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The Council met on the above date with the following members
present: Mayor Barbara Peterson, CounciImembers Gabriel Jabbour,
Edward Callahan, J. DIann Goetten and Mary Butler. The following
represented the City staff: City Administrator Ron Moorse, Public
Works Director John Qerhardson, Finance Director Tom Kuehn,
Assistant Planning and Zoning Administrator Michael Gaffron, City
Attorney Tom Barrett, City Engineer Glenn Cook, and City Recorder
Terl Naab. Mayor Peterson called the meeting to order at 7:08 P.M.
Mayor Peterson noted that this meeting is a continuation of the
public hearing for the Stubbs Bay Assessment. The meeting was
continued to allow Mr. Knight, an attorney representing residents
in the area, time to meet with the City and to get answers to their
quss 11uns.
Mr. Knight said he has communicated several times with the City and
has submitted a proposal to the City Administrator Moorse. He
explained the principal concern of his cllents Is the cost of the
project. He stated the consensus of the residents he represents
is that they would like sewer but disagree with the cost and would
like to see an extension to the required hookup time period. He
stated tho proposal he submitted did not exclude any parcel. He
expresses hla cllents’ feeling that the value of their homes do
justify a lower sewer charge.
Lee Harren. 175 Landmark Drive, said he has sent several letters
to the Council stating his opposition of inclusion. He explained
his house was constructed in 1989 on a 2> acre parcel with primary
and alternate septic sites. He stated the City Engineer Indicated
to him that the only reason for inclusion was that the neighboring
property to the west needed sewer which could be run through his
property, but that was deemed undesirable as It would run
approximately 400’ through a wooded area. He stated he Is
currently being Included through a lateral from the east. He asked
the Council to consider his property to be excluded from the
project and asked that he get a response from the Counci I in
writing.
ftJJU P#terson. 475 Oxford Road, said that the houses on Oxford
Road are all newer and are all on 2-*’ acre lots. She stated that
7 of the 9 property owners on that street are opposed to the
project.
Jabbour asked to have It clarified if the residents of Cygnet Place
and Oxford Road wished to be included with the project.
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Joe Otmep, 4QQ Oxford Roa«j. stated that many of the residents in
that area wish to be included if the price is right. He said they
were hoping to have a counter offer to the proposal that they had
submitted through Mr. Knight.
Qoetten understood that there was criteria that properties would
need to meet to be excluded from the project.
Dennis Shaw. 405 Oxford Road, stated they fell excluded from the
whole process. He tried to join the citizens advisory committee
and was discouraged from joining.
Knight clarified that the consensus of his group is that they would
agree with the sewer at an acceptable price, but at the current
proposed assessment, wished to be excluded from the project.
Goetten said, “they can’t have it all
Mayor Peterson asked what they consider an acceptable price.
Knight said that the proposal
residents he represents want.
he submitted states what the
Goetten clarified that the group Knight represents want the
taxpayers of Orono to pay a large portion of the project. She
stated that the Council, In good faith, decided to pay 30* of the
project.
KnIght sa I d they w*re hop Ing the City wouId counter the Ir propose I.
Jabbour explained that the present Council decided to assess via
an appraisal process to determine the potential of a property and
what would stand up In court. He felt that property owners should
not feel Impelled to hire a lawyer to get what Is fair to them.
He stated that if the citizens that Knight represents feel that
they have not had enough time to study the project, they should be
allowed more time, but he felt the base of the project should
continue. He stated that the original intent was to run the sewer
I Ine across the lakeshore portion of the property on Oxford Road
but due to the request of the residents, was changed to run down
the street which made the assessment for that area higher.
Sfiaw noted that to allow connection for a falling system, the line
needed to run down the road.
Jabbour said he does not have a problem allowing additional time
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to hook up If the septic system is functioning properly
Dave Peterson. 2625 Fox Street, stated he was on the advisory
committee* He said he Is not a part of this project but his
mother’s property Is Involved. He noted that his septic system has
recently failed, and on a 2 1/2 acre parcel, cannot find an
alternate site. He stated that the I Ife expectancy of a septic
system is 20 years. He reminded them that nothing can be built on
an alternate site and It cannot be driven on. He stated it will
cost him more to restore his system than the sewer project will
cost any of them. He stated to Shaw that the advisory committee’s
Intent was to welcome anyone wishing to be involved.
Pat Crane. 28S Leaf Street, stated he is part of the Cygnet Place
area. He said he preferred to be a part of the project but felt
that the Council pulled a figure out of a box. He stated it
appears that they determined the cost of the base area, then
Included the additional areas at a higher cost. He felt that the
entire project should be figured on a per unit basis, making the
cost of the project for everyone $10,762.00, less the amount
retained In the contingency fund at $730.00 per parcel. He felt It
was unfair that an area would get service for less than another.
Terry cisen. 3640 Bavslde Road, said he accepts the project but
questioned why those In need of the service are paying less for the
project. He said he had a problem with a mandatory hookup If the
current system Is functioning.
Linda Whitman. 3620 El Ieen Street, stated she originally requested
to be excluded from the project, but has changed her position. She
stated they would like to be included but do not want to be forced
to hook up Immediately. She noted they would like some possibiIIty
of negotiating the assessment.
Mike FInntev. 3425 Eastlake Street, said he was In favor of the
project, but felt that it should not be assessed on a per unit
bas s as he has a very small lot with a cabin.
David Itse. 3630 Eileen Street, stated they would like to be
Included but objected to the required hookup. He said he would
like to tee the contingency fund returned to the property owners.
Don Gronberq. 110 Leaf Street, explained that there is a dam on
his property. He said he was one of the first to purchase a lot
In this erea, and when he did so the creek was not flooded. The
<jam wee installed with the blessings of the DNR in 1960-61. He
eteted that there is a valve that is used to release the water
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which may change the setbacks required t'‘ the creek. He asked If
the dam were to go out, who could be required to pay for
restoration. He asked that the Council further consider this
property with regards to setbacks and sewering. He stated the main
intent of the sewer project is to help clean up Lake Minnetonka and
wondered If the City couldn’t contribute more in light of this.
Mayor Peterson closed the public hearing at 7:45 p.m.
Jabbour asked if staff had looked into using CD6G funds to help
residents with lower income with the project.
Moorse explained that per Larry Blackstad, Coordinator of the
funds, there was potential to use some of that money and stated he
was to meet with Blackstad at the end of the week.
Mayor Peterson clarified that the money cannot be used to apply
towards the entire project.
Jabbour asked If the contingency could be divided and assigned to
specific areas, and If that area did not have any appeals, could
be refunded to those residents.
Qoetten stated that the money cannot be returned until the project
is completed.
Butler clarified that those In agreement with the project are
opposed to the Immediate hookup. She stated that deadline is set
by the Council but noted a date-certain would need to be
established. She did not care when that date was as long as it was
specified. Butler explained that when the project was bid, the
cost was determined. She said, “you do not go to the grocery store
and argue with the grocer over the price of a pound of butter".
The same principal applies to the sewer project.
Mayor Peterson and Jabbour agreed. Goetten said she agreed with
the philosophy but did not want the deadline date for connection
to be extended to 20 years and stated that the owner would need to
prove their septic system was working ♦o continue use.
Callahan felt that those In need of sewer should be required to
connect Immediately. He stated that staff should have the final
decision on whether a system is functioning and can continue to be
used. He noted that if a house Is sold, the owner should be
required to connect to sewer. He felt that 3-5 years for mandatory
hookup would be appropriate.
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Moorse agreed that parameters need to be established and suggested
staff draft ci'teria to determine If a system Is functioning
proper Iy.
Qaffron noted •■nat various conditions would need to be defined.
He Indicated tnat failure would include systems discharging to the
surface while non-conforming systems may be a system not
discharging to the surface but too close to the water table based
on f jl I borings. He stated that because of the new shoreland
regulations, the DNR ana PCA are saying that if an existing system
is too close to the wate^ table, it is a non-conforming system and
must be replaced within a year.
Jabbour stated that he urderstood that the PCA Is going to make a
conscious effort to pursue enforcement. He stated that !f the
project had been done a couple years ago when the water table was
lower the cost would have been much lower. He reminded the
residents that because of the City’s good bond rating, the City is
able to get a bond at a lower rate. He felt that they have a moral
obligation to continue with the project for the base area. He
Indicated ns would like to go ahead with the project excluding
Oxford Road .:‘'d Cygnet Place.
Qoetten felt that the criteria should be evaluated for areas not
to be Included. She asked If the trunk charge should be assessed
to the two areas excluded.
Jabbour asked If a new public hearing would be necessary to change
the assessr: t roll to Include only a trunk charge to those areas.
Barrstt stated the Council has given notice of the project at
certain dimensions. He stated that if reduced in scope or
assessment, the Council would need to order a reduced project by
resolution and that this assessment would be effective to pay for
that reduced project.
Butler suggested they decide on the time period for required hookup
as that may help those opposed to the project decide If they wished
to be included. She stated that the price cannot be changed as If
more is assessed City-wide to all taxpayers, there will be many
more In opposition to this project. She explained that the
proposed assessment wl I I mean a $5.00 to $25.00 per year/per parcel
for 16 year Increase to alI in Orono.
Jabbour said he did not care If the property was required to hookup
If sold.
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Callahan felt that It could easily happen that a future owner would
be unaware of the required hookup charge.
Barrett stated that Information would not have to be legally
disclosed. He Indicated that the on I y way to ensure the future
Qv^ner was Informed would be to tile a document against the chain
of title, however on torrens property that woUd be very difficu't.
He explained that future property owners would be subject to the
City ordinances In effect at that time.
Butler reviewed a memo by Gaffron entitled, "Extended period for
sewer connect ion", whereby the folIowing cond’tions were suggested:
1. All failing systems shall connect to the
immediately upon the availability of the sewer.
sewer
2. All systems determine to be non-conforming,
including those too near the water table and/or less than
75’ from the creek or lake and/or less than 50’ from a
well shall connect to the sewer within 16 months of Its
avaiIabI I Ity.
3. Any conforming funct'oning system constructed before
1/1/78 shall connect to the sewer within 16 months of Its
availability. Such systems will have had a useful service
life of 15 years or more.
4. Any conforming system constructed between 1/1/78 and 1/1/88
shall connect within 36 months of sewer availability or by
1/1/96, thus ensuring that such systems shall have had a
useful service life of between 8 and 17 years.
5. Any conforming system constructed after 1/1/88 shall
connect within 60 months of the date of availability or by
1/1/98, thus allowing a minimum of 6 years and up to 10 years
of useful service life for those systems.
6. Regardless of the above allowances, the sewer must be
connected upon any sale of the property served with sewer.
7. All properties regardless of connection status, start
paying the quarterly sewer charge at the end of the 16 month
standard connection period.
Shaw asked if he has a double mound septic system, but is currently
only using one of those, would ne be allowed to switch to use the
reflialning one before required to hookup.
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DeMeo said he has a non-conforming system, but it will
a couple hundred dollars to bring it into conformance.
If that would fall under the 5 year hookup scenario.
on Iy cost
He asked
Saffron stated that would have to be a policy decision whether or
not the CouncI I would allow updates to the current septic system
to allow additional usage of that system.
Jabbour felt that if the property doesn’t need sewer, the Issue
should not be pushed.
Mike McLaughlin, IQQ Leaf Street, asked what selling his home had
to do wIth the qua I Ity of the septic system. He said he has a large
Iot and does not need the sewer. He explained that he built the
house 5 years ago and was told at that time that sewer would not
be available to that property.
Bob MInkemna. .^^200 Bavside Road, felt that the quarterly service
charge to residents not hooked up is ridiculous.
Linda Whitman said that the life of a septic system is based In
part on the usage of the residents and maintenance. She would
prefer the Council establish a deadline for hookup when the syst».
faiIs.
Qnffron asked If properties using holding tanks would be requli.. 1
to hookup Immediately.
Jabbour said they should be required to hookup right away. Mayor
Peterson agreed.
Qaffron said the reason for suggesting that properties be required
to hookup upon a sale was because many parcels in this area are
sold on a Contract for Deed which do not Involve a mortgage
company.
Knight asked what date Is the deidllne based upon.
Butler Informed him that it is taken from the date of final
completion of the project.
It was moved by Mayor Peterson, seconded by Butler, to detenalne
that upon completion of the project, all parcels with a falling
eyetemehall connect Immediately and ell parcels determined to have
a non-conforming eyetem Including a system too close to a creek or
Igke shall connect within 16 months, and all other parcels are
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required to connect to sewer within 60 months unless deemed to have
a failing system prior to that date. Ayes 5. nays 0.
Mayor Peterson said she has a hard time agreeing with Condition #7.
Kuehn said the charge is a sewer aval IabiIity charge which is equal
to the quarterly blI IIng, which has been estabiished by ordinance.
Jabbour felt that amount should be established based
needed for maintenance.
on money
Barrett reviewed that the Counci I was only making policy decisions
on the project and would eventually need to amend the ordinances.
He stated the availability charge may have fiscal consequences if
deleted.
Ppb Provo. 220 Cygnet Place, asked if the $50.00 septic inspection
fee would still be charged.
Mayor Peterson clarified that it would not be charged to parce.s
connected.
01 I Ie Peterson asked how many years they would be paying on the
assessment.
Mayor Peterson explained the assessment is set for 15 years at 8X.
Moorse eA;>itt!ned that If the City gets a better interest rate, the
cost of tho project could be reduced.
Mayor Peterson called for a recess from 8:30 p.m. to 8:55 p.m.
Knight referred the Bederwood aree residents to the Council for
direct dialogue. He clarified that he was never critical of the
Council offering t.^ pay 30* of the project up front. He stated the
group he represents Is willing to settle for an assessment of
$10,500.00. He Informed members of his group that at some point
they would need to decide whether or not they wished to appeal.
He stated they have determined the fa r amount for the assessment
based upon the cost of a new septic system.
Linda Whitman Informed the Council that the Bederwood group wished
to be excluded from Mr. Knight’s group, and they wished to be a
part of the project. She expressed appreciation for the extension
of time for hookup. She stated the Bederwood residents wished to
retain their right to appeal.
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Jabbour said he did not understand now that it has been determined
that tha sewer needs to run down the street on Oxford Road, why the
residents should be assessed more as they do not derive a greater
benefit than other areas similar in appraised value to this area.
Cook stated that the street replacement is the major cost. He
noted the falling system could have been served by running the lino
across private property.
Jabbour asked how the City could perceive a greater benefit for
properties on Oxford Road than on Bederwood where there are 2 acre
lots also.
Cook explained there is more street to replace on Oxford Road.
Butler asked Cook if the Oxford Road portion of the trunk could be
Installed adjacent to the road on an easement across the front
yards.
Cook explained that the eouipment would still damage the road. He
stated the homeowners would have to agree to a lesser road, which
they have indicated would not be acceptable.
It was sioved by Jabbour, seconded by Goetten, to adopt the
assessment roll for the Stubbs Bay Sewer Project for all properties
excluding Cygnet Place, Oxford Road and Leaf Street. Ayes 5, nays
0.
It was moved by Callahan, seconded by Jabbour, to adopt the
remaining assessment roll for the Stubbs Bay Sewer Project for
properties on Cygnet Place, Oxford Road and Leaf Street. Ayes 3,
nays 2. Mayor Peterson and Butler voted nay. (Motion failed based
on the requirement for a 4/Sths vote.)
Callahan felt that the trunk charge should be assessed to
properties not 100% included in the project, and It was Indicated
by those residents that they wish to be included all or nothing.
Butler explained she voted nay because at the last meeting Mr.
Deter!ing reminded the Council of a petition with almost 100*
opposition to the project. She felt they should be charged for the
trunk charge and said that at some time In the future they may need
to have service and would then have to pay the remainder.
Mayor Peterson felt that Mr. Knight’s group should be allowed
additional time to consider the project.
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Knight asked If the current trunk charge of $5,650.00 would also
be reduced by the 30% proposed to be paid by the City.
Jabbour stated that the
participation.
30% was only offered for 100%
Qoetten reminded them that a future Council
discount the remaining amount.
may choose not to
Callahan stated that If the trunk charge is assessed, that area
would need to be made a part of a full project. He noted that the
residents have the 30 day appeal time to further study the project.
Jabbour explained that the Council has proceeded with its best
offer and would not reduce the assessment. He stated that it Is
expected to cost the City approximately $18,000.00 per house per
appeal.
Goetten noted that the Council Is concerned about the health,
safety and welfare of the residents and stated that If that is the
criteria for sewering an area, she hated to exclude anyone because
of the co^t.
Jabbour suggested they order the project to begin, and if at che
end of the 30 day appeal period It Is determined that thore are too
many appeals, drop that portion of the project.
It Mas Movad by Butler, seconded by Callahan, to assess the trunk
charge to the properties on Cygnet Place, Leaf Street and Oxford
Road. Ayes 3, nays 2. Mayor Peterson and Goetten voted nay.
Notion falled.
Butler explained that when the trunk line is laid along Bayside
Road, It will present Itself at the corner of Leaf Street and
County Road 84, which wi I I make It aval I able for connection for the
properties on Oxford Road, Leaf Street and Cygnet Place. She felt
that because of that availability, the trunk charge should be
assessed to those properties.
QQ^tten felt that by doing such would be doing the citizens In that
area a great disservice.
Deter IIng clarified that since the submittal of the petition
expressing opposition, the cost has been reduced, the DNR has
Imposed restrictive regulations, and many feel that sewer is
Inevitab Ie.
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meeting of the petition.
Gaffron clarified that Bayside East includes Leaf Street up to the
Luce Line. Cygnet Includes and the portion of Leaf north of the
Luce Line.
Deter I Ing noted that since that meeting, many have had a change of
heart.
Cathy St. Lawrence. 253 Cygnet
the petition the situation has
t be a part t'f tne project.
Place, said that since she signed
changed, and said they would like
Brian Ehalt. 140 Leaf Street, asked if his wife’s name could be
removed from the petition. He suggested City staff review each
eyetem on Cygnet Place and let people know how their system is
doing.
Gaffron said he would be happy to meet with the owners to discuss
their system.
ffleo Bloominqdale. 145 Cygnet Place, noted they had signed the
petition but the situation has changed drastically s nee then and
have since decided they wish to be Included v«lth the project. She
stated that the price of the service Is not equitable.
Pat Crane noted at the last meeting a vast majority of those in
attendance wanted sewer but objected to the price. He felt that
the Council has gotten Itself into a box by expanding upon the base
price and adding the lateral cost to additional areas.
Jabbour explained that the assessment was based upon an appraisal
of wht . would hold in court. The appraisal was done on a
neighborhood basis.
prane said his house Is on the other side of Leaf Street. The
other side of the street is being assessed $8,800 and he is being
assessed $13,000. He felt this Is unfair. He stated the entire
area should have been assessed one unit price pe^* household to be
fair.
Jabbour Indicated that there would be no way in court to defend
tf^st type of assessment as the smal I house on Lake Street Is not
worth as much nor does it have as much potential as the homes on
larger lots.
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Moors® explained that they also charged areas costs specific to
that area.
It was moved by Jabbour, seconded by Goetten, to adopt Resolution
•3121 approving the entire assessment roll as proposed for the
Stubbs Bay Sewer Project. Ayes 4, nays 1. Mayor Peterson voted
nay. Motion passed.
Barrett explained that owners may need to be renotifled to amend
the roll at the end of the 30 day appeal period if determined that
the roll will change.
ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Mayor Peterson, seconded by Butler,
Continuation of the Public Hearing for the Stubbs
at 9:45 p.m. Ayes 5, nays 0.
to adjourn the
Bay Assessment
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Mayor and City Council
//IRon Moorse, City Administrator
DATR:May 15, 1992
SUBJECT: Stubbs Bay Sewer Project Assessment Hearing
The continuation of the May 4 hearing will be held at 7:00 p.ir.
on May 18 in Rooa 115 and 1S7L Orono Education Link. The
cafeteria was not available. I have attached the agenda from the
May 4 assessment hearing. Items 1 through 7 have been completed.
The Council continued action on the adoption of the assessment
resolution. This is the only agenda item the Council is required
to address. The Council is not required to reopen the public
hearing portion of the meeting for additional public comments.
However, the Council may oo so if it so desires.
X have attached a copy of the assessment
additional materials to assist the Council
process.
resolution and
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STUBBS BAY SEWER PROJECT ASSESSMENT HEARING
MONDAY, MAY 4, 1992, 7:00 P.M.
ORONO HIGH SCHOOL CAFETERIA
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AGENDA
Mayor Opens the Hearing
Sununary of Project Need
Summary of Project Design
Summary of Project Benefit
Summary of Assessment Financing
Public Comment
Closing of Hearing
Council Considers the Adoption of the Assessment
Resolution
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A RESOLUTION ADOPTING STUBBS BAY SANITARY SEWER
ASSESSMENT ROLL
HHERBASr pursuant to proper notice duly given as
required by law, the Council nas met and heard and passed upon
all objections to the proposed assessment for the improvement of
sanitary sewer in the Stubbs Ray Area.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF
ORONO, MINNESOTA:
1.Such proposed assessment, a copy of which is attached
hereto and made a part hereof, is hereby accepted and
shall constitute the special assessment against the
lands named therein, and each tract of land therein
included is hereby found to be benefited by the proposed
improvement in the amount of the assessment levied
against it.
2.Such assessment shall be payable in equal annual
installments extending over a period of 15 years, the
first of the installments to be payable on or before the
first Monday in January, 1993 and shall bear interest at
the rate of 8 per cent per annum from the date of the
adoption of this assessment resolution. To the first
installment shall be added interest on the entire
assessment from the date of this resolution until
December 31, 1992. To each subsequent installment when
due shall be added interest foi one year on all unpaid
installements.
3.The owner of any property so assessed may, at any time
prior to certification of the assessment to the county
auditor, pay the whole of the assessment on such
property, with interest accrued to the date of payment,
to the city treasurer, except that no interest shall be
charged if the entire assessment is paid within 30 days
from the adoption of this resolution; and he may, at any
time thereafter, pay to the city treasurer the entire
amount of the assessment remaining unpaid, with interest
accrued to December 31 of the year in which such payment
is made. Such payment must be made before November 15
or interest will be charged through December 31 of the
next succ-'edlng year. Partial prepayment may be allowed
in accordance with ordinances which are existing or
which the City may choose to adopt in the future.
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4.The clerk shall forthwith transmit a certified duplicate
of this assessment to the county auditor to be extended
on the property tax lists of the county. Such
assessments shall be collected and paid over in the same
manner as other municipal taxes.
Adopted by the Council this 18th day of May, 1992.
Barbara A. Peterson, Mayor
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SUBJECT: Assessment Alternatives Concerninq Cyqnet and Leaf
Streets and Oxford Road Exclusion from the Stubbs Pay
Sewer Project
I have attached information showinq the affect of exclusion of
Cygnet and Leaf and/or Oxford from the Stubbs Bay sewer project
on the City's share of the project costs.
The information indicates that if the City picks up 100% of the
Cygnet and Leaf share of the trunk costs, the City's
participation rate would increase from 30% to 32%. If the City
picks up 100% of the Cygnet, Leaf and Oxford share of th? trunk
cost, the City's participation rate would increase to 33%.
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FROM: Michael P. Gaffron, Asst. Planninq s. Zoning Administrator
May 13, 1992
80BJECT: Analysis and Proposal - Extended Period for Sewer Connection
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A. Section 9.02 Sub. 1 - "Sewer Connection Required"
B. Section 12.30 Sub. 4 B1 - "16 Month" Requirement
I. Analysis
The appellants represented by Michael Knight request an indefinite
extension of the deadline for connection to sewer. Current city code
requires that all properties served with sewer connect to that sewer
within 16 months of its availability. The appellants contend that in
many cases where they have recently constructed new septic systems,
they should be able to get some reasonable period of use from those
systems before having to abandoned chem and connect to sewer.
On the face of it, this is a reasonable request. However, if no
arbritary deadline is set, the city staff will ultimately have to argue
the fine points of whether a given system has reached a fai lure or non
conformity level that demands sewer connection. From a purely
administrative standpoint, when push comes to shove it is much easier
to argue that "city policy requires you to hook up by a certain
deadline and that is all there is to it" than to attempt to convince a
property owner that the system is non-conforming.
Mr. Knight also indicated that it might be reasonable to allow the
property owner's economics to dictate whether he connects to the sewer
or repaILS/replaces his system when the city determins that it is non-
conforming. Assuming that the property owner is paying sewer
assessments and the quarterly sewer charge, the economics likely would
work in the city's favor, and in most situations connecting to the
sewer would be cheaper than system repairs.
One downside of not having a definite deadline is that 20 years down
the road and three homeowners later, nobody w; 11 remember whether or
not the sewer has been connected, when I first started with Orono in
1978, ray first task was to go through 1,500 street files to determine
which properties served with sewer had not yet connected. I found more
than 100, dating back as much as 15 years before that time. It took
another 5 years to finally get the bulk of that list connected. We
need to avoid such activity in the future.
II. Proposed Sewer Connection Period Extension.
Based on some of the concerns noted above, the following may be a
reasonable if not somewhat complex policy for sewer connections:
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1. All failing systems shall connect to the sewer immediately
upon its availability.
2. All systems determined to be non-conforming (including
those too near the watertable and/or less than 75' from the
creek or lake and/or less than 50' from a well) shall connect
to the sewer within 16 months of its availability.
3. Any "code" or "conforming" functional system constructed
prior to January 1, 1978 (the approximate effective date of
contemporary septic codes) shall connect to the sewer within
16 months of its availability. Such systems will have had a
useful service life of 15 years or more.
4. Any "code" or "conforming" system constructed between
January 1, 1978 and January 1, 1988 shall connect within 36
months of sewer availability or by January 1, 1996, thus
ensuring that such systems have had a useful service life of
between 8 and 17 years.
5. Any "code" or "conforming" system constructed after
January 1, 1988 shall connect within 60 months of the date of
availability, or by January 1, 1998, thus allowing a minimum
of 6 years and up to as many as 10 years of useful service
life for those systems.
6. Regardless of the above allowances, the sewer must be
connected upcn any sale of a property served with sewer.
7. All properties, regardless of connection status, start
paying the quarterly sewer charge at the end of the 16 month
standard connection period.
To maki some sense out of the various deadMne dates, staff would
draft a resolution listing deadline dates for individual properties,
for Council adoption. However, in order to create such a list, the
system conformities need to be verified. This means that soil borings
and interpretation must occur on every property to determine whether
the existing system meets the vertical seasonal watertable separation.
While staff has the expertise to do such borings and interpretation,
any homeowner likely find a consultant who would dispute staff's
findings leading to conflicts. (We are wrestling with this issue in
all of the shoreland areas, not just Stubbs Ray, and are currently
assembling information from other jurisdictions ?s to how they are
approaching this issue).
The above sewer connection policy proposal is offered for discussion
purposes only at this time. Given my druthers, I would prefer to make
it much more simple by merely requiring Immediate connection for
failing systems and a one or two year extension of the 16 month period
for all other connections. However, such a proposal would likely not
be viewed as a compromise by the appellants.
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Ron Moorse» City Administrator
Michael P. Gaffron, Asst. Planninq & Zoning Administrator
May 13, 1992
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SUBJECT: Greg Ehalt Letter - Vacant Lot
Analysis of His Claims
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Exhibit A - Ehalt Letter and Sketch
Exhibit B - Staff Sketch witn Topography Overlay and
Drainfield Site Potentials
In Ehalt's third paragraph, his analysis of our discussion is
• lightly skewed. We indicated that his only hope is to prove to the
Council that he had a buildable lot meeting all the setbacks without
the sewer, and perhaps the Council would then consider a reduction in
the assessment.
Based on Mr. Ehalt*s sketch, which is not to scale, I remain
absolutely unconvinced that this lot uuildable today with only a
lot area variance. I would make the following co^anents:
1. The topographic overlay was in our files, apparently done
about fifteen years ago. I would not vouch for its absolute
accuracy, but it does indicate generally the slope
percentages and directions on the property.
2. Based on my drawing, I would argue that his 35' wide
proposed house could only be 30' deep on the left side, 35'
on the right side, and still meet the 50* front setback and
100* creek setback. This yields a 1,000 s.f. house under
his scenario.
3. He has not included the required 20' setbacks from the
drainfield to the house. Once these are accounted for,
drainfield area "A" is 40*x90', with the slope from 6-14%
running absolutely perpendicular to the rock bed. The rock
bed cannot be placed above original grade having an end-to-
end slope of more than 2%, the average grade under this rock
bed would be 6%, making this rite with this orientation
absolutely unusable.
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4. Drainfield "B", after the 20' setback is removed is 60'x80’,
with slopes running diagonally through the site. Slopes
range from 6% (Orono's absolute upper limit for the original
slope underneath a mound) to 20% or more. A mound system
oriented correctly with the topography would either encroach
within inches of the house, or would have to be pushed to
the left into an area with 10-12% slopes, again too steep
for a mound system.
5.Based on the information above, it is my opinion that Ehalt
has at best one conformining drainfield site, not two, even
without the issue of house placement coming into the
picture.
6.If one were to designate the one conforming drainfield site
as the primary, and grant slope variances for a secondary
site at the front right corner of the lot (which is the only
other half way reasonable location for a secondary site),
then you would absolutely be forced to grant variances to
the 100* unsewered creek setback required as part of our
recent Shoreland Ordinance. Prior to the ordinance, it
likely would have been feasible to locate a house in the
back half of the property still meeting the 26* wetland
setback and the 20* mound system setback.
7.The soil survey indicates Kilkenny loam soils at this site.
It has been my experience that this soil type generally is
not suitable for trench type drainfield systems, but
normally mound systems will work adequately if located on
relatively flat areas, i.e. slopes of 6% or flatter.
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No attempt has been made by Mr. Ehalt to have a prof ess iona 1 site
evaluator determine the legitimate feasibility of drainfield sites on
this property. His inaccurate sketch and lack of system design detail
is absolutely inadequate to prove anything about the buildability of
this property.
I would argue that unless the actual site topography is
significantly different than what is shown in our files, it will be
impossible for Mr. Ehalt or his consultant to come up with a site plan
that shows two conforming drainfield sites, and a house location
***ting current zoning standards. Further, even if the structural
setback from the creek was relaxed, there appears to be only one
conforming drainfield site on the property, not two. This lot in my
opinion would not meet the current requirements for buildability
without sewer.
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Way 11, 1992
flayer Barb Peterson
Ed Callahan
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Hary Butler
Subject I Contested SeMer Assesment PID #04-117-23220009
X *ve owned an empty lot adjacent to my residence at 103 Cygnet Place for
the past 32 years. !iy intention has always been to use this for my
retirement home.
Hy sewer assessment on this lot is #10,880. The Hennepin County 199S
evaluation notice is only #24,100. This assessment equals 70% of the
value which I believe to be totally unfair.
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In discussing this with Harlen Olson and Mike Gaffron, they indicated
that if I could show the council that this is a buildable lot meeting all
the setbacks without a sewer this lot should have the same assessment as
all the other lots on Cygnet Place.
The attached layout shows my proposed home located on the lot within the
100 foot (DNR) setback from the water and 30 feet from the street.
Notice there is space for two alternate drainfield sites.
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Based on this X contest that this lot was perfectly buildable without
seesr therefore it should be considered as benefitting only to the same
degree as currently developed lots.
Sincerely,
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Ron, Moorse, City Administrator \
May 18, 1992
Subjects Stubbs Bay Sewer Assessment Hearing Issues
Following is a discussion of a number of issues which may
need to be addressed at tonight's hearing.
1. The proposal of the organized appeal group. The proposal
submitted by the attorney representing Cygnet, Leaf, Oxford,
Bederwood and Bayside North involves two main points:
A, All assessments be reduced tc the $8,840.00 level.
B. No time limit for connection to the new system.
Staff has indicated that if the City decides to add some
flexibility to the connection time limit, it would have to be
within a set of clear parameters. Also, this flexibility would
not include non-conforming systems. The Council has received a
memo ftom Mike Gaffron setting out some possible parameters
concerning a connection schedule.
Although the general level of assessments for these areas is
relatively high, the assessments do reflect a substantial
reduction from the actual cost of the project.
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Bayside Nort
Oxford
Cygnet & Leaf
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23,360
18,880
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A reduction to the $8,840 assessment level would require the
City to fund well over 50% of the cost for all appealing areas
except Bayside North, for which the City's share would be 46.6%.
It may be argued that the total project costs should be
assessed equally over all project properties since all are
receiving the same sewer service. Staff believes the most fair
and equitable method of assessment is to charge individual areas
those costs directly related to providing them with sewer
••J^vice, i.e. laterals, and to share the costs related to
bringing the sewer to the area, i.e. trunk. In addition, a
number of items specific to certain areas but beyond lateral
costa are included in the trunk charge so that they are shared
across the entire project area. These are as follows:
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The Bederwood area requires a lift station that serves
only their area. The estimated cost of this lift
station is $69,000. This cost has been included in the
trunk charge so that it is shared across the entire
project area. If this cost was born only by the
Bederwood area, the Bederwood assessment amount would
increase by $4,400.
The Cygnet and Leaf Street area has a number of very
low areas. There were two alternatives for serving
these areas. One alternative was to install at least
one lift station. The other alternative was to design
the trunk line at a greater depth to eliminate the need
for lift stations. The deeper trunk line was the
selected alternative. The additional cost of the
deeper trunk is being shared across the entire project
area. This means the base area, which has most of the
project units, is paying the greatest share of this
cost.
If the total project costs were divided by the total
project units, the total cost per unit would be
$15,313.00. A 70% assessment rate would translate to a
$10,719 assessment amount. Although this sharing of
costs across the project area would significantly
reduce the assessments for several areas, it would also
have substantially increased the assessments for the
base area which is already subsidizing the other
project areas.
Although the Bederwood area is appealing the level of
their assessment, theirs is the area that benefits most
by being included in the project at this time versus
waiting until some future time. This is due to the
Bederwood area's need for a lift station at a cost of
$69,000. This is included in the trunk cost which
means the Bederwood area pays only 8% of the lift
station cost. If they were not included in the
project, the lift station would be eliminated from the
project. Then when Bederwood needed to obtain sewer
service, they would pay the full cost of the lift
station since there would not be any other areas to
share the cost. At a 70% assessment rate the lift
station would cost each property $4,400.
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4.405 and 400 Oxford Road, There are two properties
which abut both Oxford Road and Baysice Road. If the
Oxford area was not included in the project, these two
properties would be included in the project because
they are adjacent to the trunk line and as such they
would be assessed at a rate of $8,840.00. If the
Oxford area is included in the project, they are to be
included with the Oxford area with an assessment of
$14,990.00. They have argued that it is unfair to be
lumped into the higher cost area.
Although it may seem that these two properties are being
treated unfairly, the inclusion of Oxford Road in the project
does provide additional benefits to these properties. These
properties are paying the same assessment as the other Oxford
properties which receive similar benefits.
The additional benefits and higher costs are both related to
the reconstruction of Oxford Road. The actual cost of the road
is approximately $9,000.00 per unit. Because the City is funding
35*6% of the total cost, the Oxford residents would pay
approximately $5,800.00. The existing road is 14 years old. It
will need to be replaced in less than 10 years. The cost to
replace the road will continue to increase each year. If the
Oxford Homeowners Association did this project on its own, it
would pay the total cost and would not be able to finance the
project over 15 years at 8%.
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Ron, Moorse, City Administrator
May 18, 1992
Subjects Corrected Information Concerning the City's Costs
Related to the Exclusion of Cygnet and T^eaf Streets
The exclusion of Cygnet Place and Leaf Street from the
Stubbs Bay project would affect the City’s costs in terms of both
lateral costs and the trunk costs.
Lateral Costs
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assessment.
If Cygnet
these costs
The lateral costs for Cygnet Place and Leaf
$541,230.00. Under the Council's proposed method of
the City's share of these costs would be $162,369,00
Place and Leaf Street were excluded from the project,
would be eliminated. However, these costs would reappear at the
point in the future when the laterals are extended to serve
Cygnet and Leaf. Also at that time there will be pressure on the
City to participate in the cost.
Trunk Costs
There is no reduction in trunk costs related to the
elimination of Cygnet and Leaf. In order for the City's share of
trunk costs to remain as currently proposed, Cygnet and Leaf
would need to be assessed for 70% of the trunk charge. If Cygnet
and Leaf were excluded from the project and not assessed for the
trunk costs, the City's costs related to the trunk would increase
by $118,650.
It is important that if Cygnet and Leaf are to be excluded
from the project they continue to be assessed for their share of
the trunk costs at the 70% assf'ssment rate.
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Subjects Stubbs Bay Sewer Assessment Alternative
The City is currently participating in the cost of the
Stubbs Bay project at a 30% rate. This rate of pa^^ticipation has
been sufficient to limit the number of ai^peals from the base
project area to a very small percentage. Othe'* are&s believe the
assessments are too high. Three alternatives available to the
Council concerning those areas are as follows:
1* Adopt the proposed assessments and deal with the appeals.
2. Exclude these areas from the project.
3, Consider reducing assessments to a more acceptable level.
TL.i Council has indicated that the project c:ost includes a
$100,000 contingency amount that could be used to reduce
assessments if the City's legal fees rexated to easements and
appeals are limited. If this entire amount were available, it
could be used to reduce assessments by approximately $700 per
unit. As part of the process to reach agreement on assessment
amounts, the Council may want to tie a reduction in assessments
to the provision of appeal waivers and agreements to provide
easements at no cost to the City, The following table shows the
affect of two assessment alternatives on the City ’s total project
participation.
Area
Current
Assessmen
64%
Assessment
61%
Assessment
Bederwood
Oxford
Cygnet 6 Leaf
$ 12,990
14,990
12,995
$ 12,512
14,950
12,083
$ 11,925
14,250
11,517
City Participation
(total project cost)
Dollars
%
629,400
30
662,378
31.6
692,156
33
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