HomeMy WebLinkAboutApplication materialsJULIE THOMETZ
1360 & 1370 BALDUR LLC
FLOODPLAIN CALCULATIONS
November 8, 2019
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Hennepin County Property Map
Date: 9/20/2019
PARCEL ID: 0811723310015 � -2.� —�� ' bd
OWNER NAME: Boulder Bluff Llc--3� -b o !-7
PARCELADDRESS: 1340 Baldur Park Rd, Oro
PARCEL AREA: 0.46 acres, 20,195 sq ft
A-T-B: Torrens
SALE PRICE: $650,000
SALE DATA: 08/2012
SALE CODE: Excluded From Ratio Studies
ASSESSED 2018, PAYABLE 2019
PROPERTY TYPE: Seasonal -Residential Re
HOMESTEAD: Non -Homestead
MARKET VALUE: $6861000
TAX TOTAL: $8,105.62
ASSESSED 2019, PAYABLE 2020
PROPERTY TYPE: Seasonal -residential Rec
HOMESTEAD: Non -homestead
MARKET VALUE: $655,000
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MINUTES OF THE
ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Monday, August 20, 2018
6:30 o'clock p.m.
3. LA18-000068 SVEN GUSTAFSON ON BEHALF OF 1350 BALDUR, LLC, PIDS
08417-23-31-0006 THROUGH 08417-23-31-0009, BALDUR PARK ROAD, SKETCH PLAN, 6*38
P.M. — 7:09 P.M.
Sven Gustafson, Applicant, was present.
Barnhart noted this is a sketch plan application for a plat on Baldur Park to combine four lots into one lot
for the purposes of constructing a new single-family home. This is not a subdivision or the splitting of a
lot. There is an existing house at the point.
When looking at a plat, the City has to look at a couple of different scenarios. When the property is
platted in the proposed manner, it will create a back lot, which is prohibited by City ordinances. Barnhart
stated there is not a lot of details available in terms of grading or configuration of roads and that the
applicant is looking for guidance from the Planning Commission on the issues outlined in the Staff report.
Overall the property is generally flat or very close to the ordinary high water line, so flooding or
floodplain issues may come into play on this development. A wetland may be located on the site which
will need to be delineated. Both of those items are important in determining minimum lot size and more
information will need to be provided.
Baldur Park is a platted public road and does not actually touch this properly on land. A copy of an
easement, if one exists, will need to be provided, or else additional information will need to be submitted
showing how the property will access the road. Generally a cul-de-sac would be required at the end of a
public road to provide a turnaround for emergency vehicles. The lack of frontage onto Baldur Park Road
prevents a cul-de-sac within the Baldur Park Road right -of --way unless additional right -of --way is platted.
The proposed plat appears to be consistent with the Orono 2030 Community Management Plan. As a
sketch plan, it has been submitted to the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District and those comments will
need to be incorporated into the plan at some point. A Conservation Design plan is not required since this
is a proposed plat and not a subdivision.
A tree removal plan will be required since there are several large trees on the property, many of which
will need to be removed to accommodate construction.
The issues identified by Staff include frontage of the property.
Issues for discussion:
1. Front lot/back lot. Platting the property as proposed will create an easement back lot. Does the
Planning Commission feel a waiver from the prohibition of an easement back lot is warranted?
2. The 7546ot lake yard variance. Because of the narrow width of the peninsula, any improvement
of the subject lot will require 75-foot lake yard setback variances. Does the Commission support
the placement of a lot in the location, requiring variances? An alternative lot location further at
the point would prevent the need for a variance.
3. Does the Commission feel that adjustments to the lot area requirements are justified?
Page 1 of 5
MINUTES OF THE
ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Monday, August 20, 2018
6*30 o'clock p.m.
Staff does not support the proposal as drafted due to the following:
a. The proposal creates a nonconforming parcel by virtue of creating an easement back lot.
b. Access to the lot is in question and information supporting access rights to the development have
not been provided.
c. The lot proposed requires a lake yard setback to improve the property. Staff recommends a lot be
created at or nearer the point that does not require a lake setback to develop.
Thiesse asked if they would require 30 feet to create an outlot.
Barnhart indicated they would need a 30-foot wide outlot to provide access to the front lot/back lot. The
City would also look for some sort of turnaround within the development. This plat is similar to a recent
application approved on Ivy Place. In that situation, the developer agreed to provide onsite turnarounds
and sprinkler the buildings to help offset the challenges created by the long road ending in a dead end.
Thiesse asked what this would do to the development of the next lots down.
Barnhart stated the sketch plan does not address that and that they are simply proposing to plat these four
lots into one buildable lot.
Thiesse asked if it would preclude them from developing those lots.
Barnhart stated it would depend on whether the Planning Commission was okay with waiving the access
for the proposed lot. The front lot/back lot situation basically allows them to create this lot and then one
additional lot that would be accessed via the outlot.
Thiesse asked if a cul-de-sac would need to be constructed if the Planning Commission is not agreeable
with the front lot/back lot.
Barnhart stated that is one of the options.
Sven Gustafson, Stone wood, stated this is a unique property since it is located on a peninsula and is
narrow. To develop the property in any way would require some variances and that they are here looking
for some feedback and direction on how best to proceed with developing it.
In regards to the road, currently Baldur Park Road is 12 feet wide and it would not make much sense to
have a 24-foot wide road at the end of the 12-foot road. Gustafson stated they are looking at an outlot that
would serve some lots beyond this property.
Gustafson stated they do not know about the wetlands at this point. Once the wetland is delineated, that
will likely drive some changes. Gustafson stated obviously the 75-foot Lakeshore setbacks are impossible
to meet no matter what they do with the lot lines.
Chair Thiesse asked for public comment at 6:49 p.m.
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ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Monday, August 20, 2018
6:30 o'clock p.m.
Cindy McDonnell, 1420 Baldur Park Road, stated she has a concern about the proposal. Baldur Park
Road is brand new since the flood of 2014, and if this lot requires a lot of fill, the trucks hauling in the fill
may damage the road and she would like some assurances that repairs will be made to the road if any
occur.
McDonnell stated if there is going to be future development down at the peninsula, she would like to see a
turnaround since this will generate some additional traffic down the road, which needs to be taken into
consideration. Currently the area is somewhat of an eyesore for the whole neighborhood and in her view
the neighbors' property values are being impacted by that.
There were no further public comments.
Barnhart noted an e-mail was received this afternoon regarding the property, which has been provided to
the Planning Commission.
Thiesse asked about access.
Barnhart stated access can likely be resolved by review of the easement.
Gustafson stated there is an easement that provides access across the neighboring property, which is Lot
20, and that he can provide additional information on that.
Thiesse asked if he is amenable to moving the house down a couple of lots with a road and cul-de-sac for
emergency vehicles.
Gustafson stated they will take all the feedback they receive tonight and consider it.
Erickson commented it would be nice to see a rough plan for the rest of the area to give the Planning
Commission a better idea of what is being contemplated.
Thiesse stated the applicant is asking for approval for a portion of the property and that it is likely they
will use it as a practical difficulty.
Erickson agreed that there is a question about what happens after these variances are granted.
Gustafson stated a turnaround or a cul-de-sac for this area probably makes sense, but that a cul-de-sac or
turnaround for the. entire neighborhood at the end of the road is probably not something the property
owners are interested in doing.
Thiesse indicated he has difficulty creating a substandard lot but that there is no way to make it a
conforming lot in all respects. Thiesse noted the City normally does not allow a front lot/back lot.
Gustafson asked whether seeing a proposal that shows development of the entire peninsula would be
easier for the Planning Commission.
Thiesse commented that would be easier for him and that it appears this site needs the most work.
Thiesse stated he would rather see the whole thing and that he has the most difficulty with this lot.
Page 3 of 5
MINUTES OF THE
ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Monday, August 20, 2018
6:30 o'clock p.m.
Ressler suggested the applicant counter this plan with something to improve the situation and that they
might not necessarily be helping the situation by keeping the road at 12 feet wide. Ressler stated they
should look at balancing some of the difficulties the current residents encounter with the road by perhaps
adding a turnaround on the property.
Gustafson asked whether a turnaround on Lot 21 to allow better neighborhood and emergency vehicle
access and turnaround would be beneficial.
Thiesse commented that would be something to help the situation. The 75400t section from two
directions is also an issue. Thiesse stated he is not convinced that this is a buildable lot, which is another
big concern.
Lemke stated he is in agreement and that the proposal seems way too confirmed. Lemke stated in his
view there is a need for an emergency vehicle turnaround and that the lot does not seem buildable.
Gustafson asked whether emergency vehicles can make it down to the end of the road currently without a
turnaround.
Barnhart stated they can make it down to the end of the road.
Erickson stated in a true emergency, the fire trucks could also cut across somebody's grass.
Lemke stated he would also like to see a complete development plan so he can understand the full impact.
Barnhart asked whether the Planning Commission would like to see a conforming access in the back.
Thiesse stated that would be his preference. As it relates to the 75-foot setback, Thiesse noted it is a huge
property and that they are proposing to chop on a very narrow piece. Thiesse stated he is struggling with
the 75400t setback since he is not convinced it is a buildable lot.
Gustafson pointed out they are not chopping off one lot but are rather combining multiple properties into
a larger lot.
Ressler stated since it is not currently developed, it is a different situation, and that there will be more
traffic generated and the need for emergency vehicles to travel down the road will increase.
Gustafson stated the current access to the peninsula will not be made more difficult since that is what will
remain but that there will just be a house there.
Thiesse stated in his opinion it is a substandard road and that there is not much they can do to improve
that situation, but they can try to improve whatever else they can.
Lemke commented rather than have four unbuildable lots, they now have one unbuildable lot.
Thiesse asked whether the Planning Commission feels adjustments to the lot area requirements are
justified, including access or easements in lot area. Thiesse stated he is looking at an owner that owns a
bunch of property and that there is a neighboring city that requires lots be combined if they are all under
the same ownership.
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MINUTES OF THE
ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Monday, August 20, 2018
6*30 o'clock p.m.
Barnhart stated this is a lot of record and that Orono has the same requirement. Barnhart noted the
applicants are proposing a plat.
Thiesse stated overall he is having difficulty with the 75-foot setbacks, the size of the lot, the access, and
the turnaround.
Ressler noted wetlands are not included in the lot area calculation.
Barnhart stated in his view the issues are addressable and the next step is to take it to the City Council or
the applicants can make changes to their proposal and bring it back to the Planning Commission.
Gustafson stated they would like to take a look at the larger project and then decide what to do.
Thiesse stated in regards to the fill, there typically is an inspection of the road prior to construction and an
inspection after construction to determine whether any damage has occurred.
Gustafson stated they likely will have to bring in some fill to construct the house,. which is typical, but
that they will not be filling in the wetland area.
The Planning. Commission took no formal action on this item.
Page 5 of 5
MINUTES OF THE
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Monday, October 8, 2018
7:00 o'clock p.m.
1.4. LAiB-000068 SVEN GUSTAFSON ON BEHALF OF 1350 BALDUR1 LLC, BALDUR
PARK ROAD, SKETCH PLAN
Sven Gustafson, Applicant, was present.
Barnhart stated this is a revised sketch plan from what was seen at the Planning Commission in
September. It calls for the creation of a plat for a buildable lot on Baldur Park Road. Primarily the
property owner is looking to create a parcel that would support a new house. The subject parcels are the
six lots between the end of the development down towards the point. The developer is proposing platting
three parcels in this area and the existing home is not included in the project at this point.
Barnhart indicated there are two options for creating a buildable lot. The first option would be to create a
front lotiback lot configuration, which requires an access outlot. Option 2 is to plat several lots and
having either a public or private road to serve three or more lots.
In response to Staff s comments and the Planning Commission discussion, the applicant has revised the
plan and shows three new building lots and an Outlot A. Outlot A shows a proposed driveway and a
turnaround at the southern end of the project. None of the three lots meet the required one-half acre.
While Outlot A appears to be narrower than 30 feet adjacent to Parcels 23 and 24, Outlot A will, in fact,
need to be a road since it will be serving more than three lots. This right -of --way width needs to be 50 feet
per ordinance. However, Staff can support a waiver of the right-of-way and paved road width due to the
width of the existing Baldur Park Road, provided fire department standards are maintained.
Staff recommends the City Council discuss the following:
1. Cul-de-sac Length. Baldur Park Road is over 1,000 feet from its intersection of Birch Lane to the
subject property. The standard is 1,000 feet. There are no other options to continue Baldur Park
Road and plat the property. Staff supports the waiver.
2. Right -of --way width. Much of Baldur Park Road right -of --way width is 30 feet. The standard for
new streets is 50 feet. Staff supports the waiver.
3. Paved surface width. Much of Baldur Park Road is 18 feet paved width. The standard for streets
Serving 3-10 units is 28 feet. For more than 10 units, 32 feet is required. Staff supports a waiver
of no less than 20 feet through the new section.
4. Cul-de-sac. The latest plans show aturn-around, which is adequate if only two lots are proposed.
If there are three lots, a road is required. Staff does not support waiving the cul-de-sac
requirement.
5. Conservation Design. Because the lots proposed are smaller than two acres, the project would
require Conservation Design. Staff supports a waiver of the full design in lieu of wetland
delineation and a tree inventory where building pads are proposed.
6. Road or driveway improvements within the 75400t lake yard. The southern portion of the point
is very narrow, approximately 100-120 feet. Construction of a home within the 75-foot lake yard
is unavoidable. Staff supports shifting house pads to the north to avoid or minimize conflicts
with lake yards.
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MINUTES OF THE
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Monday, October 8, 2018
7*00 o'clock p.m.
7. Fill in the floodplain4 Based on preliminary plans, it appears that the house pads will require fill
to elevate above the flood elevation. This may be resolved with more detail being provided
and/or shifting the house pads further to the north.
The Council is asked to provide non -binding feedback on the issues presented.
Walsh asked if the applicant would be permitted to build a house on each one of the small lots.
Barnhart stated technically they could not but since there is no existing home, they could combine the lots
to get as close to the requirement as possible. There is enough land to meet the one -acre minimum.
Printup noted on Maple Place those were platted lots and they were able to build on them.
Barnhart stated it might be that those lots meet the 66 percent requirement of the DNR. If a lot exceeds
66 percent of the DNR's requirements for lot size, they can be developed. The lots on Baldur Park do not
meet that requirement. Barnhart noted there is a clause in the code that says when they own contiguous
Lakeshore properties, they can combine them to get as close as possible to the lot size requirement, and in
this case they have enough to meet the one -acre requirement.
City Attorney Mattick stated if the lots are nonconforming but meet certain minimum requirements, such
as the 66 percent, they are allowed to build. If they do not meet that requirement, the statute says if the
lots are under common ownership, they have to combine them to get it to the minimum conforming size
and not the 66 percent.
Printup asked what is being proposed for the other lots at the point.
Barnhart stated part of Staff s recommendation is to include a plan for those five lots since that would
impact the width of the road and emergency services.
Printup asked if the City should plan for five future lots.
Walsh stated the plan could change the next day and that the City has to plan for the worst possible
scenario.
Printup asked if there is an easement over the property.
Barnhart stated to his knowledge there is an easement but nothing was platted for access. In the past the
City vacated a portion of the road because it was in the water.
Printup asked if those easements can be cleaned up as part of this plat.
Barnhart stated from a planning perspective, they are open to not having it be a public street beyond a
certain point. Baldur Park Road could terminate in a cul-de-sac, with a private road or a shared driveway
beyond the cul-de-sac.
Walsh stated a private road can only serve so many homes.
Barnhart stated the road could serve a number of homes and that they are within the. allowable range.
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MINUTES OF THE
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Monday, October 8, 2018
7:00 o'clock p.m.
Printup commented he would like to see the easements get cleaned up.
Crosby asked if the proposed lots are conforming.
Barnhart indicated they are not and that they would need to combine lots in order to get to the half -acre
minimum.
Sven Gustafson, Stonewood, stated the City Council has provided some good direction and that he is here
to answer questions.
Mark Gronberg, Gronberg &Associates, indicated they looked at some of the lot sizes in the area and that
there are a number of lots that are way under the 0.5 threshold. Gronberg asked how that would play into
this.
Walsh stated the City Council has to deal with the current codes, and unless there is some kind of inherent
difficulty, they need to follow that.
Walsh commented a cul-de-sac is probably necessary, but he will leave whether the road should he public
or private up to the applicant.
Gronberg noted a cul-de-sac does take up quite a bit of room and that there are some floodplain issues.
As a result, a turnout would work a lot better than a cul-de-sac.
Gustafson stated the Planning Commission appeared to be in favor of a hammerhead or a turnout.
Printup commented he would like to see the cul-de-sac as one option.
Gustafson asked how far the cul-de-sac would be from the water.
Gronberg indicated it would be close to the water.
Walsh stated that could be considered a practical difficulty, and because the current road is not as wide as
it should be, there is some flexibility there.
Gronberg noted the area is so narrow in some spots that they will have to encroach into the 75400t
setback. Gronberg asked if there is a magical number on that.
Wash stated there are some inherent practical difficulties, which the Council understands, and that they
should follow Staffs recommendations.
The City Council took no formal action on this item.
(A recess was taken from 8:32
15. LA18-000079 LAKEWEST DEVELOPMENT, LLC, 3245 WAYZATA BOULEVARD
WEST, SKETCH PLAN
Curt Fretham and Perry Ryan, Lakewest Development, were present.
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