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ITYJ OF ORONO - VARIANCE APPLICATION Wor",
Initial Appl: cation Fee $14VI U �
($50.00 per each additional varia^ a
Renewal Variance Fee $75.00
(no change from original application)
After -the -Fact Fees (Double application fee)
PROPERTY LOCATION
Site Address 3*5 CASCC C►ACLE
Property Identification Number (P.I.D.)
Please check one - Property �<, abstract or torrens'
;
Attach legal description to application if not included on
required survey.
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APPLICANT 1 Phone ( home) 95a__13 E
NamePhone (•.nor'{'� -121�1
Address �-t C�'y
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OWNER (if different t:^an applicant) Phone (home)944 -
Name i�3EJZ9� 12A4ECA049011 Phone (wcrk)CqE=1f:293-2233
Address: 035 MAI CQ-LE :'r : �lPit4, hi1� _ _ ip
Date Property Acgt (month/year)
I (400) (do net) al. own the adjacent parcels of land.
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PRESENT USE OF PROPERTY
Present
pr,,sent '_'se or Property
Residential
Other (specify)
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DESCRIPTION nF REQUEST "'.stimated cc_:__ _ �f�� on Ccst $ _
VAQ1AiJC �C� tir C)�G'1lE�
Describe request in detail:oCLUV1 �
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VARIANCES REQUIRED
- Lot Area
Setbac. Variances
Other __5441MM►�
Lot width � Fardcovt:.
Front
f +c L_ W/
Side
Rear .
Attach legal description to application if not included on
required survey.
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APPLICANT 1 Phone ( home) 95a__13 E
NamePhone (•.nor'{'� -121�1
Address �-t C�'y
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OWNER (if different t:^an applicant) Phone (home)944 -
Name i�3EJZ9� 12A4ECA049011 Phone (wcrk)CqE=1f:293-2233
Address: 035 MAI CQ-LE :'r : �lPit4, hi1� _ _ ip
Date Property Acgt (month/year)
I (400) (do net) al. own the adjacent parcels of land.
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PRESENT USE OF PROPERTY
Present
pr,,sent '_'se or Property
Residential
Other (specify)
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DESCRIPTION nF REQUEST "'.stimated cc_:__ _ �f�� on Ccst $ _
VAQ1AiJC �C� tir C)�G'1lE�
Describe request in detail:oCLUV1 �
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VARIANCES REQUIRED
- Lot Area
Setbac. Variances
Other __5441MM►�
Lot width � Fardcovt:.
Front
f +c L_ W/
Side
Rear .
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Describe undue hardship or rractical difficulty resulting from strict -
enforcement of zoning regulations:
P OI�1USaALPROPERTY CJNOZTZONS
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Describe unusual proper-: conditions prevent -
Code compliance with zc •.c
Code Recrairements :
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UPQU=M SU MITTALS
L. Completed Application Form
�. Certified Property owners List of owners within 150' (you must obtain
this list from Sernepin County Derart:aent of Financa A-603 Govt Canter
348-3271).
p. Stamped, legal sized h ed envelopes (#10) pre -addressed to each of tht
names on the above list with, no retsrn address (--,se address labels
obtained with property owners list).
Certificate of survey inciudin.g hardcover ca_cslaticls as required.
Topographic survey (existing and proposed elevations) if any cnaraes
in existing grade are proposed.
Plat Map (obtainer with property owners list`.
As anaddend_tn to this application, please attach a separate list of
*ny other persons you wish notifiaa of this application.
Ad I tional it -ens as may be requested by City staff.
_-_-_-_--- -pro Property -0_ ` 54 gn cais apclicatic.n. Please
.a P y carte_ r,.ns..
he Applicant ar...
em*mber that your variance application is r.ot complete if the above
information has not been included. ___________________
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Certification by Zoning Department that variance Application is couplet:.
Zoninq Official's Signature Date
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�PLI15 SIGNATURE
The applicant hereby agrees to pr oviZe all information fegs_and/cr
requested by the Zoning Adninis,.r..`or, agrees P
unusual expenses-ncurred in review a. t is applica -an, and cer-i3ttuff his/her
the inf ormat'On SUpp 1 lrcl � a ue and corm - t
knowledge.
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Applicant's Signa=i ,
0"NZIS SIGNATURE
The owner hereby ackowledges and agrees to this application and further
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,.Qo.,rs. commission memoers, and Coun i i memner� c_ r
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CITY OF ORONO NOTICE
The Planning Commission will hold
meetings in the Council Champers at 1275
South Brown Road on Monday April 16 1990
to revtww Inc following Land use appltcations
I No 1500 Donald Olson of 4590 Nonh
Arm Drive seeks approval of a condiionsl use
permit and variance to keep uD to 2 horses on
this Property in the LR to lakeshore res.oen
lial Toning district such ' Jf"S to be housed
in an existing structure less Imen the requifed
75 from the side lot line
2 No I b09 Earl Freeman the owner of the ,
propent located of 4545 Watertown Rosa
seeks approval of a varmwe to allow an exist
rip uversite0 OCC MWOry Dote balm structure to
remain On this properly will, no Principal
structure
3 No 1510 P.chard W Brown o' 2685
Shaoywood Road seeks approval of a cond.
tional use permit to allow construction and use
o' a non rental quest apenmenl addition to his
Swilling residence
a No 1511 The City o' Ofonc seeks so
proval of seloock variances and a Conditiona'.
use permit for construction of a pump house
and pressure lank with Outlot B O! the Pro
Posed Pro' of East Wiwow Woods located at
2210 Way+ats Boulevard The Prooeny in
which propoged Outiol B will be located is cur
rently legali. d+scftbea as oulkit A Ringers
Wood and 1_1 , Bock 3 Ringers Wood
5 No 1512 Steven Ruce or 4625 Was!
Brant` Rosa seek t appiPi - o' a^ after the
fact conditional use permit for isnd atleratior
to ctaate tefracea gardens for the growing o'
flowers to be Soto Comr WCialiy O" Site lno re
Tali U1.5 activity It Proposed for Me Property.
6 No 1513 Weed Kral,. c' 4775 Nonn
ShOff- Clive seeks aWc-af o' f . ccove, ana
street seloack v _ istruct an add.
lion to his e■.sti ice
7 No 1514 R, I Ale, of 270 Now, W.-
low Drive seeks approval O' a height variance
for a propoMa accessory two structure to be
moved onto the ptopeny
8 No 151 5 Je"fey Johnson c' ad25 Chan
ry Avenue seeks approval Of a variance and
conditional use pefmd to, construction of a
permanent dock from his homestead Property
through a protected wetland area across the
platted fighAOf-way Of Cherry Avenue and
across Lot 2 Block 3 Crystal Bay view to
".e snore of Lake Mwwwlonka
9 No 1517 Whitney MacMillan of 1560 Fo■
Street seeks approval of a land ailefat,on con
aitiorim use permit lot grading and filing in on
cuss of 100 cubic yards to create a pond
10 No 1518 Bid Island Boara of Governors
Seeks approval o' a conditional use permit to
ConatruCt 5 permarner! camp cabin on the
Veterans Camp Property On Big Island
11 No 1520 Gerry and Dianne Carlson
owners of the Property at 3165 Casco Cifue
seeks approval O' hardcover and &vote"
IakeshWe setback variances for construction
o' a new gat age driveway and swimming pool
Alf persons wrSmng to be head will appeal
at this time Tne meeting starts at 7 00 p m
Written comments are solicited Rats are avail
able lot review in the Cay Offices by alp
pointment
Cuy of Orono
By Planning Comm,s>wr
MTChae, i Ga"ron
Ass! Planning S Zori,ng Aa—mstrato'
,PutNrshea it Thp .axe, and f -ogee, Apr .
!990
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CITY OF ORONO - NOTICE
The Planning Commission will :gold public hearings in the Council Chambers
at 1275 South Brown Road on Monday, April 16, 1990 to review the following
land use applications:
1. #1508 Donald Olson of 4590 North Arm Drive seeks approval of a
conditional use permit and variance to keep up to 2 horses on this
property in the LR-lA lakeshore residential zoning district, such
horses to be housed in an existing structure less than the required
75' from the side lot line.
2. 41509 Earl Freeman, the owner of the property located at 4545
Watertown Road, seeks approval of a variance to allow an existing
oversized accessory pole barn structure to remain on this property
with no principal structure.
3. 41510 Richard W. Brown of 2685 Shadywood Road seeks approval of a
conditonal rise permit to allow construction and u^e of a non -rental
guest apartment addition to his existing residence.
4. #1511 The City of Orono seeks approval of setback variances and a
conditional use permit for construction of a pump house and pressure
tank within Outlot B of the proposed plat o` East Willow Woods,
located at 2210 Wayzata Boulevard. The property in which proposed
Outlot B will be located is currently legally described as Outlot A,
Ringers Wood and Lot 2, Block 3, Ringers Wood.
S. #1512 Steven Puce of 4625 West Branch Road seeks approval of an
after -the -fact conditional use permit for land alteration tc create
r, terraced gardens for the growing of flowers to be sold commercially
off site (no retail sales activity is proposed for the property).
6. #1513 Walter Rrahl of 4775 North Shore- Drive seeks approval of
hardcover and street setback variances to construct an addition to his
existing residence.
'. 01514 Ronald Millet of 270 North Willow Drive seeks approval of a
height variance for a proposed accessory barn structure to be moved
onto the property.
8. #1515 Jeffrey Johnson of 3825 Cherry Avenue seeks approval of a
variance and conditional use permit for construction of a permanent
dock from his homestead property through a protected wetland area,
across the platted right-of-way of Cherry Avenue and across Lot 2,
Block 3 'Crystal Bay View' to the shore of Lake Minnetonka.
9. 01517 Whitney MacMillan of 1560 Fox Street seeks approval of a land
alteration conditional use permit for grading and filing in excess of
100 cubic yards to create a pond.
10. #1518 Big 'sland 9oard of Governors seeks approval of a conditional
use permit to construct 5 permanent camp cabins on the Veterans' Camp
property on Big 'sland.
CITT OF ORONO - NOTICE CONTINUED Page 2 of 2
11. #1520 Gerry and Dianne Carlson, owners of the property at 3165 Casco
Circle, seek approval of hardcover and average lakeshore setback
variances for construction of a new garage, driveway and swimming
pool.
All persons wishing to be heard will appear at this time. The meeting
starts at 7:00 PM. Written comments are solicited. Plans are available
for review in the City offices by appointment.
City of Orono
By: Planning Commission
Michael P. Gaffron,
Asst Planning & Zoning Administrator
To be published the week of April 2, 1990.
CERTIFICATE OF MAILING
STATE. OF MINNESOTA )
COUNTY OF HENNEPIN
CITY OF ORONO )
I, Jamie Bosma, of the City of Orono, Hennepin County,
Minnesota, do hereby certify that a Notice of Public Hearing
concerning the matter of #1520, was mailed to the attached list
of property owners .
In Witness Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal
this 30th day of March, 1990.
JamU Rosma
CITYof ORONO
Yost Office Box 66 • Crystal Bay, Minnemota 55M a MunicipW ORiew
On the North Shore of Lake Minnetonka
February 6, 1090
Gerald 6 Diane Carlson
6935 Mark Terrace
Edina, MN 55435
Re: Proposed Additions to Residence, ?165 Casco Point Road
Dear Mr. 6 Mrs. Carlson:
The City's review of your building permit application is nearing
completion. Your application at this time is for merely the house
addition, with the pool and replacement detached garage for future
construction.
The proposed house extension to the east appears to meet all setback
standards. with the existing garace and driveway, the new addition will
result in a 42 square foot hardcover excess on the property. in order for
the City to approve your new house addition, you must remove 42 square feet
of hardcover, which should be fairly simple by removing excess portions of
sidewalk between the house and the street. This hardcover must be removed
prior to your footing form ir.s?ection, and will be verified at that time
before you will be allowed to pour footings.
The proposed future replacement of the existing garace appears to be a
logical and appropriate addition to the property, but results in the need
fer a hardcover variance. Likewi.se, any future pool locates 7_akeward of
the front wall of the house will require hardcover and average lakeshore
setback variances.
7 have encloses a copy of the hardcover review. Please advise
inmediately where you propose to remove the 42 s.f. of excess hardcover. 7
would encourage you to apply for the garace/driveway hardcover variances as
soon as possitle in order that final hardcover rarameters for your property
can be established before you construct new sidewalks.
Please contact me at 4'73-735- i' you have further questions.
Sincerely,
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Michael F., •a.#W--ror.,
P.sst Planr..no 6 7oring Administrator
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Enclosure - Furvey,'staff Fardcover Pec•:ew
cc: Lyle Omar, senior Bui1c'ing :nrpec'or
Bruce Vane, Building inspector
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HARD RURrl1CC AREAS:
CiRCLE
- 75 Foot setbacK
CASCO0
Total Area 9615 square feet
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Shad . _103 square feet
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Walk • 1e8 square feet
Concrete- 132 square feet f
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Total 423 square feet
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Percent of coverage - 4.40
75 - 250 foot setback
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South of ::aid lots, by an extension
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To:
From:
Date:
Subjects
Planning Commission Chairman Kelley
Orono Planning Commission Members
City Administrator Bernhardson
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Michael P. Gaffron, Asst Planning & Zoning Administrator
April 11, 1990
#1520 Jerry & Diane Cirlson, 3165 Casco Circle -
Variances - Public Hearing
Zoning District - LR-lC, Single family lakeshore residential, 1/2
acre
Application - Request for hardcover, average setback, and lot
coverage variances.
List of Exhibits
Exhibit A - Application
Exhibit B - Plat Map
Exhibit C - Property Owners List
Exhibit D - Survey
Exhibit F - Proposed Site Plan
Exhibit F - Proposed Garage Elevation Views
Exhibit G - Staff Lot CovergL Calculation
Exhibit H - Applicants' Hardcover Calculation with Staff
Revision
Pertinent Facts -
1. Note that a permit has been issued for the addition on the
east end of the house, which staff determined met the
average setback, hardcover, and lot coverage requirements
with the currently existing garage and no pool. The
applicants were advised early on that while this addition
could be approved absent the pool and new garage proposal,
the pool and garage would definitely need hardcover and
average setback variances which staff was certainly not in a
position to guarantee could be obtained.
2. Existing hardcover on the property it the 0-75' zone is
4.4%, consisting of some concrete walks, plat:orms and a 100
square foot sh* d.
In the 75-250 zone, existing hardcover including the
addition under construction is approximately 23%. Proposed
hardcover in the 75-250' zone is 5,739 square feet or 31%
(5,889 s.f. or 31.19% if existing landscape rock/plastic is
not removed). This excludes the water surface area of the
pool, which staff has consistently excluded from hardcover
calculations.
3. Construction of the pool and the patio surrounding the pool
requires an average lakeshore setback variance. The pool
and associated patic, encroach 55' past the average lakeshore
setba.t line, Fut do not encroach into the 0-75' setback
area.
Toning File 01520
April 11, 1990
Page 2 of 3
4. Existing lot coverage on the property including the existing
g&rage, existing house and new addition existing shed by the
lake, and the existing wood deck W-!ich is approximately
24"-36" above grade with 18" benches), is 3,436 square feet
or 12.25%. Proposed lot coverage including the proposed
,garage, existing house with current addition, existing and
proposed decks, and pool including both the pool structure
and its patios, and the shed in the 0-75' zone, totals 4,898
square feet or 17.5%.
Discussion
The proposed pool encroaches approximately 55' past the
average lakeshore setback. Because this property is somewhat on
a curve in the shoreline, the houses on either side do not face
parallel with applicants' house, but face somewhat away from
applicants' lakeshore yard. In that respect, the actual impact
on lake views by the this pool may he rather minimal. Applicants
have not specified what height fence (if any) is proposed to
surround the pool.
The hardcover increases on the property are due to a number
of factors. First, the new garage is intended to he fully
conforming in location and orientation. The existing garage is
within 1' of the street lot line and cars leaving it back
directly into the street. The new garage meets the required 10'
side and street setbacks, and is side loading, with a new
driveway area within the property containing adequate backup area
to allow traffic to enter the street moving forward.
Also, the other significant increase in hardcover is the
patio surrounding the pool. The pool itself is 640 square feet,
with patio surrounding it amouit:ng to 512 square feet. These
patios are adjacent to the existinq wood deck.
Regarding lot coverage, existing lot coverage is within the
15t limit adopted in 1989. Based on the recently adopted lot
coverage ordinance amendment that includes pools and their
associated patios as lot coverage, certainly this pool and its
patio are lot coverage. However, staff would question whether
the wood decks, none of which extend to a he:ght of 6', are to be
considered within lot coverage for this property. Tf not, the
total lot coverage is 14.8t.
Zoning File #1520
April 11, 1990
Page 3 of 3
Staff Recosssendation -
The proposed new garage and driveway would appear to be
positive additions to the property, and result in removal of a
non -conforming garage. Staff would recommend approval of that
new garage and driveway.
Regarding the pool, Planning Commission should determine
whether the proposed pool and any proposed fence around it will
have a significant effect in reducing lake views currently
enjoyed by neighboring properties. If not, an average lakeshore
setback variance may be justified.
The hardcover associated with the proposed pool patio is
approximately 2.8%. Planning Commission may wish to consider
whether removal of certain items of hardcover in the 0-75' zone
might help justify granting the proposed hardcover increase. The
only other obvious removals would be further minimalizatioi. of
new sidewalks, or reducing the size of the existing wood deck or
proposed pool patio areas.
Finally, Planning Commission should determine based on the
newly revised lot coverage ordinance, whether the existing wood
deck should be counted ur-ier the lot coverage criteria, If so,
you should determine whether there is justification for a
variance to allow 17.5%. If the deck sho:ildn't be counted, then
lot coverage will be 14.8% and a variance is not required.
Summary of Issues to Address -
1. Hardcover:
0-751: remain at 4.4%, or require a decrease?
75-2501: allow existing 22.9% to increase to 31%?
2. Average Lakeshore setback encroachment of 55'.
3. Lot coverage interpretation: if required, allow
variance for increase to 17.5%?
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38 20-117-23 34 0008
• PROP ADOR 03129 CASCO CIR
01*4ER NAME P M DOUGALL ETAL
TAXPAYER P M DOUCALL
NAME/ADDR 730 2ND AVE S SUITE 515
• MPLS HN SS402
• 36 20-117-23 43 0024
PROP ADOR 03185 CASCO CIR
ONNER NAME WILLIAM S MILLS ETAL
TAXPAYER WILLIAM S MILLS
• NAIIE/ADDR 1070 W WAYZATA BLVD
WAYZATA MN 55391
• 38 20-117-23 43 0027
PROP ADDR 0315', CASCO CIR
OFNER NAME N A T LUUDSTROM
• TAXPAYER NAYNE A THERESA LLNDSTROM
NAPE/ADDR 3155 CASCO CIR
WAYZATA MN 55391
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38 20-117-23 43 0030
PROP ADDR 03133 CASCO CIR
• 0" R NAME DENNIS A LAURA SULLIVAN
TAXPAYER DENNIS A LAURA SULLIVAN
NAPE/ADDR 3133 CA:;CO CIRCLE DRIVE
WAYZATA -IN 55391
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HENNEPIN COUNTY PROPERTY INFORMATION SYSTEM
PROPERTY OWNERS LIST
30 20-117-73 43 0022
03205 CASCO CIR
CONISTON ESTATES INC
COJISTON ESTATES INC
7 BROAD ST
CHARLESTON SC 29401
38 20-117-23 43 OU25
03185 CASCO CIR
WILLIAM S MILLS ETAL
WILLIAM S MILLS
1070 W WAYZATA BLVD
WAYZATA FIN 55391
38 20-117-23 43 0028
O�145 CASCO CIR
MICHAEL F A MARY C BUTLER
MICHAEL F BUTLER
3145 CASCO CIRCLE
WAYZATA MN 55391
REPORT NO. P14SS401
PAGE 7
38 20-117-23 43 0023
03105 CASCO CIR
ROBERT M A JUDITH G BOYLAN
ROBERT M BOYLAN
3105 CASCO CIRCLE
WAYZATA FN SS391
38 20-117-23 43 0026
03165 CASCO CIR
G K A 0 M CARLSON
GERALD K A DIANE M CARLSON
3165 CASCO CIRCLE
IIAVZATA MN 55391
38 20-117-23 43 0029
03135 CASCO CIR
ROLAND C AMIINDSON
ROLAND C AHUNDSCN
GOVERNMENT CENTER C-657
MPLS MN 5548i
38 20-117-23 43 0031
00038 ADDRESS UNASSIGNED
THE CASCO CO
THE CASCO COMPANY TOTAL BATCH 003 00011
ROBERT 0 MACNIE
3135 CASCO CIR
WAYZATA FIN 55391
I CERTIFY THAT THE FACTS REPRESENTED Ake AN ACCURATE AND TRUE
REPRESENTATION OF INFORMATION AS IT APPEAR:, THIS DATE ON THE RFCORDS
OF THE HENIEPIN COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PROPERTY IA,FiTT(r!„ TO THE BEST
OF MY KNOWLtuGE AND BELIEF.
DATE C [Y �BY
MINUTES OF APRIL 16, 1990 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
ZONING FILE #1518-BIG ISLAND CONTINUED
Mr. Alan Wisdorf, a member of the Board of Governors, was
present.
Mabusth referred to her 4/12/90 memo regarding information
and staff's concerns regarding this application.
Mr. Wisdorf explained that the cabins will not be accessible
to the handicapped. The plan is to :•onstruct the basic cabins at
this point and add the water and kitchen facilities at a later
time.
There were no comments from the � —ic regarding this matter
and the public hearing was closed.
It was moved by Cohen, seconded by Moos, to recommend
approval of the conditional use permit for expansion of the
overnight camping use, allowing 5 cabins to be included in the
overnight tent camping area based on site plan included as
Exhibit "J". Approval is also recommended for the variance
allowing pier foundations instead of standard block foundations.
Approval is based on conditions 1 through 10 of staff's memo
dated 4/12/90. Kelley asked if the applicants have met all
requirements set forth in previous resolutions. Mabusth replied
that they have. Motion, Ayes-5, Nays-0, Motion passed.
#1520 GERRY 8 DIANE CARLSON
3165 CASCO CIRCLE
VARIANCES
PUBLIC HEARING 10:03 P.M. TO 10:12 P.M.
The Affidavit of Publication and Certificate of Mailing were
duly noted.
Gaffron reviewed the information and issues involved with
this application.
Kelley asked if the hardcover calculations included only the
area around the pool, not the water surface.
Gaffron stated that is correct.
It was the consensus of the Planning Commission that an
increase of 6% hardcover in the 75-250' setback area is not
acceptable.
Kelley stated that the Planning Commission has consistently
denied requests to encroach beyond the average lakeshore setback
line.
Hanson noted that in this case, the encroachment occurs with
a grade level structure.
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ZONING FILE 11520-GERRY CARLSON CONTINUED
Cohen agreed that the average lakeshore setback was not a
concern.
Mr. Jeffrey Anderson, Architect, explained that the increase
in the 75-250' hardcover occurs mainly because of the garage and
driveway. He said, "We feel we have improved the situation. We
added bituminous, the garage is virtually the same size. By
eliminating the need to back onto Casco Circle, we have improved
the safety factors. However, we had to increase the hardcover in
order to do that."
Kelley agreed that the safety conditions would improve.
Kelley stated that he would approve the new garage provided that
hardcover is maintained at 25%. is311ey stated that this is an
intensification of the property.
There were no comments from the public regarding this matter
and the public hearing was closed.
Hanson asked the Carlsons if they would prefer to have this
matter tabled to allow them to revise their plan.
Ms. Carlson stated that she would prefer to proceed to
Council.
Gaffron noted that should the Carlsons proceed only with the
proposal for the garage and driveway, they will still exceed 25%
hardcover. He asked the Planning Commission for direction.
Kelley said if the old garage is torn down, the new garage
must conform to the standards. Kelley suggested constructing a
two -car garage rather than a three -car garage.
Mr. Carlson stated that he had received a letter from the
City at the time they obtained the permit for the addition. He
said that the letter offered the opinion that a request for a
three -car garage and 27% - 28% hardcover would appear to be
reasonable.
Gaffron stated that the City would not have made such
statements without a disclaimer.
Mr. Carlson said that there were full disclaimers, but that
was his interpretation. He asked if the Planning Commission
would consider the three -car uarage if they withdrew the request
for the pool.
Kelley reiterated his position hat hardcover not exceed
25%.
It was moved by Cohen, seconded by Kelley, to recommend
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MINUTES OF APRIL 16, 1990 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
ZONING FILE 11520-GERRY CARLSON CONTINUED
denial of the variances requested in Application 01520. Motion,
Ayes-4, Nay-0, Hanson abstained. (Cohen departed at this point)
SKETCH PLAN REVIEW
#1519 FULLERTON PROPERTIES
WILLOW DRIVE AND COUNTY ROAD 6
Mr. Joe Franks was present for this review, as was Mark
Gronberg, Surveyor.
Mr. Franks stated that it was not appropriate for staff to
request that they provide a loop road to the north as well as an
extension of the private road to the south. He said that the
County preferred that there be no access from County Road 6. Mr.
Franks suggested that the road to the south could be looped by
including the southern property at the time it is subdivided.
Kelley stated that if a loop road were constructed to County
Road 6, the City would probably, at some point, maintain it.
Kelley asked Franks how that would affect the homeowners
association.
Franks replied that the homeowners could vote to disband the
association.
Hanson asked if the private road would be constructed to
City standards.
Franks replied that it would be constructed to City
standards.
Kelley stated that due to the increasing traffic and speed
of traffic on County Road 6, he would prefer to have the loop
road to the south.
Franks noted that the existing out -buildings located on the
lot with the original homestead will be removed. The condition
of the principal structure is being reviewed to determine whether
it can be updated to conform with the homes that will be
constructed in this subdivision.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF MARCH 19, 1990
It was muveJ by Hanson, seconded by Kelley, to approve the
Minutes of the March 19, 1990 Planning Commission Meeting.
Motion, Ayes-4, Nays-0, Motion passed.
PLANNING COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVE
It was agreed that Sarah Moos would attenu the May 14, 1990
Council Meeting.
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ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Hanson, seconded by
meeting. Motion, Ayes-4, Nays-0, Motion
adjourned at 10:35 p.m.
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Johnson, to adjourn the
passed. The meeting
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ZONING FILE 00. 1520
CITr OF ORONO NOTICE OF PLANNIIG COMMISSION ACTION
P.O. Box 66
Crystal Bay, MN 55323 473-7357 Date of Notices 4/20/90
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TO: Gerry i Diane Carlson COPIES TOs Jeffrey Anderson, Architect
6935 Mark Terrace Circle 4624 Highland Road
Edina, MN 55435 Minnetonka, MN 55345
TrPE OF APPLICATION: Variance
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DATE OF MEETIIGs 4/16/90 VOTE: 4 For Q Against 1 Abstain
Planning Comission recomew0s the followings
Denial for reasons noted below
NOTES AND SPECIAL CONDITIONS:
Recommended denial of the hardcover variance based on no acceptable
hardship being shown. Various Planning Commissioners suggested that they
generally felt the garage/driveay proposal was appropriate if hardcover
could be worked out. There was varied reaction to the actual impact on
views if the pool is constructed with a fence around it. However, the
denial recommendation also encompasses the average setback issue.
Applicant's next scheduled meeting is confirmed as:
City Council Monday, May 14, 1990; meeting starts at 7:00 p.m.
If you desire certified copies of the official Planning Commission
minutes, they are available from the City Recorder after review and
approval by the Planning Commission.
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Tot Mayor Grabek i Orono Council Members
City Administrator Bernhardson
crow Michael P. Gaffron, Asst Planning & Zoning Administrator
Date: May 10, 1990
Subjects #1520 Jerry i Diane Carlson, 3165 Casco Circle -
Variance
Zoning District - LR-lC, Single family lakeshore residential,
1/2 acre
Application - Request for hardcover, average setback, and lot
coverage variances
List of Sshibits
Exhibit A - Planning Commission Action Notice 4/20/90
Exhibit B - Planning Commission Minutes 4/16/90
Exhibit C - Staff Review of 75-250' Hardcover Request Absent
Pool
Exhibit D - Memo and Exhibits of 4/11/90
Discussion -
The applicants are requesting a number of variances to construct
a pool and new detached garage on the property. The existing
house is nearing completion of a remodeling and addition project,
which was specifically approved on the basis that such work met
all setback and hardcover requirements absent the future
comtemplated garage replacement and pool addition. The
applicants proceeded with the full knowledge that they would need
variances to construct a pool or to replace the garage in a
conforming manner.
Required variances:
Pool
- 75-250' hardcover increase of 512 s.f. or 2.70
Average lakeshore setback encroachment of SS'
Lot coverage variance (17.51 vs. a l lowed 151) if Council
determines that existing wood deck is part of the "pool -
associated" patio area
Garage
- Hardcover increase of 163 s.f. structure size and 1089
s.f. in driveway area, total inq 1252 s.f. or 6.8% increase.
Concurrent sidewalk revisions and removals would reduce this
to a net 6.3% increase.
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May 10, 1990
Zoning File #1520
Existing 75-250' hardcover: 22.9•
Total proposed 75-250' hardcover: 31.9%
Total proposed 75-250' hardcover
omitting pool : 29.2%
Plaaaing Cas fission Recce endations -
At their April 16th meeting, Planning Commission reviewed this
request and voted 4-0-1 to recommend denial of the requested
variances. Please review the minutes of the April 16th meetinq.
Planning Commission generally indicated they would not favor the
proposed average setback encroachment for the pool, and did not
feel the hardcover variances were justified by any significant
hardship.
During their review, Planning Commission was advised by staff
that in order to replace the existing garage with a slightly
larger garage in a fully conforming location, some hardcover
variance would be needed. In order to accomplish the applicants
garage plan as proposed with a safe, side -loading driveway and
parking apron, 75-250' hardcover will have to increase to 29.21.
In every case where an applicant attempts to do a "staged"
redevelopment of a property, the City is often placed in a tough
position if the later stages of redevelopment requiring variances
have not been resolved prior to the initial redevelopment.
However, staff cannot deny a permit for stages of work which meet
all code requirements, when the permit request is not for the
entire comprehensive project.
In the Carlson's case, staff met with them early on and indicated
where variances would be necessary, and suggested that they come
in with a comprehensive site plan and apply for variances early
to avoid future disappointments if variances were denied.
Replacement of the existing garage, which opens directly to the
street and which is approximately 1' from the lot line, with a
garage that meets the required 10' side and street setbacks and
which opens to the side, can be considered as a safety
improvement for Casco Circle, and decreases the "tunnel" effect
of garages right next to the road. Council Rhould weiqh these
benefits against the requested hardcover increases to accomodate
the garage.
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May 10, 1990
Zoning File 11520
If the pool ultimately is not approved, applicants would have to
decrease the remaining proposed hardcover by 769 s.f. in order to
meet the 250/75-250' limit. The 30 x 34' driveway Is probably
close to the bare minimum necessary to be functional, hence
options would be to reduce to a two -stall garage and narrower
driveway apron, and eliminate portions of sidewalks or the
existing de-k. Council might consider whether removal of some of
the hardcover items in the 0-75' zone would help justify a
variance in the 75-250' ze-ne.
dtaff 1t�saedation
Staff would generally support the Planning Commission
recommendation for denial of the average lakeshore setback
variance for the pool. while the intent of the applicants is to
not construct a high fence that visually encroaches on views
enjoyed by neighboring property owners, no one crn guarantee
whether some future property owner's insurance company will
require a 5-6' high fence around the pool. No construction plans
or elevation views of the pool have been filed, hence the extent
of retaining walls or grading needed is unknown.
Regarding the hardcover variances to accomodate the garage and
driveway, perhaps Council can find justification or acceptable
trade-offs to allow some degree of variance above the 250 limit,
given that a poorly located garage will be repliced with one in a
conforming location. If not, applicant options would be to
remove various decks, sidewalks and portions of proposed driveway
in order to meet the hardcover limit, their other option neing to
live with the existing garage as is.
Staff will draft a resolution for your next meeting based on
Council's conceptual direction in this matter.
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MINUTES OF ORONO COUNCIL MEETING HELD MAY 14, 1990
#1518 BIG ISLAND VETERANS CAMP
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
RESOLUTION #2802
Mr. Larry Sharpe, a representative of the Board of
Governors, was present.
Bernhardson reviewed the information pertaining to this
application.
It was moved by Mayor Grabek, seconded by Councilmember
Peterson, to adopt Resolution #2802, approving the Conditional
Use Permit to construct 5 cabins. Motion, Ayes-5, Nays-0.
Motion passed.
#1520 GARY CARLSON
3165 CASCO CIRCLE
VARIANCE*
This item was added to the consent agenda. The applicants
verbally requested that this matter be withdrawn. Staff is
awaiting written confirmation of that request and asked that to
have the matter tabled.
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Peterson, to table this item. Motion, Ayes-
5, Nays-0, Motion passed.
i1428 OTTEN BROTHERS
2350 WAYZATA BOULEVARD
VACATION OF PINE RIDGE LANE -RESOLUTION t2803*
NEG(.TIATION RESULTS*
Tt was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Peterson, to adopt Resolution #2803, approving the
vacation of Pine Ridge Lane and to accept the information
presented regarding the negotiation results w_th Mr. Walvatne.
Motion, Ayes-5, Nays-0, Motion passed.
i1411 SUSSEX SQUARE DEVELOPMENT
ROAD NAME APPROVAL*
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten, seconded by
Councilmember Peterson, to approve the name "Sussex" as a road
name for the Fox Bend plat. Motion, Ayes-5, Nays-0, Motion
passed.
CITY ENGINEER'S REPORT:
PAY REQUEST 13 - TEST DRILLING WELL =3*
It was moved by Councilmember Goetten. seconded by
Councilmember Peterson, to approve Pay Request i3 for Keys well
Drilling Company in the amount of $10,260.00. Motion, Ayes-5,
Nays-0, Motion passed.
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APPLICATION 190. 1520
CIT! or
P.O. Box 66 NOTICE OF COUNCIL ACTION
Crystal Bay, MN 55323
473-7357 Date of Notice: 5/21/90
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TO: Jerry i Diane Carlson COPIES: Jeffrey Anderson, Architect
6)35 Mark Terrace Circle 4624 Highland Road
Edna, MN 55435 Minnetonka, MN 55345
TWE OF APPLICATION: Variance
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0ATE OF MEETING: May 14, 1990 VOTE: 5 For 0 Against
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COUNCIL ACTION - MOTION:
Tabled at applicant's request. Please advise in writing if you wish to
formally withdraw this application. Note that the building permit
application for your revised garage proposal has been forwarded to the
Building Department for Plan Review, and you will be advised when the permit
is ready to be picked up.
If you desire certified copies of the official Council minutes, they are
available from the City Recorder or City Clerk after review ane approval by
the City Council.
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