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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR ORONO COUNCIL MEETING HELD AUGUST 25, 1986
ATTENDANCE 7:01 P.M.
The Orono Council met on the above date with the
following members present: Acting Mayor Adams,
Councilmembers Grabek, Frahm, and Callahan. Mayor
Butler was absent. The following represented the City
staff: City Administrator Bernhardson, Public Works
Coordinator Gerhardson, Chief of Police Kilbo, Building
& Zoning Administrator Mabusth, and City Recorder
Peterson. City Attorney Elizabeth Thompson was also
present.
OATH OF OFFICE
CONSENT AGENDA*
Chief Ki 1 bo introduced newly appointed Police Officer
Mark Moran. He reported that Mr. Moran is 33 years old
and has two children; has served 4 years with Medina
and 2 years with Hazen, ND Police Departments before
being hired in Orono; and has had all required
schooling.
City Administrator Bernhardson administered the Oath of
Office to newly appointed Police Officer Mark Moran.
It was moved by Councilmember Frahm, seconded by
Councilmember Callahan, to approve the Consent Agenda*
subject to removal of Item #17 (Contract Revision -
Dahlgren, Shardlow & Uban) per Acting Mayor Adam's
request. Motion, Ayes 4, Nays 0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
It was moved by Acting Mayor Adams, seconded by
Councilmember Frahm, to approve the Revised Minutes of
the July 28, 1986 Council meeting as submitted. Motion,
Ayes 4, Nays 0.
It was moved by Councilmember Frahm, seconded by
Councilmember Callahan, to approve the Minutes of the
August 11, 1986 Council meeting as submitted. Motion,
Ayes 4, Nays 0.
PARK COMMISSION COMMENTS
PARK COMMISSION CHAIR RESIGNATION - BARB PETERSON*
There were no comments from the Park Commission at this
time.
Per City Administrator Bernhardson's memo, Barb Peterson
has resigned her position as Chair of the Park
Commission, however would like to remain a member of the
Park Commission.
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PARK COMMISSION CONTINUED
It was moved by Councilmember Frahm, seconded by
Councilmember Callahan, to accept the resignation of
Barb Peterson as Chair of the Park Commission thanking
her for her three years of service as the Park
Commission Chair and instructing staff to bring back
names of interested individuals for the September 22,
1986 meeting for Council consideration. Motion, Ayes 4,
Nays 0.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Martha Diesen, 1100 Townline Road, presented a petition
requesting the City to impose a year around load limit
and reduce the speed limit on Townline Road.
ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT:
#1022 CHARLES A. SCHALL
605 PARK LANE
VARIANCE
RESOLUTION
Charles and Marilyn Schall were present for this matter.
Their contractor, Marty Bethke was also present.
Applicants request to construct a new attached garage
with a bedroom above the garage. The structure is
proposed to be 7.7 feet from the .side lot line, 3.5 feet
from the roadway, includes a net reduction from 4.1% to
2.5% hardcover in 0 -751, and a net increase in hardcover
from 48.8% to 52.2% in 75 -2501. The structure is
proposed to be at a peak height 3' lower than the
existing house.
City Administrator Bernhardson explained that this
request was originally presented in June, tabled on
behalf of the neighbors so that their attorney could
review it, subsequently tabled on behalf of the
applicants so their attorney could review. Applicants
requested that the matter be placed on this meeting's
agenda and were advised that there would be four Council
members present.
Mr. Schall stated that the neighbors (Stan & Betty Rudd)
have not objected to the proposed garage but are opposed
to the additional living space above. He stated that
they have demonstrated sufficient hardship to support
the need for an additonal second story bedroom. He
noted that considerable planning has been done and this
is the best plan they can work out.
Stan & Betty Rudd, 601 Park Lane, and their Attorney,
James McKinnon, were present.
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#1022 SCHALL CONTINUED
James McKinnon stated that based on comments made at the
last meeting, he felt that Council was trying to balance
the equities between the desires of the applicants and
the impact to the neighbors. He stated that from a
legal standpoint, the Council has no legal right to
reach that argument until they first find that there is
an undue hardship with respect to the variance. Based
on his legal research under Minnesota law, an "undue
hardship" involves deprivation of the beneficial use on
one's property unless the variance were granted
(example: a need for a bedroom within a house with no
bedrooms at all). After the need is determined, then
they must determine whether that need can be
accomplished without a variance. He stated that, in
this case, he felt the need can be accomplished without
a variance by changing the existing second story to a
shed roof line which could accommodate 3 bedrooms and a
bath.
Mr. McKinnon noted that the City of Deephaven is
currently denying variances even if there is no
opposition from neighbors because their City Attorney
has advised them they do not have the legal authority to
grant variances unless they find an "undue hardship ".
He advised the Council to look at its legal requirements
and get an opinion from their City attorney before
consideration of balance of equities.
Mr. McKinnon noted that the proposed addition takes away
all of the Rudd's open space.
Councilmember Callahan asked if the applicant's are not
against the garage addition and if not, how high can a
garage be under the code.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth stated that code height
restrictions on a garage is 301.
Mr. McKinnon stated that the Rudd's are not against a
variance for the garage, however he felt that if a
variance should be granted for a garage it should be for
a normal garage height to maintain the intention of the
code.
Acting Mayor Adams stated that he felt the drafted
Resolution was a little soft on the hardship
documentation.
City Administrator Bernhardson stated that staff has not
revised the resolution since the last meeting because
they were expecting the applicants and their attorney to
come forward with legal research and information.
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#1022 SCHALL CONTINUED
City Attorney Thompson stated that she would like the
opportunity to review the issues before commenting.
Councilmember Grabek stated that he is in favor of
tabling the matter until they get a legal opinion.
The Scha l l's stated that they have decided to try and
resolve this matter on their- own as citizens of Orono
without having to hire an attorney.
Acting Mayor Adams asked that all Councilmembers visit
the site before the next meeting.
Marty Bethke, contractor for applicant, stated that for
the record in response to Mr. McKinnon's suggestion to
change the roofline, it would not be a practical
solution because it would then create a problem in
maximum height code restrictions.
It was moved by Councilmember Grabek, seconded by Acting
Mayor Adams, to table this application until the
September 8th Council meeting. Motion, Ayes 4, Nays 0.
#1026 MIKE HILBELINK /JOHN VOGT
1060 OLD CRYSTAL BAY ROAD
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION
RESOLUTION #2035
Mike Hilbelink and John Vogt were present for this
matter.
City Administrator Bernhardson stated that following the
last Council meeting in which Council made a motion
regarding access on this preliminary subdivision
application, applicants have come back with an
alternative road design'for the Council to re- consider.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth explained the applicants
proposal for a 50' access corridor located on the east
side to be shared by Lots 2 & 3 based on the following:
1) assure ability to have both houses face west with
walk -outs to the rear.
2) reduce number of curb cuts from 2 to 1.
3) reduce road construction costs.
Mabusth noted that the corridor would serve future
subdivision development of Hallson Estates.
City Administrator Bernhardson stated that this proposal
would avoid the issue of a north /south corridor to the
boundary line and also would be advantageous to Hallson
Estates because of the cost of another road being put in
and also would provide more useable land credit.
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#1026 HILBELINK/VOGT CONTINUED =
Mr. Hilbelink presented a signed letter from Mrs. Grace
Rosch stating she is not in favor of giving up any
property on her east lot line for a road.
Council discussed applicant's alternative and felt it
would solve the issues of access and minimizing curb
cuts for future development of the adjacent parcels of
properties.
It was moved by Councilmember Frahm, seconded by
Councilmember Grabek, to adopt Resolution #2035
approving the preliminary subdivision designating a 50'
wide corridor in the east side of Lots 2 and 3 for a
shared access to those lots; and noting Council's intent
that this corridor will serve the Hallson Estate
development; and noting that the covenants address fair
compensation for users of the access from the Hallson
Estates development. Motion, Ayes 4, Nays 0.
#1046 DOUGLAS J. ZUMBUSCH
1535 LONG LAKE BOULEVARD
VARIANCE /CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
RESOLUTION #2036
Douglas Zumbusch was present for this matter.
City Administrator Bernhardson explained the request to
replace an existing lakeshore stairway and replace or
add certain retaining walls in the lakeshore yard either
to preserve existing trees or to create a safer area for
mowing. Planning Commission recommended approval of
plans to have stairway treads and landings of porous
gravel over geotechnical fabric which would result in
4.8% hardcover in the 0 -751.
Councilmember Frahm questioned if the proposed 81x12'
landing at the bottom of the stairs by the lake is not
considered a structure or hardcover because it consists
of loose gravel underlain by porous geotechnical fabric,
and noted the fact that it may be setting a precedent.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth asked Mr. Zumbusch the
reason for needing the 8'x12' landing patio area.
Mr. Zumbusch stated that the there is a steep slope from
the house patio area directly to the lake and he wanted
the landing to accomodate a sitting area but is not
meant for high use.
Councilmember Frahm stated that the geotechnical fabric
issue should be defined and that in the past it has been
allowed in the 0 -75' for necessary structures but not
for patio areas.
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#1046 ZUMBUSCH CONTINUED
Councilmember Grabek stated that he had no problem with
allowing access to the lake but felt it was extreme to
allow the patio area.
Acting Mayor Adams suggested that this application be
treated as two - parts: 1) recommending approval of the
stairs and retaining walls as proposed 2) tabling
approval of the patio area until staff and Council
review the geotechnical fabric issue.
Mr. Zumbusch stated that he had no problem with Acting
Mayor Adam's suggestion.
Zoning Administrator Mabusth noted that the survey did
not show any of the retaining walls that might encroach
into the City fire lane property.
It was moved by Acting Mayor Adams, seconded by
Councilmember Callahan, to adopt Resolution #2036
approving the variance and conditional use permit
excluding the patio area and subject to a completed
survey showing all the improvements. Motion, Ayes 4,
Nays 0.
After discussion between Council and staff, it was
decided that they did not want to get into the issue of
allowing patios with geotechnical fabric within the
lakeshore area for aesthetic reasons as well as
hardcover reasons or declaring it non - hardcover; and
that geotechnical fabric use would only be approved
in conjunction with necessary structures. Staff was
instructed to review and make their recommendation
regarding geotechnical fabric and also relay the
Council's opinion to Mr. Zumbusch and the Planning
Commission.
#1061 LARRY AND LINDA COOK
3765 WATERTOWN ROAD
VARIANCE
RESOLUTION #2037
City Administrator Bernhardson explained the request to
construct a 20'x30' horse barn on a property that is
196' wide. Ordinance requires such structures to
maintain 150' side setback from property lines. The
applicant's originally proposed the barn to be 10' from
the Butterfield Greenhouse property line, noting that
the Butterfield property is a semi - commercial use of
property. Planning Commission recommended approval of
the barn 50' from the property line and subject to
obtaining written approval from the Butterfield's.
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11061 COOK CONTINUED
Larry Cook was present and submitted the letter of
approval from the Butterfield's.
MAYOR'S REPORT:
CABLE TV REPORT:
Acting Mayor Adams stated that he was comfortable with
the Planning Commission recommendation subject to
applicant being put on notice that he is only allowed a
maximum of three horses on the property.
Councilmember Frahm asked applicant if he proposed a
riding ring. He also noted that a conditional use
permit is required for any training done.
Mr. Cook stated that he planned to have a riding ring
which would be located approximately 50' from the
property line.
Councilmember Frahm questioned whether the original
proposal of 10' from the semi- commercial use property
would be more appropriate in order to maintain more
distance from the strictly residential area.
Mr. Cook noted that there is also a natural screening of
mature trees between his property and the Butterfield
property.
It was moved by Councilmember Grabek, seconded by Acting
Mayor Adams, to adopt Resolution #2037 approving a
variance to construct a barn 50' from the property line
(per Planning Commission's recommendation) subject to a
3 horse limit. Motion, Ayes 4, Nays 0.
There was no report from the Mayor.
Acting Mayor Adams stated the at the last Cable TV
meeting the budget was approved noting the philosophy
in which Cable TV budgets their monies. He also noted
that approximately 1/3 of the households in Orono are
being hooked up to Cable TV.
CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT:
DOCK.PERMIT ON PLATTED RIGHT -OF -WAY -
BIG ISLAND
RESOLUTION #2038
City Administrator Bernhardson explained the request for
a dock permit on a parcel of land (an interior lot) that
has had a dock on the City right -of -way for the past
many years which is currently undergoing a change of
ownership. Since the City does require a permit to allow
them to have a dock on City right -of -way, staff
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#DOCK PERMIT CONTINUED
recommends that this be permitted subject to the owner
being liable to any use related, that the dock be
maintained appropriately, and effective until such time
as there are other requests from other inland properties
requesting a dock at the same location.
It was moved by Acting Mayor Adams, seconded by
Councilmember Grabek, to adopt Resolution #2038
approving a dock permit on a platted unimproved right -
of -way known as Bay Place on Big Island to serve Lots 19
and 20, P.I.D No. 23- 117 -23 23 0033, until such time as
there are other requests from other inland properties
requesting the installation of a dock at this location.
Motion, Ayes 4, Nays 0.
BIG ISLAND BOARD OF GOVERNORS
City Administrator Bernhardson explained that the Big
Island Board of Governors made a letter request in early
August to be put on the agenda, in which staff responded
by letter requesting that they contact staff ahead of
time to no avail.
Present for this matter were: Donald A. Miller, Stuart
H. Gorney, Alan Wiedorf, Joe Backus, and Lance Bartlett.
Don Miller explained that the Chairman of the Board of
Trustees, Leonard Carlton, has been out of town
therefore was unable to respond to staff's letter.
As former Chairman of the Board and friend, Mr. Miller
was asked to speak on behalf of Chairman Carlton and the
Board of Governors.
Mr. Miller reviewed the process that was undertaken in
order for the vets to retain possession of the Vets
camp. He explained the areas of concern while trying to
rebuild the camp noting that most of these problems
existed for many years prior to possession of the
property, less than a year ago, by the Board of
Governors.
1) City has issued 3 citations for the storage of
fish houses on the island, noting that the fish
houses have been stored on the island previous years
and this is the first year the Board of Governors
has had any control. He stated that the issue is
now tied up in the court system between the city and
the owner of fish houses and the Board of Governors
is caught in the middle of the issue.
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BIG ISLAND BOARD OF GOVERNORS CONTINUED
2) City requiring them to have a conditional use
permit merely to allow volunteer workers to stay
overnight to do necessary clean -up the island,
noting that they must appear before the Council and
pay a fee for the permit. He stated that they have
at least two more scheduled weekends of volunteer
work and the conditional use permit expires 8/31/86.
3) The Board of Governors received a letter from the
City informing them that they need permission to put
in hiking trails on their own property.
4) Cost involved in requiring individual permits for
any work being done to each of the buildings.
Mr. Miller stated that the Board of Governors as the new
group are experiencing troubles from the City which were
not given to the State of Minnesota when they held
possession even though the same conditions existed. He
stated that if the City expects the Board as volunteers
to move mountains on this project, that the City could
at least give them some time. The Board asks the
following from the City:
1) Retract the statement of committing this property
to the Hennepin County Park Board.
2 ) Give them the chance to operate as a veteran's
camp as it has since the late 19201s.
3) Discard the Council's policy of favoring taking
away the camp from the vets and giving it to the
Park board.
Without the resolution of theses differences the Board
of Governors feels that their only alternative would be
to petition for secession from the City of Orono.
Councilmember Grabek asked Mr. Miller why they feel the
City has singled out them as a new board. He also
questioned the Council's position on wanting the
property to go to Hennepin Parks.
Mr. Miller stated that the City did not want to take on
the State of Minnesota by enforcing the violations prior
to their ownership.
Regarding the Council's position, City Administrator
Bernhardson stated that in Orono's comprehensive plan
stated that both Deering Island and Big Island would be
best in public ownership, noting that this policy has
been in the plan for a number of years. He also noted
when this was discussed by the Council back in March,
statements were made that the City would offer veterans
a reasonable opportunity to put the camp together and
were granted a conditional use permit for the work but
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BIG ISLAND BOARD OF GOVERNORS CONTINUED
required a master plan be submitted in December, which
is still the direction in which the City is following.
He noted that at the time the conditional use permit was
granted the Board promised the City that the fish houses
would be removed by May 15th.
Mr. Miller stated that they cannot respond to the
violation because it is being handled in court.
Councilmember Grabek stated that as the owner of the
property it was their responsibility to solve the
problem and must face the consequences of being tagged
for an illegal situation.
City Administrator Bernhardson stated that the matter
was continued by defendents attorney until the end of
September without notification to the City attorney but
that Orono's attorney got it rescheduled for September
2, 1986.
City Administrator Bernhardson stated that staff finds
no problem with extending the conditional use permit.
Regarding the hiking trails, the ordinance does have
limitations. He reiterated the need for a master plan
being submitted in December in order to do any other
work not contained in the conditional use permit. He
stated that the best policy is to have a separate
building permit for each building, however the reducing
or waiving of fees could be addressed by Council as a
separate issue.
Councilmember Grabek stated that he was in favor of
waiving the fees because it is volunteer work for a
veteran's camp, however, the Board should follow through
with committments made or be subject to citations. He
stated that he would like to see a nice camp for the
veteran's, not the disgraceful conditions that have
existing in the past.
Councilmember Frahm stated that he personally does not
care whether the property is a veteran's camp or a
Hennepin Park, his only concern is that the property is
something nice and safe.
The Council stated that the Board should work with the
staff to work out these problems. The Council
unanimously stated that it is not their intent to see
the property turned over to Hennepin Parks.
It was moved by Acting Mayor Adams, seconded by
Councilmember Frahm, to extend the Conditional Use
Permit until December 31, 1986.
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BIG ISLAND BOARD OF GOVERNORS CONTINUED
Regarding the building permit fees: Councilmember Grabek
in favor of waiving fees, Acting Mayor Adams would like
more information of fees involved but would be in favor
of waiving excess or unusual fees, Councilmember
Callahan would like to review the master plan before
waiving fees. City Administrator Bernhardson stated
that staff would review the fees involved and bring back
a report to Council at their September 22nd meeting.
WESTONKA SENIOR CENTER - REPRESENTATIVE
Bernice Putt, President of the Westonka Senior Center,
introduced their Coordinator, Cathy Bailey, and the
seniors present for this matter.
Ms. Putt stated that the Westonka Seniors would like to
express their thanks and appreciation to the City of
Orono for their assistance and cooperation, noting the
the seniors are very proud of the center's success and
without the City's backing would not be possible.
Ms. Putt summarized the numerous activities and
accomplishments by the center in the past year.
Council thanked the Westonka Seniors for coming to the
meeting and sharing this information with them.
NOERENBERG PARKING PLAN
Present for this matter from the Hennepin Park District
were: Deborah Bartels, Marty Jessen, and Don King.
City Administrator Bernhardson reviewed with the Council
the three alternative re- designed parking lot plans.
Staff recommends Alternative 2 because it would minimize
the amount of parking lot tear -up and may make possible
any expansion amenable to use of grass pavers.
Alternative 2 - Alternative 2 is a reduction from the
original plan eliminating the bus turn- around and
shrinking the size of the parking lot. For overflow
parking, there would be mountable curbs for people just
driving up on grass in the proposed expansion area.
Future expansion would provide minimum disruption of
growing plants if it is ever needed and authorized.
Deb Bartels stated that they also prefer Alternative 2
because of easier circulation of cars and overflow
parking access. She stated that Alternatives 1 and 2
meet the fire code lane requirements whereas Alternative
3 does not. She noted that they would like to install
two parking stall test areas of grass pavers in the
overflow parking area for future expansion area use.
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NORRENBERG PARKING PLAN CONTINUED
Councilmember Frahm stated that he was not in favor of
Alternative 3 because it was too close to the lot line.
LIQUOR STORE
MEETING
It was noted that there will be no need for the overflow
parking area to be used in the winter, therefore grass
pavers would most probably be a successful alternative
to paving because the area wi 11 not have to be plowed.
It was moved by Councilmember Frahm, seconded by Acting
Mayor Adams, to accept Alternative 2 for the Noerenberg
Park Parking Plan. Motion, Ayes 4, Nays 0.
It was moved by Councilmember Frahm, seconded by
Councilmember Grabek, to accept the report and direct
the Administrator to prepare in conjunction with the 3rd
Quarter report the steps and issues for the City to se 11
its liquor operation business. Motion, Ayes 4, Nays 0.
City Administrator Bernhardson reminded the Council of
the two following upcoming meeting:
Hwy. 12 Corridor Study Meeting - September 3, 1986
Orono High School
1987 Budget Meeting - September 17, 1986 at 6:00 PM
Orono City Council Chambers
UTILITY RATE -*
ORDINANCE NO. 24 SECOND SERIES
It was moved by Councilmember Frahm, seconded by
Councilmember Callahan, to adopt Ordinance No. 24 Second
Series as an Ordinance amendment to the fee schedule
for the water and sewer utility rates effective 1 July
1986. Motion, Ayes 4, Nays 0.
CONTRACT REVISION
DAHLGREN, SHARDLOW & UBAN
Acting Mayor Adams suggested that the area defined
should include the area to Brown Rd.
It was moved by Acting Mayor Adams, seconded by
Councilmember Frahm, to approve the contract revision
and also include the stretch between Willow and Brown
Rd. with Dahlgren, Shardlow & Uban by $2,000.00 to
reflect additional work in conjuction with the Highway
12 Corridor Study for detailed site plans of four
alternatives and that it be taken out of the contingency
funds. Motion, Ayes 4, Nays 0.
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PART TIME HIRING -*
ROSE BURMASTER
It was moved by Councilmember Frahm, seconded by
Councilmember Callahan, to hire Rosemary Burmaster as a
part -time employee at the Liquor Store at $4.75 per hour
commencing Saturday, August 16, 1986. Motion, Ayes 4,
Nays 0.
HIGHWAY 12/WILLOW*
JOINT RESOLUTION #2039
It was moved by Councilmember Frahm, seconded by
Councilmember Callahan, to ratify the Joint Resolution
#2039 with Long Lake regarding Highway 12. Motion, Ayes
4, Nays 0.
ADMINISTRATOR'S INFORMATION*
It was moved by Councilmember Frahm, seconded by
Councilmember Callahan, to accept City Administrator
Bernhardson's Information report regarding Lyric Avenue,
Police Supervisory Selection, Comparable Worth,
Quorum /Voting Rules, and Countryside Neighborhood.
Motion, Ayes 4, Nays 0.
CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT:
City Attorney Thompson had nothing to report.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
No Executive Session was held.
LICENSES*
BILLS*
It was moved by Councilmember Frahm, seconded by
Councilmember Callahan, to approve the following
Licenses:
Firearm Use Permit - Park Sportmen's Club
One -Day Set -up Permit - Art Center of Minnesota
Motion, Ayes 4, Nays 0.
It was moved by Councilmember Frahm, seconded by
Councilmember Callahan, to approve payment of the All
Funds Accounts. Motion, Ayes 4, Nays 0.
ADJOURNMENT 9:24 P.M.
It was moved by Councilmember Frahm, seconded by Acting
Mayor Adams, to adjourn the regular Council meeting at
9:24 P.M. Motion, Ayes 4, Nays 0.
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Tim Adams, Acting Mayor