HomeMy WebLinkAbout{Post meeting informationORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 16,1999
(#'9) #2460 CLIFF OTT MWMSTIN JACQUES, 3800 WA12ATA BOULEVARD, CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT - Continued
Mabusth moved, White seconded, a motion to approve Application #2460 for Cliff
Otten/Kristin Jacques at 3800 Wayzata Boulevard for a conditional Use permit subject to the
following conditions: .
1. The number of enrollees shall be limited to a maximum of 60 persons at one time. The
number of staff allowed shall correlate to the number required by DHS for the age and
number of enrollees.
2. The applicant shall provide the hours of operation for Inclusion in the resolution.
3. The applicant is to obtain a license from DHS.
VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
SKETCH PLAN REVIEWS
010) #2456 BOHLAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, HAVING AN INTEREST IN 1025 BROWN
ROAD SOUTH (PID #10417-23-24-0001), $:56 p.m. - 8:30 p.m.
Steve Bohl, Bohland Development, Inc., was present.
Van Zomeren presented the staff report. She stated the zoning district for this parcel is RR-1 B which
requires two acres of dry buildable land for each residence. The lot area Is 42.6 acres in total, with
20.5 dry acres and 23.1 wet acres. The site plan shows seven lots. The lots meet the two -acre
minimum with the exception of lot 4. The dry acres are 1.8. A NURP pond will be located on lot 4.
Access to lot 1 would be provided through King Street. The rest of the lots would be served by a cul-
de-sac coming off from Brown Road. Lot 2 would be served by an outlot off from the cul-de-sac. Lot
2 would be considered a through -lot. She said the proposed plan shows a primary and secondary
septic site for each proposed lot. The Park Dedication Fee has not been determined since this is a
sketch plan. The City would require flowage and conservation easements over the wetlands and
drainage and utility easements along the lot lines. The private road for the cul-de-sac would need to
be designed and maintained according to City standards. She said the stormwater management
issues have gone to the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District. She requested that the Planning
Commission discuss the following issues: 1. Proposed access for Lot 1 via King Street; 2. Lot 2
access and status as through lot; 3. Lot 4 lot area at 1.8 acres; and 4. Tax -forfeited 'exception"
parcel.
White asked if the tax forfeited parcel would Increase the size of lot 4.
Van Zomeren stated it would not Increase the dry buildable area because the tax forfeited parcel is
wet.
Mabusth asked if a wetiand delineation had been completed.
Van Zomeren said yes.
Steve Bohl stated his original proposal was for six lots with a cul-de-sac coming off from Willow
Drive. At that time, he did not have a contract to purchase the property located at 1045 Brown Road
and the lots would have all exceeded the minimum 2.0 acre requirement. He said that Dave
Zetterstrom of Hennepin County looked at the proposed access off from Brown Road. He said
Zetterstrom felt that the access onto Brown Road would be a safe and better situation than adding
additional traffic to Willow Drive. Zetterstrom also looked at the King Street access for lot 1 which
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ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY Is-1999
(#10) #2466 BOHLAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, HAVING AN INTEREST IN 1025 BROWN
ROAD SOUTH (PID #10-117-23-24-0001) - Continued
currently serves one property, 775 Brown Road. He said Zetterstrom commented that this would be a
safe entrance for both properties. Bohl talked about the ponding issue on lot 4.
Mabusth asked if the NURP pond. could be moved further north.
Bahl said it could probably move to lot 3. He said the neighbor to the southeast comer of the
property has asked about the possibility of Bahl selling a small portion of the property to the neighbor
for an extension of their lot. If Bahl did not sell them that portion of the property and moved the lot
lines, it would be possible to meet the two -acre minimum for lot 4.
White asked about the topography of the site.
Bahl said the perimeter of the southerly portion is pasture land. The exception piece on the west and
the southeast portion are wooded. The northerly portion of the property is dense woods except for the
wetland.
White asked the purpose of the outiot attached to the cul-de-sac.
Bohl said the outlot is the driveway access for lot 2.
Van Zomeren said she wanted to point out the outlot and find out if that was acceptable rather than
having lot 2 on the cul-de-sac. She said lot 2 is a through lot because it could have access on
Willow.
Mabusth said the zoning code has a section that deals with the creation of the private driveway
outlots having to 'do with the topography, saving a wooded area, or something physical and unique to
the land.
Bahl said it would be nearly impossible to grade in a driveway from Willow because of the
topography.
Mabusth commented that all of the lots could be considered through lots, which means a conditional
use permit would be required every time someone put up an accessory structure.
Hawn questioned the location of the septic sites because some of them are close to each other.
Bahl stated that on lots 2, 3, and 4, the septic sites would be typical drainfields because the soil for
these three lots is sand. The other lots would have typical mound systems.
Mabusth stated that the lot area for lot 4 will be a concern.
Bahl stated he does not need to purchase that property. He said the home on that property is in need
of repair. Using that property for the access would make the access more visually appealing. BON
said if he doesn't buy that property and someone else buys it in the future, they would need a
variance for the lot area. He said there is a gas tank buried on the property, but it can be cleaned up.
White said there would be advantages if Bahl took possession of the tax forfeited property. White
Bald taxes would be paid on it and it would be kept clean.
Mabusth asked if Bahl would share the driveway on King Street with the property owner to the north.
Bahl described the grading plan for the driveway.
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ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 16,1999
010) #2456 BORLAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, HAVING AN INTEREST IN 1025 BROWN
ROAD SOUTH (PID #10.117 23-x40M) _ Con inued
Mabusth asked about the City's Interest In maintaining King Street as a public road. She asked if the
northern property owner and the southem property owner would share it if it was vacated.
Van Zomeren said the County would have to research it to see who is the fee owner. Typically, it's
50-50.
White asked If Bohl has developed any other areas in Orono.
Bohl said this is his first project in Orono. He is involved in developments in Independence and
Wayzata.
White asked if SON has ever been sued for non-performance. Bohl said no.
Hawn said It would be difficult to approve a plan that did not meet the minimum lot size requirement.
Mabusth said she would like to see the King Street access improved.
Gaffron said that topography maps are needed for the King Street area.
Robert Wiens, 2170 Shevlin Drive, sald he lives on the property located to the north. He would like
the developer to comply with the two -acre minimum requirement. He said he is also concerned about
further subdivision of lot 1.
Bohl questioned the need for a conditional use permit for grading.
Van Zomeren replied that it depends on how much land alteration will be done. She said it is based
on cubic yards.
PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS
(#11) REPORT OF PLANNING COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVES ATTENDING COUNCIL
MEETINGS ON JANUARY 25,1999 AND FEBRUARY 8, 1999
None.
(912) OTHER ISSUES FOR DISCUSSION
Hawn thanked Mabusth and White for serving as alternate members to the Planning Commission.
Mayor Gabriel Jabbour stated he was concerned about attendance of the Planning Commission
members. He complimented the Commission members on the way they facilitated the meeting and
he encouraged them to send Items to the City Council with strong recommendations. He said he
would like to see leadership from the Planning Commission on housing for the elderly.
(#13) PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR JANUARY 19,1999
Hawn moved, McMillan seconded, to table the minutes of the January 19,1999 Regular
Planning Commission meeting. VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0.
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CITYof ORONO
Municipal Offices
Street Address: Wailing Address:
2750 Kelley Parkway P.O. Box 66
Orono, MN 55356 Crystal Bay, MN 55323.0066
March 24, 1999
Attn: Bernie
Westwood Professional Services, Inc.
104 Marty Drive, Suite 3
Buffalo MN 55313
Re: Application #2467
Please find enclosed a copy of the proposed plat with my note regarding the Planning Commission
comments. I've also enclosed copies of the engineer's and landscape architect's comment. If you
have questions, call me at 249-4623.
Sincerely,
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Liz Van Zomeren
City Planning/Zoning Administrator
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Telephone. (612) 4731-7357 0 FAX 4TJ-W10
CITY OF ORONO
2750 Kelley Parkway, P.O. Box 66
Crystal Bay, MN 55323
Phone (612) 249-4600 Fax (612) 249-4616
NOTICE
The Orono City Council will hold a public hearing in the Council Chambers at 2780 Kelley Parkway
on Monday, April 12, 1999, beginning at 7:00 p.m. on the matter of application #2467, a proposed
preliminary plat for a 6 lot subdivision and a conditional use permit for grading/filling to construct
a driveway for the proposed Lot 1. The proposed subdivision is located at 1025 Brown Road South.
All persons wishing to be heard will be heard at this time. To review the application, please call
249-4600 for an appointment.
City of Orono
By: Planning Commission
Elizabeth Van Zomeren, City Planner/Zoning Administrator
To be published the week of March 27, 1999.
Posted at: Orono City Offices
Crystal Bay Post Office
Long Lake Post Office
Navarre Post Office
CITY OF ORONO ZONING FILE #2456
P.O. Boa 66 NOTICE OF PLANNING COMMISSION
Crystal Bay, MN 55323 ACTION
473-7357 DATE OF NOTICE: February 17, 1999
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TO: Steven Bohl COPIES TO:
420 Upland Lane
Plymouth, MN 55447
TYPE OF APPLICATION: Subdivision - Sketch Plan
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DATE OF MEETING: 2/16/99 VOTE: FOR AGAINST
Planning Commission recommends the following:
No action required.
NOTES:
1. Provide topographic information on King Street.
2. Lot 4 needs 2 acres dry buildable area.
3. Improve driveway/access for properties accessed via King Street.
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MEMORANDUM'
DATE: February 12, 1999
TO: Ron, Greg, Mike
FROM: Liz Van Zomeren, City Planner/Zoning Administrator
SUBJECT: Tax -Forfeited land on Brown Road South
Steven Bohl has applied for a sketch plan for a 7 lot subdivision for a parcel of land between
Willow Drive South and Brown Road South. (See Section Map). Near this parcel is a 50' x
200' section of land labeled "exception".
In 1982 this strip of land next to Brown Road South was forfeited to the State of Minnesota for
nonpayment of taxes. The City of Orono applied for conveyance of the land for drainage and
flood control.
Does the City continue to need this parcel for drainage and flood control? If not, would it be
beneficial to inform the County to make it available for sale to the adjacent property owner so
that Mr. Bohl can purchase the property and include it in his development proposal? If that
happened, it would be included in any conservation and flowage agreements.
Please let me know what you think about this idea. Mr. Bohl intends to file for preliminary
plat on Wed, Feb. 17th if the PC is favorable to his sketch plan on Tuesday.
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SD Form 966 (Rev. 9/79)
RV-02672-01
STATE NNESO OF I TA M
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE
CONVEYANCE OF FORFEITED LANDS
(Issued pursuant to Minnesota Statutes, Section 282.01, Subdivision 1)
THIS INDENTURE, made this 5th day of February, 1982, between the State of
Minnesota, as party of the first part, and City of Orono, a Governmental Subdivision, as
party of the second part, WITNESSETH:
WHEREAS, the land hereinafter described was duly forfeited to the State of
Minnesota for the nonpayment of taxes, and,
WHEREAS, pursuant to Minnesota. Statutes Section 282.01, Subdivision 1, the party
of the second part has applied to the Commissioner of Revenue for the conveyance of
lands hereinafter described to be used by it exclusively for drainage and flood control,
and,
WHEREAS, the Board of County Commissioners of the County of Hennepin, State of
Minnesota, has recommended to the Commissioner of Revenue by resolution adopted on
the 17th day of November, 1981, that such conveyance be made,
NOW, THEREFORE, the State of Minnesota, pursuant to said laws and in
consideration of the premises, does hereby grant, bargain, sell and convey unto the party
of the second part, forever, all the tracts or parcels of land lying and being in the County
of Hennepin, State of Minnesota, described. as follows, to -wit:
District Plat Parcel P.I.D.
38 41310 7400 10-117-23 21 0002
Section 10 - Township 117 - Range 23
That part of the NE I of NW corresponding to Lot 10 Block 6 Minnetonka View
now vacated including adjacent of street and alley vacated
38 42020 6800 20-117-23 31 0015
Casco Heights, Lot 33,. Block 4
38 42020 6900 20-117-23 310016
Casco Heights, Lot 34, Block 4
38 42420 4900 17-117-23 31 0026
Townsite of Langdon Park, Lot 3, Block 10, that part lying N of S 175 ft
38 42420 5100 17-117-23 31 0031
Townsite of Langdon Park, Lot 4, Block 10, that part lying N of S 175 ft
TO HAVE AND TO HOLD THE SAME, together with all the hereditaments and
appurtenances thereunto belonging or in anywise appertaining, to the said party of the
second part so long as it shall continue to use said land for the purpose aforesaid, and upon
condition that if such use shall cease said land shall revert to the party of the first part as
provided by law. No deed tax will be payable on this conveyance.
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