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Home My WebLink AboutRequest for council action zoning permit 2012001168 REQUEST FOR COUNCIL ACTION Date: 21 February 2013 Item No. � Department Approval: Administrator Approval: � Agenda Section: Staff: Metanie Curtis, Planning &Zoning Coordinator� �,� Jesse Struve, City Engineer/Public Works Director�l'��" � : Item Description: Zoning Permit#2012-01168—S.Scott& Irene Standa, 3025 Casco Point Road Zoning District: LR-1C, One Family Lakeshore Residential—%: acre List of Exhibits: ExhibitA. Permit Application Exhibit 8. Submitted Survey Exhibit C. City Engineer Comments—Emails 11/28/12—11/29/12 Exhibit D. Additional Information Submitted by the Standas Exhibit E. Site Photos—Standa Exhibit F. Email From Dan Seidel Exhibit G. Site Photos—Annotated by Staff Exhibit H. Site Photos—Staff Exhibit 1. Orono Survey Requirements ExhibitJ. City Code Excerpts Exhibit K. Overview Aerial Photo -Staff Exhibit L. Survey(2004) 3015 Casco Point Road—Seidel Exhibit M. Survey(1999) 3025 Casco Point Road—Standa Exhibit N. Survey(2012) 3035 Casco Point Road—Hulbert Background On November 15`h Scott and Irene Standa submitted a zoning permit application for minor land alteration and driveway expansion. This request followed a zoning permit application request by Jay Hulbert,the neighbor to the immediate south,which involved land alterations and driveway/hardcover removals which appear to impact the Standas. Portions of driveway to be removed connect to the Standa driveway as indicated on the attached surveys and aerial photo. There is another portion of the Standa driveway which encroaches on to the Hulbert property that runs next to the Seidel residence on 3015 Casco Point Road. The City Attorney has indicated that, as the Standa driveway exists within an easement over the Seidel property, a permit application to expand the driveway and conduct grading on the Seidel property will require their authorization/signature on Mr. Standa's application. In response to Mr. Standa's permit application the City's Engineer,Jesse Struve provided comments and requested additional information to complete his review. In the email correspondence between Mr. Standa and Struve (Exhibit C), Mr.Standa questions the City's request for additional information. Rather than appearing at Public Comments, Mr. Standa requested an appearance before the City Council to discuss the City's survey requirements and how they may or may not be applicable to his permit request. At this point, Mr.Standa's request has not been processed as an Appeal of an Administrative Decision and no appeal fee has been collected. 21 Feb 2013 Page 2 of 2 Staff Recommendation Staff is unclear as to how Mr. Standa attempts to expand the driveway. There is approximately a 2 to 3-foot grade difference between the driveway and the Seidels' home which may necessitate the installation of a short retaining wall or grading outside of the 12-foot driveway easement. In summary, in order to properly review the Standas' request, additional information must be shown on the survey. This will allow staff to review the complete proposal and assure that the project will not adversely affect any of the properties adjacent and/or involved. COUNCIL ACTION REQUESTED The City Council should review the information and direct staff and the application on how to proceed. City of Orono coun�� Zoning Permit Application ExhibitA Mailing Address: Permit number: �� l� �O� �Q J�,. PO Box 66 Date received: ��S� �r Crystal Bay, MN 55323-0066 /�[j 0 ;t� � Escrow#and �D/� ,O"� � ��'� « ��_::.,�m� amount: / 3/7 � ,��' J � Street Address: ,� A� ti 2750 Kelley Parkway Permit Fee: � � G� ��'�'��7G��y p� Orono, MN 55356 �kESIi��'� Approved by: Fax: 952-249-4616 Notes: Main: 952-249-4600 -`;'�'� :=4:��r��_mn.�_�� This application form must be completed in full and all required information must be submitted. (Please print.) Job Site Address: �"�� c,)"�' �u�c-�� :A-i �v ,c�� CONTRACTOR/APPLICANT INFORMATION: . � Name: �1� r, ,,, � �X � �-� ��.� 7��.= p �•� � /`��v�'n�� , Phone: 3 z v 9 � -�f` � Fax: _. �Z �, , c, �. �1—� J C- Address: f: U� J � v Cit : �::,,•. c- ZIP: SS�3,3 , Contact Person: �p;,,.�; /rlo� U�;,� Contact's phone number z, i� - ' -� J�%lZ: � Email Applicant is: Contractor omeowne (Circle One) PROPERTY OWNER INFOI�VIATION�: /-� Name: U c )c c T U��'rti��' � Phone (day): 1a /� "• L yp � �, ) /`j Mailing Address: sj �+ � �'- (,'�� S� a f' D� .,,T �n n r� ZI P: �S'�,f"�i/ Email and/or Fax _ �-f-� ,.., ,./,c, c./�/n � (�-h�., : /, C � i�-? Overall Project,Description: 1nn l7 �/ � (� �( f 7-'�,v c� �� t't � r ��ti/ �» � r (t, �✓rc,Y� l� Y ! ✓G �o� � -• �y/ �r, c y� Check TypE OF PERMIT Box COST* Dock, Residential - Permanent dock on any lake or initial seasonal dock not on $50 + engineering review costs Lake Minnetonka permanent dock requires CUP Dock, Commercial $50+ engineering review costs Escrow for erosion control and engineerin review costs $2,000 / Driveway Permit (New or Replacement) No charge '✓ Also re uired is a Minor or Ma�or Land Alteration Permit Land Alteration, Major(grading, filling, or excavating) more 500 cubic yards or $50 more than 10 cubic yards in lakeshore setback(also requires CUP) Escrow for erosion control and engineerin review costs As determined b CUP � Land Alteration, Minor(grading, filling or excavating)-500 or less cubic yards $50+ engineering review costs outside of lakeshore setback or less than 10 yards in lakeshore setback Escrow for erosion control and en ineering review costs $2,000 Retaining Wall measuring under four feet require a zoning permit. $50+ engineering review costs Retaining walls measuring more than four feet (from bottom of footings to top of wall) require a building permit. (Tiered retaining walls are considered one wall unless the walls are separated by twice the height of the lower wall.) Escrow for erosion control and engineerin review costs $2,500 Stairway to Lake (New or Replacement) $50+ engineering review costs Escrow for erosion control and engineering review costs $2,000 Structure Permit for other structures not requiring a building permit but $50+ engineering review costs regulated by the zoning code (including, but not limited to accessory building of less than 120 square feet, detached deck or platform and sport court} Escrow for erosion control and en ineerin review costs $2,500 Tree Removal or other vegetation removal in 0 to 75 foot zone No char e. (over) *Permit fee will be collected at the time the permit is issued. Updated: December 30, 2011 HrrLIl.H1V I/VYYIVCR H1,.1�IVVYVLCUl7CIVICIV 1: • Applicant agrees to provide all information required or requested by the Planning Department; � • Owner agrees to pay the City of Orono for engineering consultant review costs where applicable; • Applicant certifies that the information supplied is true and correct to the best of his/her knowledge. The applicant recognizes that they are solely responsible for submitting a complete application being aware that upon failure to do so, the staff has no alternative but to reject it until it is complete; • Applicant acknowledges the attached Escrow Agreement is completed and signed by Owner; • Some or all of the information that you are asked to provide on this application is classified by State law as either private or confidential. Private data is information which generally cannot be given to the public but can be given to the subject of the data. Confidential data is information which generally cannot be given to either the public or the subject of the data. Our purpose and intended use of this information is to annually update our records and records of other governmental agencies required by law. If you refuse to supply the information, the application may not be issued. The undersigned certify that the information supplied is true and correct to the best of their knowledge. Applicant's Signature: U�� Date: /U� �3G��L, Property Owner's Signature: �y �, �J�� Date: /d�3r��L SUBMISSION REQUIREMENTS: Except for tree removal permits, all permits TYPE OF PERMIT: require a completed application form, escrow agreement (signed by the property owner) and escrow check from owner, two copies of all plans, and three copies of all grading plans or surveys/site plans Dock, Residential Seasonal Dock—survey showing proposed dock Permanent Dock- plans as approved by CUP and copy of LMCD permit Dock, Commercial 1. Structural plans for the dock 2. Survey showing the proposed location of the dock 3. Copy of LMCD permit Driveway Permit 1. All Minor or Major Land Alteration Permit requirements 2. Hardcover calculations, existing and proposed 3. Driveway plans Land Alteration, Major 1. Plans as approved by Conditional Use Permit 2. Erosion control plan or copy of MCWD Erosion Control Permit Land Alteration, Minor 1. Grading plan including existing and proposed contours (Less than 10 cu.yds. within 75' of 2. Amount of fill to be imported and/or exported and haul route lake or less than 501 cu.yds 3. Amount of earth to be moved around on site elsewhere.) 4. Erosion control plan or copy of MCWD Erosion Control Permit Retaining Wall 1. Plans for wall(s) 2. Unless repair or exact replacement of existing wall, submit an updated survey with grading plan including existing and proposed contours 3. Hardcover calculation worksheets if in shoreland district 4. Erosion control lan or co of MCWD Erosion Control Permit Stairway to Lake 1. Construction plans for stairway, including footings 2. Topographical survey of property with proposed stairs shown 3. Erosion control plan or copy of MCWD Erosion Control Permit Structure Permit 1. Plans for structure. 2. Survey of property with proposed structure shown and with setbacks to property lines, other structures on property and the septic system indicated. The general location of any sewer and water services should be shown if applicable. 3. Grading plan if grading is required 4. Hardcover calculation worksheets if in shoreland district 5. Erosion control plan or co of MCWD Erosion Control Permit Tree Removal Call: 952-249-4600 to schedule a single tree removal inspection. A re-planting plan/ management plan required for clear cutting, buckthorn or other intensive vegetation removal. Updated: December 30,2011 Council Exhibit B' � UN� �' �� M Zwu� c —z� a Z M DRIVEWAY LOCATION FOR ;=' �'��. 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In order for me to be able to review your permit,the sunrey will need to include the following items: 1. The entire existing driveway location. This includes the area located on your property. 2. The proposed driveway location and how it is going to be connect to the existing driveway. 3. Location of all buildings/structures located within 50' of the lot lines. This includes all structures on your property. 4. Existing and proposed contours (1' increments)throughout your property and 50'on either side of the driveway and property lines. Without this information being included on the survey, I cannot review or approve your permit application. I would be more than happy to discuss the items in more detail. I can be reached directly at 952-249-4661 or at istruve@ci.orono.mn.us. lesse Struve, PE Director of Public Works/City Engineer City of Orono (952) 249-4661 - Direct (952) 249-4616- Fax www.ci.orono.mn.us From: standad�m@aol.com [mailto:standadpmCa�aol.com] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:03 PM To: Christine Mattson Cc: Melanie Curtis; iastrothmanCa>msn.com Subject: Re: 3025 Casco Pt Rd / Permit #2012-01168 Christine, The list from Mr. Struve referred me to the City of Orono city regarding permits. The numbers in my reply refer chronologically to permit requirement numerology. Just as an aside at this point in time there have been 6 surveys reviewed in an attempt to move a driveway 4 feet northerly and 80 feet east to west. This is being done because the Siedel property (property C) is encroaching on Mr. Hurlbert's land. My driveway runs through the encroachment as a Torrens/registered easement which means that this land described in the easement can only be used for a carriageway/driveway for property B (Standa). I can not use it for a sewer, electrical conduit or anything else. Conversely the Siedel's cannot build on,improve in any way on this easement to impede access to my house. Trust me on this I have and will continue to receive sound legal opinions on this matter. The Siedel's did in fact make improvements on the easement when they built their house. These improvements were approved by the City Of Orono. That is a matter of public record. 1. Done 2. Done 3. Done 4. Not applicable. 5. no building or structures proposed. 6. Not applicable. Page 1 of 2 7.320 square feet. 8. On survey 9. Not applicable. 10.Not applicable. 11.On survey. The survey is of the easement. 12.No change in grading the driveway is to be moved north 4 feet. 13. Previous survey which I you were provide with and you rejected without cause has all this informatin. 14. None 15. Not applicable. Respectfully, S Scott Standa -----Original Message----- From: Christine Mattson <CMattson(c�ci.orono.mn.us> To: 'Scott Standa' <standadpmCa�aol.com> Cc: Melanie Curtis <MCurtis(c�ci.orono.mn.us> Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2012 9:19 am Subject: 3025 Casco Pt Rd / Permit#2012-01168 Scott, City engineer, Jesse Struve, has reviewed the zoning permit application and has the following comments. Please address his concerns and submit an updated survey for our review. Don't hesitate to contact us if you have any questions. Chrisfine Mattson Planning Assistant City of Orono 2750 Kelly Parkway Orono MN 55356 (physical address) PO Box 66 Crystai Bay MN 55323-0066 (mailing address) From: Jesse Struve Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 8:18 AM To: Melanie Curtis; Christine Mattson Subject: 20121128 3025 Casco Pt Rd -2012-01168 Melanie, I have reviewed the submitted survey for the proposed driveway at 3025 Casco Pt Rd. This survey does not address any survey requirements. Please have the surveyor address all items called out on the survey requirements. These requirements can be found on the City's website at: http�//www ci orono mn.us/vertical/Sites/%7BCBFC8FAF-C313-4854-A229- 98A3482257F0%7D/uploads/Survev Requirements.pdf Jesse Struve, PE Director of Public Works/City Engineer City of Orono (952) 249-4661 - Direct (952) 249-4616 - Fax www.ci.orono.mn.us Page 2 of 2 Council Exhibit Df Melanie Curtis From: Jessica Loftus Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:13 PM To: Melanie Curtis Subject: FW: City Council Follow Up Flag: Follow up Flag Status: Completed From: standadpm@aol.com [mailto:standadpmCa�aol.com] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:05 AM To: Jessica Loftus Subject: Re: City Council Dear Ms. Loftus, This reply to your E-mail of 1/4/2013 is my formal request to be placed on the agenda for the Orono City Council Meeting of 2/25/2013. I would require no more than 10 minutes of the Council's time. A brief review of the situation follows to bring you and the Council a background for this request. My Family has lived at 3025 Casco Point Road since March of 2004. The property has an access to Casco Point Road by way of an easement with the property to the North (Tract C). All of the properties involved in ths situation are subject to Torrens law and are duly registered. The Easement is Torrens document#505888. Property A to the South changed hands in 06/11. The new owner performed a new survey which revealed a discrepancy and informed Us and Owners of Property C that he desired to reclaim this land. Review of previous surveys indicate that the Lot lines of the 3 properties have been off since at least 1993 and possibly since the original division in 1956. The previous owners of the properties were aware of this and I assume since it involved a common driveway felt it best to continue with the arrangement. The new owner of Property A does not. Personal and legal negotiations ensued and offers of Property(lakeshore), cash or a combination of both were rejected. I now have to move my driveway to have continued access to Casco Point Road. If only it was that simple. In 1994 the current owners and residents of Property C removed the existing residence and built a new one. Their building plan approved by Orono Planning included landscape improvements on the easement. Property C was unaware of this encroachment as were we until the new situation arose. As you are aware there is no Adverse Possession in Torrens property law. I now have to reclaim part of the encroached on easement to comply with survey findings per Property A. Legal representation of Property A agrees that without adjusting the existing driveway North we will not be able to get to our house by Auto. My legal council agrees. I will be doing this in the spring. I have been attempting to obtain a Permit through Orono Planning so I can proceed. I have provided old and newly comissioned surveys of all 3 properties,paid my permit fee and escrow fee. New requirements continue to be raised and requested. I do not have a permit. I am coming to you out of respect for the process. My necessity is clear. Property A has been understanding but this will end in the spring. I welcome any and all of you to come and look for yourselves at the situation. Ms Loftus was provided with pictures and survey for you to review prior to my appearance. Thank you for your patience, Scott and Irene Standa 3025 Casco Point Road Orono, MN 55391 C-612-240-6219 Attachments to follow in different E-mail -----Original Message----- From: Jessica Loftus <jloftusC�ci.orono.mn.us> To: standadpm <standadqmCa�aol.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 4, 2013 4:28 pm Subject: City Council Dear Scott Standa, i The Orono City Council meets on Feb. 25th at 7pm. Please submit your agenda request to me via this email or 2750 +�y Kelley Parkway, Orono, MN 55356. Thank you, Jessica Loftus 952.249.4601 z D3 Melanie Curtis From: Jessica Loftus Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 11:44 AM To: Melanie Curtis Subject: FW: Hulbert encroachment claim Below is more information Mr.Standa wants included for 2/25. From: Scott Standa [mailto:standadpm@aol.com] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:20 AM To: Jessica Loftus Subject: Fwd: Hulbert encroachment claim Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: "John H. Strothman" <jstrothman@lindquist.com> Date:October 11, 2012, 11:56:44 AM CDT To: "'Nelson,James"' <JNelson@Bri��s.com> Cc: "Diana L. Davis" <ddavis@lindquist.com>, "standadpm@aol.com" <standadpm@aol.com>, "jastrothman@msn.com" <jastrothman@msn.com> Subject: RE: Hulbert encroachment claim Jim, Apparently the recent surveyor's actions are different than earlier surveys and stakes are misplaced . I think the Hulberts are remiss if they do not get a survey locating the driveway encroachment since they are already paying for the surveyor to stake it out!! Please be sure your client does not exercise any "self help" prior to this matter being resolved.Your client does NOT have my clients consent to tear up or adversely affect any of his driveway. Incidentally I understand that the alleged encroachment area affected, contrary to your rough x's, is located elsewhere and off of another parcel owned by another party over which my client has an easement.That party does not believe the Hulbert's are accurate (or being reasonable) making it difficult for my client to move his driveway even it that is someday determined to be appropriate. Decades of use make this situation hard for all neighbors affected to comprehend. I hope you can bring some sanity to this problem before there is more ill will created among neighbors by your client's recent demand. Jack From: Nelson, James [mailto:JNelsonCa>Briggs.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:22 AM To: John H. Strothman Cc: Diana L. Davis; Jay Hulbert Subject: RE: Jack, � p . . �' Sorry it's taken me a while to respond, but in response to your email,the x's are where the encroachment sits. As I understand it the Hulberts' surveyor has staked out where the landscape construction will occur and the Standas can see it. From looking at the Standa torrens certificate,you can see that the Standas easement is the southerly 12 feet of Tract C. However, it is really up to the Standas and not the Hulberts to determine where their easement is over Tract C and use that area. All the Hulberts care about is that there is no easement over their property and they are asserting their rights to their entire property. They are not at all interested in monetary compensation. And in answer to your question as to whether more than blacktop is involved in this problem, as far as I know the answer is no, there are no other structures encroaching. Jim From: John H. Strothman [mailto jstrothmanCa�lindquist.com] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 3:09 PM To: Nelson, James Cc: Diana L. Davis Subject: RE: Jim, I will look at your diagrams further and have my client do so but from your X's I cannot really make out where the alleged encroachment sits and its size. Did the Hulberts' surveyor not locate the driveway problem on a survey. If the problem is real and the solution is to move the driveway it would appear everyone will need to know where the easement is and where the alleged encroachment lies. Is more than blacktop involved in this problem? After decades of use "as is" does your client really want to disrupt and relocate the driveway and yards of his two neighbors or would he settle for a monetary consideration for an easement over whatever land is presently part of an encroaching driveway. Jack From: Nelson, James [mailto:JNelson@Briqgs.com] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 1:22 PM To: John H. Strothman Cc: Jay Hulbert Subject: 1ack, Thanks for your call this afternoon. As promised, I am enclosing the following: 1. The portion of the 1993 survey(I already sent you a large copy)where I have "x'd"the area that is on the Hulbert's property but is the driveway being used by the Standas. 2. The boundary survey done by the Hulberts before they purchased the property. 3. The certificate of title to the Standas' property. Note the memorial for a driveway easement over a portion of Tract C of RLS 394. 4. A copy of RLS 394. Mr. Hulbert's landscaping plans involve new�andscaping in an area which includes the area I have "x'd" on item 1. The effect of this will be that the Standas will not be able to use the existing driveway to get z to Casco Point Road; it wiil be too narrow for a car. They have legal access via the memorialized �5 easement, but their physical roadway is not wholly on that easement area. They need to construct their driveway in the memorialized easement area, which is over Parcel C, not over my client's parcel. I am available to discuss at your convenience. Jim �_�ty 7ames E. Nelson Attorney Briggs and Morgan, P.A. 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Northerly of the following described line: Beginning at the Southeasterly corner of Tract B in said Registered Land Survey; thence Southwesterly along a line drawn through a point on the Base line shown on said Registered land Survey 80 feet Northwesteriy from its intersection with the Southeasterly line of said Tract A to the shore of Lake Minnetonka and there terminating. i hereby certify that this survey, plan, or report LAND SURVEY FOR was prepared by me or under my direct supervision JaY HULBERT and that I am o duly Reqistered Land Surveyor FART OFTP,ACT A, RLS N'J. 394 under the laws of the stote of Minnesota. HENNEPIN COUNTY, MINNESOTA ��,.��tS, C. ��, j • DENOTES IP.ON PIPE FOUNO ��`�"r O D�NOTES IRON PIPE SET BY P.L� M0. 15475 �E,� AVERY GROCH01y, LS X DENOTES COMPUTED RLS & DrED CORNERS DATE 25NOV11 REGISTRATION N0. 15475 SCALt: 1 INCH = 80 rEET !vOV. 2011 FILE N0. 3278 FRANK R. CARDARELLE Land Surveyor, Inc. Land Surveyor (� 52 ) 941 -3031 6440 Flying cloua Lzive Eden Prairie, MN 55344 ��r �i� i�a� � �� itr�� Survey For_ R r, i a �irze Book Page File�� 3015 Casco Pt . Rd . Wayzata , MN 55391 \cy `��o '°o r� � , , �o � '° \"90 .� `�>� o_ %� \, �-_;� �'�� , , „ \�� , �, r ,-..,- \. � ,�-�,�; ,\ / S c a 1 e : 1 " =4 0 ' � f� 86`��/ �r �` � �Denotes Iron Mon . Found � � I,/ ��,� Lan� Area . 34 , 818 sq . ft . � Y � � � � House Area : 2329 sq . ft . �t �`� �. a� � bp : � �,.r Dr�'ye j .�� 6oat House Area : 404 sq . ft . ��1 , � 3� o , . � ,��Q� Total Sq . Footage : 2733 sq . ft . p �,'� � � �. Nouse & Boat House Coverage : 7 . g/ 1�� - �.� ti° '� � �,ti��;'�.,•�.�` � �� /. �� :�� z�� '; � // ; o, ' _ `�.� :'j � --� �� ,,> � , \ � °��'- �'r �/`� _ ^ , 'I i/,,/; �-�� '� �� 1e.1�:`. .��11{��/ 'ri. Sca 1 e : 1 " =40 ' \" /" g6`'J�� ;��y // � �Denotes Iron Mon . Found / }% �r- � � �' � , Land Area : 34 , 818 sq . ft . � -y �{�o� House Area : 2329 sq . ft . � i p� � �,7_r Dr��P / a� 6oat House Area : 404 sq . ft , b ��1 � � �� Total Sq . Footage : 2733 sq . ft . p ��J � ��' � /��—�``'`� � ��`�� House & Boat House Coverage : 7 . 8/ 1�� " �� ti�%;�.,��_�'�� ,h.._.. �d' o . . . ��1 �.7'� �� ' 'i � � / '' /,_ ` / o i i, �'�,�. '�� Y, —� �• .� `_ � - � j f ' � ��t � �.� �, � �, � ' ,�.J\ • .� '`. 2 l �'� ��. ` r�,� � -�� '�� , 2� �'� � "�"r', , ,� � � �0� / {� �;/ � `,:� j j' �;�`1 �v � ��„ ;..�,sr ' o �j �.;�' � ,- ,�, �' � � , . � =,.�>. � % � ' i' / ;, .'' "�.: , 9a� /� ,{��, ��r �� /9�.7�' � t �Io'�5� ,�y % � �I% ,�`l ca , 3 �a p�" r' �,, �� IJ ,�. �� Q �' � � �� , . � ` V\`��" 2�' Y'� '�^ y � '` �- � , �� -�., ' lc� : `�. `` ',.�,:' �� i�� O 3 \1 ,��.� . N1� %- � � �� . � �� `.�n�r-� o�,1 � � �b � � � �., , ,1 �,� �� ` - `�� +hat this is a true and cc�rrect representatian of a survey of the boundari.es of : � " -' " ^f a line drawn from a point in the Easterly OQ - r � ^�+ a ooint on the meander ` � _ ,.n �.�; th ./� / j r(` �'`V � _ ' .-- ��.. ' � 1 � _,�,, / o .�.�- �,,i,�. . ,�, � � , / •,' '�/�II Ii /Q / /'/ . ppp/ ./', ,• ��; �% A % /�' �� / / / `�'3�.�� P�Sr. � '� �/ : `�� ,� t �_ � �� ,,,i' � � � � � r ��\ � �. ; � �`1 'J � � � �l �� 2� ''� �-'�Y' ;,�� ti a�,-` >c� � 1 , \-�� ,.�� /�.-py' 3 �1 ��'/°�� -� �I�� , � � \`�, � � � .J' o � �� o�,�� \� c�b �l. v � `� ,t �� `\, I hereby certify that this is a true and cc�rrect representation of a survey of the boundaries of : Tr�act C �nd that part of Tract B 1ying Northerly of a line drawn from a point in the Easterly line of said Tract B , 50 feet South of the Northeast corner thereof , and a point on the meander l � ne shown on the plat of Registered Land Survey No . 394 , 50 feet South of its intersection with the North line of said Tract B , all in Registered Land Survey No . 394 , Hennepin County , Minnesota . Subject to an easement for driveway purposes over a strip of land 12 feet wide , beginning at the most Easterly corner of said Tract C and terminating at the most Southerly corner thereof , the Northerly line of said easement being paral1el with the Southerly line of said Tract C . And of the location of all buildings thereon , and all visible encroachment , if any , from or on said land . Surveyed by me this 18th day of March , 2004 . Frank R . Car arelle - e Reg . License No . 6508 Description furnished by owner . " V �� M . F �� ITE PLAN � GRADI�t��N � �A�P -;OVE� N�'^' �' 75-250 10660SF 250=2C ��E r� �0��,� �t��i �IC�1S —DR ESMT = 10300 —DRESIv __; �;, ��% , �` � X 25�=2574SF X30� _ ��{ _ �T�.,� ��-�� PROPOSED PROPO� p,��E �-�6 - —�_ HOUSE=520 HOU� No ,' !v 0 30 60 gp PORCH=660 DRIVE BOATH=404 (TBR) WAL� � -� , � '<� r��t. POOL= 1320 PORC �""�� c � � SCA�€� . IN FEET TOTAL = 2500 24.3� TOTAL 29.9� .�992h = EXISTI��T ELEVATION. X(998.0) = PROPOSED SPO\T �CE ��(,,ATION \ � = D►RECTION SURFACE DRAINA� �, EXISTING/V � , HOU�E ', PROPOSED ELEVATIONS �. �- GARAGE FLOOR=950.0 - TOP OF FOUNDATION =955.8 - LOWEST FLOOR=947.0 .- � � -�� "�� ' '�l �OT �5- 250= 10660SF '� � � � _ �6,,,��K `�„�FDP� �� 11`� ;�2.�� _ �665SF HC o _ �" d:_ � a�\ � � �dA� �:= - � �, ��s �,� 1 •� �2 ��° P � n �� 22 �^��=� ` g �� ,� T- 75=3820�� o -- _ - - __ � O E ,: 36''P�P _ _ _. � o� �p. 5 � . _ �o �° 1 � �'�� _ -- , _ �� , �- � :� „5-R' {\._ � ; , __ � . _ _ _. � — �; , � '\ _ ^ X �„�P�N - �j _ ,o' M .... _._. . l � /j ". .\\ � l/ ,1�.. : ' � /`� �_ � O �\� � ='_-' ' 946 � ,/ / � .o � no"cW�z � ,: �_ ��`� ;,� ,�j / \ O �-_ �xi : R"�� .� � o � .<� EMOV s4� .. . ��'i �\ '; � EX/ E c� 4 4 .' /� / Sr � 'L , � �0 sr' 1 9 2 �"i J ,_. �, � q rHs _ .� �� ji ,�� ,-- _� �. . �_ � �:� � �-�� ` , � 938, -- --- �� S ,�� ,_ . �� ,� g. � �� , �\ . � _ , � � � �g ��- ��-� Zn�' ` � .Ja� ��_�j/i ��_:.o��.`�. � DESCRIPTION: � �. �\ yo\ , �� NG� - GJ� �• `, Tract C, and that par Z �1 ,, ,.5�� F: �j ��, '. line on RLS 394, 50 � � o� ��'�.,;�,�_ � �0�, Subject to an drivew� D = -� � SHOREUNE NOTE: THIS SURVEY I`. ELEV 928.9 9/23/04 RECEIPT OF ANY EAS \ �a �; � � \ •Cp`, ��, 75-250 10660SF 250=200'�OSF �o2��P =� —DR ESMT = 10300 —DRESMT= 19000 �J ,< X 25�=2574SF X30� = 5700 SFHC PROPOSED PROPOSE°� HOUSE=520 HOUSE = 2612 SF ,% 60 gp PORCH=660 DRIVE = 2500 SF �Q • BOATH=404 (TBR) WALK = 40 SF � ^ POOL= 1320 PORCH = 293 SF � - � ��N FEET TOTAL = 2500 24.3� TOTAL - 5445 SF � ' ' , / 29.9� ' % SPOT ELEVATION. o�,�' -� � �.��"4„Pp ;Q Z � �' ,;.a''=.� D SPOT ATION �� ' ;� N SURFACE DRAINA � � =,�;, :,:,. � EXISTING HOUSE , 'a`'� � y�`� ' \ ' � ' �J-;, LEVATIONS ,� ;�-� � 6 �.�?= -; � h �� a�� _ � � / OR=950.0 � J '' �" -' � � .....J.�......� ol �� NDATION =955.8 ` -'� '� J" � .� � �°. DOR=947.0 __ =` -� �: �� ' �� _ r' o A� �,, � �� ] J �� 1�0 .� AG � , 'S0= 10660SF / �� `o �, � 5a' c�ti � _�- �- -` 6 ( 36"�pK 12��FDAP .� '�� .� �� i� 49 j � ` �„ppPL 2 6 5 S H C o ° d ...,; .. ` ,= - . ...� _.� � %�° o � ,- �v_ __ � . 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I have provided to you, Scott Standa and Jay Hulbert the survey from when I built the property which was reviewed at that time by the City. I believe my survey shows that Mr. Hulbert's line is farther over than he is now claiming. No one has provided me with evidence that my survey is incorrect. A few feet here makes a big difference on the scope (if any)that Scott Standa has to undertake. 2. Any work that that is being proposed will cut into the existing hill on our property. Before we built there were drainage and run off issues in that area affecting the Standa and Hulbert properties and we and the City when to great lengths to insure that we did not create a runoff effect from our construction. To my knowledge the drainage issues there have been greatly reduced. Cutting into our hill there could affect this. 3. We are concerned that removing a part of this hill could result in erosion problems and affect the stability of our foundation. 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P; ' _,a" ..: �, .��` . , 3 a, � .� � " - �:,} ' t: . i r � � � � � � � � e � . . , � � /' ..d._ t`y . ��' �'� i / � � ! �l � j_ � ��' , , _ , � , ; i / - � s ; ; . a� _ / ' � /`� � ., , — "`f —� j"KJ ti` . _, � - � � r � i � .:.,�� 3�; / - �. �; s'y �� i��'� � / �*�- .p�' �.I" , .-Y�- � tr , , r, , / 1 . � i_..�I. _ , i �i : ... s- .l � , .. ..... Council �oNo City of Orono Exhibit I � � Survey Requirements y�. �: Planning &Zoning Department 952-249-4620 `1KeSHoa`� www.ci.orono.mn.us The following is required for land use or permit applications: three (3) original, scaled copies of a certificate of survey, meeting all of the following requirements and a digital copy (or one (1) 8'/"x 11"or 11"x 17")for reproduction. 1. All surveys shall be certified by a Minnesota Registered Land Surveyor. Civil engineers may certify topographic surveys. 2. Permanent iron monuments must be in place at each property corner. 3. Provide a written legal description including all existing easements. 4. Primary and alternate drainfield area corners shall be staked and shown per septic design and tank location shown. 5. Indicate all proposed buildings with dimensions for each building. Reference dimensions are measured perpendicular from the front, side and rear lot lines to the nearest point of each building. 6. Indicate the location of all existing and proposed decks, porches, driveways, curb cuts and other accessory structures. 7. Indicate the total lot area in square feet. 8. Indicate elevations to sea level datum of the top of curb, or if no curb, the edge of the pavement of the street at points where the side lot lines of the property intersect said street. 9. Indicate proposed elevations to sea level datum of the top of foundation, garage floor, the first floor and lowest floor at all structure corners. Indicate top and bottom elevations for all walls. 10. Indicate location and elevation of any structures on adjacent properties within 50' of lot lines. For lakeshore lots,the principal structure on each adjacent lakeshore lot must be shown. 11. Indicate all drainageways, sewer and water mains and services, storm sewers and wetlands within the property and within 50' of the property. 12. Proposed grading plans should be indicated with directional arrows of proposed surface drainage (1' contours on lakeshore properties, 2' on all others). The source for all topography must be indicated on the survey. Provide additional contour intervals as needed in flat areas to show drainage patterns. 13. Existing topographic contours must extend 50' outside of lot lines on all lots. 14. Indicate all trees over 6"diameter within proposed disturbance area(s) and within 75' of the OHWL. 15. Reference the Stormwater Quality Overlay District Map and indicate the appropriate Stormwater Quality Overlay District Tier for the subject property; hardcover calculations required. 16. Indicate wetland boundaries as well as required buffer and buffer setback lines. See: Wetlands & Drainage Districts map. 17. For property adjacent to lakes, ponds, streams or wetlands, indicate the established high water elevation as referenced on the following Ordinary High Water Level(OHWL)chart: Natural Environment(NE) Lakes OHWL Lake Classen 974.5' Dickey Lake 985.5' French Lake North Basin 930.5' Sewage Lagoon 934.3' South Basin 930.0' Lydiard Lake 970.9' Recreational Development(RD) Lakes Long Lake 944.3' Mooney Lake 988.0' Tanager Lake 929.4' Hadley Lake (Plymouth) 961.4' General Development(GD) Lakes Forest Lake 929.4' Lake Minnetonka 929.4 Tributary Streams Painters Creek Stubbs Bay Creek Measure Long Lake Creek at top Wolsfeld Creek of bank Dickey Lake Creek Updated:November 30,2012 =� ' ,,,..�� ,t` FII� 1111■r��l� �� 1�■+i� :s►� � �I� `'"'� � - ',�. _�_-�.��mm w-:��r�- ' ,. ��;�� ,:� � �t�� :T � . - „ \.r.',' ^- . � ,,t.t �.�.- al�.■ • � S� .vc..�...".n 9.: �'ti�j�., `*�`f r ` M�}i.�` ,}y.i �� r t 3i �/ ��}�� ,1l� ' ` � �� ►=r,�,':�1i� ,� �r+.�� '°�►h �$ � . �� - �► 1'�:+..�� • , r,:.� �� r,. .� ... � � } �" P�-9,.��'F7�`*,�r� �.s - #��'F��^":..- tr - :P..w�;�l r �� I�' �, '��=�..� .. ! ,�iTiY. ��i�n��.;i+ t'E,� �w-• �!� r. 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'+�� F �',I�'`� ;; , ►,,,�,.�. � � •� �� y,i�,�; s�,� �... i �� : - •� r.�!!T i ' �¢ .�; �,�1�'4��,� � '� . ; fi��'��i f� s, �r ' ;. ., e��p*1►�� 6�'� yi :.� � 1�. � �. � �:�: :;y �R:13'w .. , , y_ � r:. ��;1 � � fi� � Council Exhibit J Sec. 78-966. - Prohibition. (a) It is unlawful for any person to perform or have performed the following land alteration activities without a conditional use permit issued by the council: (1) Remove, fill, use for fill, dredge, store or excavate rock, sand, gravel, dirt or similar earth material within the limits of the city. (2) Fill or reclaim any land by depositing such material or by grading of existing land to elevate or alter the existing natural grade. (3) Build, alter or repair any seawall or retaining wall, or otherwise change the grade or shore of lakeshore property. (b) All land alterations involving filling and grading shall be performed only with clean fill as defined in section 78-1. Granting of such permits is subject to other regulations and prohibitions of this Code and other applicable statutes or ordinances of other governmental bodies. (Code 1984, § 10.03(19); Ord. No. 163 2nd series, § 1, 12-8-1997) Sec. 78-967. - Exception. (a) The requirements of section 78-966 are not intended to govern the following land alteration activities: (1) Normal and customary grading in the area of an existing or a newly constructed building, or the grading of the driveway serving such building. � (2) Any earth movement under 500 cubic yards which does not adversely impact the existing drainage. (3) Grading, filling or excavating of ten cubic yards or less within the shore setback zone of all lakes enumerated in article IX of this chapter. (b) Such grading and earth movement shall be subject to approval by the building inspector at the time of issuance of a building permit, provided that a plan showing proper drainage and protection of adjoining property has been submitted. Where such earth movement is not being performed in conjunction with a building permit, a separate land alteration permit shall be required. Any unusual land alterations, including earth filling, removal or grading, proposed by a builder shall be subject to a conditional use permit as provided for in this chapter. The following land alterations shall be considered as unusual land alterations: (1) All excavations for foundations in excess of 12 feet average depth if any amount of the excess material removed below 12 feet depth is to be stockpiled on the site. (2) Any additional fill brought on site in excess of 500 cubic yards, except for fill required to raise grade for adequate frost footing protection, the intent being that structures shall not be artificially raised above the preexisting surrounding topography. (3) Grading or alterations that would propose any changes in elevations within five feet of adjacent residential lot lines except for drainage swales and ditches. �(c) The building inspector shall have the authority to refer any requests for land alteration permits to the city council for review and approval in instances where the land alteration appears to potentially create negative impacts or be not in keeping with the goals and policies of the community management plan. (Code 1984, § 10.03(21); Ord. No. 163 2nd series, § 2, 12-8-1997; Ord. No. 171 2nd series, § 1, 4-4-1998) Sec. 78-968. - Permit. An application for a conditional use permit shall be accompanied by a drawing made by a registered surveyor or other competent person showing the location of the proposed excavation or storage and shall state the amount of material which is to be removed, excavated or stored, filled or graded, and such other information as the council may require. Applications shall be filed with the city administrator and shall be accompanied by a deposit to be determined by the city, which will be used to offset the cost of processing the application. Any unused portion will be refunded to the applicant. (Code 1984, § 10.03(20)) - r � �.v — ; �� _� y1SJ— . . �� 1 r, � �� Council , ,. 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' 1\Nd� �� o�,�-� � 1Sb3H1�ilOs 1 � �� .. ,: �d �� ,�D ,�r � 1 �� ;' S 4�,'�6 �' y�0 �....... ........sy.6:;, I,1�j t., ,:'� ` O ' � � � � � �'� 5� �i •....... .�� . : .� y . ..._..... O 11 � .... �j ^�� ..9�6�' 1I+ �� O�' .•(';�1,� i � � � F� � ��6 ' � �'� •''07 q�� oct-�- ,�a /O / '� q /O ^� �� ' �ys • // � �/ F ,,. ° 0 6 �,°~y �' � ,�°�`. - �` �\ a° � ��} YyO�O "��_ ��^� �O�� 0 a��," : ,�^o �a� � �q6 �b� �� a ` `'� . y "' � � J�� o � �� co �� y � r� ,—'. . �� . ^D'� 1 ��'�� :' � a� �� • � �� i a � � rn o� �c C) � � C � �; � r* C'� Z - �� ; � �' ` � � � � ` � V � � � A 1 MINUTES OF THE ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING Monday,February 25,2013 7:00 o'clock p.m. PL ING DEPARTMENT REPORT 5. NAV FEBRUARY 11 MEETING SUMMARY Gaffron noted a meeting � the Navarre area residents and business people s held on February 11, 2013, in the Orono Council C bers, which was well attended. It was first of a series of ineetings directed at bringing the community avarre together to discuss co rns affecting the residents and businesses in the area and provides an op rtunity to present wha eps the City and County are taking to address neighborhood issues. Gaffron noted he did receive an e-mail from Jim Grub irecting his staff to perform certain tasks and Staff will be looking forward to the results of that ion. McMillan stated she would like the City ncil to figure out wha ind of technology they want to utility on the streetlights befare the C cil determines what type of p s should be used. McMillan stated the Council should also tal out whether drip irrigation and other � ms are doable. McMillan stated before the A 8`h meeting she would like to have some typ of idea of what should be done to the sidewalks in t area and that perhaps some photographs could be ob 'ned to help them figure out what other ' ues need to be addressed. McMillan stated she would also to touch base on the Navarre impr ements at the March 25`h meeting to see if any new information is av ' able. Anderso oted she has met with the City Administrator on possible grants and the end of Marc ' the dea ' e for the first grant. Anderson indicated the Council might see a recommendation from Sta f to rsue that. 6. PERMIT NO.2012-00168- SCOTT STANDA—3025 CASCO POINT ROAD, SURVEY RE QUIREMENTS Scott Standa,Applicant, was present. Curtis stated on November 15`�', the applicants submitted a zoning permit application for minor land alteration and driveway expansion. This request followed a zoning permit application request by Jay Hulbert,the neighbor to the immediate south, which involved land alterations and driveway/hardcover removals which appear to impact the Standas' driveway. The portions of driveway to be removed connect to the Standa driveway are as indicated on the survey and aerial photo. Another portion of the Standa driveway encroaches on to the Hulbert property and runs next to the Seidel residence on 3015 Casco Point Road. The City Attorney has indicated that since the Standa driveway exists within an easement over the Seidel property, a permit application to expand the driveway and conduct grading on the Seidel properiy will require their authorization/signature of Mr. Standa's application. In response to Mr. Standa's permit application,the City Engineer provided comments and requested additional information to complete his review. In the email correspondence between Mr. Standa and Struve, Mr. Standa questions the City's request for additional information. Rather than appearing at the council meeting and speaking during the public comments portion of the meeting,Mr. Standa has requested an appearance before the City Council to discuss the City's survey requirements and how they may or may not be applicable to his permit request. --- --- Page 6 of 21 -------- -- ------.._.-- MINUTES OF THE ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING Monday,February 25,2013 7:00 o'clock p.m. (6. PERMIT NO. 2012-00168-SCOTT STANDA —3025 CASCO POINT ROAD, SUR I�EY REQUIREMENTS, Continued) Staff is unclear as to how Mr. Standa is proposing to expand the driveway. There is approximately a 2 to 3-foot grade difference between the driveway and the Seidel's home, which may necessitate the installation of a short retaining wall or grading outside of the 12-foot driveway easement. In order to properly review the Standas' request, additional information must be shown on the survey. This will allow Staff to review the complete proposal and assure that the project will not adversely affect any of the properties adjacent and/or involved. Scott Standa, 3025 Casco Point Road, stated he requires a driveway and that he cannot get to Casco Point Road due to the alterations that are being forced on him. Standa stated he is not going to put up with something that looks crummy and the entire project will take one day. Standa stated the house to the north is above his property and his properiy is above the house to the south. Everything drains over to the Dennis's. The Dennis's backyard is below lake level and that is where all the water goes. Standa indicated two years ago there was approximately 90 inches of snow and he did not have any problems with drainage and the house to the south had no problems as well. In addition, the house to the south has a sump pump to keep their basement dry. Standa reiterated he has to do this project. Reason and negotiation did not work and he is being forced to do this project. He has lived in this house for nine years. These three properties were divided up in 1956 and have been sitting in approximately the same condition with the exception of one house that was replaced in 2004. Standa stated when he went to get his new survey through the Gronberg agency, he was told those lot lines have been off forever. People have lived with this. The new neighbor has chosen not to, which is his right under Torrens law. Standa indicated he has to move a very small area as part of this project and that he does not think anything can stop him from getting to Casco Point Road because his easement is Torrens. Standa stated in 2004, when the neighbor moved, they built and improved upon his easement. Standa indicated the City of Orono approved a site plan to build upon his easement, which needs to be overturned. Standa commented he does not want to do that but he has no choice. He will not do any damage to the Seidel properly. Standa stated he does not feel he should have to go through all kind of drainage issues since he or his neighbors have never had any problem with drainage in the past. Standa noted his neighbors are here to provide comment. Dan Seidel, 3015 Casco Point Road, stated they are here tonight because they have to sign off on a permit since they technically own the easement. Seidel stated in his opinion they did not build on the easement. If you look at the survey from the City, it looks like the driveway is still there and you can see a little bit of the pavement, which is what it actually is and where they built. Everything was fine until the new neighbor moved in and decided to do a new survey. Now that neighbor is saying his lot line is farther over by approximately six feet. Seidel indicated he is not sure what happened with the survey and that he is not sure if the Halpren's have obtained a permit yet to do their project. Seidel noted no one has shown him that his survey is wrong and that in his mind the Halpren's will be tearing up his property to do his property. — -----.__._. .._._...--------- — P a g e 7 of 21 MINUTES OF THE ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING Monday,February 25,2013 7:00 o'clock p.m. (6. PERMIT NO. 20I2-OO168-SCOTT STANDA—3025 CASCO POINT ROAD,SURT�EY REQUIREMENTS, Continued) Seidel stated Scott Standa is entitled to access to Casco Point Road. Seidel stated he is still not sure that it is not his land that the other neighbor is looking to tear apart. The next step is to address drainage. Seidel indicated they have been told prior to them moving in that there have been drainage problems in the past. They have spent a lot of money and put a lot of effort into not having drainage problems. The City had nine inches of snow recently and they haven't had any problem. Seidel stated to propose to tear down the hill has caused them to be concerned about drainage but that the drainage will be on the Halpren and Standa properties. Seidel stated he is also concerned about erosion by the house if that dirt is taken away. There is also a garage back there and that he is concerned about access in that area as well. Seidel indicated he does not have a problem with what Scott is proposing but that he wants to make sure his land is not being torn up and drainage problems and erosion problems do not occur. McMillan asked if a small retaining wall would be necessary. Struve indicated there is approximately a two to three foot height difference from the house down to the driveway. Struve stated one of the requirements is you have to maintain your grading within the easement as well. If the road is expanded out four feet, in order to try to re-grade that slope back in at a maintainable slope, you would have to go outside of the easement. Struve indicated the concerns he has were addressed with Mr. Standa in a phone conversation. The main issue is that Mr. Standa's survey just showed the existing topography and did not show the proposed driveway and how he was going to mitigate the slope or how he was going to maintain that area. Conversely, if the Seidel's grant Mr. Standa a temporary easement to grade outside of his easement, he would be able to grade the slope and be able to maintain it. Struve indicated he is not sure how wide Mr. Standa is proposing to expand the driveway because it has not been shown on a survey and that he cannot offer specifics. In addition,the Seidel's cannot sign off on anything because they do not know what is going to be done. Struve indicated Mr. Standa may need a retaining wall if the Seidel's do not grant him permission to grade outside the easement but that he cannot comment on it until he gets that additional information. Anderson commented she has grave concerns about the drainage and the erosion problems that could result. Anderson stated the City Engineer and the City Council simply do not have enough information at this point to comment on the project. Struve stated that is correct, but noted he does not have a big concern with the drainage at this point. If you look at the survey provided for the Seidel property, most of the drainage is handled on the road side portion of the property. By just looking at the survey, it appears that's where the drainage concerns were and not along the side of the house. Anderson noted she was worried about drainage impacting the neighbors. ---------- -------- Page 8 of 21 MINUTES OF THE ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING Monday,February 25,2013 7:00 o'clock p.m. (6. PERMIT NO. 2012-00168-SCOTT STANDA —3025 CASCO POINT ROAD, SURVEY REQUIREMENTS, Continued) Struve stated his main concern is how they are planning on dealing with the slope differentiaL If the Seidel's do not want to allow him to re-grade the area outside the easement, a short retaining wall will probably be necessary. McMillan asked what the City Council is being requested to do at this point. Curtis indicated Staff requested additional information and Mr. Standa asked to appear tonight because he felt enough information has been provided. Staff is looking for topography, the location of the Seidel home, and other additional information to address the engineer's concerns. Struve stated per conversations with Mr. Standa,he has indicated he is only widening the driveway four feet but that Staff needs to know the engineering and how they are going to deal with the slope. Seidel asked if Halpren has been granted a permit. Curtis indicated he has been. Levang asked how that project impacts this. Curtis indicated the Halpren permit is a grading and hardcover removal permit. Seidel stated when you look at his survey; it looks like they are going to tear up the asphalt that is depicted on his property. Curtis noted the Halprens are not proposing to work past the property line and that Staff would require Mr. Halpren's surveyor to repaint and re-stake the property line. Mr. Halpren is proposing to remove the bituminous on the south side of the property line. Seidel indicated he disagrees with the location of the property line. McMillan asked how old his survey is. Seidel indicated it is dated 2004. If his survey is correct, the Standa project is much smaller. McMillan asked how the City can resolve a dispute between property owners. Mattick noted the City relies on the surveys in approving applications and that the City is not in a position to determine property lines. If someone wants to remove hardcover on their property, that is something that is rather standard. As it relates to the driveway that is being proposed to be expanded, the City will want to make sure, from an erosion control standpoint,that that is being handled correctly. The City does not determine the location of the easement or what it consists of. -------------------------------------- Page 9 of 21 MINUTES OF THE ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING Monday,February 25,2013 7:00 o'clock p.m. (6. PERMIT NO. 2012-00168-SCOTT STANDA —3025 CASCO POINT ROAD, SURVEY REQUIREMENTS, Continued) Mattick noted Standa does have the right to construct a driveway on his property and that the City is basically going to make sure that all parties are aware of what is going on and that the work is done to city standards. Mattick stated it appears the issue is the City Engineer is unable to know that the slope will work without a full set of plans. To the extent there are property line disputes, the City Council cannot say who is right and who is wrong. Seidel commented Casco Point Road is legendary for survey issues and that four or five feet can make a big difference. Seidel stated the issue is whether he just accepts the fact that there is a new survey and that a couple feet of pavement on his property will be removed. Mattick stated he can also hire a second surveyor and get a second opinion. At this point what the City has received is a professional survey indicating where the property line is. Seidel asked what is wrong with his survey. Curtis stated she would like clarification on what Mr. Seidel feels is wrong on the Halpren survey. Curtis indicated she measured the driveway on his property and the width of the driveway is consistent on both surveys. What is not consistent is the width of his driveway to the south and that it is shown wider on the Halpren survey. Seidel stated it does make a difference because if you look at his survey,there are probably a couple of feet that will be impacted. Struve stated Staff measured the portion of the driveway to the property line and that the width is approximately the same but that it is the distance to the south that varies slightly. Curtis indicated the surveys are on different scales. Seidel stated his issue is why the Halpren surveyor did not question that his easement looks like it cuts through a hill. Standa stated he did not think his easement cut through the hill until the grading was done. Seidel stated the hill has not been touched. City Administrator Loftus stated one thing the parties might want to consider is inviting each of the surveyors out to see if they can come to some sort of agreement. Loftus indicated surveyors have certain benchmarks that they use and perhaps they could agree on which benchmarks should be used. Loftus recommended getting the surveyors together to see if they could resolve the issues to avoid the parties � being charged for a second or third survey. Loftus stated might be the cheapest and most viable option and that the City Council is not going to be able to resolve anything tonight. Seidel indicates he understands that and that is why they are holding offon signing on the permits. -------- -- ------- -- Page 10 of 21 --- --- � MINUTES OF THE ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING Monday,February 25,2013 7:00 o'clock p.m. (6. PERMIT NO. 2012-00168-SCOTT STANDA —3025 CASCO POINT ROAD, SURVEY REQUIREMENTS, Continued) Standa stated he wants to get to Casco Point and get out of the way. Standa indicated had this all arranged since last October and that he wants to go forward with the work as soon as the frost comes out of the ground. Standa requested the City Engineer call Mark Gronberg and tell him all the things he needs on the survey so he can proceed. McMillan commented that is not the City Engineer's job. Standa indicated he spoke to Mark Gronberg and was told that he didn't need any of that stuff. Standa stated he does not know what to tell the surveyor. Struve stated he can contact the surveyor. Standa noted he does have a 12-foot easement. McMillan asked if Mr. Standa understands why Staff needs an updated survey. Standa indicated he does. Standa stated he will not be using all 12 feet of his easement but just enough to get a car into his garage so he doesn't have to park on the street. Mattick stated to his understanding the City Engineer has indicated he is agreeable to contacting Mark Gronberg and attempt to get the information Staff is looking for. It is Staff's position at this point that they do not have all the information they need. Standa indicated he will call Mr. Gronberg and tell him to expect Struve's call. The City Council took no formal action on this item. #12-3582- COLSON CUSTOM HOMES ON BEHALF OF SWB HOLDINGS,LLC,4731 NO SHORE DRIVE—RESOLUTION NO. 6206 Rodney Colson, Ap � nt, was present. Curtis noted the City Council rev� this application at their February 11`�' mg and directed that the application be brought back to the P a ' Commission for review o e revised survey and bluff location information. The Council also requeste � ut from both t ity Engineer and the Department of Natural Resources on this application prior to their su review. The requested DNR and City Engineer comments are attached as Exhibits D and E. The Planning Commission reviewed this appl' ion again at their February 19 eting and voted to recommend approval of variances result' m a 10-foot side street setback from the we , ot width and lot area variances to build a single- ily residence on the property. Variances to allow encro ments into the bluff setback and the f impact zone were also recommended for approval as follows: ---_..---------- ----- ---- ----- P a ge 11 of 21 -- --------..— MINiTTES OF THE • ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING Monday,February 25,2013 7:00 o'clock p.m. (7. #12-3582- COLSON CUSTOM HOMES ON BEHALF OF B WB HOLDINGS, LLC, 4731 NORTH SHORE DRI t�E—RESOL UTION NO. 6206, Continued) 1. The proposed home to be allowed at a 12-foot setback from the top of bluff; 2. The proposed patio to be allowed to encroach 10 feet into the 30-foot bluff setback but must be oriented so as not to encroach into the 20-foot bluff impact zone; and 3. The proposed elevated deck to be allowed two feet from the top of bluff and will be constructed with helical screws or another less invasive method. Planning Staff has reviewed the revised plans and recommends approval of the variances as requested consistent with the February survey and revised house plans showing the reoriented deck. It should be noted the proposed home location will result in minor grading within the bluff and bluff impact zone to accommodate drainage. Staff recommends approval of the application, and the City Council should consider adopting or amending the attached draft resolution approving the variances as requested. Levang asked if there is going to be some assessment of the vegetation on the bluff and a plan to make sure that there is correct vegetation there. Curtis noted Page 4, Item No. 3, has been added since the DNR review and will require the developer to provide an analysis of the vegetative stability of the bluff performed by a qualified third party and to agree to comply with recommended bluff stabilization measures as necessary prior to the issuance of the certificate of occupancy. McMillan stated she would recommend the bluff stabilization measures be done as a condition of the building permit and that she has a concern about the vegetation being destroyed during the building process. McMillan stated in her view the whole process should be done earlier. Curtis asked if the building permit should be delayed until the growing season. McMillan stated she wants to make sure the analysis is done prior to the construction beginning. Curtis noted a complete analysis cannot be done during the winter season. McMillan stated she was looking to identify trees and shrubs. Gaffron stated Staff is primarily worried about grass cover and that the existing trees and shrubs are not as crucial for the erosion potential. Staff is more concerned about grass cover and what can be established versus trees or shrubs. Gaffron indicated he is not sure how a reasonable analysis can be done at this time until the growing season starts. McMillan commented it will be hard to grow grass on the bluff and questioned whether that is something that should be done. Gaffron indicated they do want to see grass growing on the bluff rather than bare ground. Gaffron stated due to the time of year, it is impossible to determine what is there and analyze what is growing on the surface. -- -- -- Page 12 of 21 ---- ---------