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HomeMy WebLinkAbout17-3977 ExD PC Minutes DraftMINUTES OF THE ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Monday, October 16, 2017 6:30 o’clock p.m. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Page 1 of 5 11. #17-3977 BRIAN BENSON ON BEHALF OF JIM AND MARY JUNDT, 1400 BRACKETTS POINT ROAD, SKETCH PLAN, 9:45 P.M. – 10:05 P.M. Brian Benson, Builder, was present. Barnhart stated before the Planning Commission is a sketch plan proposal for a 5-lot single family residential development. The property consists of 13.78 acres and lies near the southern end of Brackets Point Road. The purpose of the sketch plan review is to obtain the feedback from the Planning Commission on some of the issues associated with developing this piece of property. The main issue is the access to the site. Bracketts Point Road enters the property at the north end and then cuts to the west side. Within Bracketts Point Road is an existing sanitary sewer line that serves the area. The property owner is proposing to vacate the road, relocate it to the interior of the site, retain the existing sanitary sewer line and protect it with an easement with specific site improvements to protect access. The southern end is proposed as a cul-de-sac, with separate drives to maintain access to the private road. Barnhart stated the main policy question is whether shifting the road into the interior of the property is acceptable. Staff will continue to make sure that emergency vehicle access is maintained. Barnhart noted by virtue of adding four new lots onto the subject property, traffic will increase on Bracketts Point Road and will also impact its connection with Shoreline Road to the north. Input from the County is necessary to determine whether any improvements are necessary at this intersection. The proposal to relocate the road to the interior of the road will help remove hardcover within the lake yard of proposed Lots 3, 4, and 5. The other issue is the establishment of average lakeshore setback. When new lake lots are created, the average lakeshore setback needs to be established at the time of subdivision. It is Staff’s belief that the existing sanitary sewer line will be adequate to service the additional homes but that will need to be verified. Council Exhibit D 17-3977 MINUTES OF THE ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Monday, October 16, 2017 6:30 o’clock p.m. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Page 2 of 5 Lastly, a Conservation Design Plan will need to be completed. A number of trees will need to be removed to facilitate the road realignment and house construction. Barnhart noted this project has been designed with the intention of following city ordinances in terms of lot size, lot frontage, and things of that nature. Barnhart stated at the present time no variances appear to be necessary. Thiesse stated he sees this as a Lakeview type development where it is quite critical that everything be met. Thiesse asked what the ramifications are with relocating the road. Barnhart pointed out there are property owners that are not part of this subdivision who may want to retain the access as it is now. Thiesse stated he was thinking on the north end. Barnhart illustrated the path of the proposed roadway, noting that the existing lots would still maintain their access. City Administrator Rief asked if the road would remain public after it is moved. Barnhart indicated it would. Landgraver asked what the pros and cons are of leaving the sewer line where it is. Barnhart stated the cost to relocate the sewer line would be pretty expensive. Thiesse stated the City would need to have vehicular access to that area. Rief stated one of the concerns with moving the sewer line is the need for lift stations. Landgraver asked if there is any additional maintenance cost with leaving the septic line. MINUTES OF THE ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Monday, October 16, 2017 6:30 o’clock p.m. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Page 3 of 5 Barnhart stated having the road as access makes it easier and that there will probably be some additional impacts but that the City Engineer has reviewed it briefly and did not raise any concerns with relocating it. Leskinen commented having the road go down the middle might be better for the lake since it would help with salt runoff and hardcover. Barnhart stated having the road by the lake also provides some benefit to the area in terms of lake views. Chuck Alcon stated since they submitted their plan, they have met with the fire chief, which led to the basis of the radius of the cul-de-sac. The road would also improve emergency vehicles access. Alcon stated they also met with LMCD staff, and since there will be no marina, each property owner will be responsible to permit their own docks on their lakeshore. Alcon indicated they also met with the MCWD staff, and they are eager to get the road off the lakeshore. The proposal is to maintain the sewer line and provide an easement using grass pavers so the maintenance trucks can get down there. A wetland delineation has been completed and that has been submitted to the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District. Alcon indicated they will have that information for the preliminary plat. Attempts have been made to contact the property owners in the area and that those attempts have not been successful at the present time. Alcon indicated they will continue to make attempts to contact them. Alcon stated shifting of the road improves the lake quality and that they will contact Hennepin County as far as the additional traffic going onto County Road 15. Onsite ponding and infiltration are the current concepts for the stormwater management onsite and sanitary sewer capacity calculations will be provided at the time of preliminary plat. Sanitary sewer maintenance access will be along the existing roadway area but with grass pavers. The grass pavers will accommodate up to 88,000 pounds. Alcon noted a Conservation Design Plan is required and that they will provide that at preliminary plat. MINUTES OF THE ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Monday, October 16, 2017 6:30 o’clock p.m. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Page 4 of 5 Alcon stated the two major items are relocating the road, which will help the lake quality, and then maintaining the sanitary sewer. No new lift stations are required and quite a bit of hardcover will be removed down near the lake. Alcon noted water will be provided via private wells and the underground storage tank that was for fire protection will be removed because the fire chief has indicated he would not use it. Lemke asked if there are any issues with the grass pavers. Alcon stated to his knowledge there are not and that Mark Gronberg is the surveyor on the project and he has used them in the past at the Long Lake Library. Thiesse encouraged him to get in touch with the neighbors. Brian Benson noted they have a meeting scheduled with the owner who owns two of the three lots on Monday and that they have also reached out to a couple of other people but have gotten no response. Another neighbor asked whether the main house is staying and the other family is moving. Alcon noted the 45-foot radius continues on through the corner and connects into the private road as opposed to the curved hammerhead. Schoenzeit asked how the proposed grading for the homes will compare to what is there. Alcon stated they will be custom graded lots. Benson stated they might do a custom grading plan for Lot 5 since it is low and flat. Schoenzeit asked if these homes will have foundations or be slab on grade. Benson indicated Lot 2 would be a walkout, Lot 3 would be a walkout, Lot 4 might be a lookout, and then Lot 5 will likely need to be built up. Benson stated they are waiting to get feedback from this meeting and then they will explore that a little bit more. MINUTES OF THE ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Monday, October 16, 2017 6:30 o’clock p.m. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Page 5 of 5 Alcon stated all that information will be provided at the time of preliminary plat. Landgraver asked what the rough square footage of the homes will be. Benson stated the lots would be sold to end buyers and they would work with the City on their individual building plans. Benson stated they are not planning on having any architectural covenants placed on the property but that there would be an association for the pond. Alcon stated the association will probably have some architectural control. Lemke asked if an easement for the sewer connection will be needed for Lot 1. Alcon stated the necessary easements will be provided. The Planning Commission took no formal action on this item.