HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/03/2004 - work session Planning Commission Minutes MINUTES OF THE
ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION
Wednesday, November 3, 2004
5:30 o'clock p.m.
ROLL
The Commission met on the above mentioned date with the following members present:
Chair David Rahn, Commissioners J. Marc Fritzler, Jim Leslie, Cynthia Bremer, Ralph Kempf, and
Travis Winkey. Alternate Commissioners Sandra Smith and Jule Hannaford were also present.
Representing Staff were Planning Director Mike Gaffron, and Planners Janice Gundlach and Melanie
Curtis.
Chair Rahn called the meeting to order at 5:35 p.m.
OLD BUSINESS
1. #04-3063 WJM Properties LLC - 2605 West Wayzata Blvd. -Minor Amendment to
CUP and Industrial Site Plan, 5:35 p.m. to 7:02 p.m.
Gaffron described the parameters of the revised lighting request, noting that the requested additional
submittals to support the request have been provided in the packet. He indicated that the City Engineer
had reviewed the plan and his comments indicated this proposal was in compliance with the IES
(Illuminating Engineering Society) standards for a parking lot, including a max-to-min footcandle ratio of
15:1 or less and an average footcandle rate of approximately 4FC where the standard would be 2-5
FC. Gaffron also noted that the lighting level at the perimeter of the lot was generally in the range of 0.0
to 1.5 FC, and that it would be virtually 0.0 at all lot boundaries.
Gaffron also noted that the applicants had reviewed surrounding properties for possible visual impact,
and the two nearest homes, many hundreds of feet distant from the site, were screened by existing
vegetation, topography, existing non-residential buildings, and proposed Highway 12 walls and berms,
such that the impacts to those properties would be very minimal.
Leslie indicated he felt the plan is reasonable given the intended and approved uses of the property.
Smith questioned whether and to what extent the lighting plan was initially reviewed when the original
CUP was being considered. Peter Johnson, speaking on behalf of the applicant, briefly noted how the
regulatory issues regarding this site had slowed the project down. He noted that lighting was probably
not given the level of attention by the applicant or the City that it might in retrospect have deserved at
that time, as the variety and nature of proposed uses of the site was the more pressing issue at that time.
Gaffron concurred, noting that while the height of the light poles had been reviewed and they were
reqiuired to be lowered, a review of lighting intensity or a footcandle analysis was not contemplated at
that time. Only when the applicant this summer proposed to add lighting to the site did this become an
issue.
Rahn closed the public hearing at 6:55 p.m. General discussion ensued regarding the proposal. It was
noted that the vegetative screening along Highway 12 was incomplete, and would be finished in the
spring of 2005. Commissioners also suggested that the a recommendation for approval should establish
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MINUTES OF THE
ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION
Wednesday,November 3,2004
5:30 o'clock p.m.
that this proposal should represent the maximum lighting that will be approved for this portion of the
site, noting that other lighting previously approved for the front of the building would still apply.
Rahn moved, Leslie seconded, to approve the lighting plan for WJM properties at 2605 West
Wayzata Boulevard as proposed subject to completion of all required screening plantings in
the spring of 2005, and subject to this lighting plan being considered the final plan and no
additional lighting for the east parking lot is likely to be approved.
VOTE: Ayes 6, Nays 0.
2. Review of Signage Ordinance Definitions.
Planner Melanie Curtis reviewed a list of potential signage ordinance definitions with the Planning
Commission. The discussion included whether certain included definitions were needed, noting that
additional definitions might be added once the text of the ordinance is under review. Commissioners
discussed the variety of signage types that might be attempted in the City and how to address them.
Planning Commissioners concluded that a visual review of signage types would be helpful. Curtis
suggested that staff take pictures of all existing signage in the City, plus signage elsewhere, for review
and analysis at the next work session, to allow the Commissioners to decide what types of signage are
appropriate and which are not. Gaffron noted this would also provide a chance to do a complete
inventory of the existing commercial signage in the City.
3. Review of November 15 Meeting Agenda
Staff briefly reviewed the items that would be appearing on the upcoming agenda for November 15.
4. Joint Meeting regarding Rural Oasis Study
Gaffron noted that the joint meeting with Council would likely be held in December rather than
November.
5. Other
Kempf gave an update on the recent Council meeting regarding the Large Vehicle Storage ordinance.
Gaffron added that the final version was slightly changed from that recommended by the Commission,
requiring only that an easement be in place for shared driveways rather than approval by all parties.
There being no additional business to discuss, the meeting was a ' urned at 7:12 p.m
David Rahn, Chair
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