HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-12-2006 Council MinutesORONO CITY C
Monday,,
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NCIL MEETING
te 12, 2006
ek p.m.
ROLL
The Council met on the above - mentioned date with the following members present: Acting Mayor Jim
White, Council Members Bob Sansevere, Jim Murphy, and Lili McMillan; City Administrator Ron
Moorse; Representing Staff were Planning Director Mike Gaffron, Planner Evelyn Turner, Engineer
Tom Kellogg, and Recorder Jackie Young.
Mayor Barbara Peterson and City Attorney Matt Brolkl were absent.
Acting Mayor White called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m., followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
CONSENT AGENDA
1. Approve /Amend
2.
Items 4, 5, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19 were a(
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to approve
VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
0 *2. Regular Council Meeting of May 22,
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Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to approve
meeting as submitted. VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
PARK COMMISSION COMMENTS — JEFF S(
There was no representative present.
PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS —
to the Consent Agenda.
Consent Agenda as amended.
minutes of the May 22, 2006 City Council
REPRESENTATIVE
KEMPF, REPRESENTATIVE
Kempf stated he had nothing to report but would remain for questions.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
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None
ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
3. #05 -3131 STEVE BOHL OF BOHLAND�DEVELOPMENT, INC., 190 WILLOW DRIVE
NORTH AND 177 GLENDALE DRIVE — PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL AND
REZONING
Steve Bohl, Applicant, and Mark Gronberg, Surveyor, were present.
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ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Monday, June 12, 2006
7:00 o'clock p.m.
(3. #05 -3131 STEVE BOHL OF BORLAND DEVELOPMENT, INC., 190 WILLOW DRIVE
NORTHAND 177 GLENDALE DRIVE, Continued)
Gaffron stated the applicant is requesting final plat approval of eight new building sites and RPUD
rezoning. The applicant has received MCWD approval and has recently submitted final plans, including
the AES Ecological Restoration & Management Program. The MCWD review process has resulted in a
number of buffer replacement areas that coincide with locations the City expects to have vegetative
screening established.
Gaffron stated the proposed name for the subdivision is Glendale Cove and that the Fire Department is
recommending changing a couple of the proposed streets to avoid name duplication within the city.
Gaffron noted the applicant has provided Staff with a grading and drainage plan, and pointed out that
there would be a revision to the house located near the wetland to comply with the wetland buffer.
Gaffron stated the City of Long Lake would be providing city water and that access to city sewer would
be off Hackberry. Gaffron reviewed the landscaping plan provided by the applicant, noting that the
vegetation near the street would be almost completely removed. Gaffron noted this application would
be back before the Council for final plat approval in a couple of weeks after Staff has had an
opportunity to thoroughly review the plans.
Murphy inquired whether any of the existing neighbors have commented on the proposed development.
Bohl stated he has not received many comments from the neighbors but that he did run into one of the
neighbors who requested that some buffering remain.
Murphy recommended the applicant communicate with the neighbors prior to the vegetation being
removed.
Bohl indicated he would be speaking with the neighbors.
Kellogg stated he would be meeting with the applicant later this week to discuss some minor revisions
that are necessary.
Gaffron suggested this application be tabled.
White noted he did review the AES document and commended the applicant on his willingness to
monitor this development for a couple of years to ensure the proper vegetation takes hold.
This item was tabled by the City Council.
*4. #06 -3192 WILLIAM AND MARY TITLER, 4209 NORTH SHORE DRIVE —
VARIANCE — RESOLUTION NO. 5474
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to adopt RESOLUTION NO. 5474, a Resolution Granting
Lot Width and Lot Area Variances for the property located at 4209 North Shore Drive.
VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0. •
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*5. #06 -3194 DAVID EISS, 1760
5475
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to adopt
Setback, Hardcover, and Lot Coverage Variai
Road. VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
6. #06 -3196 PAT McNAUGHTON/EDWAI
SHORELINE DRIVE — SUBDIVISION AND V
Pat McNaughton, Applicant, was present.
ROAD — VARIANCE — RESOLUTION NO.
SOLUTION NO. 5475, a Resolution Granting
for the property located at 1760 Shadywood
HAMM,1391 FOX STREET, 1401
LANCE
Gaffron provided the applicant with paperwork the City received from the neighbors. Gaffron stated the
applicant is requesting a lot line rearrangement between two properties, with the first property being
located at 1391 Fox Street and Outlot A of Blue Hill. Outlot A is separated from Lot 1 by County Road
15 and the Hennepin County Regional Rail Authority. The other parcel is also a vacant lot and is
located on the inside of the curve of County Road 15 and is Lot 1 of Dragon Fly Hill. The applicant's
intent is to separate the special lot line combination! and to attach it to Lot 1 owned by Mr. Hamm, with
the intent to construct a house on Lot 1. Gaffron noted Lot 1 would no longer have lake access
following the lot line rearrangement.
The Planning Commission reviewed this request at
vote of 3 -2 recommended approval of the lot line rf
requirement to provide a screening plan at the time
Staff and Council. Gaffron noted there were a nurr
Commission meeting who spoke against the applies
public hearing held on May 15, 2006, and on a
-rangement and lot area variances subject to a
F building permit application to be reviewed by
;r of residents in attendance at the Planning
Gaffron briefly reviewed the history of the Plat of Blue Hill. Gaffron noted the neighbors have
submitted some documentation concerning this application, which has been included in the council's
packet. Gaffron stated also enclosed in council's packet is a preliminary plat drawing for the property
located south of County Road 15 and includes a conceptual location and footprint for a house. Gaffron
indicated Staff had recommended at the Planning Commission meeting that in looking at the intent of
the average setback ordinance, it is Staff's opinion that no existing views of the lakeshore should be
affected by a new home. Gaffron illustrated the shoreline in this area and pointed out that the proposed
average lakeshore setback would be appropriate. Gaffron stated he would like to establish during the
preliminary plat process the average lakeshore setback. Gaffron noted the conceptual residence does
meet the required setbacks but would require a lot area variance. Gaffron stated Hennepin County
supports access off of Orono Lane rather than County Road 15.
Sansevere inquired how many of the other lots in this area are similar in size to the 1.14 -acre lot.
Gaffron stated there are a number of smaller lots on Orono Lane. Gaffron stated the plat illustrates the
lots in this area and that the proposed lot is not out !of character with the rest of the neighborhood.
In addition, the applicant has provided a plan for d
neighbors have raised some concerns regarding thi
this lot in that it would change the character of the
house is placed on a vacant lot it does change the c
ing some buffering and berming. Gaffron stated the
removal of trees and the placement of a house on
ieighbor. Gaffron acknowledged any time that a
iaracter somewhat.
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Monday, June 12, 2006
7:00 o'clock p.m.
(6. #06 -3196 PAT McNA UGHTOXIED WARD HAMM,1391 FOX STREET, 1401
SHORELINE DRIVE, Continued)
Murphy inquired whether McNaughton intends to purchase the Hamm property.
McNaughton stated it is his intent to purchase the Hamm property.
Murphy commented that there appears to be a number of issues with this application and inquired why it
is being labeled a lot line rearrangement. Murphy noted the lot lines would disappear if this application
is approved.
Gaffron stated the lots are essentially combined and the owner receives one tax statement for the
different lots. Gaffron commented this is considered a lot line rearrangement since these lots were
legally combined and the old lot line is being relocated. Gaffron stated this is also considered a plat
because it involves an outlot and the City's code does not allow an outlot to be used for anything other
than what it was originally designed for. In 1992, it was Staff's recommendation that Outlot A remain
separate and be designated for future acquisition by one of the adjacent property owners.
Gaffron stated by the time the plat was approved, the lot line had moved further west to allow for
greater flexibility for the garage and the Council approved a lot that was less than two acres. Gaffron
stated from Staff's perspective it was likely that there would be a house on this lot, noting that the lot
was assessed for city sewer and water and that it is bigger in size than some of the other lots in the area.
Gaffron stated in his view the density standards established in the comprehensive plan are met.
McMillan inquired whether some gravel has been added along with a dock on the outlot.
McNaughton stated there has never been a dock on the lot and that any work that has been completed on
the property has been done with the approval of the city. McNaughton commented he has attempted to
keep the lines of communication open with the neighbors and that they had the same opportunity to
purchase the property as he did. McNaughton stated the neighbors have enjoyed having a vacant lot
next to them for a number of years and that they are not very receptive to the change. McNaughton
noted he has had to deal with a fence that is located ten feet onto his property.
Sansevere stated the Council always likes the applicants to work with the neighbors and that the Council
does take into account the concerns raised by them. Sansevere commented he would like to hear from
the neighbors tonight but that it appears this might be a situation where the neighbors are simply
opposed to the construction of a house on this lot.
Kevin Kokesh, 1399 Orono Lane, stated he lives immediately adjacent to this lot and that his main issue
deals with the applicant's original plans to construct on Lot 1. Kokesh stated Outlot A was originally
intended to be the applicant's access to the lake. Kokesh stated the plans that were proposed previously
were not followed and that instead the applicant has clear -cut Outlot A.
Kokesh distributed pictures of the cutting to the Council. Kokesh stated the removal of the trees and the
excavation that has been done on this property has resulted in a dramatic change. Kokesh noted several
trees were cut in excess of the City's six -inch tree limit within 75 feet of the lake. Kokesh pointed out
County Road 15 is in this area and that the trees that were cut have now exposed County Road 15 to
their houses. is
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SHORELINE DRIVE, Continued)
Sansevere inquired how close the trees that were
Kokesh stated some trees were removed along the
removed in the mid section of the lot. -
Sansevere inquired if there were any trees located
Kokesh stated there have not been any trees along
this lot since 1956.
Sansevere inquired whether the City is aware of
Gaffron stated the cutting happened approximately
building inspector, review the cutting of the trees a
shoreline but that Staff was unable to determine wl
large amount of underbrush and buckthorn was ren
Gaffron stated a land alteration permit was issued t
allow for walking access to the lake. Gaffron state
Is combination and the amendment did not allow any
Lot 1. The amendment to the special lot combinati
area. Gaffron stated the applicant at that time was
the applicant to restore the vegetation in this area.
direction for the most part.
Sansevere inquired whether the applicant is
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HAMM,1391 FOX STREET, 1401
were to the lakeshore.
and that the majority of the trees were
the shoreline on Kokesh's property.
shoreline on his property and that he has lived on
clear - cutting on this property.
ve to six years ago and that he did, along with the
I found that there were some trees cut near the
ther the trees were alive or dead. Gaffron noted a
the applicant to lower the high point on the lot to
the provisions of the original special lot
ccessory use of the outlot until there was a house on
n established standards for the creation of a parking
A allowed a dock and that Staff has worked with
affron stated the applicant has followed Staff's
to plant some trees along the road.
McNaughton stated he is proposing a berm with trees and other plantings on top of it along County
Road 15. McNaughton commented a home on this lot would provide better sound proofing from the
noises off of County Road 15. I -
McNaughton distributed a photo to the Council showing the cuttings. McNaughton stated he primarily
removed brush and that the trees referred to by Mr.1 Kokesh were not located within the 0 -75' area.
Kokesh stated the main thrust of his whole argument was that the house was originally going to be
constructed on the lot across the road. I
Sansevere pointed out that plans and circumstances change for people over time.
Kokesh inquired whether the Council would allow the lots to be combined if a house were not to be
constructed on the lot. Kokesh stated the neighbors have a concern that there will be clear - cutting on
this lot again. I
• McNaughton stated their plans changed to construct a house across County Road 15 due to the amount
of traffic on County Road 15 and the danger of crossing the road to gain access to the lake.
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ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Monday, June 12, 2006
7:00 o'clock p.m.
(6. #06 -3196 PAT McNA UGHTOXIED WARD HAMM,1391 FOX STREET, 1401
SHORELINE DRIVE, Continued)
Sansevere stated in his view the applicant does not need to justify why his plans changed and the house
was not constructed.
Dana Wells, 1397 Orono Lane, illustrated the location of her house and indicated she would be opposed
to using that as a lot line. Wells requested the average lakeshore setback not be changed.
Gaffron displayed an aerial of the area.
Wells pointed out where the applicant is proposing his house.
Sansevere inquired what view of the lake would be damaged.
Wells invited the Council to visit her property to see the impact. Wells pointed out how her view would
be impacted.
Sansevere commented he does not see how Ms. Wells' view of the lake would be damaged if a house
were constructed on this lot.
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Gaffron stated in his view Ms. Wells' view of the lake would not be negatively impacted. Gaffron
illustrated the setbacks the house would need to comply with and that her view of the lake would not be
impacted. 0
Kempf pointed out the difference is that Ms. Wells would now have a view of a house instead of a
vacant lot.
Bill Byars, 1389 Orono Lane, stated he has resided in this area for the past three years and that his
concern deals with the unknowns of the application. Byars questioned the propriety of using an outlot
for one reason five years ago and now using it for something else. Byars stated if the lots are combined,
the Council should not grant setback variances until they have seen the final plans for the house, which
would help to alleviate some of the concerns. Byars commented they would like to preserve the
uniqueness of the neighborhood.
Byars requested the Council be careful on what approvals are granted given the unknowns until the
neighbors are better apprised on what the applicant is proposing for this lot. Byars noted every neighbor
has written a letter opposing this project.
Sansevere commented the Orono City Council takes every possible step to protect the rights of all the
residents and that the applicant will need to comply with the City's regulations.
Edward Callahan, Orono, stated he is appearing here as a representative of Mrs. Goetten, the previous
owner of the property. Callahan stated Mrs. Goetten's property is contiguous to the land that is in
question here, which is Outlot A and Lot 1. Callahan stated the agreement signed by Mrs. Goetten is
still in existence and would remain in effect until if and when the Council decided to revoke the
agreement.
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(6. #06 -3196 PAT McNAUGHTON /EDWARD HAMM,1391 FOX STREET, 1401
SHORELINE DRIVE, Continued)
Callahan reviewed the history of the land owned by Mrs. Goetten, with the intent of the Goettens to
separate Lots 1 and 2. Callahan stated there were a number of issues raised by the City and the Goettens
were not willing to approve the division of the two lots unless Outlot A were combined with Lot 1 so as
to conform to the City's requirement of a two acre buildable lot. Callahan stated in order for the City to
get conformity with its policies and zoning laws, the City approved the division and that it is not his
recollection of the approval that it was meant to be a temporary policy.
Callahan stated there should be something about t
the changing of the policy rather than the Council
on what has been submitted and discussed concer
policy and that approval of the application by the
policies or some other circumstances that dictate
:)itrarily changing the policy. Callahan stated based
g this application, there is no basis to change the
uncil would be setting a dangerous precedent.
Callahan stated one of the actual factors to consider is the taking of the economic benefits that would be
enjoyed by the Goettens away if this application is approved. Callahan commented adoption of the
resolution would also be contrary to the City's zoning code and would be setting a bad precedent
because the approval in effect would say to a property owner who owns a two -acre buildable piece of
property that he would be able to sell a strip of land ,to his neighbor. Callahan requested the Council
consider the repercussions approval of the application would have on the City's zoning code.
• Callahan further pointed out that a hardship does not exist to grant the lot line rearrangement. Callahan
stated it is his understanding it is the City's desire to protect the lake and that once these two lots are
combined and a driveway is constructed on the outlot and a house is built, there would be additional
runoff into the lake. Callahan noted the Hamm lot was assessed for sewer and was considered a
buildable lot by the City. Callahan pointed out that whatever house is constructed on the lot would be
restricted and that it would be a better policy decision for the City to not allow construction of a house
on the lot in order to protect the lake.
McNaughton pointed out that the Goettens received fair market value for the land and that she did
receive economic benefit from the special arrangement. McNaughton noted there are hardships to
having the lot across County Road 15 due to safety concerns as well as the fact that Hennepin County
feels the present access is unsafe.
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Murphy inquired whether the applicant was aware
the property.
McNaughton stated he was not aware.
Murphy commented the applicant could perhaps
McNaughton reiterated his concern regarding the sa
attempting to achieve safe access to the lake by the
Barry Cavalanski, 1399 Orono Lane, stated safety
and that the driveway as proposed is very close to
delineated survey has been conducted on this prof
the traffic on County Road 15 prior to purchasing
done better due diligence prior to purchase.
y of crossing County Road 15 and that he is
line rearrangement.
a concern with many of the Orono Lane residents,
bus pickup point. Cavalanski inquired whether a
y and whether the application before the Council
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(6. #06 -3196 PAT McNA UGHTONIED WARD HAMM, 1391 FOX STREET, 1401
SHORELINE DRIVE, Continued)
tonight is requesting any variances. Cavalanski stated in his opinion the driveway is better on the
County Road 15 side and would allow a house to fit better on the lot.
Gaffron stated the application includes a request for lot area variances and it does not request a
hardcover variance or any setback variances. Gaffron stated any variances that would be requested to
construct a house would need to come before the Council but that it is possible to construct a house on
this lot without the need for variances and would therefore not need to come back for council approval.
Cavalanski inquired whether there is a building permit yet.
Gaffron stated the application includes a conceptually designed house to illustrate how a house could be
constructed on this lot. Gaffron stated the need for variances would need to be determined at the time
an application is submitted. Gaffron reiterated there is a possibility that this application will not appear
before the Council again if the property owner designs a house that meets all of the City's requirements.
Gaffron stated the existing curb cut is very close to County Road 15 and does not meet the City's
standards.
Cavalanski commented that the County did relocate his driveway. Cavalanski inquired whether Mr.
Hamm also owns other land in this area. •
Gaffron stated this situation is extremely unique where the City has granted lot area variances to create a
new lot. Gaffron stated there are no other properties within the city that are separated by both a railroad
and a highway.
Richard Noland, 1395 Orono Lane, stated he would like to inform the Council that the neighbors'
concerns are much greater than their views of this property. Noland stated he has talked with David
Zetterstrom from the State Highway Department and that the City is misinterpreting Mr. Zetterstrom's
April 13 letter and that the County is not expressing support of this lot combination. Noland stated the
exit that comes into Orono Lane is located in the right turn exit coming west onto County Road 15 from
Orono Lane.
Craig Moen, 1387 Orono Lane, inquired whether a representative for Mr. Hamm attended the Planning
Commission meeting.
Gaffron stated there was not.
Moen inquired whether that was a requirement.
Gaffron read the language to the Council concerning applications and stated it has been Staff s
understanding all along that Mr. Hamm was going to be represented by Mr. McNaughton. Gaffron
stated he is not aware of a specific city code that requires a representative appear at the Planning
Commission.
Moen inquired whether Mr. Hamm has indicated that the property would be sold to Mr. McNaughton. 0
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(6. #06 -3196 PAT McNA UGHTOXIED WARD HAMM, 1391 FOX STREET, 1401
SHORELINE DRIVE, Continued)
McNaughton stated Mr. Hamm has received all the
Gaffron stated Mr. Hamm still owns this parcel of
Moen expressed a concern that the City does not
property would be sold to Mr. McNaughton
McMillan stated the biggest advantage of combinin
the 1401 lot is a buildable lot because it was assess(
lot off of Orono Lane. McMillan inquired whether
Gaffron stated there was not an easement granted.
McMillan stated granting an easement after the fa
with outlots along the lake and that people in the
she is respectful of what the Council did in the 19
combination and would probably vote in favor of
from the City concerning this application.
and has not made any transfer of land.
any firm documentation evidencing that this
these two lots is the safety issue. McMillan stated
for sewer and that there should be access to that
i easement was provided to the Hamm property.
can become messy and that she also has a concern
A have placed docks on outlots. McMillan stated
s but that she sees a lot of sense in the new
application.
White stated he is inclined to side with ex -mayor Callahan and that a larger house on the lake is
• detrimental to the lake. White stated he would like to see a plan prior to approving the combination
since there is no guarantee that any proposed house would appear before the Council.
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Murphy indicated he concurs with the comments i
see a plan prior to approving the combination. M-
difference in how these lots were created and that
without a formal plan in front of them.
Murphy stated he is not surprised by the absence c
formal document evidencing that Mr. McNaughtoi
Murphy suggested McNaughton obtain ownership
Murphy stated he does have concerns with the sa:
the County to improve that interchange. Murphy
currently exists in that interchange remaining the:
Sansevere stated he agrees that there needs to be m
land to Mr. McNaughton. Sansevere commented tl
approvals by the City can be reversed or changed.
point someone is going to construct a house on that
the lots were combined.
Gaffron stated a smaller house would need to be
Murphy stated he is not going to make a decision
property.
Acting Mayor White and that he would also like to
)hy stated the history does not make much
has a concern about undoing the agreement
Mr. Hamm, but that he would like to see some
will be purchasing this property from Mr. Hamm.
o Lot 1 and then come back before the Council.
of that intersection and that the City has petitioned
-d he is not able to count on anything that
re documentation concerning the future sale of this
at nothing is written in stone and that previous
iansevere noted that lot is restricted but that at some
site. Sansevere inquired how big a home could be if
without Outlot A.
he sees evidence that Mr. McNaughton owns the
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Monday, June 12, 2006
7:00 o'clock p.m.
(6. #06 -3196 PAT McNA UGHTON /EDWARD HAMM,1391 FOX STREET, 1401
SHORELINE DRIVE, Continued)
McNaughton stated the sale of the property is contingent upon the lot line being rearranged and that it
would be difficult to bring in documentation evidencing sale of the land if approval is not granted.
Murphy moved, White seconded, to deny Application #06 -3196, Pat McNaughton/Edward Hamm,
1391 Fox Street, 1401 Shoreline Drive. VOTE: Ayes 2, Nays 2, McMillan and Sansevere
Opposed. MOTION FAILS. . ,
Sansevere moved to table Application #06 -3196, Pat McNaughton/Edward Hamm, 1391 Fox
Street, 1401 Shoreline Drive.
McNaughton inquired whether the City has the preliminary plat showing all the elevations.
Gaffron noted it is the first exhibit in the Council's packet.
MOTION FAILED DUE TO LACK OF SECOND.
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McMillan moved to approve Application #06 -3196, Pat McNaughton/Edward Hamm, 1391 Fox
Street, 1401 Shoreline Drive, with the condition that the Council review any house and
landscaping plans, especially as it relates to average lakeshore setback, location of the house, and
hardcover. •
Gaffron inquired at what point in time the plans should be brought before the Council.
McMillan stated prior to plat approval.
Sansevere seconded.
Sansevere stated he would suggest that Mr. McNaughton show the neighbors the plans for this property.
Murphy inquired what variances are included in the motion.
Gaffron stated in order to approve the application that is before the Council tonight, the council would
be granting a lot area variance for both lots. Gaffron noted there are no setback variances required but
that an average lakeshore setback should be determined. Gaffron stated the special lot combination
would also be undone. Gaffron stated in essence preliminary plat approval is being granted and that the
motion would require formal plans to be submitted prior to final plat approval.
Sansevere stated that is his understanding of the motion made by Council Member McMillan.
Gaffron stated the disadvantage to this motion is that if Mr. McNaughton elects not to construct on this
process, the City would have plat approval for a house that may not be constructed.
McMillan inquired whether those conditions would be attached to the lot of record.
Gaffron stated he is unsure whether those conditions would be attached, and suggested that a time limit
be placed on which the applicant has to submit a final plat. •
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Monday, Jt lne 12, 2006
• 7:00 o'clock p.m.
(6. #06 -3196 PAT McNAUGHTON/EDWA1
SHORELINE DRIVE, Continued)
Moorse suggested a condition also be included in
the lot until a landscaping plan is submitted.
McMillan amended her motion, Sansevere sece
VOTE: Ayes 2, Nays 2, White and Murphy OF
Sansevere moved, McMillan seconded, to table
Hamm, 1391 Fox Street/1401 Shoreline Drive.
HAMM, 1391 FOX STREET, 1401
motion protecting the trees that are currently on
to include protection of the trees.
. MOTION FAILED.
:ation #06 -3196, Pat McNaughton/Edward
: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
Noland requested that the Orono Lane residents who', are in opposition of this application be notified of
any new activity on this application. Noland stated he would also like to have some evidence showing
who is going to be the owner of this property.
McNaughton stated he has a purchase agreement
willing to speak with the neighbors tonight folloi
*7. #06 -3198 GREG AND CINDY HA
RESOLUTION NO. 5476
Mr. Hamm. McNaughton stated he would be
his application.
3320 FOX STREET — VARIANCE —
. Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to adopt RESOLUTION NO. 5476, a Resolution Granting a
Variance to the Average Lakeshore Setback for the property located at 3320 Fox Street.
VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0. 1
8. #06 -3200 HICKORY FINE HOMES, 1374 REST POINT ROAD — VARIANCE
Steve Bohl, Developer, and Gary Gangstee, Applicant, were present.
Gaffron stated the applicant is requesting a number of variances to rebuild on a property located on Rest
Point Road. The lot consists of .65 acre where 1.0 acre is required. The applicant's initial request was
for 8.1 percent of hardcover in the 0 -75' zone and to retain nonconforming accessory structures in the 0-
75' zone and lakeward of the average setback. In addition, the applicants have requested hardcover of
32.9 percent in the 75 -250' zone.
Gaffron indicated the applicants have since provided a revised plan that reduces the proposed house
footprint slightly and reduces the patios around the pool. The proposed 0 -75' hardcover is reduced to
6.77 percent, excluding the necessary wood steps to the lake. The proposed 75 -250' hardcover is
reduced to 29.77 percent, but still proposes to retain ! he nonconforming accessory structures.
The Planning Commission held a public hearing on May 15, after which the Planning Commission
suggested the applicant remove the nonconformities land get the 75 -250' zone down to 25 percent as has
commonly been required for lakeshore rebuilds on lots this size. The Planning Commission initially
tabled the application and then at the request of the applicant voted 5 -0 to recommend denial and
• forward the application to the Council.
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Monday, June 12, 2006
7:00 o'clock p.m. •
(8. #06 -3200 HICKORY FINE HOMES, 1374 REST POINT ROAD, Continued)
From Staff's perspective, while the pool is an attractive amenity for this site, it results in excess
hardcover and Staff fails to see a hardship to allow it to remain in conjunction with building a new home
on the site, especially based on its nonconforming location.
Bohl stated the main issue is the pool, which relates to hardcover, and that he requested the Council hear
the application rather than having it tabled. Bohl stated the pool is very important to the Gangstees and
that they have reduced the size of the home in an effort to keep the pool. Bohl noted the pool has been
there for a long time. Bohl noted the hot tub was removed and the size of the house reduced.
Bohl stated the neighbors did raise some concerns regarding drainage on the western side of the lot but
that there is no opposition to the house or the pool.
Sansevere inquired what the hardship is for retaining the pool.
Bohl stated the existing house is located closer to the road and that the proposed house is pushed back
farther, which does not allow the pool to be moved forward, which is a hardship in his view. Bohl
commented the existing conditions are being improved by shifting the house further back on the lot.
Gangstee stated in addition it was represented to the previous owners that the pool was outside of the
0 -75' zone.
Sansevere inquired how far the pool encroaches into the 0 -75' zone. •
Gaffron stated the pool is located 67 feet from the shore and the patio is 63 feet.
Murphy inquired how long the pool has been in existence.
Gangstee stated since 1987.
Murphy inquired whether the pool could be moved.
Gangstee indicated he is unsure.
Bohl stated between the house and the pool there is a five -foot retaining wall and they are proposing
some grading in this area so the grade at the first floor elevation and the pool would be more of a
gradual slope. Bohl stated the closer the pool is brought to the house, the greater the need for a retaining
wall.
Sansevere stated due to the fact that this is a rebuild, the City Council has to remain consistent and not
allow any encroachments in the 0 -75' zone. Sansevere stated it would be unfair to allow this
encroachment but not the other residents who have approached the City requesting an encroachment in
the 0 -75' zone.
Gaffron stated out of six lots that were roughly the same size, four of them had hardcover around 28
percent. Gaffron stated this application is out of the range for hardcover granted to other similar lots. •
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(8. #06 -3200 HICKORY FINE HOMES, 137 1 REST POINT ROAD, Continued)
Sansevere commented the hardcover granted in the past on similar lots does not change the
encroachment into the 0 -75' zone. 'I
Sansevere inquired whether the applicants have
White commented the City has had a number of
0 -75' zone that have been denied and that the Cc
White suggested this application be tabled to give
with Staff.
Murphy commented it is a lot easier to remove
is somewhat sympathetic to the situation.
McMillan stated she has the same view as
Gaffron inquired what percent hardcover would be
Murphy stated the applicant is attempting to do an
agree to any percent in a motion at this point in tin
into moving the pool.
)us applications requesting encroachment into the
needs to be consistent.
applicant an opportunity to discuss his options
types of hardcover than to move a pool and that he
Murphy.
in the 75 -250' zone.
lot on this lot and that he would be reluctant to
Sansevere commented any agreement to increase the hardcover above 25 percent would merely be to
allow a bigger pool than what could be constructed 'at 25 percent.
Bohl stated the overlay of the new house and
exists. Bohl indicated it was their goal to not
pool.
Murphy commented he is reluctant to say that he
zone in order to allow a pool.
Bohl inquired if the application is tabled whether
Commission again or the City Council.
White suggested Staff determine whether the
Commission.
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to table
Rest Point Road. VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
is within a couple hundred feet of what currently
the hardcover over what exists except for the
allow additional hardcover within the 75 -250'
would need to appear before the Planning
application should go before the Planning
#06 -3200, Hickory Fine Homes, 1374
9. 06 -3201 DAVID CARLSON OF WILSON MANAGEMENT FOR CHARLIE
THOMPSON, 875 WAYZATA BOULEVARD }NEST — COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
AMENDMENT
Steve Johnston; David Carlson, Wilson Management; Charlie Thompson, property owner, were present.
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ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Monday, June 12, 2006
7:00 o'clock p.m.
(9. 06 -3201 DAVID CARLSON OF WILSONMANAGEMENT FOR CHARLIE THOMPSON,
875 WAYZATA BOULEVARD WEST, Continued)
Gaffron stated the applicants are requesting an amendment to the comprehensive plan to allow
development of this site at an urban residential density of two units per acre to accommodate six 2 -unit
townhomes. The property is currently guided for rural residential use at a density of one unit per two
acres.
The Planning Commission, on a vote of 3 -2, recommended approval of an amendment to the Orono
Comprehensive Plan to allow for some unspecified level of increased density, potentially up to two units
per dry buildable acre, in the range of 8 -12 units for this specific site; final density and number of units
relies on a variety of factors discussed at the Planning Commission meeting.
The Council should review the application and determine whether there are sufficient and compelling
reasons to re -guide the property to allow for urban density development, and if such reasons are present,
consider what goals or standards should be established to minimize any negative impacts of the urban
density within the defined rural area.
Carlson illustrated the layout of the units on the site and the proposed exterior design for the units.
Carlson pointed out there are two different garages with varying roof elevations and two separate
entrances. The majority of the living would be done on the main level, with the units being geared
towards empty- nesters. Carlson displayed the interior layout of the units, which consists of
approximately 2200 square feet, with an optional four- season porch.
Carlson displayed how the gateway into the City of Long Lake would look with this development and
the landscaping proposed for this area. Carlson suggested this portion of the property be turned over to
the City after two years in lieu of park dedication fees.
Carlson stated they have four units already sold contingent upon City approval, which demonstrates
the marketability of this type of development. Carlson noted they are one -story units as compared to a
two -story residential home and that the majority of the neighbors, with the exception of one gentleman,
are in favor of this development.
McMillan pointed out this area has very good access to the Luce Line.
Carlson noted the type of people who would reside in this type of development would not utilize their
yards or decks much and would probably spend the winters in a warmer climate.
Johnston stated all the trees that are currently in the right -of -way would remain with this development
and that they intend to maintain a significant buffer on the other sides of the property. Johnston stated
the existing driveway would also remain.
Johnston expressed a concern that they would not be able to have three septic sites available on the
property.
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Sansevere commented that the amount of money to be gained off of this development is considerably
less if three single - family homes were constructed. •
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GEMENT FOR CHARLIE THOMPSON,
Johnston stated three homes would not justify the lift station or the joint powers agreement that would
be necessary. 'I
Johnston noted the layout has been revised to meet t
unit to meet the buffer and would require a variance
proposal would remain essentially the same as what
pulled away from old Highway 12. Johnston stated
trees that exist and that they are planning on suppler
McMillan stated she has an issue with changing the
only one small aspect to be considered when propw
consider changing the comprehensive plan for a slid
septic sites were truly a problem.
wetland buffer but that they are unable on one .
Johnston indicated the access roadway under their
xists, with the majority of the buildings being
stering would allow them to retain the row of
ting those trees.
ty's Comprehensive Plan and that marketability is
such a change. McMillan stated she would
increase in density or if it was determined that
Johnston stated in his opinion there would need to be a joint powers agreement regarding the water.
McMillan commented in her view the density is too
zoning similar to the one -acre zoning that is found ii
Johnston pointed out this project site more closely rf
the density is approximately the same as the adjoinii
McMillan stated she would probably only consider <
Sansevere stated he has less of an issue with density
how close the most western villa is located to the Lu
Johnston stated that unit is 31 feet from the
Luce Line.
McMillan inquired whether there is a building setba
Gaffron stated this would likely end up as a RPUD ,
setbacks it feels are appropriate.
Johnston pointed out that the existing homes in Lon
McMillan expressed a concern about urban creep if
Murphy commented he has a difficult time envision
pointed out that other uses for this property would r
of the issues that should be considered is access to t
generate less traffic. Murphy stated he would be in
he would like to see the two lower units eliminated.
.igh for this parcel and that she would prefer
different pockets throughout the city.
tes to what is happening in Long Lake and that
area.
zoning for this site.
ien the location of the site. Sansevere inquired
Line.
and would be approximately 83 feet from the
to the Luce Line.
that the Council could establish whatever
Lake are approximately 65 feet from Luce Line.
Comprehensive Plan is changed.
three single- family homes on this site and
zire a conditional use permit. Murphy stated one
land in this area and that the proposed use would
for of changing the comprehensive plan but that
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ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Monday, June 12, 2006
7:00 o'clock p.m.
(9. 06 -3201 DAVID CARLSON OF WILSON MANA GEMENT FOR CHARLIE THOMPSON,
875 WAYZATA BOULEVARD WEST, Continued)
White stated this site is a challenge to develop given the two heavily traveled roads and the surrounding
density. White stated he has a difficult time envisioning single - family housing in this area and that
changing the comprehensive plan in this area would have less impact than other areas of the city. White
inquired how, the drainage would be handled on the site.
Johnston stated some retaining walls would be necessary and that there would also be a slight swale.
Sansevere stated in his view the units should conform to the wetland buffer.
Carlson stated if one of the two units were eliminated, it would meet the wetland buffer, but that he
would prefer to retain both units to keep the visual appeal.
Carlson noted they need four votes to change the comprehensive plan.
McMillan stated she is not in support of changing the Comprehensive Plan due to the amount of density
being proposed. McMillan reiterated she would be agreeable to one acre zoning for this site.
Johnston inquired if Commissioner McMillan had a number in mind for the units.
McMillan commented there are a number of pockets throughout the City that are one -acre and that she
would like to stay with that type of density. Is
Johnston stated if the one unit were eliminated, the density would be 1.7 units per acre or .06 units per
acre.
McMillan indicated she would like to stay with the zoning categories that the City currently has.
Sansevere moved, Murphy seconded, to table Application #06 -3201, David Carlson of Wilson
Management for Charlie Thompson, 875 Wayzata Boulevard West — Comprehensive Plan
Amendment. VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
*10. #06 -3203 PETER JOHNSON FOR JAMIE WILSON, 745 SPRING HILL ROAD —
VARIANCE — RESOLUTION NO. 5477
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to adopt RESOLUTION NO. 5477, a Resolution granting a
lakeshore setback variance for expansion of the existing garage /guest house at 745 Spring Hill
Road. VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
11. CITY OF ORONO, ORDINANCE: BUILDING HEIGHT, LOT WIDTH, AGGREGATE
SETBACKS
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to table Item No. 11, City of Orono, Ordinance: Building
Height, Lot Width, Aggregate Setbacks — Ordinance, to a work session. VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
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MINUTES OF THE
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Monday, June 12, 2006
7:00 o'cl ck p.m.
MAYOR/COUNCIL REPORT
McMillan noted a letter of thanks to the staff was received from Camp Teko.
White stated there was a complaint from the owners'of the Navarre Hardware Store regarding the
parking in this area. White indicated an event was held at the Narrows Saloon at the same time the
hardware store had scheduled a big sidewalk sale and that the patrons of the Narrows Saloon utilized all
the parking, which made it very difficult for customers of the hardware store to find parking.
Murphy noted the opening day for the Youth Learning Institute at the park on Big Island was a
smashing success and that the City should thank the people who helped make the park possible.
CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT
*12. SEAL COAT PROJECT FOR CITY
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to au
coat project. VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
— ADVERTISEMENT FOR BIDS
the advertisement for bids for the 2006 seal-
*13. LIQUIDATION OF SURPLUS FORFEITED VEHICLES
• Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to approve the sale of a 1983 Cadillac and a 1991
Oldsmobile at the Orono Police Department by a, sealed bid process. VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to approve the sale of the following vehicles: 1998 Chevrolet
Pickup, 1995 Lincoln Continental, 1992 Chrysler Van, 1997 Pontiac 4 -door, and a 1993 Ford 4D
LXE through Minneapolis Auto Auction at a cosi of not to exceed $282 per car.
VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
*14. DISPOSAL OF SURPLUS AUTOS
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to approve the sale of four surplus police department
vehicles through Minneapolis Auto Auction at a cost of $282 per car. The four cars to be
liquidated are: 2001 Dodge Caravan, 2003 Ford Crown Victoria, 2003 Ford Crown Victoria, and
a 2000 Ford Crown Victoria. VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
*15. 2005 GENERAL AND SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS BUDGET AMENDMENTS
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to approve the 2005 budget amendments for the General
and Special Revenue Funds as presented. VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
*16. COMPENSATION FOR ACTING POICE CHIEF DUTIES
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to approvelthe adjustment of the pay rate of Correy Farniok
to Step 1 of the Level 9 Salary Range, for the period of the Police Chiefs absence.
VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
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ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Monday, June 12, 2006
7:00 o'clock p.m.
*17. APPOINTMENT OF TREASURER
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to appoint Ron Olson as Treasurer. VOTE: Ayes 4,.Nays 0.
*18. APPOINTMENT OF GOLF COURSE SEASONAL EMPLOYEE
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to approve the appointment of Ed Kvam to a seasonal
position with the Golf Course, effective June 10, 2006, at a pay rate of $8.00 per hour.
VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT
None
*19. LICENSES
Garbage Hauler Licenses
1. Baldy Sanitation
5906 Henry Street
Maple Plain, MN 55359
Special Event Permits •
2. Applicant: Carey Nordling
Event: Amateur Fishing Tournament
Location: Maxwell Bay Public Access
Date: Sunday, June 18, 2006
Time: 5:30 a.m. -2:00 p.m.
3. Applicant: Deb Rozaboom
Event: Yard Wedding for Approximately 150 guests.
Location: 2967 Casco Point Road
Date: August 12, 2006 -
Time: 4:30 p.m. 11:30 p.m.; Music from 7:30 p.m. -11:00 p.m.
4. Applicant: Steve Bren/Connie Piepho
Event: Wedding Reception for Approximately 150 guests
Location: 540 North Arm Drive
Date: July 1, 2006
Time: 4:00 p.m. — 1:00 a.m.; Music from 5:00 p.m. —10:30 p.m.
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to approve the above licenses. VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
*20. BILLS
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to approve payment of the All Funds account.
VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0. 0
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MINUTES OF THE
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Monday, June 12, 2006
• 7:00 o'clock p.m.
ADJOURNMENT
Murphy moved, Sansevere seconded, to adjourn, he meeting at 10:24 p.m. VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays
0.
ATTEST:
Linda S. Vee, City Clerk
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