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Zoning Variance Application
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Directions to pp cant:
a. Fill out thi£ form in duplicate by typing or printing
in ink. If the spaces provided are insufficient, use
additional sheets, keying information to the proper
item number.
b. Attach all supplementary material by paper clip.
C. File duplicate applications and filing fee C3 )
with Zoning Administrator.
Name of Owner: ast First I•Iiddle
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Address of Owner: (No. afid street) (City and ZoneTPhone
ttrree� Address of Property Invo ve
Legal Description oroperty-Involved:
5. Does this property border on or lie partially within an
adjoining municipality?
Present Use: 7. ProposedUse: U. Date Property
Acquired.
Present 'Zoning District:
0. Variance is requested from ciZ:.
following sections of the 7onin
Ordinance: -ry_;?o/ t y 10 1-z
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11. What are the requirements of the ordinance sections listed l._
Item 10?
T2. State exactly what is intended Eo be done on or with We-
' -property which does not conform with existing regulations:
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13. Has an application for zoning variance on the same properL,
been acted upon by the Village Council within the last six
months? If so, state the date of the Village Council's acti)
NOTE: The law requires that the conditions set forth in the
following three items 14, 15, and 16 MUST be established
befo,oe a variance can be granted. Explain in detail after
each statement wherein your case conforms to the requiremen"r
ifficulties of Hardj=to Owner. Strict application of
the provisions of the Zoning Ordinance would result in
peculiar and practical difficulties or exceptional or undue
hardship upon the owner of the lot in developing or using,
such lot in a manner customary and legally permissible
within the zoning district in which said lot is located.
Granting of the variance is necessary for the preservation
and enjoyment of a substantial property right of the appli.-
-cant and to alleviate demonstrable hardship or difficult;
and will not merely serve as a convenience to the applicant.
Explain in detail.
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15. ce ona Conditions of theLot: There are special condi-
tions narrowness, shallowness or shape of a lot, exceptional
topographic or water conditions or other extraordinary and
exceptional conditions of such lot) applying to the structures
or land in question that are peculiar to the property involved
or immediately adjoining property and do not apply generally
to other land or structures in the district in which said land
is located. Explain in detail.
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ti"i"ect on Neighborhood and Comprehensive Plan: Granting the
var ante will not impair an adequate supply of light and air
to adjacent property, unreasonably increase the congextibn
in the public streets, increase the danger of fire, endanger
the public safety, unreasonably diminish or impair established
property values in the surroundinG area, or in any other way
impair health, safety, comfort, morals, or in any other respect
be contrary to the intent of the Zoning Ordinance and any
applicable comprehensive plan. Explain in detail.
NO The following material must e attached to this application.
17. A map or plat showing the property affected and all lands
within 150 feet of the boundaries of the property affected
by proposed change. (�copies)
18. An abstractors certified property certificate listing the
names and addresses of the owners of the land within 150 feet
of the boundaries of the affected property as those names
appear on the records of the County Auditor of Hennepin
County.
19 Acknowled ement and S nature: The undersigned hereby repre-
sents upon all of the penalties of law, for the plzrposo of
inducing the Village of Orono to take the action herein
requested, that all statements herein are true and that all
work herein mentioned will be done in accordance with the
ordinances of the Village of Orono and the laws of the State
of Minnesota.
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ORONO Ur;'%:'1 L T:1.TING., February ', I , L'►�:i
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The proposed ordinance was presented to the CounciI.
Butler exnressed that she feels the name Ihurtan 11hjit s
should not he .changed to Yuman Services. Aftt r con-
siderable discussion, Paurus suggested tahl inl, cif' the
proposed modification and present inh the ord i mince to
the Ilmian Right% Commission for their inptrt.
Butler moved, Paurus seconded, appointment and re-
appointment of the following to be members of the Orono
IIuman' !tights Commission. mail Breckwald, stay Johnson,
donna Carlton, Doris Schroeder, Bernice Anderson, I;rtty
Phelan, Alati a Zunt, Rarhara Wosse, Mary Vogel, Jul to
Draar, %aridy Welsh, and a Mound school student. `•Irlr ion,
Ayes (3), Nav (A). ,Abstain (1), Welsh.
Brad Van Nest stated that the I'lannine Commission tJanned
to discuss the following items: (a) Licensing of huildinp
contractors in Orono; (h) requirement to provide a cer-
tified survey when appiving for variance.
Welsh moved. Butler seconded, that the variance rrr,trest
he referred to the Planninp Commission.
Which reported that the 4arina License Committee luis
held two meetings with five different marines anti with
the North Shore Union 76. Gavle's Marina and NorthShore Drive marina have yet to be sivken to.
Van rest pointed out that Public access directly south
of Paul's Landing creates a hazard with people hacking
trailers onto Highway 15. Action should he taken to
close this access to launching. Also directly sotrth
of Stubbs Hay marina is another problem launching area.
Massengale suggested Planning Commission and Park Com-
mission make a recommendation.
4rs. Uav presented Counc i 1 with a request for a Ixr i 1.1 i n},,
permit to add on to their existing home, which is a
legal non -conforming use in an industrial zone. Cotrnc i 1
directed City Attorney to investigate to see if there
is a poss,ble legal wav to grant this request. '1ct ion
was tabled until next Council meeting.
Discussion followed on granting a conditional use to►
Stulbs Way Marina to have a "soup and sandwichr,;" food
service rat to include full course meals. Ntasseneale
recommended that a resolution he drawn up by staff anal
presented at the February 2S Counc i I meeting rr>,I real rnl!
the cond i t ions tinder which the conditional use vx-rm i t
was granted, with findings stating why conditions it-
tw.hed are included in the conditional use.
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TO: Planning Commission
FROM: flank Ruh ish
DATE: February 13, 1975
RE: Martin Podany request for variance from 75' lakeshore setback
requirement and permitted 0S hardcover from 0 - 75' lakeshore
setback requirement and 25% hardcover from 75' to 2S0' lakeshore
setback. Property located at 3285 Carman Road
Orono's zoning ordinance restricts any structure or hardcover from 0 to 7S
feet from any lakeshore and permits 25a hardcover (structure, blacktop,
etc.) from 7S' to 250' from any lakeshore.
The contractor informed ^ne the NxIany home consists of only two bedT-oms
which will not facilitate the family. They are, therefore, propos"
an addition of four bedrooms extending toward the lake.
This proposed addition would extend toward the lakeshore to within 51'
of the shoreline and exceed the permitted hardcover in both setbacks.
(0 - 75' and 7S' to 250')
I have suggested to the contractor, Keith Anderson, it might he helpful
if he submit statements from the adjoining neighbors of the property.
We haven't received any as yet.
2-18-7S Mr. Podany and Mr. Keith Anderson presented the request. Van 'Vest dis-
qualified himself on decision because of conflict of interest. Ile did,,
however, interject that as a neighbor he had no objection to the proposal.
Planning Commission recommended denial on the grounds that the 75' lakeshore
setback requirement is a State and local regulation and the maximum per-
mitted hardcove- regulations along lakeshore was agreed upon and adopted
in our current zoning code and action contrary to these ordinances would
only tend to set precedent for other requests where land hardships are
not involved.
Applicant was informed that request would go before Council 2-25-75 for final
action and this decision would not preclude any other proposal he may wish
to present.
Letter sent to Podany regarding above 2-20-7S. 4 � L4 ,l•IL,.0-Z.-4 ..
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TO: Planning Commission
FROM: Hank Muh ich
DATE: February 13, 1975
RE: Martin Podany request for variance from 75' lakeshore setback
requirement and permitted 0i hardcover from 0 - 7S' lakeshore
setback requirement and 25% hardcover from 75' to 2SO' lakeshore
setback. Property located at 3285 Carman Road
Orono's zoning ordinance restricts any structure or hardcover from 0 to 75
feet from any lakeshore and permits 25S hardcover (structure, blazktop,
etc.) from 7S' to 2S0' from any lakeshore.
The contractor informed me the Podany home consists of only two bedrooms
which will not facilitate the family. They are, therefore, proposing
an addition of four bedrooms extending toward the lake.
This proposed addition would extend toward the lakeshore to within 52'
of the shoreline and exceed the permitted hardcover in both setbacks.
(0 - 7S' and 75' to 250')
I have suggested to the contractor, Keith Anderson, it might he helpful
if he submit statements from the adjoining neighbors of the property.
We haven't received any as yet.
PLANNING C(MI SS I ON M I NM S OF FEBRUARY 18, 19 7 5
Van Nest moved, Woolley seconded, recommendation to
Council to confer with the Park Commission for recommenda-
tion on closing'access points south of Paul's Landing and
south of Stubbs Bay Marina presently being used as public
launching stations. The inadequacy of these access lanes
result in a traffic and parking hazard and create an im-
position on both marinas, and a possible Village liability
problem. Motion, Ayes (10), Nay (0).
Curtis moved, Ilannah seconded, recommendation to Council
to adopt provisions for licensing of building contractors
to provide sane protection to the residents of the com-
munity as to quality and conformity of construction and
procedures. Motion, Ayes (8), Nav (2), Kallestad, Pesek.
Village attorney is in the process of investigating the
history and reporting on present status of property.
Van Nest disqualified himself on decision because of
the conflict of interest. Ile did, however, interject
that as a neighbor he had no objection to the proposal.
Curtis moved, Kallest•al seconded, recommendation to
Council to deny request on the grounds t%at the 75' Lake-
shore setback requiresient is a state and local regulation
and the maximum permitted hardcover regulations. along
lakeshore was agreed upon and adopted in our current
zoning code and action contrary to these ordinances
would only tend to set precedent for other requests
where land hardships are not involved. Potion, Ayes
(5), Nay (2), Woolley, Hannah, Abstain (2), Pesek,
Mt Donald.
,'Applicant was informed that request would go before
Council February 25, 1975 for final action and this
decision would not preclude any other proposal he might
wish to present.
Planning Commission decided •Ew,,, would schedule meetings
for the first and third Mbn of each month at 7:0u p.m.
The first hour of each sessi%,n would he devoted to a
work session.
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3285 Carman Rd.
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flake moved, Curtis seconded adjournment at 10:30 p.m. 11fUi�.l..�'►4:YT
Village of Orono
P.O. BOX 66, CRYSTAL BAY, MINN. 55323 • MUNICIPAL OMCES PHONE 413-4M
On the North Shore Lake Minnetonka
February 20, 1975
Mr. Martin Podany
3285 Carman Rd.
Excelsior, Mn. 55331
Dear Mr. Podany:
Your application for a variance an lakeshore setback
and hardcover was up for consideration at the Planning
Comission meeting of February 18, 1975. Because they
feel there is no land hardship here, the Planning Com-
mission is recanoending denial of the request to Council.
Your request will be up for a decision at the Council
meeting scheduled for 7:30 p.m., February 25, 197S.
If you have any questions please feel free to call.
Sincerely yours,
7 ,, ,
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Henry F . N1uh ich
Zoning & Building Administrator
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,RONO COUNCIL MEETING OF FEBRUARY 25, 1975 Page 2
Van Nest appeared requesting an amended ordinance PROPOSED ORDINANCE
on wetlands, replatting, and survey requirements AMENDMENT
with some variances. The attorney will prepare
an ordinance tp be presented to the Planning
Commission for their March 17, 1975 meeting.
Butler moved, Massengale seconded, that the VARIANCE - COMBINATION
request for Roger Kraines, 4455 Forest Lake 4455 Forest Lake Landing
Landing, for a variance from lot size and
combination be referred to the Planning
Commission. Motion, Ayes (4) - Nays (0).
Massengale moved, Butler seconded, that RESOLUTION #573
Resolution #573, A Resolution Adopting The Bike -Hike Plan
Official Bikeways -Walkways System Map For
The City Of Orono, be adopted. Motion,
Ayes (3) - Nays (0).
Massengale moved, Butler seconded, that RESOLUTION #574
Resolution #574, A Resolution Directing Staff FAU - Bike/Hike Funds
To Apply For Capital Federal -Aid Urban Program
Funds For Bikeways -Walkways System For City Of
Orono, be adopted. Motion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0).
Butler moved, !Massengale seconded, that RESOLUTION 1575
Resolution #575, A Resolution Granting Stubb's Stubb's Bay Marina
Bay Marina A Conditional Use Permit To Sell
Soup And Sandwiches, be adopted. Motion,
Ayes (4) - Nays (0) .
Martin Podany, 3285 Carman Road, request for VARIANCE
a variance from 75' lakeshorA setback, after a. 3285 Carmar. Road
lengthy discussion, was tablf!d until the meeting
of 11arch 11, 1975.
Stan Straley, 3286 North Shore Drive, request MARINI► 6 DOCK LICENSE
for a marina and multiple dock license, was 3286 North Shore Drive
tabled until the meeting of March 11, 1975.
Louis B. Oberhauser appeared concerning a H);RRICK CIRCLE
request for a residential development for the Long Lake Road 6 Western
Herrick Circle property north of the Wayzata Railroad
Country Club. The City Council requested fir.
Oberhauser to make a formal request to be
presented to the Planning Commission for review.
Arthur Ahlm request for a residence at 1331 North BUILDING PERMIT
Arm Drive was tabled. 1331 North Arm Drive
Village of Orono
P.O. BOX 66, CRYSTAL BAY, MINN. 55323 • MUNICIPAL OFFICES PHONE 473-4266
On the North Shore Lake Minnetonka
February 28, 1975
Mr, Martin Podany
3285 Carman load
Excelsior, %. 55331
Dear Mr. Podany:
Your request for variance has been rescheduled for the Council
meeting of March 11, 197S at 7:30 p.m.
Please submit letter and data requested no later than March S,
197S.
If you have any questions, please feel free to call.
Sincerely yours,
henry F. 'tuhich
Building & Zoning Administrator
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TO: Dick Benson
FR(IM: (lank 'Ui ich
UA 11:: February 28, 197;
d': '•Urtin Podany - 3285 Carmin Road
Request for variance fror hardcover lakeshore setbacks regrrirement
The granting of this variance would only be a step in the direction of
defeating the rciin concept of our Comprehensive Guide Plan and current
zoning ordinance and nigh unto three years of stuciv toward nreservinp
Lake Minnetonka shall have been futile.
Granting of this variance could only encourage more similar requests
which would compound our current lakeshore problems. (once again we would
find ourselves in a situation similar to the one we are presently under-
going in our attempt to correct conditions resulting from failure to
regulate marina development.
I don't feel a hardship to the land exists to the extent that the proposed
expansion could not in some wav he designed to extend toward the street
thus eliminating possible hardcover nin-off nmhlems.
At the Council meeting of February 25, 1975, a representative of the
applicant stated the existing house consists of approximately 1800 sq. ft.
of living area on the main floor plus a fairly large finished area in
the walkout basement. 'Mis would appear to he quite an extensive dwelling
on a lot which would he classified substandard by our present zoning code.
They contended thev would be willing to design a drainage system which
would equal the present natural drainage conditions. I would like to insert,
however, that a mechanical or man-made drainage system will never operate
better than the day of installation and if not maintained pronerl� could
result in more problems.
"Mention was also made ticit the parents of the Podany family now occupvinv,
the dwelling would sometime share residence. 11iis may not he a problem
at present, but should this variance he granted, we should exercise some
control over any possible future problems which might arise from double
occupancy on an income or rental property basis.
when the application was made, I sukgested a written statement from the
adjoining neighbors be submitted. We haven't received anything to datn.
TWENTY-FOUR HUNDRED
FIRST NATIONAL SANK BUILDING
MINNEAPOLIS
March 6, 1975
Orono Village Council
Orono Village Hall
P. O. Box 66
Crystal Bay, Minnesota 55323
Re: Podany Variance
Gentlemen:
This letter is to make an official record of my objection
to the granting of any variance from ti-ie requiremmts of the Village
Ordinance with respect to any proposed construction on Lot 7 of
Block 1 of Carman Cove Addition. I am the owner, with Mrs. Halladay,
of Lot 6, which abuts Lot 7 on the east. The proposed addition
would materially change the character of the relationship between
dwellings on the two lots, increase the burden on Lot 6 in respect
to ground water runoff, interfere with access to light and air on
the west of Lot 6 and otherwise reduce the ability of the owners of
Lot 6 to enjoy the rural environment ;Lich has so much to do with the
aesthetics of living in Orono as well as with the market and taxable
value of the ply.
We had advised the owner of Lot 7 '-o the above effect on
Sunday, February 23, 1975, but agreed to consider the matter further
in the light of their representations if they would give us copies
of the detailed plans and specifications for their proposed con-
struction. At the tine of this writing, this information has not
been given for further inspection, although the writer has examined
a set of plans and elevations of the proposed construction and has
measured the same upon the ground as well as had the proposed con-
striction considered by a competent real estate appraiser and a
landscape architect.
A recent illness requires the writer and Mrs. Hallalday to
the away at the date of the next hearing on this matter, but we ha
arranged to be represented by Mr. Frank Voigt, who has our full
authority to speak on our behalf at that time and otherwise.
Cordially,
Henry laday
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March 7, 1'M
Mr. Frank H . Voig t
Dorsey Marquart W1ndhorst West & Halladay
2400 First National Bank Building?
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55402
Dear Mr.-Voigt:
Pursuant to your request, I have made an inspection of the Henry
Halladay residence at Caymans Bay, Lake Minnetonka, to determine
whether, i.ii my opinion, the value of Mr. lroperty would
be affected by the addition w`iich his neighbor,!ir. hodany, proposes
to construct on the Gast side of his house, as per the drawing
attached to this letter on which the said addition is outlined in
red.
I have been familiar with this property for some time, having sold
it to Mr. Halladay several years ago.
I find that the proposed addition would huvf: two fairly major effects
and two less serious ones. The two major effects are:
1) As you approach `he Halladay house from Car-ian Road, this
addition is goinf- ' o) crate a very crowded effect with very
little visual op- )etween the two house. The proposed
addition provides . virtually winiowless wall on the east
side except for one small window back tow.arl the southeast
corner. The sight angles are .,uch that someone coming up
the Halladays' driveway or entrrarice walkway will not see any
lake or open green area, but will be looking almost entirely
at this blank wall. This is an arF-•t of $1(K),000 (plus or
minus) houses, .and this kind of a crowded look definitely has
a detrimental effect on the value of hou:as in this price
category.
2) The second major effect is tl,:tt the window:, on the lower level
of Mr. Hallad ty's house on the west :.1de off his house, which
now see sky and trees and grass, will be lr.)c;'.cing up against
this blank wall in -stead,, and a i okal deal (,f Light and air
will be cut off from the den and the lower level bedroom on
the west side of the Halladay house. "4)me lig.,t W-ki air will
also be taken away from the two bedrooms e)zl the uppar level
of Mr. Hallad.ay's house which are also on the west side of
the house. But the effect :,n the lower level rc;,,ms is the
most serious and will make them a g soil deal darker and will
give them, a rather unplertsrult blank wall to look at in place
of oper, sky and trees which thsty now 34- te.
Telephone: (Afea Code 612) 545.5681
Mr. Voigt March 7, 197'
The two less serious effects are thr 1:ass of some degree of privacy
on the deck which projects forward from the lialladay livingroom and
dining room, and the removal of pert..,, s ten to fifteen degrees of
compass panor unic view from the west s:, ip ) ' the livingroom of the
Halladay house.
From a value standpoint I think the most damage; will be dor,A by
the crowding and the fact that angles here are such that they will
emphasizethis crowding effect and •.esult in s. much less pleasing
and esthetic situation as you approach the 11alladay house than that
now prevailing.
It is also quite obvious that the view t'rurn tne luai:r level ,jf2n and
bedroom will be very adversely affected.
The value of Mr. Ilalladliy's louse is in er.ce:;<, of $I(N),000 in tuday's
market, and in this price range buyers -ire very sensitive to hick of
privacy, and they expect reasonable space around a house in "his
category. Consequently, I would feel that the market for Mr. Halladay's
house would probably be thinned out conoiderabl;; because many buyers in
this price range :night find the situation iziaccepttable. 'Whenever you
narrow the market for a property, you Dbviuusl,y lessen its value. I
see a 12 to 15% differential in c ice a: it result.
Very truly your,
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onald K. Rippel
t.dndscape Architect/Planner
28190 Woodside Road
Shorewood, Minnesota 55331
Mr. Frank Voigt
Dorsey Marquart Windhorst West R Halladay
2400 First National Bank Building
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55402
Mr. Voigt,
Responding to your reuuest that I prepare an analysis of
a proposed variance by Podany, owner of lot 7, block
Carman's Cove, Orno, with respect to the Halladay residence
located on lot 6, block 1, Carman's Cove, Orno MN, I am
submitting the following report.
A brief of my professional education and experience is
submitted as an attachment along with exhibits A,B,C, and
D relating to my analysis.
The following observations and comments are based upon a
personal site insoection and discussion with Mr. and Mrs.
Halladay at their home; agumented with site photographs
and the plot plan prepared by Cardarelle & Assoc., dated
January 24, 1975 as submitted with -the Podany application
for a variance. As of Thursday, March 6, 1975, the City
of Orno had not received a drainage and grading plan, a
recommendation from the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District,
as required by ordinance, nor was a copy of the building
plans as previously presented to the Council available
for inspection. These documents would all have a bearing
or, a complete analysis of the situation and should be made
available for review before a final decision is reached by
the Orno City Council.
Violations of the Orno Zoning Ordinance with resvect*to
set -back, lot coverage and land alteration are heresy ack-
nowledged to be covered in other supporting documentation
and are therefore not covered in my analysis.
Utilizing exhibits A,!,C and t as reference documents 1
wish to submit the followinq observations and ccnments:
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EXHIBIT A, PLAN VIEW In addition to identifying the pos-
itions for photographs 1 thru 7, and the cross-section line
of exhibit B, it also illustrates the relationship of both
existing residences and the proposed Podany addition.
1)An apparent reduction of open space is noted, although
a certain amount of this reduction would be allowed
urder the present ordinance if the addition is limited
to the existing rear building line on the lake side.
This is also apparent in photo 7 as the addition would
411 the existing open space from the Podany home to
,ie evergreen plantings as viewed when approaching the
halladay home by car.
2)This same effect will be very noticable as you approach
the parking area of Halladay's as shown in photo 6. The
addition would close the space from the northwest
corner of the Hal laday home to the evergreen planting
significantly reducing light penetration and air cir-
culation in addition to affecting the visual quality
of the entrance area.
EXHIBIT B. SECTION LOOKIUG NORTH This cross-section is
based upon the Cardarelle plot plan and is supplemented
with on -site elevations taken with a hand level. It
begins to point out an even more serious concern.
1,The existing land form consists of a small hill slop-
ing from the Podany residence side yard down to the
Halladay home. This causes concern with respect to fut-
ure drainage from additional roof area along with
channelizing the existing drainage from the front area
of Podany's which is presently accommocated on the west
side of the hill on Podany's land.
2)This situation becomes more alarming as you observe the
proposed addition being bui 1 t on .top o6 th.ie ex.ie tang
• land 6oam resulting in even further blockage of light
from the southwest and air circulation because of the
proposed building mass.
3)Photos 4,5 and 6 illustrate from various vantage points
the existing hill and slope to the Podany home.
EXHIBIT C. Panoramic view looking from northwest thru south-
west, shown as point C on exhibit A.
1)From a 5 foot eye level a perspective projection of the
proposed addition would resu't in the building mass shown
graphically grey tones on the overlay sheet. The dark
grey horizontal area represents the shadow line of the
overhang. This building mass would obviously represent
two
continued, a considerable intrusion into the lakeshore
open space presently existing from the Podany rear
building line to the left, which is towards the lakeshore
and would be visible from al of Halladay's windows
on the west side of his home.
2)Photos lA and 1B further show this concern as they are
taken from the den/office room, lA being taken at 90'
to this window and 1B taken from a seated position at
Mr. Halladay's desk looking to the southwest. The entixe
shy area shown on the photo would be obliterated as
viewed in IA and all of the sky area in the two win
dow openings to the right in photo 1B would also be
obliterated.
3)Photo 2, taken from the lakeshore deck which leads
directly from the living and dining areas on the main
level, illuatrates by the grey tone the approximate
building mass as proposed and viewed from this pre-
sently private area, which when built did not antic-
ipate encroachment into the adjacent Podany lakeshore
setback or it would have been designed and located
in a diffe-ent manner.
In summary, from my viewpoint as a landscape architect and
iand planner, the most most serious aspect of the proposal
effecting the Halladay's living tn.ironment, is the intrusion
of a subetantiat bu<tdi'ng mass into a VC4y cn.iti.cal dAea o6
tkght and aon ci4cutation...... thi$ visual and physical
space is presently protected by a very valid lakeshore set-
back requirement, which if allowed to be varied, would
certainly adversely affect the total living environment.
This open space 6eel<ng was very important to the Halladay's
when evaluating and subsequently purchasing their home.
In my opinion this type of vested .inteteat should be
respected and protected by the governing body of Orno,
not only with respect to the Halladay's, but for the
long range benefit to all residents of Orno as their
ele,.ted representatives.
Re pectfull
Donald K. Ripper'
landscape architect/planner
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three of three
ORONO COUNCIL MEETING OF MARCH 11, 1975
Page 2
Butler moved, Searles seconded, because of
the hardship involved, to approve a temporary
permit to allow Mr. Loren Butterfield to
remove 150 yards of peat from his property
for his greenhouse operation, conditioned on
his applying to the City of Orono, Department
of Natural Resources, and Minnehaha Creek
Watershed District for any future use of this
nature. Notion, Ayes (4) - Nays (0).
The request of Martin Podany, 3285 Carman
Road, for lakeshore setback and hardcover
variance, was tabled for lack of information,
until the April 8, 1975 meeting at the request
of Mr. Podany. A neighbor, Henry Halladay,
who was prepared to object to the variance,
agreed to the continuation.
Stan Straley's request for a marina and
multi -dock at 3286 North Shore Drive,
was tabled for lack of informa�ion, until
the April 8,1975 meeting.
A status report was presented for multiple
use of structures in single family zones.
The Council instructed Village Administrator
Benson, Councilman Welsh, and Zoning Adminis-
trator Muhich to discuss the administrative
involvements with two Planning Commission
action meetings in one month and report back
to the Council at a later date.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
3925 Watertown Road
SETBACK & VARIANCE
3285 Carman Road
l
MARINA & MULTI -DOCK
3286 North Shore Drive
MULTIPLE USE STRUCTURES
TWO ACTION MEETINGS
Planning Commission
11r. Robert Bathke, 2610 Mapleridge Lane, VARIANCE
appeared before the Council without a 2610 Mapleridge Lane
formal application for appal of a proposed
location of a new home on Parcel 1505, Shorehills
Addition. The matter was referred to the Planning
Commission.
The Orono City Council issued the following
policy statement:
Lagoons that are contiguous or connected to
Lake Minnetonka or joined by dredging, shall
be classified as part of Lake Minnetonka and
shall conform to existing regulations.
Butler moved, Welsh seconded, that Resolution
#577, A Resolution Designating Axle Weight
Limits On City Streets, he adopted. tiotion,
Ayes (4) - Nays (0).
LAGOONS - LAKE MINNETONKA
RESOLUTION f577
Road Weight Limits
CITY OF ORONO
Regular Meeting of the Orono Council,
April 8, 1975
The Orono Council met on the above date
with the following members present: Mayor
Searles, Councilmen Butler and Welsh.
Councilmen Massengale and Paurus absent.
Butler moved, Welsh seconded, that the
ilinutes of the Regular Meeting of March 25,
1975, be approved as amended. Motion,
Ayes (3) - Nays (0).
The Antenna Ordinance was deferred until
the meeting of April 22, 1975.
Searles moved, Butler seconded, to adopt.
Resolution #583 forming a joint Park
Commission whose membership shall be
composed of Orono, Minnetrista, Mound,
and Spring Park as recommended and amended
by Mr. Dave Opheim, Park Commission
Chairman. Motion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0).
Butler moved, Searles seconded, to adopt
Resolution #584, A Resolution ordering
the owner of a hazardous building within
the Village to correct the hazardous condition.
Motion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0).
Mr. Dave Opheim, Park Commission Chairman,
discussed and recommended solutions to the
Paul's Landing -Smith's Bay and Stubb's Bay
lake accesses.
The Council instructed the legal department
and Mr. Opheim to submit a resolution for
Council action concerning these lake
accesses at the next Council meeting.
Searles moved, Butler seconded, to adopt
Resolution #585 extending all existing
marina licenses until May 15, 1975. Motion,
Ayes (3) - Nays (0) .
11r. Holladay, represented by Mr. Frank
Voigt, attorney, and t1r. Donald Rippel,
landscape planner, and Mr. Martin Podany,
represented by Mr. Charles Carrol, attorney,
presented material and information pertinent
to Mr. Podanys lakeshore setback and hardcover
variance application.
7: 30 P.M.
MINUTES
ANTENNA ORDINANCE
RESOLUTION #583
Joint Park Commissions
RESOLUTION #584
493 Park Avenue
LAKE ACCESSES
Paul's Landing &
Stubb's Bay
RESOLUTION #585
Marina Licenses -
flay 15, 1975
VARIANCE
3285 Carman Road
(Continued)
ORONO COUNCIL MEETING OF APRIL 8, 1975
Page 2
Since this material was not submitted before
agenda deadline, the second Monday by 4:30 P.M.
preceeding the Council meeting, the Village
Council and staff will consider all information
and documents for further review and analysis.
Welsh moved, Searles seconded, to adopt
Resolution #586 denying an application for
a marina and dock license for Mr. Stan
Staley, 3286 North Shore Drive. motion,
Ayes (3) - Nays (0).
The request for a variance for Arthur Ahlm,
1331 North Arm Drive, was deferred until the
meeting of April 22, 1975 when all information
will be complete.
The legal department discussed the status
of the Robert Bathke variance application.
More information is being brought up to date
and will not be placed on the agenda until all
information is complete for presentation.
The Roger Kraines request for a variance at
4485 Forest Lake Landing was deferred until
April 22, 1975 when all parties will L�
represented.
Welsh moved, Butler seconded, to adopt
Resolution #587, a resolution to support the
League of Municipalities proposed amendments
to the Open Meeting Law. Motion, Ayes (3) -
Nays (0).
The Village Council reviewed the golf course
operation during the past three years, comparing
net incomes and capitol expenditures. The
Village staff is initiating a golf promotion
program to generate more leagues for 1975.
Mrs. Wright, representing B 6 E Patrol, Inc.,
appeared before the Village Council to discuss
complaints concerning B 6 E's employees and
statements made by them to residents in the
area. It was agreed that. B & E would not get
involved with policy judgment or verbal encounters
that do not justifiably serve our area residents.
VARIANCE
(Continued)
RESOLUTION #586
Stan Straley Dock
VARIANCE
1331 North Arm Drive
VARIANCE
2610 Mapleridge Lane
VARIANCE
4485 Forest Lake Landing
RESOLUTION #587
Open sleeting Law
GOLF COURSE PROGRAM
B 6 E PATROL
WCOMBS-KNUTSON ASSOCIATES, INC.
CONSULTING ENGINEEPS :d LANO SURVEYORS li SITE PLANNERS
April 18, 1975
Mr. Walter R. Benson
Village Administrator
Village of Orono
P. O. Box 66
Crystal Bay, Minnesota
Subject: Martn Podany
3285 Carmen Ro:a
Dear Mr. Benson:
We have r—viewed the data you have submitted on the
subject project. In our review we have placed particular
emphi+sis to the Engineering Report submitted by Schoell
& Madson, these soil borings conducted by Twin City Testing
and data submitted by Norman K. Rippel, Landscape Architect
Planner. In reviewing this soil data submitted by Twin
City Testing a type of trench drainaqe system is suggested
for disposing of the water originating on the hard cover
area. This was Just a summary suagestion no details were
given and it wis not considered by the report submitted
by Schoell & Ma;ison. Schoell & Madson proposed the construction
of a settling pon:i with a pervious dike so that the water
would be settled in the pond, perculate through the dike
and drain into the lake. We have some uncertainty as to
what the Engineer is referring to at the "rear of the lot".
However, from his sketch itappears he is referring to
the area between the house and the lake. This being the
case the pond would be locetted between the house and the
lake.
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We concurr that water discharged into the holding
pond and perculating thru a 14 foot long pervious soil
would be of at least as good a quality as runoff from the
present lawn area. So as long as the pond would operate
efficiently no deterioration of the water reaching the
lake would occur as a result of an additional hard cover.
However, a pond of this magnitude with a 8 inch thick coarse
layer would we think be and impractable and difficult system
to maintain in satisfactory operation. It would seem to
us that to keep this pervious layer to operating efficiently
there would have to be a continually cleaning of the entrance
to the filter. This would mean *.hat it would require maintenance
to prevent the growth of any grasses, or weeds, it would
require frequent cleaning to insure no deposition of grass
clippings, leaves or other debris from building up or causing
plugging of the filter layer. It would also seem that
in order to function properly a flooding of the ponding
area is going to be required and that after a very short
period of time the bottom of the filter area would become
contaminated or plugged causing water to be ponded in this
area for an extended length of time rather than the 1-2
ho.•rs suggested in the report a few inches deep but it
would be a real deterrent to maintain a yard and a source
of breeding for mosquitos and other unsightly conditions.
We also cannot determine from the information submitted
exactly where thi- oonding area is proposed tut it appears
from looking at t.l: site that it would entail a major portion
of the balance of the present level land between the house
and the lake. If it is to be constructed towards Carmen
Road and the house then major difficulties would be encountered
with the grading of the site to carry the water into this
area and then to getting rid of the water which seeps through
the dike.
Summing up we conclude that with a proper operating
system as proposed could provide water_ of at least equal
quality to that present discharge from the draft surface.
However, major problems appear to exist in the successful
sustained long term operation of the system proposed and
we believe it would require extensive maintenance and it
would soon be discarded or otherwise ignored. For this
reason we do not believe that a long range solution to
the water quality problems have been provided and would
reserve final judgment until such time as additional
supplimentary data is submitted showing detail data
dimensions and location. Further the soil test seem
to preclude the construction of any system which would
feed the water back into the ground water table as the
soils are rather impervious and such a solution does
not appear practible.
Our review has not attempted to address itself
specifically to the items raised by Mr. Ripple regarding
the effect on the light and air circulation. However,
the visual changes referred to in his report appear
accurate. However, we have not seen the detailed plans
on the proposed house and would have to reserve absolute
judgement until such plans our available.
If you have any further questions or desire further
comments regarding this project do not hesitate to contact
US.
Very truly yours,
MCCOMBS-KNUTSON ASSOCIATES, INC.
William H. McCombs, P.E.
WHM:j1
ORONO COUNCIL MEETING OF APRIL 22, 1975
Page 2
The antenna ordinance was discussed generally
by the Village Council and members of the
attending public. Mr. Russell Lund, Mr.
George Johnson, Peter Clark, Herman Renner
and a represebtative for Gayles Marina discussed
their view points. Councilman Gary Welsh
presented additions and ommissions to the
ordinance for Council review. The Mayor
instructed the Administrator to- agenda
this matter for May 13, 1975 when all Council
members would be present.
Mr. Brad Van Nest discussed the concern of the
Planning Commission and the need to address
itself to Riparian Rights, outlot requirements
and lot requirements related to depth and width
for dock requirements. The Planning Commission
will stNdy these needs and refer to the Council
at a later date for policy direction.
Searles moved, Welsh seconded, that the
request for a lot area and width variance
for Cleon Hildens, 1240 Spruce Place, be
referred to the Planning Commission. Motion,
Ayes (3) - Nays (0).
Mr. Podany appeared before the Council and
presented a new proposal for an addition to
his residence. Since this proposal had not
been previously submitted or reviewed,
Searles moved, Paurus seconded, to refer the
new proposal to the Planning Commission.
Motion, Ayes (3) - Nays (0).
Paurus moved, Welsh seconded, that the
variance for Roger Kraines, 4485 Fores*
Lake Landing, conditioned on combininc:
Lots B, C & F, be approved. Motion, Aye4 (3) -
Nays (0).
Paurus moved, Welsh seconded, to approve
a variance from lakeshore and hardcover
setback for a 9' X 28' addition, conditioned
on 1) Will not increase hardcover area;
2) Since the existing structure is located
within the 75' setback the variance will
allow only 4' of the 9' addition to extend
into the 75' lake setback requirement. The
balance of 5' shall be outside of the setback
requirement; 3) The addition is to the rear
of the existing house; 4) Applicant must
tear out existing blacktop. Motion, Ayes (3) -
Mays (0) .
ANTENNA ORDINANCE
RIPARIAN RIGHTS
VARIANCE
1240 Spruce Place
285 Carman Road
VARIANCE
4485 Forest Lake
Landing
VARIANCE
1635 Bohn's Point Road
TO: h. R. Benson, Administrator
FR41: 11. F. "kihich, Zoning Administrator
llA'E : April 22, 1975
U : Proposed .Addition to Podanv Residence
3285 Carman Road
:'After reviewing the latest reports regarding the r oposed addition
to the Podanv residence at 3285 Carman Road, I am still of the opinion
that granting a variance from the reouired 75' setback requirement
would be a reversal from all the rationale in our determination of
adopting t'- is regulation.
I appreciate the research and study necessary in preparing these
reports, however, it must be remembered that'a very extensive studv
was made by the various represent:it vies (-)' the Village before adopting
all of the regulatory measures in our current Zoning Ordinance. 'Ihe
purpose of these measures is to provide health, safety, and welfare
for the general rxiblic as well as to preserve and restore the natural
conditions in the community.
To waive regulations in cases such as this where other alternatives
might accomplish the same goal could result in a precedent conflicting
with the rationale behind our Comprehensive Plan and Zoning Ordinance.
There appears to be no way to extend the structure toward the lake
without some way obstructing the view of the neighbors.
The suggested trench drainage system would nrohahlv acconplish its
Ixirpose under ideal conditions and nroper rnintenance. However, there
could he no assurance of these factors. Changes of weather or ownership
of the property would also have an effect on the efficiency of *his
design. We must provide for conditions sixth as these by appl;
nrovisions similar to those in the U.B.C. wherehv variances from
regulations shall be governed by the most restrictive measures. he
mist control the storm kater runoff, the source of lake ',!innetonka, as
we have concluded to preserve and restore the conditions of Like 'Ainneton',.a.
I have also attached a cony of the appraisal sheet of the Podanv
nroTvrty. These records indicate a main floor living area exceeding
1000 sa. ft. With a full basement under this, area it apnears that
better than average living facilities could he provided for a family
of seven in the existing structure.
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ONO
VILLA
Mr. W. B. VanNest
3295 Carman Road
Excelsior, Minnesota 55331
Dear Brad:
As you will observe, a copy of this letter is
being sent to the Village Council and to our mutual
neighbor, Ned Podany. Its purpose is to make a record
of my desire to be kept informed of any developments
on what sounded last night like an Amended Petition
for a Variance for some new construction, by way of an
addition, to the existing Podany residence. Ned had
called me before the Council meeting and given me the
impression that the existing Petition was being with-
drawn and that another would be filed, but, apparently,
a decision was made to try to amend the existing
application. Regardless of the form and manner of
presenting the evident new idea, Ned informed me that
he would give me copies of whatever I wanted so that
Mrs. Halladay and I could make an informed judgment
on what position we might take in connection with
those new ideas. As of this writing, I have had no
access to any such data. Consequently, I can only
state my general opposition to any new construction
or addition which has the potential of burdening the
surrounding property or the general environment, in-
creasing the density or otherwise varying from the
requirements of existing ordinances. I have no way
of knowing whether the new proposal would be regarded
as minimal or not; on the other hand, and regardless
of my personal interests, I think that sound vlann-
ing policy dictates a rather rigid adherence to the
standards because of the precedent which could be
established by any variance, however minor one might
appear when looked at in isolation. on the other
hand, in an attitude of neighborliness, 7 hav no
ambition to make life miserable for the Podan,., and,
Mr. W. B. VanNese
April 23, 1975
Page 2
naturally, hope that their attitude has something of
the same flavor. At this tine, the maneuvering to
date has cost me several hundred dollars as I have
been required to hire experts to tell me that the
original proposal would not only do what was already
obvious to me in interfering with our access to
the winds and weather of the environment but also
showed, rather clearly, that any further hard cover
on the clay will make my position, down stream from
Podanys, even more subject to run-off water than is
already tho case.
I am sorry to bother you with this record -
making, but it did seem necessary.
Cordially,
He ralladay
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cc: Orono Village Council
Mr. Ned Podany
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TO: Planning Commission
FROM; Hank Muhich
DATE: April 29, 197S
RE: Mar.'_n Podany, 328S Carman Road
Hardcover Setback Variance
At the last Council meeting, the Podanys withdrew their original
request for a hardcover setback variance. At this meeting they
submitted floor plans of an addition different from the original
Props
The Council referred this new proposal back to the Planning Commission.
The applicant was informed that new site plans and applications
would be required before processing the proposal. As of this date
they have not been submitted to our office.