HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-12-1999 Council MinutesORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MINUTES FOR JULY 12, 1999
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The Council met on the above - mentioned date with the following members present: Mayor
Gabriel Jabbour, Council Members Charles Kelley, Richard Flint, Bob Sansevere, and Barbara
Peterson. Representing Staff were City Administrator Ron Moorse, City Attorney Tom
Barrett, Senior Planning Coordinator Michael Gaffron, City Engineer Glen Cook, Public
Services Director Greg Gappa, Zoning Administrator/Planner Paul Weinberger and Recorder
Lanette Wolf. Mayor Jabbour called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
( #1) PUBLIC HEARING - FOX RIDGE SEWER PROJECT
A. ORDER PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR FOX RIDGE SANITARY
SEWER PROJECT - RESOLUTION NO. 4317
Jabbour pointed out that this is not an assessment hearing. This hearing is to order plans and
specifications only. He pointed out that the city has a very attractive bond rate and there is a
$4,500 allowance for a grinder station for each resident. The $4,500 could either be included
in the assessment with a check issued to the property owner, or the assessment could be
reduced by $4,500.
Gappa stated that Glenn Cook would give an overview of the project. He said that there was
a meeting with the neighbors to talk about the project. A pressure system is being proposed
because a gravity sewer option was very expensive at $33,800 per unit. The neighbors decided
• they would rather have a pressure system at $21,100 per unit which includes a $4,500
allowance for residents to purchase their own grinder station.
Glenn Cook, City Engineer, said this project will provide sewer service to nine residential
units. He showed a diagram of the project and explained the proposal. The cost of the project
would be approximately $190,000 or $21,100 per unit. He said the flow would be pumped up
to Watertown Road in a single force -main. There will be a 2 -inch on Fox Ridge and a
3 -inch force -main on Brown Road.
Jabbour asked if the $190,000 was an estimate provided by the City Engineer's office.
Cook said it was an estimate based on previous bids.
Mark Headrick, 1850 Fox Ridge Road, said he is concerned about the cost of the project. He
said the residents were presented with two options, the gravity system and the pressure
system. He said they chose the pressure system because it would cost less than the gravity
system, but they feel the cost of the pressure system is still too high. He thinks that other
neighborhoods have paid less for sewer service. He said the cost of the project is
disproportionately high when compared to the value of the homes. He asked why the nine
residents will have to pay for the line that runs along Brown Road because there will be homes
in the area hooking up to the system later that will obtain the benefit of the sewer line.
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Jabbour explained the cost is based on many variables. He explained the City's policy on
sewer assessments. He gave examples of other areas where the cost of installing a sewer line
was very high compared to the value of the homes.
Headrick said he thinks houses that are worth more should pay more. He said it is unjust that
future homes will hook into the sewer on South Brown Road and the present homeowners
have to pay the entire cost of the line along South Brown Road. He feels the nine
homeowners should not pay for the line along South Brown Road or they should pay a
reduced amount that is more fair.
Sansevere asked Cook to show where the sewer will run along Brown Road. He asked if the
cost of sewer to future homes along Brown Road will be less because the line is already
installed.
Cook said their cost will be lower.
Kelley said there is a policy question on whether the City should pay the cost of the main line.
He agrees with the neighbors that the residents should not have to bear the entire cost of the
main line. He said the Council has not addressed this question before. He feels the line should
be big enough to accommodate future development and the present homeowners should not
have to pay the entire cost of the line. He is concerned about long -term planning of the sewer
system.
Sansevere asked how far the line would go.
Cook said it will run approximately one -half mile or 2,600 feet. He said that section adds
approximately $65,000 or approximately $7,000 per unit.
Jabbour said there is a question on how many more homes can be connected to this line. If it
requires too big a pipe, they will have to dig the pipe in rather than use directional boring
which will add to the cost. He asked how large a pipe can be used with directional boring.
Cook said that a three -inch line would accommodate future development and it can be
installed using directional boring. A three -inch line would add approximately $5.00 per foot to
the cost.
Flint said he favors planning for future development, but it is difficult to determine who should
pay the costs.
Jabbour warned that the Council members should not make a decision based on one site
because they will be setting a precedent.
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• ( #V PUBLIC HEARING - FOX RIDGE SEWER PROJECT - Continued
Ray Hack, 1995 Fox Ridge Road, feels there are homes north of them on either side of Brown
Road that have septic systems that may not be in compliance. He feels they should be included
in the project to bring the costs down.
Jabbour explained that those houses are outside the MUSA line and since they have not
petitioned to be included in the project, the City cannot force them to hook up to the sewer
system.
Margaret Cost, 255 South Brown Road, said a new septic system was installed on her
property in 1995 and it is in compliance. She has requested not to be included in the project.
Ellen Polansky, 1900 Fox Ridge Road, said that all the neighbors, not just Mr. Headrick, are
concerned about the cost of the project. .
Kelley moved, Peterson seconded, a motion to approve Resolution No. 4317 Ordering
Preparation of Plans and Specifications for Fog Ridge Area Sanitary Sewer
Improvements. VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
( #2) CONSENT AGENDA
• Items 4, 6, 7, 8, 10, and 13 were added to the Consent Agenda.
Kelley moved, Flint seconded, a motion to approve the Consent Agenda as amended.
VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
Gregg Klohn was present and asked to discuss Item 4, 4455 North Shore Drive.
Kelley moved, Flint seconded, a motion to remove Item 4 from the Consent Agenda.
VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
( * #3) REGULAR MEETING OF JUNE 28, 1999
Kelley moved, Flint seconded, to approve the Minutes of the Regular City Council
meeting of June 28, 1999, as submitted. VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
PARK COMMISSION COMMENTS
No comments.
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PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS •
Jay Nygard, Planning Commission Representative, had no comment.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None
ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
(#4) #2488 GREGG AND THERESA KLOHN, 4455 NORTH SHORE DRIVE -
VARIANCE
Gregg Klohn, Applicant, reviewed a diagram of the site. He proposes to construct a 14' x 24'
garage that would replace a garage and storage shed. The garage construction would add 151
s. f. of hardcover for a total of 35.5% hardcover. At a minimum, he would like to reconstruct
the 10' x 18' garage that was destroyed in the May 1998 storm. He said the Planning
Commission voted to deny his application.
Weinberger said the garage that was located near North Shore Drive was destroyed in a storm
in 1998 and a small shed was also damaged. He said Mr. Klohn would like to build a larger
accessory building with a garage door on it that would replace the two buildings. The
Planning Commission had discussions about other locations on the property. Staff had made •
some recommendations that Mr. Klohn look at another portion of the property to locate the
garage. Some of the drawbacks of relocating the garage are the location of a utility pole,
additional hardcover, topography of the lot and the location of a well.
Klohn said he would like to push the garage back further, but that would require removing
trees which he does not want to do.
Jabbour said he understands the decision of the Planning Commission.
Klohn said that, at a minimum, he wants to rebuild a 10' x 18' garage, even though it would
not be big enough for a vehicle.
Jabbour suggested that Klohn build a longer garage, placing one car behind the other.
Klohn said that plan would require a great deal of excavation and would increase the
hardcover.
Jabbour said it could be built over the existing cement slab and it would keep the existing roof
line, but it is an undesirable garage.
Kelley said he believes everyone should have storage for two vehicles and he is in favor of •
allowing the applicant to replace the garage that was destroyed and incorporating the size of
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the shed to make one building instead of two. He said the new building should be constructed
to the same square feet as the existing garage and shed. He would be in favor of moving it off
the property line. He would not be opposed to a small increase in hardcover.
Jabbour said the side setback should be enhanced substantially.
Klohn said the turn into the driveway is very difficult because of the location of a large pine
tree and the utility pole. He said access would be improved by moving the building.
Sansevere said he recalls that the Council was sympathetic to allowing people to replace what
they lost in the 1998 storms.
Jabbour said that every variance must demonstrate a hardship that is unique to that particular
piece of land. He is not comfortable approving this application without a hardship. The
hardships for this property include the fact that it was platted prior to existing code, there is
no additional land, and the storm destroyed the only storage area.
Jay Nygard said he believes it would be beneficial to the City to allow the applicant to move
the structure away from the street.
Jabbour said that is irrelevant because the law requires that hardship be demonstrated. If there
is no hardship, a variance cannot be granted.
Klohn said the topography of the existing lot is a hardship as well as the locations of the well
and the utility pole.
Jabbour said there are many lots in Orono that will not accommodate a two -car garage.
Flint asked about the timing of the destruction of the garage and the granting of the hardcover
variance.
Klohn said the destruction was in May and new construction was in October.
Flint asked if Klohn asked for the variance for the garage when he did the construction on the
front of the residence.
Klohn said that at that time he was under the impression that he would be able to just rebuild
from the storm damage and would not have to apply for a variance.
Flint commented that Klohn did not ask for the variance for that garage at that time.
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(#4) #2488 GREGG AND THERESA KE OHN, 4455 NORTH SHORE DRIVE - •
VARIANCE - Continued
Jabbour said he pointed out to Klohn when he asked for the variance for the addition that he
would need a variance for the garage.
Klohn stated following the storm many structures were being allowed to be rebuilt without
going through the whole variance process. As a worst case scenario, he would like to be in the
same position he was in prior to the storm with a one -car garage. Right now, he has
snowmobiles and other items sitting on the cement slab covered with a tarp and that is not
desirable to anyone.
Flint said he is not in favor of granting the variance. He supports the Planning Commission's
recommendation because he does not believe there is a hardship.
Jabbour asked Klohn about his long -term plans for the property and if he is planning to make
other additions to the property.
Klohn said he does not foresee any additional structural changes to the property. He would
like to have storage for two cars without making topographical or landscaping changes to the
property. He said the next door neighbor has an identical garage that she uses only for
storage. She has a two -car garage attached to her home. He wants to replace what he lost.
Kelley said he views the hardcover ordinance as preservation of the lake. On this lot, there is •
no hardcover in the 0' -75' setback. In the 75' -250' setback, there is 19% hardcover where
25% is allowed. In the 250' -500' setback, which is. the farthest from the lake, the applicant
wants 32.8% hardcover where 30% is allowed. The City tries to preserve the lake and Kelley
feels this lot has done an exceptional job. He said the applicant could actually add hardcover
in the 75' -250' setback, but he isn't doing that. He believes there are hardships on this
property that justify the applicant replacing the garage and shed.
Sansevere said the Council has dealt with several home sites where they have had complaints
from neighbors of eyesores. Mr. Klohn has said that he is storing snowmobiles and other items
under a tarp that were once in the shed which does not enhance the neighborhood. He believes
the applicant should be able to replace what he lost in the storm.
Peterson said this is a chance to make this lot better, but that does not mean she is in favor of
the proposal. She believes the applicant could relocate the structure somewhere else on the
lot.
Klohn said it would be very difficult to put the garage in any spot other than where he is
proposing.
Jabbour said this lot is located on a peninsula. He asked how far it would be from the lake on
the other side.
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Klohn said approximately 250 feet.
Jabbour said it might be within the 250 feet on that side. Jabbour said he is concerned that
Klohn will be asking for other variances for an addition to the house. He does not believe
there would be room for storing other items if a car is put in the garage. He asked if Klohn
would build a 10' x 18' garage because not many cars would fit in that size garage.
Klohn said his goal is not to put a car in the garage. It would be storage for snowmobiles,
lawn mowers and other items.
Jabbour said he thinks there should be an ordinance saying that everybody should have a two -
car garage calculated in their hardcover when they get a building permit. He objects to the fact
that some people get a building permit with no garage calculated, and then come back later for
a variance for a garage. He feels Klohn is asking for a shed for storage of his possessions. He
asked if the excess hardcover could be taken out of the other zone.
Kelley said he doesn't feel the Council can take the position that the hardcover in that zone
will stay at 19 %.
• Klohn said if he builds a 10' x 18' garage, there would be 32% hardcover.
Jabbour said a side - loaded garage will never allow for a car to enter it and that's how he is
maintaining the lower hardcover, because there is no driveway coming through from the front.
Sansevere asked if Klohn ever put a car in the shed before the storm damage.
Klohn said no, it was for storage only.
Jabbour asked staff how large a shed Klohn could build without increasing hardcover.
Weinberger said if the shed was built taking in the total square footage of the shed that was
removed and the existing shed, it would be 243 square feet or a 24' x 10' building. The
structure destroyed by the storm was 10' x 18'.
Klohn said he is willing to rebuild the 10' x 18' garage, but he would like to incorporate the
other shed and move it off the right -of -way.
Kelley asked what the hardcover would be if Klohn was allowed to rebuild the 10' x 18'
garage, but eliminate the storage shed.
• Klohn said he would like the garage to blend in with the appearance of the neighbor's garage.
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(#4) #2488 GREGG AND THERESA KLOHN, 4455 NORTH SHORE DRIVE - •
VARIANCE - Continued
Kelley asked the size of the small shed.
Klohn said that it is approximately 8' x 9'.
Weinberger said that according to the hardcover calculations, the shed was calculated at 58
square feet.
Klohn said there is some hardcover between the two buildings that he could eliminate.
Jabbour moved to allow the applicant a side setback variance of 5', a 15' setback from
the road and no hardcover variance granted.
Klohn asked if that would allow him to maintain the hardcover at 32 %.
Jabbour said it would be 30 %.
Klohn said he has permission for 32% now.
Jabbour asked what size shed he would end up having at 32 %.
Weinberger said it would be a very minimal shed.
Jabbour withdrew his motion.
Klohn said he would like to at least rebuild the garage that was destroyed by the storm.
Kelley moved, Sansevere seconded, to approve Application #2488 for Gregg and
Theresa Klohn, 4455 North Shore Drive granting variances to build a 10' x 18' shed 5'
from the lot line, 10' from the street with the removal of the small shed. VOTE: Ayes 2,
Nays 3 (Flint, Jabbour and Peterson objected.) The motion failed.
Peterson moved, Kelley seconded, to approve Application #2488 for Gregg and Theresa
Klohn, 4455 North Shore Drive, granting variances to build a 10' X 18' shed 5' from the
lot line, 15' from the street with the removal of the small shed. The hardships include
the topography of the lot, there is no additional land available, the location of the utility
pole, the location of the well, and the desire to save trees. Conditions of approval
include that there will be no outside storage and it is the position of this Council that no
additional variances will be granted for the property.
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Klohn asked what the setback requirement is from the street depending on what way the
garage door opens. .
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Weinberger said that in some locations accessory buildings can be 10 feet from the property
line.
Klohn said if he builds an accessory building, it would only have to be 10 feet off the property
line.
Kelley asked if he is going to put in a garage door or just a door.
Jabbour said it would only have a door on the driveway side because there is no way to get a
car through it.
Kelley asked if it would be a single car garage door.
Jabbour said the Council is suggesting there be no door facing the, street, but there will be one
facing the driveway, but it is being identified as an accessory structure and he could locate it
10' from the street.
Jabbour moved, Kelley seconded a friendly amendment to Peterson's motion to permit
the structure to be located 10' from the street.
• Kelley asked if this motion was still for a small shed.
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Jabbour said it would allow a 10' x 18' shed, 5' from the property line, 10' from the street,
side opening door, no outside storage, and recommendation to future councils not to issue any
additional variances.
Weinberger asked if the variance is being granted to allow a shed based on the site plan 10'
from the North Shore Drive right -of -way even though the Council is granting a 5' setback on
the side lot line.
Jabbour said he understands that the 10' would be the normal setback based on the ordinance,
so the only variances needed are the side setback from 10' to 5' and the hardcover.
Gaffron said that only a garage is allowed to be within the street yard of a lakeshore lot and
only a garage can take advantage of the 10' setback when the garage faces to the side. Any
other accessory structure would have to meet a 30' setback, so a variance would be needed.
Klohn said that then he would rebuild the 10' x 18' garage with the garage door on the side
with a side door.
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(#4) #2488 GREGG AND THERESA KEOHN, 4455 NORTH SHORE DRIVE - •
VARIANCE - Continued
Peterson moved, Kelley seconded to amend the motion to approve a 5' side yard
variance, a 15' street setback, allow a 10 z 18' structure, and require the removal of the
cement slab. VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0 (Flint abstained).
Jabbour commented that if the Council wants everyone to have the chance to have a two -car
garage, the ordinance should mandate in the hardcover calculation that an area for a two -car
garage will be subtracted on new construction.
( #5) #2492 RICK AND GAIL LUZAICH, 2490 OLD BEACH ROAD - VARIANCE
AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
Rick Luzaich, Applicant, was present.
Weinberger stated that this past Spring, the City was made aware of tree removal occurring
on the property located at 2490 Old Beach Road. The tree removal included trees located
within the 75' setback of the ordinary high water level of Lake Minnetonka and along a steep
slope. He displayed a diagram showing where the clear cutting occurred. The City did issue a
stop work order, but it was after the trees had been removed. The stop work order occurred
prior to the removal of any of the stumps and any regrading that was proposed to occur.
Weinberger reviewed the ordinances covering tree removal. Part of the code addresses •
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intensive vegetation clearing and does not allow intensive vegetation clearing within 75' of the
shoreline or on steep slopes within the shoreland area. Tree removal within 75' of the
lakeshore requires a permit from the City. Nearly the entire area is within 75' of the shoreline
or on a steep slope.
Shortly after the stop work order was issued, staff met with a landscaper hired by Mr. Luzaich
to discuss the proposed landscape plan. Weinberger displayed a plan reviewed by the Planning
Commission in May 1999. The plan consisted of a series of retaining walls on the slope and
would have required major grading along the entire steep slope. The Planning Commission
tabled the application and recommended that the applicant work with staff to develop a plan
that didn't require grading or retaining walls. The Planning Commission also wanted to see
the plan demonstrate restoration of the types of vegetation removed, not what appeared on
the landscape plan. The plan did not reflect what was removed from the site and did not show
any mature trees being replaced.
The City then retained Dr. Peter Bedker, a consulting forester, to complete a site analysis of
the property and make recommendations for staff and for the property owners. He looked at
the site to determine the types of soils, the slope and the types of trees that had existed on the
property. Dr. Bedker compiled a list of recommendations and estimated the value of the
removed trees at $48,000. He recommended that an adequate replacement would be 29 trees
of 2" caliper to be spaced 25' apart. He also recommended 4" to 4 1/2" caliper trees at the top •
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of the hill. Dr. Bedker did state it might be counter productive to put a 16" tree back for a 16"
tree as the tree may or may not survive. A smaller tree may survive better and surpass the
growth of a more mature tree.
The Planning Commission reviewed a revised plan at their June meeting. The plan had one
large retaining wall running from one side of the property to the other. The plan implemented
some grading and there were a few hardwood trees included. It was a good plan, but it did not
reflect the City's goals as enumerated in the Comprehensive Plan. The goal of the City is to
have a shoreline maintained that breaks up the height of the buildings and breaks up the
appearance of a built environment around the lake. A larger canopy of trees would help
prevent erosion problems. Weinberger said the Planning Commission voted, by a vote of 4 -2,
to deny the application in order to expedite the process and move a plan forward to the City
Council because the land is laying dormant and some types of erosion control will have to be
implemented in order to protect the shoreline.
Weinberger reported that Gary Mueller, Mr. Luzaich's landscape architect, met with Dr.
Bedker to discuss some of the issues and Dr. Bedker's recommendations. Weinberger said the
plan brought in some of Dr. Bedker's recommendations, but it does not address all of them.
There is still a large amount of grading being proposed on the hill side and not the
• recommended type of trees. He said that a new plan was received from Mr. Mueller on Friday,
July 9, 1999. This plan implemented some of Dr. Bedker's recommendations and it is closer to
the goal of restoration along the lakeshore. The amount of grading on this plan would be very
minimal. Two areas of retaining wall would be used to support the existing stairwell. The
types of trees have increased, but they are all located along the property lines and they are not
in areas that allow for a more natural appearance from the lake. In the middle of the plan there
is a series of perennial plantings which would be adequate for erosion control. They are
natural and would not require high levels of maintenance. It was noted in Dr. Bedker's
recommendations that there be 25' spacing between trees. The plan does not address the issue
of the 29 tree replacement. There is a concern about the center of the property and the trees
being located completely on the sides of the property and not in front of the house or along
the shoreline. He displayed photographs of the property. Dr. Bedker communicated to
Weinberger that most of his recommendations are answered by this plan with the exception of
the spacing between the trees and location of some trees in the front of the house and near the
shoreline.
Jabbour asked Weinberger to elaborate on the vote by the Planning Commission.
Weinberger responded that the two votes that were opposed to the recommendation of denial
by the Planning Commission were because the Planning Commission thought it was
appropriate to review another plan. They were not necessarily in support of the plan that was
• in front of them, but they felt that they should present a plan to the City Council that they had
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reviewed. The other members of the Planning Commission felt it was important to expedite
the process.
Sansevere asked if Weinberger had any idea from Dr. Bedker how many trees he wanted to
see in the middle of the property and along the shoreline.
Weinberger said that according to the appraisal value, the plan is approximately 10 trees short;
however, Dr. Bedker felt the goals could be accomplished by fewer trees, three or four at the
top of the hill and a couple of trees toward the bottom of the hill.
Luzaich stated his reasons for removing the trees. He said the trees were storm damaged and
there was dead fall. He said he should have applied for a permit, but he did not. He feels this
plan is appropriate and fits the neighborhood.
Jabbour said the plan does not fit the Comprehensive Plan for a natural- looking environment.
Luzaich said he objects to paying for retaining Dr. Bedker. He said this is the third plan he has
submitted and he has tried to work with the City staff. He pointed out that in front of the
residence there are another two acres of land containing approximately 1,100 trees.
Jabbour said he concurs with the Ci ty forester's recommendations. Jabbour said he feels that •
4 -6" trees could be planted. He would like the neighbors consulted so their view of the lake is
not cut off. He said his primary concern is to revegetate the hill and bring it back as much as
possible.
Sansevere asked if Luzaich would object to putting trees in the middle of the property and
along the lakeshore.
Luzaich said he does not want to put trees in the middle of the property and along the
lakeshore because he would not be able to see the lake.
Sansevere pointed out that the photographs of the neighboring properties show trees in the
middle of the property and along the lakeshore.
Kelley referred to the memo from Dr. Bedker, page 2, comment 2, which states that it is not
reasonable or practical to transplant large trees as part of this restoration. Kelley asked why
Dr. Bedker came to that conclusion and if it was because of money.
Weinberger said the main reason is that Dr. Bedker is dealing with the $48,000 for
restoration, but he also felt that often smaller trees will survive better and surpass the growth
of larger trees. •
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Kelley said he does not want him to be constrained by dollars and he doesn't care if it costs
Luzaich $100,000 to replace the trees. He would like to get an opinion from the forester that
money is not an issue in reforestation of this property.
Weinberger said that Dr. Bedker told him they are essentially estimates on what they figure
the value of the tree is. He said it is usually a formula that could be used for insurance or
appraisal purposes, but it is not exact. He said the size of the trees can be negotiated.
Jabbour said Kelley is trying to find out what the practical size of a tree is and what is the
biggest tree that could be planted without starting to impair growth by its size.
Flint said the risk is greater the larger the tree.
Gaffron said that Dr. Bedker told him you can assume that a 2" tree will not thrive for 2 years,
a 3" tree will not thrive for three years and so on. It will take longer for a larger diameter tree
to start to grow again. There will be better and quicker growth and a greater chance of
survival with smaller trees.
Jabbour said he would like to see staff develop a revegetation plan, he would like to see the
• neighbors approve it, a staff recommendation for an assurance on longevity, right of entry,
and a letter of credit. He said the trees should be scattered similarly to how they were located
before they were cut down.
Kelley said he wants protection for the future that the trees will be maintained.
Kelley moved to refer the matter to the consultant for a restoration plan. There was no
second to the motion.
Jabbour asked how long a waiver the City has from the applicant.
Weinberger said the applicant signed a waiver form where there is no deadline date.
Kelley asked Barrett if that was okay.
Barrett said yes.
Jabbour asked Barrett if there is any action the City must take to protect its interests.
Barrett said the Council can take action on the application for the conditional use permit
unless they wish to have the restoration plan included with the conditional use permit. He said
• the City does not need to depend for the reforestation plan on some application made by the
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - Continued
applicant. He said the City has an independent legal basis to compel the landowner to reforest
and restore the property which has been altered illegally.
Jabbour asked the applicant what he would like the Council to do.
Luzaich said he wants the Council to approve the plan.
Jabbour moved, Peterson seconded, to deny the restoration plan for Application #2492,
Rick and Gail Luzaich, 2490 Old Beach Road. VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
Luzaich said this is the third plan he has submitted. He said from what he can tell, the City
wants him to let the weeds on the hill grow wild and plant a mass of trees so he can't see the
lake. He asked if that is what the Council wants him to do.
Jabbour said no. He asked Weinberger to display the plan the City is proposing. Jabbour said
Mr. Luzaich's position was self-imposed. The City is the victim in this situation, not Mr.
Luzaich.
Weinberger said that Dr. Bedker was asked to make recommendations, not design a specific
plan. •
Jabbour said that the quantity of trees should be as recommended by Dr. Bedker and they
should be in the immediate vicinity of what was cut down. If the landscape architect believes it
would be more advantageous to move some of them towards the lake front, so be it. Dr.
Bedker and the landscape architect should work it out. He asked if there could be a new plan
by the next Council meeting.
Luzaich said he would consult with his landscape architect. He said he doesn't like being told
he has to plant specific trees in specific places.
Kelley said he would direct staff to have the City's consultant and the applicant's landscape
architect work together on a plan that the City's consultant will approve. Kelley said he will
not approve a plan that the City's consultant has not approved.
Sansevere feels the applicant's plan would be detrimental to the applicant when the trees are.
mature.
Luzaich said the property is so wide that he would still have a good view.
Weinberger said that Mr. Mueller and Dr. Bedker did meet to discuss the plan. He said that
when he spoke to Dr. Bedker about the plan that was submitted on Friday, Dr. Bedker stated
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( #S) #2492 RICKAND GAIL L UZAICH, 2490 OLD BEACH ROAD - VARIANCE AND
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - Continued
that most of his recommendations were implemented and the only issue he had was the
spacing of the trees.
Kelley moved, Peterson seconded, to table Application #2492, Rick and Gail Luzaich,
2490 Old Beach Road, for After the Fact Variances and Conditional Use Permit.
VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
( * #6) #2496 PATRICK O'FLANAGAN, 3895 NORTH SHORE DRIVE - VARIANCES
- RESOLUTION NO. 4318
Kelley moved, Flint seconded, to approve Resolution No. 4318 Granting Variances to
Municipal Zoning Code Section 10.03, Subdivisions 12 ands 15(F) and Section 10.25,
Subdivision 6(B), Application #2496. VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
( * #7) #2499 THOMAS AND MARILYN SWANSON, 1740 SHADYWOOD ROAD -
VARIANCE - RESOLUTION NO. 4319
Kelley moved, Flint seconded, to approve Resolution No. 4319 Granting Variances to
Municipal Zoning Code Section 10.22, Subdivisions 1(A) and 2 and Section 10.56,
• Subdivision 16(L)(1), File #2499. VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
( *#8) #2500 ORONO SCHOOL DISTRICT NO. 278,685 OLD CRYSTAL BAY ROAD
NORTH - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT - RESOLUTION NO. 4320
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Kelley moved, Flint seconded, to approve Resolution No. 4320 Granting a Conditional
Use Permit for a Media Center Addition to the Orono High School at 795 Old Crystal
Bay Road North for Orono School District #278 per Municipal Zoning Code Section
10.28, Subdivision 3, File #2500. VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
MAYOR/COUNCIL REPORT
Kelley asked Gappa for a status report on the road projects.
Gappa said that progress is good on Ferndale Road and the project is on schedule. On County
Road 15, they are cutting back to where the finald road edge will be on the north side.
Kelley asked about the road in Saga Hill.
Jabbour said the City has a purchase agreement. The City is waiting to fiM its part of the
purchase agreement which is vacating the easement in the alley.
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Moorse said the vacation is going to the Planning Commission next Monday and it will come
to the next City Council meeting. After that, the City can close on the purchase agreement.
Kelley asked if the City can legally prohibit outside storage. He would like to refer this matter
to the City Attorney. He asked Glenn Cook to comment on the pros and cons of pressurized
sewer systems. He asked if they are feasible in the long run.
Cook said that, from his perspective, gravity is better, but the cost of a pressure system is
about half that of a gravity system. One risk is that the grinder pump relies on electricity.
Kelley said that historically there has been a lot of maintenance work on the gravity systems
and he asked Cook if there would be less maintenance with the pressure system.
Cook said yes, but the City is allowing homeowners to own the grinder station so each
homeowner needs to have a plumber that is familiar with the system.
Jabbour said their should be an orientation program for the homeowners.
Moorse said one issue that came up is that there is a diversity in the types of grinder pumps
and there could be houses right next door to each other that have different types of pumps.
Kelley said that the technology will continue to evolve and this will always be an issue. •
Jabbour said the Council instructed staff as part of the last Comprehensive Plan workshop to
look at a system that is conducive to being a 200 -year system. He asked if it would behoove
the City to put a gravity system in Brown Road.
Cook said that on Brown Road there are some complications with topography that do not
make gravity feasible.
Flint said that in connection with the Fox Ridge sanitary sewer there is an opportunity for a
trail along Brown Road. He asked staff to consider the feasibility of constructing a trail when
the sewer system is installed.
Gappa said they are totally separate types of construction, but he can look into it.
Jabbour instructed staff to obtain the necessary information to consider a trail along Brown
Road.
Flint suggested that Long Lake be involved in the feasibility study.
Kelley asked City Attorney Barrett if the City can enforce the prohibition of outside storage.
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MAYOR/COUNCIL REPORT - Continued
Barrett said it would be enforceable as a condition of a variance.
Sansevere said he received an e -mail from a resident of the Woodhill Road area who heard
about the sewer project the Council considered at its last meeting and was wondering why
they were not given the option between the gravity and the grinder system.
Gappa said on the Orono Orchard project a gravity system was feasible because of lower cost.
Jabbour said that when gravity is feasible, it is more desirable than a grinder system.
Sansevere asked if the residents in that area knew there was an option of a grinder system.
Gappa said it was not discussed because gravity was within the realm of possibility the City is
substantially subsidizing the costs.
(5 Minute Recess at 9:25 p.m.)
Jabbour reported that he flew from Wayzata to Hutchinson and videotaped the Dakota Rail
railroad. He said there is a request from the railroad for a subsidy of $7.9 million to upgrade
the ties. There is no funding proposed for crossings or signals. He said that Rail America, the
owner of the railroad, feels the railroad is unsafe. Rail America has a self-imposed moratorium
on carrying hazardous wastes and they informed the railroad authority that after Labor Day
they will voluntarily close the railroad unless there is funding to rehabilitate it. He said that
Rail America announced to the railroad authority that they have so many derailments, they are
1,500 times the national average for derailments.
Jabbour stated he recently attended a Mayors' meeting and he informed the mayors he was
disappointed with the attendance at the Mayors' meeting with the LMCD.
Jabbour also mentioned that there is a gas tank positioned on the water at Lakeside Marina
that should be inspected by the Fire Marshall.
ENGINEER REPORT
(#9) PUBLIC WORKS LAND EXPANSION
Gappa presented a map showing the location of property for possible acquisition for future
City purposes. He said the intent of this land purchase is to preserve this property for future
City use. The property is currently undeveloped. He suggested that a wetland delineation be
obtained and then obtain an appraisal.
. Jabbour said the land is needed for Public Works.
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( #9) PUBLIC WORKS LAND EXPANSION- Continued
Kelley said he is in favor of acquiring the property.
Flint said he is in favor of acquiring the property because it makes sense for future planning.
Flint moved, Kelley seconded, to authorize obtaining a wetland delineation, at an
estimated cost of $1,500, for additional land east of the existing City Office Complex for
future City use, wetland delineation cost to be funded from General Fund, Special
Projects and Contingencies Budget, Other Professional Services Line Item with a
budget adjustment to reflect the $1,500 expenditure. VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
Flint moved, Kelley seconded, to authorize obtaining an appraisal, at an estimated cost
of $2,000, for additional land east of the existing City Office Complex for future City
use, appraisal cost to be funded from the General Fund, Special Projects and
Contingencies Budget, Other Professional Services Line Item with a budget adjustment
to reflect the $2,000 expenditure. VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
( * #10) HENNEPIN COUNTY MAPPING AGREEMENT, RESOLUTION NO. 4321
Kelley moved, Flint seconded, to adopt a Resolution No. 4321 authorizing the City of
Orono to enter into an agreement for the use of Hennepin County's electronic
proprietary geographical data base and to authorize the Mayor and City Clerk to sign
the Conditional Use License Agreement. VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
( #11) AUTHORIZE DEVELOPMENT OF CONCEPT PLANS FOR NAVARRE
PLAYGROUND IMPROVEMENTS AND NAVARRE MUNICIPAL PARKING LOT
Peterson said she is not convinced that a Concept Development Plan for the playground is
needed. She feels staff has a good idea of what should be there and what needs to be done.
Flint said he feels the parks are developed better when a concept plan is done.
Peterson asked if it would be necessary to obtain a parking lot plan.
Flint said it is farther from what the Parks Commission has ever done, but the property is not
well planned and a plan would be beneficial.
Kelley said it would benefit the neighboring business owners if the parking lot could be
improved.
Jabbour said the City Administrator had suggested putting the whole area into a TIF district
where all the proceeds from TIF district would go to enhance that area.
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PLAYGROUND IMPROVEMENTS AND NAVARRE MUNICIPAL PARKING LOT -
Continued
Sansevere favors funding the study for the parking lot, but not the study for the park
improvements.
Peterson asked if staff has met with the neighbors.
Gappa said no. He said his department could work with the Parks Commission to develop a
plan.
Kelley said he wants the neighborhood involved in the planning process.
Flint said he doesn't object to having the. neighbors involved, but sometimes their
recommendations are not realistic.
Jabbour said he is in favor of some funding, but he would like the parks to be biased toward
the needs of the neighbors. He also feels that right now more funds should be spent on land
acquisition than on park improvements.
Jabbour said the Parks Commission should work with the neighbors and develop a concept
• that makes the park more accessible and functional.
Sansevere said he attended the Parks Commission meeting and that is what they would like to
do because they want to be more proactive and have more direction from the Council.
Moorse suggested there should be a requirement that the park boundaries remain the same.
Jabbour agreed with Moorse.
Flint moved, Peterson seconded, to instruct the Parks Commission to work with the
neighbors to develop a plan for the Navarre Park that will make it more user friendly,
but that it not involve the acquisition of additional land, and make a recommendation
to the Council within six weeks. VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
Jabbour asked what the Council members would like to do about the parking lot. He said it
doesn't have anything to do with the park.
Kelley said the neighbors and business owners located within 500 feet of the parking lot
should be involved in developing the parking lot plan and they should be invited to a work
session.
• The Council established a work session for 6:00 p.m., Thursday, July 22, 1999 to discuss the
Navarre parking lot upgrade.
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CITY ADMINISTRATOR' S REPORT
( #12) APPOINTMENT OF TEMPORARY, PART -TIME ON -SITE SEPTIC
INSPECTOR
Moorse said the purpose is to have Steve Weckman available for septic inspection services
until the new inspector is on board.
Kelley said he objects to rehiring someone that has made a decision to leave the City's
employment.
Flint said it is a short-term problem and this is a solution.
Sansevere asked if Moorse had contacted Weckman or if Weckman contacted Moorse.
Moorse said it was discussed before Weckman left that there would be an interim period when
the City may need Weckman's services.
Gappa said there are projects in process where septic system inspection services are needed to
meet the required time limits.
Sansevere asked if Weckman left on good terms.
Moorse said yes.
Sansevere moved, Peterson seconded, to approve the appointment of Steve Weckman to
a Temporary Part-Time Septic Inspector position at a pay rate of $21.00 per hour with
no benefits, effective July 13, 1999, with the condition that the position will terminate
no later than November 1, 1999. VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
( * #13) PROPOSED SCHEDULE FOR SUMMER HOURS
Kelley moved, Flint seconded, to approve the proposed office hours schedule of 7:30
a.m. - 5:00 p.m., Monday - Thursday; and 7:30 a.m. -11:30 a.m., Friday, a notice of the
new schedule will be posted at the City facilities' entrance lobbies, and a news release
will be placed in the local newspapers, indicating the new schedule will begin on
Monday, July 19 and end on Friday, September 3. VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
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( * #14) LICENSES
Peterson moved, Kelley seconded, a motion to approve the following licenses:
Home Occupation Licenses:
William Lewis
William Lewis Web Development
1125 Willow Drive North
Long Lake, MN 55356
(Web Site Development)
Mary E. Winkler
Innovative Data Engineering Associates, Inc.
990 Loma Linda Avenue
Orono, MN 55364
(Technology Consulting/Computer Services)
VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
( * #34) BILLS
Peterson moved, Kelley seconded, to approve payment of the All Funds Account.
VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT
Attorney Barrett requested an executive session to discuss pending litigation.
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Jabbour moved, Peterson seconded, a motion to adjourn the meeting at 10:10 p.m.
VOTE: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
ATTEST:
Linda S. Vee, City Clerk Gabrie abbour, Mayor
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