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ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2003
. ROLL
The Council met on the above - mentioned date with the following members present: Mayor
Barbara Peterson, Council Members Bob Sansevere, Jim Murphy, Jim White, and Lili
McMillan. Representing staff were City Administrator Ron Moorse, Planning Director Mike
Gaffron, City Planner Melanie Foth, City Planner Janice Waatasa, City Attorney Tom
Barrett, City Engineer Tom Kellogg, Public Services Director Greg Gappa, and Recorder
Alissa Winternheimer.
Mayor Peterson called the meeting to order at 7:08 p.m.
CONSENT AGENDA
1. Approve /Amend
Items 6, 14, and 16 were added to the Consent Agenda.
Sansevere moved, and White seconded, to approve the consent agenda as amended.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
• APPROVAL OF MINUTES
*2. Minutes of the Regular Council Meeting of November 10, 2003
Sansevere moved, and White seconded, to approve the Minutes of the Regular
Council Meeting of November 10, 2003.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
PARK COMMISSION COMMENTS —DREW MCDERMOTT,
REPRESENTATIVE
McDermott stated that the snowfall means winter activities will be able to occur on
schedule. They were pleased with the work session. He thanked Mayor Peterson for
keeping the public audience present at the last meeting for the Friends of the Parks award
presentation. He also remarked that the lighting at the Navarre fire station was excellently
done.
PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS
None.
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ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2003
LMCD REPORT —LILI MCMILLAN, REPRESENTATIVE •
McMillan stated that they had their annual meeting with the Hennepin County Sheriff's
Water Patrol, which enforces the LMCD code on the lake. Overall code enforcement
went well. They had a safe summer, except for the July 4th boating incident. There was a
significant increase in BUI's, with 67 in 2003 vs. 22 in 2002. One possible cause would
be the good weather. The water patrol campaigned this year to address underage drinking
on the lake, which led to a significant increase in citations, with 87 in 2003 vs. 30 in 2002.
Licensed deputy and special patrol hours totaled 4,500 on Lake Minnetonka, which came
to about 85% of enforcement time for the entire county. The percentage time was
consistent with what they've done in the past. They had about 33 special deputies
(volunteers), which is down with their hours totaling 800 in 2003. They felt 33 was a
good number of special deputies. Hennepin County has not yet determined if they'll fund
enough of the budget to have the two extra deputies next summer as well. They should
know by the end of December.
Murphy asked if the increase in BUI has to do with increased enforcement. McMillan
stated they had the same number of deputies last summer. Sansevere stated he believed
they stepped up enforcement of BUI after the Big Island problems over July 4th
PUBLIC COMMENTS
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ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
3. #02 -2829 Orono Zoning Code Amendment — Section 78 -71— Regulation of
Nonconforming Uses and Nonconforming Structures
Gaffron stated that the Planning Commission had been working on this Zoning Code
amendment for about two years. The intent was to add standards for nonconforming
structures. The current draft was reviewed by the Planning Commission at a Public
Hearing held on November 17th. They recommended approval with a unanimous vote.
The draft accomplishes three things: a purpose for the nonconforming uses and structures
section, and standards for nonconforming uses and nonconforming structures. It separates
the provisions pertaining to "Nonconforming Uses" from those pertaining to
"Nonconforming Structures." It eliminates language that makes the existing section
pertinent only to uses, not structures. It eliminates the `36- months after 1 -1 -75' sunset
provision for lawful nonconforming use of land not involving a structure or involving a
structure with value less than $3000 on 1 -1 -75. It eliminates language that suggests
Council would look favorably on the granting of variances where a situation existed
legally under laws prior to 1975. It distinguishes between "Involuntary Destruction" and
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ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2003
• 3. #02 -2829 Orono Zoning Code Amendment—Section 78-71—Regulation of
Nonconforming Uses and Nonconforming Structures — Continued
"Voluntary Destruction" and establishes separate standards for each.
Involuntary Destruction: retains threshold after which rebuild must be
conforming at `damage is 75% or more of fair
market value.'
Voluntary Destruction: establishes that if less than 50% of fair market value
is retained, or if less than 50% of pre- existing
volume remains then the entire structure and site
must be made conforming.
Gaffron stated that if a tornado hit a house and damage exceeded 75% of fair market
value, then structure and site must be brought up to code in total. If only 60% of property
is damaged, then it may be rebuilt as it was before destruction. That standard has been in
place for over twenty years. For voluntary destruction, a teardown, if less than 50% of
fair market value is retained, or if less than 50 01u of the original structure remains, then the
entire site must be brought into conformance.
Gaffron stated the problem has been when the City approves a remodel, and the applicant
tears down to the foundation, or leaves only one wall standing, and then calls it a remodel
to avoid bringing the property up to code. The Code amendment gives them a standard at
which to hold applicants when determining if a project is a remodel or a rebuild.
Murphy asked for an example of volume. Gaffron stated that if one had a single story
house with a pitched roof and full basement. and tore down to the cap of the basement,
they have removed the first story and the volume of the roof, they would have removed
over 50% of the volume of the house. That would trigger the entire property having to
come into conformance, including a foundation that was encroaching into a setback.
The proposed code also establishes standards for the expansion of existing nonconforming
residence structures as well as slightly more strict standards for expansion of
nonconforming accessory structures.
A lawful, nonconforming residential structuze may be expanded, provided it does not
increase the nonconformity and complies Nvith all requirements of the district. For
example, if a house were nonconforming based on being too close to a setback on one
side. The addition could be on the side opposite the substandard setback, provided any
expansion of the building met all standard requirements. You could not add a second
story where the first story is already too close to the lot.
White asked if a house were okay on setbacks, but had too much driveway hardcover,
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ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2003
3. #02 -2829 Orono Zoning Code Amendment — Section 78-71—Regulation of •
Nonconforming Uses and Nonconforming Structures — Continued
would adding a second story then require reducing the hardcover of the driveway.
Gaffron stated that it would not trigger the hardcover nonconformity.
Expansion would be permitted if the structure is nonconforming only with respect to
substandard lot area or width for the district in which it is located, and the expansion shall
then meet all requirements of the district.
Gaffron stated that 1/3 – % of lakeshore homes are on substandard lots. Some percentage
of those may have substandard setback or hardcover that would require variance
applications. The amendment provides standards with which to work regarding such
applications.
In cases where the lot line setback of a structure is less than 50% of the required setback
for that district, the City may require that the discrepancy be made up by enlarging the
opposite yard depth to result in an aggregate yard depth equivalent to the combined
required yard.
The Planning Commission felt that there ought to be some threshold at which they look at
compensating for an extremely substandard situation. If a house had a 4' setback on one
side, where 10' is required, they could be required to make up the difference on the other
side. If that was not possible, then the City would consider a variance.
White asked if the code could lead to residents feeling the City has removed rights.
Barrett stated that he had not yet closely reviewed the ordinance. Any ordinance the City
drafts could brush up against Constitutional rights. The language in item 3(C) reads,
"may require," which means Council would set a series of precedents as to how the
ordinance is interpreted and enacted.
Gaffron stated most cities' codes have a 50% threshold.
Accessory structures have the same caveats in general. Item 4(C), was a little different,
stating that when an accessory structure is located too close to a lot line, the City could
require that the structure be modified so that it becomes completely conforming with
respect to setbacks.
Gaffron stated that a detached garage that comes up for remodel, the City may require the
entire structure be moved into conformance.
The Planning Commission recommended approval. Gaffron stated that Council could
approve, amend, or table it for further review.
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ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2003
• 3. #02 -2829 Orono Zoning Code Amendment --- Section 78-71—Regulation of
Nonconforming Uses and Nonconforming Structures — Continued
Murphy asked about the overall basic goal of the ordinance changes. Gaffron stated that
Orono's code never had a threshold for how far one could go on a remodel before it
triggered the need to come into conformance. The proposed ordinance will limit
expansions and require properties be brought into conformity if too much is torn down.
Murphy stated his only concern was whether the attorney should review it before Council
voted.
Barrett asked if there was any need to rush on the ordinance. Gaffron stated there was not.
McMillan asked if there was a volume distinction for involuntary destruction. Gaffron
stated there was not. This part of the code always contained a "75% of fair market value"
distinction. Staff felt with voluntary destruction, volume would be fairly easily addressed.
McMillan asked if in the past, on a teardown where the foundation was left, would they
have allowed someone to rebuild in a nonconforming situation. Gaffron stated that if the
foundation was too close to the lotline or lake, they would need a variance to put back
anything that was nonconforming.
McMillan stated her concern was that some people might not be able to get the same value
of house as they already had by bringing the property into conformance on a substandard
lot.
Gaffron stated that the logical situation would be to look at a variance for such a property.
The intent of the code was not to make substandard lots with substandard houses currently
in existence unbuildable, but to give clear direction that if the ability exists to make a
property conforming, then it is expected. Variances would continue to be granted where
there is clearly a hardship.
Murphy moved, and White seconded, to table Item 3, Orono Zoning Code
Amendment — Section 78- 71— Regulation of Nonconforming Uses and
Nonconforming Structures, for legal review.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
4. #03 -2866A David and Judy Zoschke, 2040 Shadywood Road — Administrative
Appeal
The applicants were not present.
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ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2003
4. #03 -2866A David and Judy Zoschke, 2040 Shadywood Road—Administrative •
Appeal -- Continued
White moved, and Murphy seconded to table Item 4, David and Judy Zoschke, 2040
Shadywood Road — Administrative Appeal.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
*5. #03 -291 Winfield and Nancy Stephens, 350 Crestview Avenue— Variances-
Resolution No. 5078
Sansevere moved, and White seconded, to adopt Resolution No. 5078 granting
variances to Municipal Zoning Code Section 78 -282, 78- 305(B), and 78- 1288(B) to
allow construction of a new residence on a property that is 0.455 acres in size when 2
acres is normally required and for the structure to be setback 30' from the front
property line when 50' is required, and 10' from the side property line when 30' is
required and 30' from the rear property line when 50' is required and also to allow
45% hardcover in the 75 -250' zone when 25% is normally allowed.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
*6. #03 -2935 Scott and Kara Hutton, 1835 Shadywood Road— Variance-
Resolution No. 5079
Sansevere moved, and White seconded, to adopt Resolution No. 5079 granting
variance to Municipal Zoning Code Section 78 -282 to allow hardcover within the 75-
250' setback zone of 27.8% or 4,584 s.f.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
7. #03 -2950 David and Tara Gross, 2635 Countryside Drive West— After - the -Fact
Variance — Resolution No. 5080
Foth stated that the applicants requested an after - the -fact variance to allow a 2380 s.f
sport court to remain less than 6' from the side lot line, where 30' is required. The
Planning Commission voted to deny the application, 5 -1, as they found no hardship. They
recommended a deadline of June 15, 2004 for removal or relocation of the sport court.
After the Planning Commission meeting, Gaffron and Building Inspector Bruce Vang had
discussed a reduced time line for removal of the sport court.
Mr. Gross came forward. He stated that they never intended to be deceptive with the
installation of the sport court. They moved to Orono two years ago. They have four
children. They have done some other projects in the back yard since moving in. They
decided to install the sport court to keep the children active and safe. They assumed a 10'
setback would be allowed, as that is standard in Plymouth. They flagged the area for the
court and left the flags up for six weeks. The current location allows them to see the
children from the deck and kitchen windows. They spoke to the neighbors, including the
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ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2003
• 7. #03 -2950 David and Tara Gross, 2635 Countryside Drive West—After-the-Fact
Variance Resolution No. 5080— Continued
next door neighbor along that property edge. No one had any concerns. They shopped for
the court and chose a green one that is not too visually disturbing. He had assumed the
sport court company pulled a permit. They assumed he had. The company installed the
court and after the grading was done, they put the court at 6' instead of the 12' where it
had been flagged for installation. Over the summer, he was approached by Bruce Vang
who told him that the court was too close to the property line. He applied for an after -the-
fact variance after consulting with an attorney. Mr. Gross stated it looks like they delayed
parts of the process, but he responded to every City request promptly and complied with
all the deadlines. He offered to plant a row of arborvitae along the property to screen it
from the neighbors. The Planning Commission voted against it. He would consider
moving the sport court to another spot on the property. He stated the alternate location
chosen by the Planning Commission would not work well for them. They could reduce
the size of the court at the current location. Or they could do soil tests to possibly move
the alternate location of septic and shift the sport court away from the property line.
Sansevere asked how they failed to get a permit, when the contract with Sport Court stated
permits are the customer's responsibility. Mr. Gross stated that they have never had to
pull a permit for other projects. The contract was a 4 -page document and customer
responsibility was in no way flagged for them. It was his error, however, Sport Court
admitted they used to pull permits and this was the first year they did not pull permits.
Now because of mistakes like his, they are again pulling permits for customers.
Sansevere asked about the alternate site and sight lines. Mr. Gross stated there is a
sunroom off the house they can't see around, as well as a row of mature spruce trees. He
added they are concerned about people coming off the road to approach their four young
children. Sansevere asked if the yard will be fenced. He said it would be. He also said
the pool is kept covered, so they are not worried about that as a hazard.
Sansevere asked if they have a hardship. Mr. Gross stated they would have to remove a
number of mature trees.
Mr. Gross stated that he feels singled out when he sees the other sport courts around
Orono that are up against lot lines.
Barrett stated that the authority of the City to grant variances comes from the State statute,
which sets out determinations that can be seen in the resolution. Key is the City's
obligation to follow the law. Also, understand that if the law is read loosely in one case, it
is difficult to not read it loosely in another case. Council's task is to apply the law to the
application before them. They have had similar unfortunate cases in the past.
• Murphy stated he received two calls from John Bowman regarding the application. His
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ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2003
7. #03 -2950 David and Tara Gross, 2635 Countryside Drive West—After-the-Fact ,
Variance Resolution No. 5080— Continued
company put in the applicant's garden. Bowman stated that something changed with the
neighbors, and they are no longer okay with the sport court's presence. Mr. Gross stated
that initially there was no issue, and he is not sure why things have changed.
Murphy stated that if the court were off by 1' and the neighbors all approved, he would
feel different about the application. But the court was too far into the setback.
Murphy asked about the location in regard to the septic system. Foth stated that she had
the septic inspector look at the site and he said the mound on the survey is smaller than the
actual mound. They suggested soil testing to see if the alternate septic location could be
shifted to the west to make more room for the sport court. The problem was that the
septic tanks run close to the sport court.
Murphy stated it seemed the alternate site for the sport court suggested by staff seemed the
best choice. He suggested rebuilding the deck to create another location from which to
view the children. Mr. Gross stated that the alternate sport court site is not out of the
question.
Sansevere asked if Sport Court had offered to help with the expense of moving the slab.
Mr. Gross stated he had not yet discussed that matter because he wanted to first determine
what would need to be done with the court.
Mr. Gross stated he just found out staff changed the deadline and wanted the court moved
within two weeks. He stated that would be impossible.
Gaffron stated that Vang's perspective on the matter was that he never recommended an
after - the -fact variance, but mentioned it as an option and stated it would be unlikely to be
granted. Vang felt the applicants have already had four months to consider what to do
with the sport court, which should have been moved last summer. Gaffron stated that at
this point, the applicant will have issues with moving the court due to the weather. It may
have to wait till spring. If the applicant has to move the court, it should be done as soon
as possible to minimize the nuisance to the neighbors.
Mayor Peterson asked Mr. Gross how the court wound up 6' from the lot line. Mr. Gross
replied that he flagged the court at 11' or 12' from the lot line. In the process, with a
slight change in grade, Sport Court placed it at 6' and said it was necessary. He stated that
activity on the court has been minimal so far. In the spring, they would like to minimize
the amount of trucks in the yard tearing it up. He stated they need time to consider
options and conduct soil tests concerning the septic site. Mr. Gross stated they plan to live
in Orono for a long time and want to make the matter right.
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ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2003
• 7. #03 -2950 David and Tara Gross, 2635 Countryside Drive West—After-the-Fact
Variance Resolution No. 5080— Continued
Sansevere stated he would not support removing the court immediately.
Todd Urness of 2630 Countryside Drive West, stated that in addition to being a neighbor,
he was serving as attorney for the Gross's. He stated that he was stunned at staff s
recommendation that the court be removed in two weeks time. He submitted the variance
application on behalf of the Gross's in a typical time frame and it was incorrect to say they
dragged their feet. The sport court has no lights or fence and use would be inoffensive.
He requested Council stick with the June 15`h deadline.
White stated he would agree with the June 15`h deadline because in the spring weather is
too muddy. He asked if the garden had to come out too. Mayor Peterson replied it did
not.
Sansevere stated that Sport Court should not have installed the court at 6' without
permission. He suggested Mr. Gross's attorney discuss the matter with the company.
McMillan stated it's unfortunate that there is no real hardship for the variance.
• Mayor Peterson stated that Council could not approve the variance, but would support a
June 15`h deadline for removal of the court.
Murphy stated that if Sport Court sent someone to the Planning Commission meeting,
where they admitted to changing policy on pulling permits, Mr. Gross should pursue some
assistance from them.
Gaffron stated that if the applicant finds a location that meets City code, he would not
need a variance, but only a building permit. If he needs a variance for a new location, he
would need to submit a new application. The current application would be closed out
once Council moved on it.
Sansevere moved, and Murphy seconded, to adopt Resolution No. 5080 denying
variances per Municipal Zoning Code Section 78 -1404, Subdivision 2, allowing a
deadline of June 15, 2004 for removal of the sport court.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
8. #03 -2951 Judith and James Pierpont, 1849 and 1801 West Farm Road —Lot
Line Rearrangement
Gaffron stated that the applicants proposed a lot line rearrangement between their two
properties. The westerly lot, #14, 1849 West Farm, remains vacant. The easterly lot, #15,
. 1801 West Farm, contains a principal residence and a guesthouse approved via CUP
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ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2003
8. #03 -2951 Judith and James Pierpont, 1849 and 1801 West Farm Road —Lot
Line Rearrangement -- Continued
Resolution No. 2854. The applicants' intent is to yield two lots that are conforming for
the intended uses with the easterly lot totally 4- acres. This can only be accomplished if
the wetland area is attributable for the 4 -acre guest house requirement. Planning
Commission concluded that the wetland area is not attributable and that the guesthouse
use should be discontinued, the kitchen removed, and a "Plumbing in Accessory Building
CUP" be applied for.
Gaffron stated that at the time the CUP was granted for the guesthouse, the lots should
have been combined, yielding a lot with over 5 dry contiguous acres. For unknown
reasons, the applicants never completed the legal combination. They requested the lot line
rearrangement in order to maximize the area of the homestead parcel while retaining the
minimum 2.0 dry buildable acres in Lot 14 for future development or sale.
The result would be a lot with 3 acres of dry buildable and 1 acre of wetland. The
Planning Commission felt that was not adequate to allow the guesthouse to remain.
Gaffron stated that the applicants would have to make necessary easement vacations in
exchange for dedication of new easements along the new lot line.
There is a driveway on the property that has existed for many decades. The Planning •
Commission suggests it be removed by 2004. The applicants suggested that the drive
ought to be left alone as it poses no complications to any one.
Gaffron stated that the City Attorney advised that the application for conversion of the
guesthouse to Plumbing in an Accessory Structure be a separate application and should
not be added to the current application. Planning Commission discussed the fact that the
guest facilities did not meet location standards for the Plumbing CUP but concluded that
because the building has been in the present location for many decades, is far from any
neighboring residence, has no negative visual impacts, and is a historic structure dating in
part to the 1870's, any negative impacts of such a CUP would be limited.
Gaffron passed out copies of a letter from Mr. Pierpont.
Sansevere asked if the applicants intended to apply for the plumbing CUP. Mrs. Pierpont
stated that the guesthouse had partial plumbing when they bought the property and applied
for the conversion permit in 1990.
Mrs. Pierpont stated that the letter from her husband covered all the Planning Commission
points. She summarized. They have no problem with the requirement to change the
utility easements.
The driveway recommended for removal has been in existence since the 1870's. Previous •
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ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2003
• 8. #03 -2951 Judith and James Pierpont, 1849 and 1801 West Farm Road —Lot
Line Rearrangement — Continued
owners had blacktopped part of the drive, and they finished the blacktopping. The drive
connected Farm and Homestead streets and was used by neighbors. The neighbor who
lived on Homestead at the end of the driveway informed the Pierponts that they were
nervous about a road exiting opposite their house, so the Pierponts blocked the access to
Homestead by installing a mound at the end of the drive and planting it. The Pierponts
did not understand the need to remove a drive that had been in existence for so long when
its presence did not impact anybody negatively.
Mrs. Pierpont stated that when they bought the house, it was in disrepair and the stable
was derelict. They wanted to keep the character of the property. They kept the roof, walls
and foundation of the stable and converted it to a guest house with an alcove kitchen,
bathroom, balcony, and bedroom. She stated that the guesthouse is only ever used by
family members or close friends who visit, with the exception of allowing guests of their
church to stay briefly on two occasions. They have tried to add value to the neighborhood
with the changes they've made, while keeping the original charm and style of the
property.
She stated that they originally believed the lots were connected in order to provide
• alternative sites for septic. She stated they plan to bring sewer hookups to both lots 14
and 15.
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Mrs. Pierpont stated that her husband figured they have 13,000 s.f. (7.5 %) of wetland on
their property with lakeshore frontage. According to his calculations, they do have
enough dry buildable to keep the guesthouse. She stated they would gladly sign an
agreement stating the house is only to be used by family members and that it would never
generate an income.
Murphy stated that the City should do a better job of protecting historic properties.
Gaffron asked if they would be ignoring the preservation of a historic structure by merely
requiring the kitchen to be removed. The 4 -acre requirement has to do with density. The
code doesn't distinguish between constant use and occasional use. The Pierponts seem
willing to limit the use of the house. Wetland is not credited in terms of density when a
property is sewered. Still, the situation has existed for over 13 years with no negative
impacts. There is, however, a precedent setting concern if the City allowed the situation
to continue as is.
Murphy stated that they need a unique situation in order to find a hardship. Mrs. Pierpont
stated that the age of the house and guesthouse make it a unique situation. They were
built in 1870.
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ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2003
8. #03 -2951 Judith and James Pierpont, 1849 and 1801 West Farm Road —Lot •
Line Rearrangement — Continued
Murphy asked which calculation on the wetland was correct. Gaffron stated that based on
the watershed district's maps of wetland, 25% of the 4 -acre property is wetland. If Mr.
Pierpont walked the property looking only for open waters, he would have arrived at his
calculations technically in error.
McMillan stated that wetland has to do with soil and grass types and not necessarily with
open water, which fluctuates greatly.
McMillan asked Mrs. Pierpont if they had intended to combine the lots in 1990 with the
guesthouse CUP. Mrs. Pierpont stated they had intended the lot combination, though it
never happened. McMillan stated that the applicants could combine the lots and get only
one sewer.
Gaffron stated if the lots were combined, the guesthouse as a separate unit would cease to
be an issue. However, if the Pierponts only got one sewer, the cost of sewer for each unit
within the project would increase.
Moorse stated that the zone requires a 2 -acre minimum for a guesthouse in the 2 -acre zone
so that if the lot were ever subdivided, the guesthouse could stand on its own. In this case,
they wouldn't want the guest house to stand on its own, so would the 2 -acre minimum •
requirement still stand, or could some compromise be worked out where the house
remains, but could never be subdivided in the future. Such a compromise would then
raise the issue of enforcing the use - restrictions related to the guesthouse in the future.
Murphy asked if they could attach a covenant to the property. Moorse stated that a CUP
would effectively do the same thing. Gaffron stated that a CUP would run with the
property and be permanent. Moorse stated the problem would remain of monitoring for
violations of the CUP.
McMillan stated that the Pierponts would surely use the guesthouse appropriately, but the
next owner could violate the CUP. When lot line arrangements come up, it gives the City
a chance to influence a situation.
Mrs. Pierpont asked if it would be possible to make the restrictions part of the property
deed.
Barrett stated that they have a subdivision application, but do not have an application for a
guesthouse before them. In order to grant a variance for the guesthouse, they would need
the application and a hardship for that matter. He stated Council could decide on a
preliminary basis if they would allow the guesthouse to stand, then require a formal
application. They could put conditions into the variance, but could never effectively
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MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2003
i 8. #03 -2951 Judith and James Pierpont, 1849 and 1801 West Farm Road —Lot
Line Rearrangement — Continued
police those conditions.
McMillan stated the only way to enforce the appropriate use of the guesthouse, is to
require the removal the kitchen.
White stated he would like to see standards for historical residences, and also a definition
of a kitchen.
Mrs. Pierpont stated they installed a cooktop to help prepare simple food items for
children. Otherwise guests dine at the main house.
Gaffron stated that the applicants wanted to move the lot line 3 0ths of an acre, creating a
2 -acre and a 4 -acre lot. Rededicating easement is not an issue. They would still have two
buildable sites with sewer coming in to both sites.
Mrs. Pierpont stated they want to redefine the lot line because they have the chance to
bring in sewer to two lots, defraying the cost of sewer for the neighbors and making it
more feasible for the City to bring sewer. Also, their son suggested they divide lot 14 so
• that they'd have the option of selling it off someday if they wanted to. They also own a
house on 6`" Avenue North, which their son lives in. If someday the property passes to
him, he would have the option of selling off lot 14.
Gaffron stated that as it currently stands, lot 14 is a separate tax parcel from lot 15. Both
lots abut a private road. The only reason to move the lot line, could be because the septic
system for lot 15 crosses the property line. With sewer coming, lot 14 could remain at 2.2
acres.
Barrett stated the Pierponts currently have two lots, so there is no real need to change it.
They would then be left with a nonconforming guesthouse on a lot with under 4 -acres of
dry buildable. If the kitchen were removed, that problem would be solved and they could
leave the lots as is.
Gaffron stated that the typical kitchen contains a sink, stove and refri_serator. The
Planning Commission was not concerned with the Pierponts use of the house, but there is
a risk that the next owner could use it as a permanent residence.
Murphy stated that there ought to be a better way to insure the future use of the
guesthouse than to punish the Pierponts for wanting to leave things as they've been for the
last decade.
• McMillan stated that the lots were supposed to be combined in 1990, before the
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MONDAY, NOVE11BER 24, 2003
8. #03 -2951 Judith and James Pierpont, 1849 and 1801 West Farm Road —Lot i
Line Rearrangement — Continued
conversion, and it never happened.
Sansevere asked if another CUP would solve the problem. Mayor Peterson stated it would
not unless they removed the kitchen.
Gaffron stated they would have to remove the kitchen under a plumbing for accessory
structure CUP, or receive a variance for the acreage required for the guesthouse. Gaffron
stated that the sink is the primary factor that makes the kitchen, as other fixtures such as
stove and refrigerator can be merely purchased and "plugged in."
Mrs. Pierpont stated that she is afraid if the sink were removed, the pipes would freeze
and back up into the rest of the plumbing.
Sansevere stated he felt a stove made a kitchen.
Gaffron stated a kitchen is defined by use, not the appliances installed. He stated if the
Pierponts apply for a CUP, the discussion would center on what needs to be pulled out.
Mrs. Pierpont stated that the stable had a sink in it before they bought the property. •
Gaffron asked Mrs. Pierpont if they really need to move the lot lines. She replied not
necessarily. Gaffron stated that if the application went away, the City would be faced
with enforcing use of the original CUP from 1990, which has never resulted in a
complaint.
Mrs. Pierpont stated that her younger son has a strong interest in the property, and so
she'd be willing to put a deed on the property as it will likely stay in the family.
Gaffron stated that the CUP for plumbing in an accessory structure would not be intended
for overnight use.
Mayor Peterson suggested the Pierponts apply for a CUP application. She asked what
needed to be done about the road then. Gaffron stated nothing would need to be done. As
long as the properties remained owned by the Pierponts, there would be no issue. Most
likely, the road, which passes through lot 14, would be dealt with should the lots ever
come under separate ownership.
Sansevere asked that if the Pierponts got the CUP, then removed the kitchen, got in two
sewer hookups, then could they move the lot line at a later time and put the kitchen back
in. The sons could then subdivide the property should they take ownership of the property
some day. Mrs. Pierpont stated their intent was to take care of everything themselves so •
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• 8. #03 -2951 Judith and James Pierpont,1849 and 1801 West Farm Road —Lot
Line Rearrangement — Continued
that their children would not need to go through the process.
Gaffron asked if there are substantial reasons to continue with the subdivision. If so, he
suggested Council proceed with the subdivision conditioned upon approval of the CUP
application in January. Sewer would happen for both lots regardless of the subdivision.
At this point, there is no need to do anything with the driveway.
Mrs. Pierpont stated they would like the subdivision approved conditioned upon the CUP
application's approval in January. They would then remove the kitchen if the CUP
required doing so. At that point, they would have lots 14 and 15 standing on their own.
The road would remain as is, unless they were no longer the owners of the properties.
Gaffron stated Council could table, or conceptually approve the subdivision subject to
staff drafting a resolution that says they approve the subdivision and lot line
rearrangement subject to it not becoming effective until they complete the CUP
application and all conditions of the CUP approval.
Sansevere moved, and White seconded, to conceptually approve the lot line
• rearrangement and easement vacation /rededication, directing staff to draft a
resolution for adoption on December 8th, stating that the lot line rearrangement will
not be effective until an application for a Plumbing in Accessory Structure CUP is
obtained and the guesthouse is brought into compliance with requirements of the
CUP.
Vote: Ayes 4, Nays 1 (Murphy).
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Murphy stated that he voted against the motion because he felt they were unnecessarily
restricting the Pierponts due to fear of a potential future problem with the guesthouse use.
*9. #03 -2953 Raymond and Nylene Newkirk, 1489 Shoreline Drive, Variance,
Resolution No. 5081
Sansevere moved, and White seconded, to adopt Resolution No. 5081 granting
variance to Municipal Zoning Code Section 78 -282 and 78 -305 Subdivision B to
allow construction of a new residence on the 0.71 acre property and hardcover level
within the 75 -250' setback of 35.7% where 25% is allowed.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
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*10. #03 -2959 Timothy J. Latterner, 2032 Shadywood Road — Variance — Resolution •
No. 5082
Sansevere moved, and White seconded, to adopt Resolution No. 5082 granting
variance to Municipal Zoning Code Section 78 -282 to allow hardcover within the 75-
250' setback zone of 59.9% (4,504 s.f.), and 78 -350 (B) to add a pitched roof over an
existing flat roofed porch, and to expand the'/: story to a full 2 "d story within 5.8' of
the property line where 10' is normally required.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
*11. #03 -2960 Timothy and Kelly Mahoney, 2760 Pheasant Road— Variance-
Resolution No. 5083
Sansevere moved, and White seconded, to adopt Resolution No. 5083 granting
variance to Municipal Zoning Code Section 78- 330(B) to allow a new 7/12 pitch roof
with a covered entry to be setback 29' from the front property line when 35' is
allowed and 33' currently exists.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
*12. #03 -2963 WJM Properties, LLC, 2605 West Wayzata Boulevard — Commercial
Site Plan Review — Resolution No. 5084
Sansevere moved, and White seconded, to adopt Resolution No. 5084 approving the •
commercial site plan to allow a 20' x 75' addition to an existing detached garage
structure on the property.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
13. #03 -2966 Orono Zoning Code Amendment — Section 78- 1491(H) and 78 -1577—
Regulation of Vehicle Storage in Residential Districts — Ordinance No.
4,3 rd Series
Foth stated that historically special mobile equipment and vehicle parking was addressed
within the introductory paragraph of 78 -1577 regarding exterior storage. This revision of
City Code Section 78 -1577 is in part to maintain consistency between the various code
sections that deal with parking, to establish additional updated standards commensurate
with the residential nature of Orono, and to address the wide range of uses of vehicles in
the community.
The Planning Commission determined that the code section regarding vehicle storage on
private property was a better fit within the Exterior Storage section (78 -1577) of the
Ordinance. Recreation vehicles and motor homes will have overlapping coverage in both
the Zoning Ordinance (78 -1577) and within City Code Section 90 -1 Manufactured Homes
and Trailers due to the different enforcement components.
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• 13. #03 -2966 Orono Zoning Code Amendment — Section 78- 1491(H) and 78-1577 —
Regulation of Vehicle Storage in Residential Districts — Ordinance No.
4, 3'd Series— Continued
Foth pointed out an error in the report. Under staff recommendation it read 78- 1479h, it
should read 78- 1491h.
The summary of changes in the report were added to by Sergeant Kurt Erickson and were
indicated within circles in the report. The Planning Commission reviewed the final draft
absent comments from Sergeant Erickson and recommended approval. Staff also
recommended approval.
Jeffrey Hagen of 2905 Sixth Avenue was present with his wife. He stated he was in favor
of the changes to the Zoning Ordinance.
Sansevere stated that the Ordinance seems to restrict campers in ways that boats and
trailers are not restricted.
Gaffron stated that a year or two ago, Orono changed the boat storage ordinance to be
more liberal, and are finding that they did not have in place an ordinance that addresses
the storage of large vehicles away from the lakeshore. The new Ordinance changes
• provide standards and limitations for large recreational vehicles.
Foth stated that recreational vehicles will now need to meet the same setbacks as utility
trailers are required to meet in the boat storage ordinance. Trailers are now included with
recreational vehicles, where before they were only addressed in the boat storage
ordinance. The setback was set at 10', and will now be required to sit no closer than 5'
from a lotline. The present changes are more liberal.
•
McMillan asked if parking of vehicles for more than 24 hours would be allowed in the
driveway. Foth stated they could not be stored in the driveway, but must be in a side or
rear yard, not in a street yard.
Foth stated that vehicles over 14,000 lbs could not be stored on property of less than 5-
acres. Large, 1 -ton pick -up trucks used for towing are typically at 14,000 lbs. They
wanted to allow those, but restrict heavier vehicles.
Mr. Hagen stated that his neighbor has a dump truck stored on his property, as well as
other vehicles.
Gaffron stated that staff have attempted to solve such problems with large vehicles
through home occupation ordinances, but found they could not, so they propose revising
the vehicle storage ordinance.
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13. #03 -2966 Orono Zoning Code Amendment — Section 78- 1491(H) and 78 -1577— •
Regulation of Vehicle Storage in Residential Districts — Ordinance No.
4,3"d Series — Continued
Sansevere asked if a dump truck was not included under the ordinance. Foth stated that a
dump truck is NOT special mobile equipment, which is regulated elsewhere. Special
mobile equipment would be things that one could not drive to and from work, like a well
driller or bobcat. Special mobile equipment is not allowed to be stored outside at all.
Gaffron stated that page 3 of 6, items 2 a -g covers the dump truck. The City will handle
violations of the ordinance on a complaint basis. Staff would likely allow a 3 -month
grace period to allow residents to work out new storage spaces for their vehicles. Gaffron
stated they could get word out through an article in billings, the website, and/or the
newspapers.
Sansevere asked for a definition of nuisance. Barrett stated there is a definition of
nuisance in a different portion of the ordinance.
Murphy asked where special mobile equipment was covered. Foth stated section a on
page 4 of 6 stated that outdoor storage of such equipment is prohibited.
White moved, and Mayor Peterson seconded, to adopt the Ordinance No. 4, Third •
Series, An Ordinance Amending Section 78 of the Orono Municipal Zoning Code by
Amending Sections 78- 1491(h) Regarding Commercial Vehicle Parking and 78 -1577
Regarding Exterior Storage.
Vote: Ayes 4, Nays 1 ( Sansevere).
Sansevere stated he felt the City sometimes overly restricted where residents could and
could not keep things on their property.
MAYOR/COUNCIL REPORT
Sansevere mentioned a resident who wanted to plant poplar trees in the boulevard outside
power lines along his property, which would put them along the street's edge and in the
City's right -of -way. Mayor Peterson asked Gaffron to look into the matter.
Murphy stated that he had attended three meetings with Mn/DOT and would have two
more on Tuesday regarding construction. He felt the meetings were making progress.
The engineer and Mn/DOT representative seem to understand their issues better than ever
before. They raced to get the temporary bridge blacktopped on Friday afternoon and did
Kelley Parkway on Saturday. They agreed that the issues raised thus far require that they
redesign the construction plan for the balance of the project over the winter months. They
have discussed ways to keep people apprised of progress. One idea is to shoot still photos
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• MAYOR/COUNCIL REPORT — Continued
with a traffic camera that posts to a website.
Murphy added that Orono Police Sergeant Jay Dembouski was nominated by the Long
Lake Chamber of Commerce as the Person of the Year, and won the award.
White suggested Orono could charge a fee for companies bringing heavy vehicles onto
city streets that tear up the streets. The fees could help cover costs of street repair.
Moorse stated he would look into it.
Mayor Peterson stated the Mr. Anderst of the Narrows Saloon stated he felt a pull -tab
license could raise $50,000 to help beautify the City. Moorse stated that the establishment
and charitable organization both would require state permits. Sansevere noted that the MS
Society raised less than $5,000 from the pull -tabs.
Mayor Peterson stated that she attended a groundbreaking ceremony for the Excelsior Fire
District. The Chief spoke to the members of the board from the five communities in the
fire district and recommended Orono and Long Lake's partnership as an example of
cooperation. She thanked them for their partnership with Orono over the next few years.
• PUBLIC SERVICE DIRECTOR'S REPORT
•
*14. Accept Quotation for Industrial Park Watermain Extension
Sansevere moved, and White seconded, to accept quotation for the industrial park
watermain improvements from Nodland Construction Company, Fergus Falls,
Minnesota in the amount of $7,350.00 to be funded from the Water Fund with a
budget adjustment to the 2003 Water Fund budget.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
15. Adopt Assessment Roll —North Long Lake East Sewer Extension — Resolution
No. 5085
Murphy stated that Council had agreed to try for the lowest possible interest rate for
another sewer assessment at the previous meeting, and wondered if they should do the
same for this project.
Gappa stated that everyone assessed for the current projects had already agreed to the
6.25% interest. Assessment rolls that had already passed would have to go down to the
county in order to change the interest rate, and they would have to re -adopt the assessment
rolls.
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15. Adopt Assessment Roll North Long Lake East Sewer Extension Resolution •
No. 5085— Continued
Sansevere stated they should look into it for the current application because it came before
them after they were aware of the possibility.
Moorse stated they could adopt the assessment at 6.25% or lower based on the City's cost
of funds.
Murphy moved, and Sansevere seconded, to adopt Resolution No. 5085 approving
the assessment roll for the North Lake East Sanitary Sewer Extension Project at an
interest rate of 6.25% or lower based on the City's cost of funds.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT
*16. Application and Certificate for Payment #5— Navarre Fire Station
Sansevere moved, and White seconded, to approve the Application and Certificate
for Payment No. 5, in the amount of $301,395.00 to be paid from the Navarre Fire
Station Construction Fund.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0. •
17. Police Department— Accept Donation
Sansevere stated it was kept off Consent so that it could be acknowledged publicly.
McMillan moved, and Murphy seconded, to accept the donation of six traffic safety
vests from Dr. Charles Boehm to be used by the Orono Police Department.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT
None.
18. LICENSES
ANNUAL LIQUOR LICENSES
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MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2003
• 18. LICENSES — Continued
Club On Sale and Sunday Liquor
Wayzata Country Club
200 Wayzata Boulevard
Woodhill Country Club
200 Woodhill Road
Off Sale Liquor
Navarre Liquors, Inc.
3421 Shoreline Drive
Mayor Peterson moved, and White seconded, to approve the above listed licenses
Vote: Ayes 4, Nays 0, Abstain 1 (McMillan).
*19. BILLS
• Sansevere moved, and White seconded, to approve payment of the All Funds
Account.
Vote: Ayes 5, Nays 0.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
ATTEST:
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Lmda S. Vee, City Clerk
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Barbara Peterson, Mayor