
opposed to paying the cost of a full septic system.
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Nettles, to adopt Resolution #2518. Motion,
Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed..
#1342 DAVID & VALERIE PETERSON .
1125 NORTH ARM DRIVE
VARIANCE
RESOLUTION 12519
Mr. Peterson was present for this matter.
City Administrator Bernhardson informed the Council and
Mayor Grabek that this application involved the request for a
side setback variance in order to construct a detached garage.
The original proposal was to build the garage only 1' away from
the neighboring side property line. The Planning Commission had
requested the applicant revise his proposal so that the garage
would be 5' from the neighboring property.
Councilmember Goetten commented that she had visited the
site and in her opinion, the proposed location for the garage was
the only suitable location due to the extreme slopes.
It was moved by Councilmember Callahan, seconded by Mayor
Grabek, to adopt Resolution #2519. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O,
Motion passed.
MAYOR'S REPORT:
ORONO /LONG LAKE DISCUSSIONS*
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Nettles, that the Council accepts the information
regarding the Orono /Long Lake discussions. Motion, Ayes =4,
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Nays =O, Motion passed.
APPOINTMENT PARK COMMISSION MEMBERS
City Administrator Bernhardson explained that back in 1985
the City Council decided to increase the number of Park
Commission members from seven to eight. The ordinance was never
changed to reflect that change. Currently there are three
vacancies within the Park Commission and three persons have
expressed interest in filling those positions. The Council could
either choose to appoint all three persons and amend the
ordinance or only choose two members, which would allow the
ordinance to remain as is.
Councilmember Callahan indicated that Mr. Richard Flint was
a professional partner and therefore he would abstain from voting
in this matter. Councilmember Goetten stated the Mr. Flint had
contacted her and expressed his concerns about the bike /hike
trail. She was,in favor of Mr. Flint being appointed to fill one
of the vacancies. She added however, that if there were three
interested persons and three vacancies that all interested
persons should be allowed to serve. Councilmember Nettles
concurred.
• It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Goetten, to amend the ordinance to allow for eight Park
Commission members, and to appoint Richard Flint, James Gilbert
and Alexander Vongries to the Park Commission. Motion, Ayes =3,
Nays =O, Councilmember Callahan abstained. Motion passed.
CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT:
RECYCLING PROPOSALS
City Administrator Bernhardson reported that the City of
Orono has been participating in the West Hennepin Recycling which
has provided drop -off sites for several communities in this area.
There is a proposal to undertake curb -side pick up. The
question, however, is the costs involved with curb -side pick up.
The City has contacted two firms, Super Cycle of Minneapolis and
Polka Dot Recycling of Buffalo. At this time, Super Cycle would
be the most economical.
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One of the two areas that need to be addressed is the
acquisition of containers. Most of the communities that have
curb -side recycling have funded the acquisition of the containers
which are approximately $7.00 each. Public Works Director
Gerhardson stated that the containers are large enough where the
City would only need one. Hennepin County would reimburse Orono
$2.00 for each container. If one container were purchased, the
overall cost would be approximately $13,000.00 per year; two
• containers would be $26,000.00.
The other aspect to be reviewed would be the operation
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itself. If the City were to contract with Super Cycle, the
initial cost for one year would be $26,000.00. However, Hennepin
County would reimburse 50%-80%, which would mean a net operating
expense between $6,000.00 and $13,000.00 to the City of Orono on
an ongoing basis.
This matter was being presented as information for future
consideration. The costs mentioned above have not been included
in the 1989 Budget.
.Councilmember Goetten stated that she have received a phone
call from Mary Frank who was very conerned about a community
recycling program. Goetten added that she too had been an
advocate for recycling. She believed that the City needed to
take a leadership role in establishing a recycling program.
Ms. Beth Peterson, 2625 Fox Street, stated that she was very
concerned about recycling and had attended the meeting purely for
the purpose of hearing what the Council intended to do.
City Administrator Bernhardson stated that originally it was
thought that drop -off recycling would be the only feasible
method, because the cost, especially in rural areas of curb -side
could be very expensive. He was surprised to find out how •
economical curb -side pick up could be. The Communities of Mound,
Maple Plain and Minnetonka Beach have undertaken curb -side
recyling. Public Works Director Gerhardson stated that they were
also looking into the possibility of having pick -up in the
location where the garbage would be picked up. If Super Cycle
were used, the cost would be the same for such pick -up as opposed
to curb -side pick up. City Administrator Bernhardson stated that
if at a later date, there was a cost differential, it would be
very difficult to go back to just curb -side pick up. Public
Works Director Gerhardson stated that Super Cycle would only pick
up aluminum, glass and newspaper. Bernhardson inquired as to
whether West Hennepin would still be maintaining the drop -off
sites? Gerhardson replied that the City could enter into an
agreement for drop -off sites with whomever was performing the
curb -side pick up.
Ms. Peterson asked whether there had been any effort made to
get commercial properties involved with recycling? Gerhardson
stated that the commercial aspect of recycling was just getting
underway. Bernhardson added that at one time the City could
include the-corrugated paper, etc. from various commercial
entities in its overall tonnage. However, the County wants the
commercial recycling segregated from the residential. Gerhardson
stated that was a reason why the required percentage for
recycling in 1989 dropped from 13% to 10 %. However, by 1990, the
County wants an overall 16% residential recycling achievement. •
Councilmember Goetten asked whether Orono was recycling 10% of
their overa1 1 garbage? Gerhardson stated that it was difficult
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to determine how Orono was performing, but overall, the
communities are doing -very well, with each community averaging
only 1% or 2% short of the expectation.
It was moved' by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Nettles, to table this item until October 24, 1988
Council Meeting. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
BUDGET ADOPTION /1989 TAX LEVY
City Administrator Bernhardson stated that this item was for
the purpose of adopting the General Fund Budget for 1989 and
establishing a tax levy for 1989. Information was presented to
the Council and Mayor Grabek concerning the costs involved with
legal prosecution costs and citation and fine revenues. Based on
6 -month data for 1988, the principal costs are being driven by
the number of citations from 1985 to 1988 that have been
processed for Orono have doubled and so have the fines and
forfeitures. However, our legal costs have more than doubled.
This was due in part to the hourly rates being billed by Popham,
Haik were lower than the hourly rates for which the City was
currently being billed. Had we been billed at the current level
we were being charged, back in 1986, our legal costs would have
been 34% higher. The ratio of prosecution rates to fines in 1986
Would have been the same as those projected in 1988. The
rinciple reason both fine revenues and prosecution costs are up
is due to the Police Officers issuing substantially more
citations.
Councilmember Goetten asked for this to be tabled so she
would have further review time.
City Administrator Bernhardson mentioned that the two items
could be separated and voted upon separately. He added that
there were two changes 'to be made in the proposed 1989 Budget.
One item was the possibility of $100,000.00 being included in the
budget from the General Fund in order to allow for more
flexibility; and the conversion of the recorder position. from a
part -time to a full -time position.
Councilmember Goetten inquired whether recycling costs would
need to be addressed for the proposed Budget. Bernhardson stated
that would be a reason to table the budget portion of this item.
Councilmember Callahan inquired as to why the tax levy would not
be affected by the Budget? Bernhardson stated that the
recommendation was to levy the maximum allowed in order to retain
flexibility. If the City chooses not to spend that, it could be
adjusted in future years.
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
0allahan, to table the 1989 Budget, but adopt the tax levy of
1,352,690 together with $30,000.00 for the deficit for the
Crystal Bay Sewer. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
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CITY FACILITIES - SITE CRITERIA •
Councilmember Callahan surmised that the information with
which he was presented was the criteria that may be applied for
selecting a site. _City Administrator Bernhardson agreed and
added that in taking any proposed site, the criteria with which
the council was asked to weigh, would be used to determine
whether the proposed site would be adequate. Callahan asked how
the process would work once they received the feedback from the
Council. Bernhardson stated that the site planners presented the
City with a list of criteria that were usually considered when
choosing a new building site. The City staff and Planning
Commission evaluated the list and made deletions and additions to
that list. This information was now being presented to the
Council and Mayor Grabek for their consideration, deletions and
additions as to what they would like taken into consideration
when determining a site for a new facility..
Councilmember Callahan asked whether there were actual,
physical sites that were being considered? Bernhardson responded
that the sites being considered were the Crystal Bay area or the
location by the sewer ,plant. Callahan suggested having the site
planners choose a site they feel is best and then approach the
Council for feedback. Councilmember Goetten stated that it was
her understanding that the site planners were to meet with each
Councilmember individually. Bernhardson stated that the time •
element began to be a problem and that presenting the criteria
list was a part of that process. Goetten stated that she agreed
with Callahan, in that she would not know which of the proposed
sites was best unless she weighed the pros and cons of each site.
Bernhardson stated that the site planners were attempting to
gather criteria to weigh the sites.
Councilmember Nettles said that one of the Orono Police
Officers had approached him and suggested that the Police
Department be more central.ly located because of the long response
time to get to ShorelinetDrive. He did not know if that was
already addressed within the criteria, but if not, he would add
police response time under "Functional Relationship to other
Services and Uses" Goetten observed that perhaps that was why
the present City Hall location and the Old Crystal Bay Road were
favored more than the Highway 12 area. Mayor Grabek interjected
that the police were not always responding to a call from the
Police Station, response time would be from a street location.
Bernhardson stated that issue would be critical if it were going
to apply to the fire station.
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Nettles, to adopt the site criteria for the site analysis of City
Facilities and the Council directs staff to explore substituting
the site at the southwest corner of Old Crystal Bay Road and
Highway 12 for the site on Brown Road. Councilmember.Callahan •
asked whether this proposal included removing this site from
consideration and adding the site on Highway 12? Bernhardson
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• CITY FACILITIES -SITE CRITERIA CONTINUED
clarified that it was up to the Council. Mayor Grabek stated
that he wanted to see how all three sites faired. Bernhardson
stated that there were additional costs involved with each site
evaluated. Callahan stated that he seriously objected to the
removal of the Brown Road site from consideration. Goetten and
Nettles concurred. 'Mayor Grabek amended his - motion to exploring
the three possible sites, Councilmember Nettles seconded.
Motion, Ayes =4, Motion passed.
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Nettles, to adopt the site criteria for the site analysis of City
Facilities. Motion, Ayes =3, Callahan, Nay. Motion passed.
AMEND COUNCIL SALRIES
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Nettles, to have the Council and Mayor salaries remain the same.
Councilmember Goetten inquired as to whether these salaries had
been raised in the past? City Administrator Bernhardson replied
that that they had been raised 2 years ago. There was no further
discussion. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
HIGHWAY 12 TASK FORCE
City Administrator Bernhardson reported that the direction
of the Task Force, subsequent to a meeting in Delano, is now to
•request MNDOT to spend engineering time to develop a maximum
highway within the existing right -of -way and to request that
MNDOT determine a layout along the existing alignment. This
would provide people with information as to what each of those
option would entail. It would not indicate support for either of
those options, but would be for information only.
Councilmember Callahan agreed that the more information
available, the better. Councilmember Goetten added that Highway
12 was of great concern to the citizens of Orono.
It was moved by Councilmember Callahan, seconded by Mayor
Grabek, to indicate its support for the request since the request
would not in any way bind the City to support of any particular
option, but only to gain information as to options that may be
realistic. In addition to requesting MNDOT to do work to
determine the maximum within the current corridor and impact of a
four lane on the current alignment, the City desires as
appropriate that MNDOT begin work to develop alternative
corridors for Highway 12. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
LOCAL PROPERTY TAX SYSTEM
City Bernhardson explained that there had been a request
from the Association of Metropolitan Municipalities to obtain
financial support from Orono to contribute toward the development
•of data and proposals for the 1989 Legislature to try to make the
current property tax system more rational. Most of the larger
communities have committed to contribute approximately $2,000.00,
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LOCAL PROPERTY TAX SYSTEM CONTINUED
the smaller communities, $500.00. Bernhardson recommended that
the City contribute up to $500.00. There was also a proposed
Resolution from the City of Brooklyn Park encouraging the
Legislature to undertake a reform of the property tax and State
aid system. If it was the Council's desire to do so, a similar
resolution could be sent *from Orono to the Legislature.
Mayor Grabek stated that making sense of the tax system
would be money well spent. He also would not object to sending a
resolution to the Legislature. Councilmember Goetten concurred,
especially if the efforts - proved to be beneficial to Orono.
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Nettles, to contribute up to $500.00 for the funding of a
Property Tax Data System development together with the adoption
of Resolution #2535 urging the legislature to take a
comprehensive review of the property tax system in the State of
Minnesota. Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
ANIMAL PERMIT ORDINANCE
City Administrator reviewed this item. The. question is
whether to delete the ordinance or implement a system to monitor
and regulate the ordinance. The zoning ordinances regulate the •
ownership of animals other than dogs or cats, but does not offer
much control.
'\— Mayor Grabek stated that he could go either way.
Councilmember Goetten stated that she did not want to see Orono
._ ,/get so restrictive that it would discourage people from having
animals other than dogs or cats. .She inquired as to whether
there had been past problems in this regard. Bernhardson replied
that there had been few complaints.
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Nettles, to delete the Animal Ordinance No. 9.13,
subd. 7, entitled "Animals and Fowl - Keeping, Transporting,
Treatment, Housing ". Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
RULES FOR DEPOSITORY
Mayor Grabek questioned whether the Investment Policy Draft
had been sent to the City Auditors for their review. City
Administrator Bernhardson stated that had not been.
Councilmember Callahan suggested having the Auditor's comments
by the October 24,, 1988 Council Meeting. Mayor Grabek stated
that he would like to see a letter from the Auditor indicating
his approval for this proposal.
It was moved by Councilmember Callahan, seconded by Mayor
Grabek, to table this itme until the October 24, 1988 Council •
Meeting. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays. =0, Motion passed.
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NAVARRE CROSSWALK*
It was moved. by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Nettles, to direct staff to notify Hennepin County
that the City of Orono is requesting a crosswalk be allowed at or
near its present -location in the Navarre Business Area dependent
upon the location of the MTC bus shelter in the Navarre Business
Area. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
CRYSTAL BAY ROAD*
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by.
Councilmember Nettles, that staff be directed to place this item
for discussion on the agenda for the October 24, 1988 Council
Meeting. Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
BOHNS POINT FEASIBILITY STUDY*
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Nettles, to withdraw the feasibility study for the
upgrade of Bohn's Point Road.' Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
HAZARDOUS BUILDING PROCEEDINGS
2180 PROSPECT
RESOLUTION, #2521
City Administrator Bernhardson explained that the house at
•2180 Prospect had been in a deteriorating state for a number of
years. The house is no longer occupied. One of the basement
walls has caved in and there are several other structural and
environmental problems with the house. The City would like to
initiate hazardous building proceedings.
It was moved by Councilmember Callahan, seconded by
Councilmember Nettles, to adopt Resolution #2521. Motion,
Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
MOUND FIRE CONTRACT* .
It was moved by-, Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Nettles, to approve the revised language for the
Contract for Fire Service withthe City of Mound and to approve
the 1989 cost to Orono of $53,425.00. Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion
passed.
ASSESSMENT ROLL
DELINQUENT CHARGES /PAYMENTS RESOLUTION #2522*
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Nettles, to adopt Resolution #2522, adopting the'
assessment roll for hazardous Building Actions, 1988., Ayes =4,
Nays =O, Motion passed. — -
HAZARDOUS BUILDINGS RESOLUTION 12523*
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
•Councilmember Nettles, to adopt Resolution #2523, providing' 'for
the collection of delinquent charges for 1988 sewer and water
utility services and annual septic inspection program fees.
Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
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UTILITY /SEPTIC CHARGES RESOLUTION #2524*
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Nettles, to adopt Resolution #2524, providing for
the collection of delinquent Developers' Fees and Alarm Users'
fees in the amount of $1,957.6:9 and to add 10.0% interest to the
amounts due, effective November, 1988. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O,
Motion passed. '
ADMINISTRATOR'S INFORMATION*
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Nettles, to accept the City Administrator's
Information regarding: Woodhill Avenue; County 15 Progress;
Orono /Minnetonka Beach Interceptor Progress; 3508 Ivy Place;
County 15 Beautification; Michael Rirnyczuk; and Goal Setting.
Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT:
There was no report from the City Attorney.
LICENSES*
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Nettles, to approve the following license:
Home Occupation License - Patricia R. Fitzpatrick
2845 Watertown Road
Long Lake, MN 55356 •
Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed. '
BILLS*
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Nettles, to approve payment of the All Funds
Accounts. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
EXECUTIVE SESSION - 9:55 P.M.
City Administrator Bernhardson requested that the Council go
into an executive session at 9:55 p.m.
ADJOURNMENT 10:00 P.M.
It was moved by Councilmember Nettles, seconded by
Councilmember Callahan, to adjourn the Regular Council Meeting at
10:00 p.m. Motion, Ayes =4, Nays =O, Motion passed.
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Jam s R. Grabek, Mayor
Barbara A. Peterson, Acting Mayor
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