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Home My WebLink About2011-00429-voided �� 2011-06-07 07;38 DYUIG 9529388792 » +9522494616 f P 112 , � City of Orono Building Permit Application for Internal Work � (windows� doors� siding, re-roof, etc.� Meiling Address� Permil numbe�: O//-b6 cj .¢�,� PO Box 66 � Q Crystal Bay, MN 5532�0066 Date�eceived: / a � srreef add�ess: Rec�ired by: 3�, 2750 Keller Psrkwsy Plen review fee: �� Orono,MN 553b6 -- Totel F@�: Mein, 952-24S�G00 Fax: 952-249-4816 www,ci,oro�o.mn.us This applicabon inrtn must be complete4 in full�nd all required information must be submitted, Incomplote appllcatlons wlll be retumed. (Please prin�) GENERAL INFORMA710N; Q I J �/�/�� I��S O J�� n/1� ��n� �'rj� s�3� � Job 8fte Addnss: 0 /`� V �V WIII this be a Pw�de of Homas,Remodvlers Showcase Home or other Dlap ay Home? Yes No If yw,e spectiel erent pBmtlt!s/eqvired wrM Polbe Depe/hnenf end CNy Council epprvvel BO deys prior to the evenL Shuttllie bus will be requlred unkss epplfaent demonsbstea auJflclent on-sl(�parklnp!s evolleble. Non permltted events wIN not De allowad, CONTRACTOR I APPLICANT INFORMATION: � Name: MA�' L • � State Licenae# pb � o Expiration Dete: 3 ' I ' 0 3 Lead Certification Number; N l�- ��r 19�i Expiration Date: /V (foi►+rork on hamas ti+at wwo wcted prlor(p 1978 Phone: � - S�-- (ottice) s� � �'��`� (celq ��ySL Mailing Address: �k� - � �. City: '��Q Gy� ZIP: j $� �1 Confact Person: -�orn�S �Yd�Sr Applicant is: ontrac / Homeowner (CIrcNOn�) Emall and/or Fax: p�� q ��e o p mQ� tr �� PROPERTY OWN�R INFORMATION: n�r� �L S��n„L�S y LA� Name: �y Phone(day): � _ ( � Addr�ss: �5 '/� L/1eSS c�cy: 02dhD Z�P: J s3 Email andlor Fax �n A • (' � PROJECT INFORMATION: T�rpe of ProJect Any oortt�movomeM may requlre Q Door(s) []Remodel []Water Damaye MCWD review 8 permib: Minneheha Creek Wetershed Dfatrfci(MCWD) ❑wndow(s) []Repeir ❑Storm Damafle 18202 Minnetonka Blvd ❑Slding ❑Restoration �Other: (speciy) Deephaven,MN 55391 Phone; 852�71-0590 ❑Re-roof ❑ Fire Damage E� � Fex: 952-471-0682 (S�, A�'Ik www.minnehahec►aeK,OrQ Overall Pro eet DescMptlon: x p� rn� . 5� on� IOX�M d o �ci � �' ` ��,� EstlmAted Constructlon Veluatlon of Pro ect excludln land) s ..d n �� APPLICANT ACKNOWLEDQEMENT: . Agrees to provide all Intortnetlon required or requested by the Building Depertmenl; • Ce�tifies that the information aupplied is true and correct lo the best a�hls/�'�er knowledge. The�pplicant recognizes that lh@y �re solely�esperosible (or submittting e compkte applicatlon being eware tha!upon failute lo do so,the ataff has no eltemallve but to reJeCi it until it ia complete; • Some or all ot the infortnetion that you are asked to provide on this spplicetivn Is claesified by Stete lew �a elther ptivate or confide�tiaL Privete dals Is informaUon which generally cannot be given to the public but cen be glven to tl�e aub�ect of the dats. ConfldenUal dsta is information which generelly cannot be given to either the public or the Bubject of the dals. Our purpose and intended use of thia informetion la to ennuelly update ou�records and �ecords a�F other governmentel agencies r uired b lew, li ou refuee to�u I 1he informetion 1ho e liceliom m �v1 bo iaaued. Applicant's Signature: � D�te: S �d� n„� � �.._,� .. ,..��.. , , � ,� 2011-06-07 07;39 DYVIG 9529388792 » +9522494616 P 212 � � ��I� ��Pin��rm a— .�--. ^ l ��I� � ss 0�� I , �y : �yv, C�S��,� �I� � �. � �Sz,4�z�aaa� , l � �� N� � �. �� ,5��n �� T � � 2�, - _.� � � x � � � , —, � �) �ey� ��y,�s I�n p,q � I J � � � . ,� / �� A� `-��.` �`� �� - � —� � c�� _ � -�-� . � �'' ��bl �� i��, _ _ � .�� 1 '� � — ' � x g "' � ��1 �� P �Pc�l �' �� o �+�f tl� �v�� . � � � �'' ��k ek��-� �o �� ' x� �;s' � . � Melanie Curtis From: Melanie Curtis Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 9:03 AM To: 'Anna Hyland' Subject: RE: FW: 1815 Fagerness Pt Anna Thank you for the update. I will put this in your file and void the permit. Please contact me if you have any further questions or if you would like to discuss future projects at your home. Melanie Melanie Curtis Planning & Zoning Coordinator City of Orono 2750 Kelley Parkway Orono, MN 55356 Direct Dial: 952.249.4627 Fax: 952.249.4616 Planning &Zoning Office 952.249.4620 Email: mcurtisCa�ci.orono.mn.us Website: www.ci.orono.mn.us Summer Office Hours (Monday, May 23rd to Friday, September 2nd) Monday -Thursday 7:30 am to 5:00 pm Friday 7:30 am to 11:30 am From: Anna Hyland [mailto:annahyland42@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 2:21 PM To: Melanie Curtis Subject: Re: FW: 1815 Fagerness Pt Hello Melanie, After much thought, we have decided not to pursue expanding our deck. Due to the City's request, for a site survey and the additional costs we would assume, we have decided to cancel the entire project. Our project budget would double fulfilling the permit requirements. Thank you for educating us on the process of residential building and the City of Orono requirements. Your time and information has been useful. ��,��,��.�� Anna Garcia Hyland phone: 216.407.9711 email: annahvland42(�a,��mail.com new address: 1815 Fagerness Point Road Wayzata, MN 55391 i � On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Melanie Curtis <MCurtis(a�ci.orono.mn.us> wrote: Anna As we discussed yesterday I pulled out the previous permit and reviewed the detaiL That information is attached. Our building official also reviewed the plans. The 2010 plans don't appear to include the project for the deck for which you are currently seeking a permit. The survey requirements from my previous email (attached) still apply. Please call me if you have further questions. Melanie �Iclanie Curtis Plannin�&Loning Courdinator Ciq�of Orono 27�0 Kcllec Parkwa�� Oroi�o,MN»356 Direct Dial: 952.249.4627 Fax: 952.249.4616 Planning&Zonin�Oftice 952249.4620 limail: mcurtisnci.orono.mn.us �'cbsitc: www.ci.orono.mn.us Summer Oflice Hours(Monday,May 23rd to Friday,September 2nd) Monday-Thursday 7:30 am to 5:00 pm Friday 7:30 am to 11:30 am 2 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Melanie Curtis <MCurtis�,ci.orono.mn.us> To: "'d�gdevelopments ,q.com"' <d��developments(�a,q.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:34:48 -0500 Subject: 1815 Fagerness Rd/ Building Permit Ap #2011-00429 Thomas We have received the faxed building permit application for 1815 Fagerness Point Road requesting to expand an existing deck. We require additional information to be submitted in order for our review to continue. In 2010 a permit was issued for an expansion of the kitchen and at that time the permitee and property owner were notified that further expansion projects on the property would require submittal of an updated survey. Please see the attached permit detail as well and the most current survey the City has on file for the property. The property is located in the shoreland overlay district and hardcover restrictions apply. I have included a map to illustrate that there may be a Manage 1 wetland on your property. Hardcover regulations can be found under City Code Section 78-1288 and the wetland regulations begin at City Code section 78-1601. Our City Zoning Code can be found online here: htt�•//IibrarLmunicode.com/HTML/13094/level2/TITVILAUS CH78ZORE.html Prior to any further expansion of your home or decks a wetland delineation, revised hardcover calculations and a revised survey will be required. I will be out of the office this afternoon through Monday; I apologize for this inconvenience. If you have questions regarding this email prior to my return please contact Christine Mattson, Planning Assistant at 952.249.4620. Thank you, Melanie 1lelanie Curtis Planning&"I_onine Courdin�itur Cit��of Orono 27�0 Kelle}�Park�ca} Orono.MN�i3�6 Direct Dial: 952.249.4627 I ax: 952.249.4616 3 Melanie Curtis From: Melanie Curtis Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:33 AM To: 'Anna Hyland' Cc: Annas Husband Seamus Subject: RE: FW: 1815 Fagerness Pt Hello Anna. My responses to your questions are below in RED. MelAnie �uv�is � `�52.2�R.�62� � �ncuv}i5��i.ovono.mn.u5 From: Anna Hyland [mailto:annahyland42@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:44 PM To: Melanie Curtis Cc: Anna's contact Info; Annas Husband Seamus Subject: Re: FW: 1815 Fagerness Pt Melanie, Then your office is informing me that the contracted builder (from the of summer 2010) did not submit the deck plans with the original permit request to the Orono office. Another ball dropped by last year's contractor builder! I do have have some concerns regarding the copies you forward to me. I had not seen these before • The permit# 00410 copy you forward to me, which states that a site survey would be requested if there was additional build, was initialed by "CD" not me or my husband. The contractor builder's name is: Charles from KMS Associates. I question that a "contracted" employee can sign agreements for my property without my consent. This notation is not construed as an agreement. It is a courtesy advisory notification only. The signature is an acknowledgement by the builder that he has seen the advisory comment, not that he agrees to it on the property owner's behalf.The fact that the builder never provided the owner with a copy of the issued permit is between the owner and the builder. The fact that the City issued a permit with this advisory has no bearing on whether the owner is now required to provide a survey in order to obtain a permit for additional work not covered by the prior permit. • The permit# 00410 copy you forward to me has the owner listed as McKee, Mr. & Mrs. Melvin. This is incorrect. At the time of the permit request my husband and I were the property owner. The paperwork I have in my possession from KMS and Charles states "Hyland". The City's permit system defaults to the owner currently listed in Hennepin County tax records at the time of permit issuance. At the time, perhaps less than a month after you purchased the property,the County records probably still showed the prior owners' name. Perhaps we should have noted the inconsistency between what printed out on the permit and who was listed on as owner on the application. Perhaps the contractor should have also noted this inconsistency, as he was acting as the agent for the owners. Nevertheless, a permit was issued to the builder for the kitchen remodel including the addition over the existing deck. � ' Is the City of Orono aware that it is requesting from us to: • Assume additional costs (in the thousands of dollars) which we do not have additional budget for this project • To postpone (or terminate) employment for our new contracted builder and his staff due to the time delay • To deny income to our new contracted builder and his staff due to this delay • To personally incur fuel and additional costs during the interviewing process for a vendor to survey the property • Surveys cost between $2,500 to $5,000! These are not issues the City will address. The City is fully aware of the cost of surveys and how the construction process operates. Those are factors inherent in every project and do not influence administration of the City's building permit requirements. I want to understand the following: 1. What is the full purpose of the survey? The purpose of the survey is to document the existing and proposed conditions and to allow for an analysis of the proposal to ensure it meets code standards. 2. How does this extra paper work support the needs of the City of Orono? This is not'extra paperwork', it is required information needed to accomplish the purpose of ensuring the proposal meets code requirements. 3. Is the City aware that surveys cost between $2,500 to $5,000? The City is aware of the cost of surveys. One way to minimize the cost of survey work is to use the same surveyor that has done prior surveys of the property, to take advantage of existing data they may already have. 4. Who reviews this document once it has been submitted? City staff review the submitted information, involving City consultants (engineer, wetlands specialist, etc) if the nature of the work warrants. 5. If surveys are a norm for the City, then why is it the responsibility of the property owner to pay for a survey? The City does not perform survey work; it requires that property owners provide surveys as part of a building permit application process. 6. Why would I be requested to pay between $1,500 to $5,000 for a survey which goes to your office gratis? The City has ordinances that require a property owner to provide the necessary information to allow for adequate analysis of a building project to ensure that all code requirements are met. An up-to-date, accurate survey is one of those required pieces of information.The City does not do survey work for any private property owners. 7. Perhaps the City would like to share in the cost of the survey? The City will not share in the cost of private survey work. The cost of a survey is borne by the property owner. This deck expansion does not warrant spending double the cost to build,just so the City has more paperwork to file. There must be a simplified process ar compromise. I would like to continue the project and keep the US economy growing - however, your office request, which I did not initial in agreement in 2010, is not assisting. I remain, awaiting your reply to my questions and concerns. �� Anna Garcia Hyland phone: 216.407.9711 z Melanie Curtis From: Melanie Curtis Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:35 AM To: 'dyvigdevelopments@q.com' Cc: 'annahyland42@gmail.com'; Christine Mattson; Lyle Oman Subject: 1815 Fagerness Rd/ Building Permit Ap#2011-00429 Attachments: admin@ci.orono.mn.us 20110608 095134.pdf; PC MAP.pdf; Survey Requirements.pdf; Hardcover Calculation Worksheet.pdf; Hardcover Information.pdf Thomas We have received the faxed building permit application for 1815 Fagerness Point Road requesting to expand an existing deck. We require additional information to be submitted in order for our review to continue. In 2010 a permit was issued for an expansion of the kitchen and at that time the permitee and property owner were notified that further expansion projects on the property would require submittal of an updated survey. Please see the attached permit detail as well and the most current survey the City has on file for the property. The property is located in the shoreland overlay district and hardcover restrictions apply. I have included a map to illustrate that there may be a Manage 1 wetland on your property. Hardcover regulations can be found under City Code Section 78-1288 and the wetland regulations begin at City Code section 78-1601. Our City Zoning Code can be found online here: httq://library.municode.com/HTML/13094/Ieve12/TINILAUS CH78ZORE.html Prior to any further expansion of your home or decks a wetland delineation, revised hardcover calculations and a revised survey will be required. I will be out of the office this afternoon through Monday; I apologize for this inconvenience. If you have questions regarding this email prior to my return please contact Christine Mattson, Planning Assistant at 952.249.4620. Thank you, Melanie Melanie Curtis Planning &Zoning Coordinator City of Orono 2750 Kelley Parkway Orono, MN 55356 Direct Dial: 952.249.4627 Fax: 952.249.4616 Planning &Zoning Office 952.249.4620 Email: mcurtis(u�ci.orono.mn.us Website: www.ci.orono.mn.us Summer Office Hours (Monday, May 23rd to Friday, September 2nd) Monday - Thursday 7:30 am to 5:00 pm Friday 7:30 am to 11:30 am 1