HomeMy WebLinkAboutLA21-000017 (480 Big Island) Ex B FarnesFrom:Nancy Farnes
To:Joe.Thull@gmail.com
Cc:Melanie Curtis; Jeremy Barnhart; saarico1@aol.com; david.saari@advantagesolutions.net; jchamplin@wck.com;
chris@generalstoreofminnetonka.com; tedhanna@qwestoffice.net; Big Island Chris Bollis
Subject:480 Vacant Lot Application Relevant follow-up after Monday PM Meeting
Date:Monday, April 26, 2021 10:14:01 AM
Attachments:Thull BI Application April 2021.doc
Dear J.Thull, M.Curtis and J.Barnhart,
Please review and elevate to the Council for consideration. I am under quarantine in a serious personal
matter unable to risk attending a public held meeting.
I forward new relevant discovery to address prior to or at meeting before a final vote on Thull application
tonight.
Thank you,
Nancy Farnes
612-272-6611
CC Notified Big Island Owners for Thull Application
April 25, 2021
Dear Mr and Mrs Thull,
Upon review of #2038, #4465 and easements after our meeting I submit the following:
The City may have initially said to “go for 230’s dock permit”. But your disregard of
material facts with testimony discovered and delivered during due process for Council’s
final decision frustrates the situation. IE:
“I should be grateful informed an application revokes my dock permit”
Resolution #2038 states “...any other requests from other inland property owners”
It does not state vacant lot owners. I submit no inland property remains at BI
without use of a dock. Vacant lots vastly differ from intent and void a hardship.
230 is in good standing with #2038, neighbors and the City for 35 years. I oppose
an inference to add a condition on permit, police me with intent to revoke for you.
480 BI is in a group of five vacant lots ranging .16-.28 acre (no sewer, structures,
wells or docks). No historical use of such exists or was provided. 480 abuts Bird
Sanctuary donated to Three Rivers Park, they may oppose with many restrictions.
Comment to council “I am open to anything” yet it is reported:
Only approached preferred property for a free dock or easement you value at 20K.
Rejected two offers to buy your inland vacant lot; “no” it is not for sale.
Dismissed idea to purchase lakeshore cabin, take a free easement then sell it.
Dismiss joining Power Squadron for a dock at nominal fee w/in walking distance
I must defend any property rights. It includes grandfathered historical use in writing from
the city to 230 BI; testimony 44 years prior to #2038 granted for 60K (not 45) purchase.
It is a drain field w/trench, mature trees and erosion perhaps from vehicle use discovered
in video, trench clogged from it or storm taking down a tree with power line.
Precedent was set 20 years ago not to revoke/share #2038 to 230 BI for unique situation.
Abandoned roads are incorporated as yards for abutting properties. It is not realistic to
assume the City is privy to conditions of right-a-ways (drain field, trench, trees etc) as
owners are liable for damages, maintenance and expenses as they deem necessary.
Big Island comp plan, ordinances/regulations affect a small community of 47 owners as
stewards of the land; 2nd and 3rd generations with a level of trust in the City and LMCD.
Summary
Vacant lots have inferior privileges; referenced as vacant lot in legal documents, IRS
forms, lending, purchase agreements etc.
I submit the relevant discussion that lines up with Big Island comp plans, the two dock
permits, easements; historical use, City ordinances, LMCD regulations, and intent of all
exclude a vacant lot.
Is the City responsible to secure docks for remaining five vacant lots with no precedent?
Did applicant deliver data, intent or material facts to support vacant lots qualify for a
dock/permit?
Did applicant deliver any valid data to support vacant lots qualify for a dock/permit, to
encroach, impose intent and conditions to police #2038 in good standing to 230?
Although precedent is set on #2038; #4465 also states inland properties. 220 was split off
but had a structure. Perhaps more flexible but also restricted for use to an inland property.
With no precedent set on Big Island for vacant lots with no lakeshore I submit it does not
qualify. The two existing permits retire from requests to revoke/share. It was proven all
inland properties have use of a dock. City approved easements that resolve future issues.
I respectfully ask Council to deny Mr. and Mrs. Thull’s application for a dock noting on
record for future reference the problems, hardships, and precedent set in writing on #2038
as a historical unique situation to 230 BI.
.
Thank you for your consideration, patience and understanding with efforts invested.
Nancy L Farnes
230 Big Island
612-272-6611
CC: City planners, Council and Mayor
Notified property owners at BI
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From:Nancy Farnes
To:joe.thull@radaro.com; Judson Champlin; saarico1@aol.com; aleya@champlins.us; dsaari@gmail.com;
chris@generalstoreofminnetonka.com; dsarri53@gmail.com; bigislandcat@aol.com; pt.thiss@gmail.com;
david.saari@advantagesolutions.net; sjthull@gmail.com; tedhanna@qwestoffice.net; Aleya Champlin
Cc:Melanie Curtis
Subject:Re: Updated invitation: Big Island - Dock Solution Discussion - Update To City Co... @ Wed May 5, 2021 7pm -
8pm (CDT) (nfarnes@earthlink.net)
Date:Wednesday, May 5, 2021 5:19:14 PM
Attachments:Orono Big Island owners.pdf
Hello Joe and Zoom islanders,
I apologize but cannot attend. Below is my contribution for the meeting.
Joe, by now you may understand this is more involved than a private dock for you. It affects all owners,
not just us copied on email. They respectfully should be notified with for their input on a proposal of this
magnitude and not rushed.
1) There are major differences in privileges for vacant lots vs properties.
2) I count seven vacant lots with no structures.
Does 240, 250 etc. have seniority over private docks if overhauling Big Island, Codes, Ordinances?
Like Ted, I add four to the list and assume George will join in.
All vacant lots w/no structure must be accounted for to defend your plan and purported rights to revoke
2038 and 4465.
Who picks up the hefty tab and mountains of work if a plan falls in place; the city doesn't.
3) Did the fire dept, excel, phone cable, emergency, LMCD agree to docks blocking right-of-ways? Did
city planners, commissioners and council agree to do it for you?
4) Trespassing on private property, erosion on paths, trench and drain field by motorized vehicles is a
serious concern and violation. It is photographed and reported.
Please review attached from Orono on this for discussions. The city does not pick up the tab, who
pays hefty tab to restore and are you proposing to open up the
abandoned roads etc.
Didn't the Mayor also say he would veto your application that night at meeting if voted on?
Can we be mindful of material facts, problems and hardships discovered in any proposed plan for
discussions?
Sorry I cannot attend. Thank you in advance for discussions of my would be input.
Nancy
nfarnes@earthlink.net
-----Original Message-----
From: joe.thull@radaro.com
From:Nancy Farnes
To:joe.thull@radaro.com; Judson Champlin; saarico1@aol.com; aleya@champlins.us; dsaari@gmail.com;
chris@generalstoreofminnetonka.com; dsarri53@gmail.com; bigislandcat@aol.com; pt.thiss@gmail.com;
david.saari@advantagesolutions.net; sjthull@gmail.com; tedhanna@qwestoffice.net; Aleya Champlin
Cc:Melanie Curtis
Subject:Re: Updated invitation: Big Island - Dock Solution Discussion - Update To City Co... @ Wed May 5, 2021 7pm -
8pm (CDT) (nfarnes@earthlink.net)
Date:Wednesday, May 5, 2021 7:25:40 PM
Maybe Orono would grant seven vacant lots one long dock holding seven boats on a Resolution at Big
Island Park?
-----Original Message-----
From: joe.thull@radaro.com
Sent: May 4, 2021 10:34 AM
To: nfarnes@earthlink.net, Judson Champlin , saarico1@aol.com, aleya@champlins.us,
dsaari@gmail.com, chris@generalstoreofminnetonka.com, dsarri53@gmail.com,
bigislandcat@aol.com, pt.thiss@gmail.com, david.saari@advantagesolutions.net,
sjthull@gmail.com, tedhanna@qwestoffice.net, Aleya Champlin
Subject: Updated invitation: Big Island - Dock Solution Discussion - Update To City Co... @ Wed
May 5, 2021 7pm - 8pm (CDT) (nfarnes@earthlink.net)
This event has been changed.
Changed: Big Island - Dock Solution Discussion - Update To City
Council
When Changed: Wed May 5, 2021 7pm – 8pm Central Time - Chicago
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