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PROPOSED NEIf C1T¥ FACILITIES PUBLIC HEARING
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 28, 1991
7:00 P.M.
OROWO COUNCIL CHAMBERS
1275 BROWN ROAD SOUTH
1. Roll Call
2. Open Public Hearing
- Affidavit of Publication
3, Introductory information Presentation
4. Public Comments
5. Close public Hearing
6. Council Discursion
7. Adjournment
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Chris Dunne
Vice President
Private Client Group
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80 South Eighth Street
Mlnneapote, MinnesoU 55402
6123497998 A20 South Brown Rd
Long Lake 55356
August 8, 1991
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City of orono
Attention John Gerhardson
Box 66
Crystal Bay, MN 55323
AUG 1 3 1991
Dear Mr. Gerhardson;
I would like to advise you of my opposition to tl s City
Councils proposed issue of H.P.A. bonds for a new cty
administration complex.
At the current time our county is awash in buildings
built ostensibly to cater to perceived future demands.
Many buildings nave been foreclosed upon, many suffer
from poor cash flow vs. initial proiections. Yet our
council proposes to build at this time a complex which
many do not consider to be modest!
The council refuses to take the issue to the voting
population; the press coverage implies there is
significant debate as to whether the people feel we need
this type of proposed complex.
The issue of H.R.A. bonds is a back door approach to
skirt the issue of the people's consent that would be
needed for a G.O. issue. The onus of the debt service
will still fall upon us the constituency, yet the
council persists in a manner that will probably require
a higher debt service be borne by us through the Revenue
Bond issue vs. a G.O. financing.
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Given the ongoing discussions of potential mergers of
the City of Orono with another community, it appears we
could be stuck with the expense of a white elephant,
bought at our cost despite a lack of clear support for
the proposal.
The only correct and justifiable method to determine the
constituency's demand for, and acceptance of payment for
the p-oposed buildings, is through the ballot box and
through the issue of G.o. bonds.
As elected members, accountable to the people, X believe
an above board peoples choice is the only alternative.
Chris Dunne
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1995 West Farm Road
Long Lake, MN 55356
August 21, 1991
Mayor Barbara A. Peterson and
Orono City CounciImembers
Post Office Box 66
Crystal Bay, MN 55323
Dear Mayor Peterson and City CounciImembers:
Vte have read with a great deal of interest the published reports
in our local newspapers and the recent issue of the city's
Building Newsletter. We are in agreement that the city is badly
in need of new facilities.
Since wo are unable to attend this Saturday's open house and the
public hearing on August 28, we are taking this opportunity to
express our opinions on this subject. We have only lived in
Qxiono for a little over a year and were attracted to the area
because of its close proximity to the Cities and the open and
rural nature of the surroundings. Given the nature of our zoning
ordinances, the large minimum lot sizes, and the lack of city
sewer and water in many areas, we are hard pressed to see how
Orono is going to grow much larger than its present size. We
also understand that the city's Comprehensive Plan calls for the
area to remain somewhat rural with a premium being placed on
maintaining our "open spaces." We cannot understand, therefore,
ffhy the council is considering building a facility comparable in
size to that of the City of Plymouth. We would like to see Orono
build a facility that would meet current projected needs with the
option of adding onto the buildings in later years should the
population growth warrant it at that time. If the information in
the newspapers is correct, we understand that a project of that
size could be protty much covered by the $2.5 million held in
reserve for this project.
We are also deeply disturbed that only Mayor Peterson supports
the idea of a referendum on this issue. While you may obey the
letter of the law by proceeding with a $4.4 million expansion
without voter approval, it certainly violates the spirit of the
law. We strongly urge you to scale the plans down to a facility
in keeping with the size of our population and also to allow the
voters in the city to grant the final approval.
Richard ^ Carol Parrish
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City of Orono
P.O. Box 66
Crystal Bay, MN 55323
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ATTN: J. Oiann Goetlen
City Council Member
RE: ORONO BUILDING NEWSLEHER
Dear Diann:
Recently, I had the opportunity to digest the Orono Building Newsletter. I
found the publication to be well organized and professional in its presentation.
It was obvious that careful thought went into its content and delivery.
After some reflection however, I don't believe "Newsletter" is an accurate
description, perhaps sales brochure would be more appropriate.
Initially, I was sold. Of course, police and city employees need bathroom
facilities. And no one she 1 work in fear of ‘^uildings collapsing around
them. But, does the City o *c"o r' 'ly nr.?'' a $4.4 million state of the
art facility? Oo taxes really i.c.. -j je increased to pay for this project?
If my family were to need a new car (regardless of how badly it was needed)
I would have two options, I could either save for it, or finance it and
make payments. Going to my employer and asking for more money really wouldn't
be an option. There are all kinds of cars to choose from, I would have to
select one I could afford on my available income.
Is the City building a Cadillac when a Chevy would serve the communities
needs? For example, do the police need a squad roll call room and a train.ng
room? Couldn't they be combined? Do we really need a separate meeting hall?
Aren't there facilities in the high school or middle school that would serve
the same purpose?
I pose these questions because the result of the City's current plan would
result in a tax Increase. I strongly object to any fu-^ther increase in taxes.
What was even more objectionable was the Implication in the "newsletter"
that it's only a small increase, therefore It'b O.K. Well, it's not O.K.
I think I pay enough taxes and it's time government, be it City, State or
Federal realized that fact. You need to insist that spending match revenue.
Buy that Chevy, not the Cadillac, and if you can't afford a new Chevy, buy
a used one!
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Several other questions come to mind when a tax increase is considered as a
result 7f this project. First of all, I was very pleased to learn from the
"newsletter" that the City has managed to set aside $2.5 million (since 196^}
to help fund this project. That's a very positive, successful effort, which
required the City to set aside approximately $312,000 per year. My question
Is, what is going to happen to that source of revenue which for the last
8 years has been set aside? Is it going to stop? Wouldn't that source of
revenue be available to fund long term fiwancing?
Secondly, over the past several years, Orono has enjoyed a substantial growth
when we built a home on Silverview Drive, it was the individuals on our street
that:
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paid to have the road built
assumed future road maintenance
pay for snow removal
build and maintain individual sewer systems
pay for garbage removal.
Yet our taxes are the same or higher than in similar surrounding communities
where these services are provided. How has the additional revenue been used?
If I am going to be asked to pay for the "highest quality of public services
available", it would seem the city could at least assume responsibility for
road maintenance.
Perhaps my letter is meaningless since this project has been unanimously
approved and the decision has been made to proceed. However, I do hope you
will respect my concerns and, while you may not agree, share them in discussions
with others. Also, if there are any opportunities for changes in direction
I urge you to:
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Reject any tax increases.
Examine all aspects of the project to verify actual
necessity.
Examine the overall budget for potential savings
rather than bill the taxpayers.
Insist that spending not exceed available revenue.
I regret I will be unable to attend the August 28th public hearing to express
my views personally. In sunmary, I too am in favor of clean, safe and
professional working conditions that allow City employees to deliver necessary
public services. However, I strongly believe this can and should be accomplished
without raising taxes.
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Gary and Christine Kirkpatrick
2675 Silverview Drive
Long Lake, HN 55356
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state of Minnesota. County of Hennepin
Bill HoliP. being duly sworn, cn oath says that he is
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* Senior Acctg. Clerk
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* Account C.ark (Future)
Building & zoning (High Public Traffic)
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* Assistant Zoning Administrator
* Rche & Plan Layout Room
* Service Counter/Maps & Plans
* RIes
* Qty Assessor (Future)
PubSc Works
* Public Works Director
* Recreation Coordinator (Future)
* Engineer Drafting Position (Future)
ORONO MUNICIPAL FACILITIES
CITY HALL
August 23,1991
Boarman Kroos Pfister & Associates
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PROJEfTTED EXISTING
DEPARTMENT SO. FOOTAGE SO. FOOTAGE
1. General
* Reception/Wailing Area 225 0
* General Storage/Ottice Supplies 240 79
* Vault/Archive Storage 165 675
* Council Chambers 1,404 666
• Meeting Room (-12-14 Capacity)228
* Meeting Room (5-7 Capacity)150 1
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* Toilets/Janitor's Closet 300 1 83
TOTAL FUNCTIONAL SPACE
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220
120
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368
150
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260
198
169
232
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PROPOSED EXISTING
DEPARTMENT sa FOOTAGE SO. FOOTAGE
t. Public Spaces too 25
* Reception Seating
* Public Toilets (Shared w/City Hall)
II. S«ni~Secured Areas
* Reception/Clerical 863 272
* Chiel ol Police 230 120
* Lieutenants (2)244 120
' Squad Room/Roll Call Room 356 ISO
* Training Room/Meeting Room 460
* Conference Room/Reserves Area 196
* (3uletRoom 127
* Special Teams Room 96 20
* Archives/Qenerai Storage IfO 20
* Men's Toilets and Lockers 276 70
* Womens ’ Toilets and Lockers 133 30
* Equipment Storage '50 384 (Attic)
* Lunch Room (Capacity 4)•60 20
* Patrol Supervisor (Future)'35
* Detective (Future)135
III. Secured Areas
* Sallyport/Oarage 540 308
* Evidence Garage 288 40
* Evidence Processing 84 40
* Evidence Storage 180 72
* Booking 150
* Interrogatlon/Breathalizer Room %50
* Holding Rooms (2)149 25
* Property Storage 300 270
TOTAL NET SO. FT.5,628 2,036
Circulation & Service Area 1,382 861
TOTAL AREA 7,010 2,897
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August 23,1991
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PROPOSED EXISTING
DEPARTMENT SO. FOOTAGE SQ. FOOTAGE
1. Vehicle Storage
* Vehicle Storage 17,204 8.081
* Vehicle Repair Bays 1.900 600
* Wash Bay 525 0
II. Storage
* Bulk Materials Storage 1.200 1.188
* Oil Storage 100 75
* Paints & Chemicals 80 0
* Parts Storage 320 100
III. Shops
* Multi-Purpose Shop 540 0
* Sign Shop 540 540
* Meter Repair 10O 0
* Paint Room 450 0
IV. General Areas
* Supervisor’s Ollice (2)240 118
* Supervisor’s Ollice (i Future)120 96
* Lunch Room 322 192
* Men’s A Women's Toilets & Lockers 408 120
NET SQ. FT.24,049 11,110
Circulation and Service Area 665 1,000
TOTAL SQ. FT.24,714 r 12.110
V. Unheated Storage 5.000 392
Note: 9.470 S.F. is unsale structurally.
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CITY OF ORONO
PRELIMINARY COSTS STATEMENT
CITY HALL / PUBLIC WORKS
6/11/90
Revised 6/20/91.8/10/91
Revised 8/20/91.8/21/91
1. BUILDING CONSTRUCTION
CITY HALL POLICE CONSTRUCTION
16.500 @ $8Q/$.F.
PUBUC WORKS CONSTRUCTION
24.500 S.F. @ S48/S.F.
UNHEATED STORAGE
5.000 S.P. @ S30/S.F.
SUBTOTAL
2. SITE DEVELOPMENT
•SITE UTILITIES
•SOILS CORRECTIONS
• LANDSCAPING/SCREENING
•BITUMINOUS/CURS & GUTTER
* DEMOLITION (EXISTING CITY BLOGS.)
SUBTOTAL
3. OTHER COST IMPACTS
COST
SI.320.000
$1,176,000
SI 50.000
$2,646,000
S25.CC0
$160,000
$60,000
$90,000
$35,000
$370,000
•LAND COST
•SALE OF EXIST. MUNICIPAL SITE
•SALE OF PORTION OF SEWER POND SITE
SUBTOTAL
4. CONSULTANT COSTS
ARCH/ENQ. FEE COSTS
BONDING FEES
DISCOUNT COSTS
SUBTOTAL
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6. CONTINGENCY $150,000
7. COST SAVINGS ($339,000)
8. FURNljsHINGS & EQUIPMENT
•C.H. ALLOWANCE 9 *10 S.F.$175,000
•P.W. E(3UIPMENT AUOWANCE $175,000
•SAND A SALT STORAGE S75.0C0
•MOVING COSTS $15,000
•PROFESSIONAL FEES $27,000
SUBTOTAL $467,000
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$215,000
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mPRIL 1990 JUNE 1990 JUNE 1991 AUGUST 1991
SIZE COST SIZE COST SIZE COST SIZE COST
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CITY HALUPOLICE 20,590 $1,647,200 19,315 $1,545,200 18,650 $1,492,000 16,513 $1,321,040
PUBUC WORKS 29,400 $1,411,200
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COST TOTALS $3,058,400 $2,507,312
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Public Works @ $48/S.F.
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