HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-25-2023 City Council Minutes MINUTES OF THE
ORONO CITY COUNCIL MEETING
September 25,2023
6:00 o'clock p.m.
ROLL CALL
The Orono City Council met on the above-mentioned date with the following members present: Mayor
Dennis Walsh,City Council Members Matt Johnson,Alisa Benson,and Maria Veach.Absent: Richard
Crosby III.Representing Staff were City Administrator/Engineer Adam Edwards,Finance Director Ron
Olson, Community Development Director Laura Oakden, City Planner Melanie Curtis, City Planner
Natalie Nye and Park Director Josh Lemons.
Mayor Walsh called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.,followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda was approved by consensus.
CONSENT AGENDA
1. CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 11,2023
2. COUNCIL WORK SESSION MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 11,2023
3. CLAIMS/BILLS
4. APPROVAL OF RENTAL LICENSE
5. APPROVAL TO HIRE FULL TIME ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT—JOSEPH
RUTHENBERG
6. APPROVAL TO PROMOTE PUBLIC WORKS MAINTENANCE WORKER—JUSTIN
MIELKE
7. APPROVAL TO HIRE FULL TIME PUBLIC WORKS MAINTENANCE WORKER—
HUNTER GILLE
8. APPROVAL TO HIRE FULL TIME PUBLIC WORKS MAINTENANCE WORKER—
SCOTT LORETZ
9. APPROVAL TO ACCEPT DONATION—PERMANENT COATING SOLUTIONS—
RESOLUTION NO.7395
10. APPROVAL OF NEXT WORK SESSION AGENDA
11. LA23-000042,ALISON HOUSTON,4731 NORTH SHORE DRIVE,VARIANCE—
RESOLUTION NO.7404
This item was removed from the consent agenda.
Johnson moved,Veach seconded,to approve the Consent Agenda with Item 11 removed.VOTE:
Ayes 4,Nays 0.
PRESENTATION
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12. HOPE CHEST FOR BREAST CANCER FOUNDATION
Maureen Scallen Failor,Executive Director of the Hope Chest for Breast Cancer Foundation,gave a
presentation to the City Council. She said she was the new director,having just passed six months.Prior
to this position she worked with Chambers of Commerce for 15 years and she said she has a deep respect
for City Council service. She came to put a face with the name and share about what is taking place over
at the Foundation. She added she hoped they were all familiar with the retail store on Shoreline Drive.
Hope Chest was funded under premise that no one should have to go through breast cancer alone.Funds
are raised to help patients with basic necessities like gas and groceries,mortgage,car payments or rent.
She said the Foundation's grant recipients aren't as lucky as she was when diagnosed with stage three
lung cancer in 2001. She had great health insurance through her employer and time off from work. She
explained the majority of their patients don't have that as 78 percent are primary income earners; 73
percent have household incomes of less than$50,000;and 42 percent have incomes of less than$25,000.
They have an average of four dependents.Hope Chest Foundation has been around since 2001, she said.
Its founder,Barbara Hensley,felt very compelled to do something after losing two sisters to breast cancer
in the 1990s when treatments were not what they are today. The first retail store was in the basement of
Wayzata Community Church. Since its inception Hope Chest has made$2.5 million in patient grants and
5,700 individuals have received grants. Unfortunately,breast cancer is here to stay,she said,and the need
is urgent and now. They feel very strongly about the importance of fundraising and the work done at retail
store.Many organizations are seeking funding for a variety of needs and they can't rest on their laurels,
she said. Community outreach is important.They are seeing higher rates of cancer in women under 40
and it is important to promote mammograms.Early detection is the key. Of the patients served,73 percent
are from the metro area and the rest from outstate. She noted October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month
and they have a number of events coming up.
13. MEDIACOM UPDATE
Therese Sunde,Director of Government Relations for Mediacom,told the Council she was with
Mediacom when they negotiated the franchise agreement when Orono decided to leave Lake Minnetonka
Cable Commission and go on own.The agreement is up for renewal at the end of the year and can be
amended or the City can do a five-year extension.The agreement is on cable TV only although Mediacom
does have broadband. Orono does not have a local access channel through Mediacom,she said.
Zach Raskovich, Director of Operations, said he came to this market in 2015 right after the agreement
with Orono was made. He said investments in infrastructure have never stopped with continuous building
out of fiber and coax for longer extensions into more remote areas.Maintenance really kicked off with
COVID,he said, as people went to work at home and they had to deeply invest to meet the need. The City
is a five percent partner,he said.Mediacom knows that the number of video customers is declining. It is a
national trend,he said,as people turn to other ways to get TV service.Many cities are asking about how
that impacts their budget.He said the interne side of business is his focus.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT REPORT
11. LA23-000042,ALISON HOUSTON,4731 NORTH SHORE DRIVE,VARIANCE—
RESOLUTION NO.7404
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City Planner Nye explained this is a variance for a bluff setback that the Council reviewed at its last
meeting and approved with the stipulation that the build does not encroach any further into bluff. The
applicant came back with a redesign of the project to meet that direction,she said.
Benson said she asked to have it removed from the consent agenda because she voted against it last time
because she was in agreement with staff to deny the application.
Veach moved,Johnson seconded,to adopt LA22-000042,4731 North Shore Drive,Variance—
Resolution No.7404.VOTE: Ayes 3,Nays 1(Benson).
14. LA23-000026,ESKUCHE DESIGN O/B/O DAN MARTINSON& HEIDI MARTINSON,
2605 NORTH SHORE DR,VARIANCES
City Planner Curtis said the application is for a house addition within the 75-foot lake setback,a new in-
ground swimming pool,new retaining walls,a stone fence/wall, stairs,walkways,as well as a number of
hardcover changes to the site within the 75-foot setback. Since the planning commission's review,the
applicant has made changes and submitted amended plans. Specifically,the addition to the home has been
removed,the pool has been relocated to be behind the 75-foot setback from the lake but is still
approximately 30-feet from the inlet, and some of the proposed hardcover improvements have been
adjusted. The applicant is no longer proposing to enclose the area under the deck which would have been
an enlargement of the building footprint.The planning commission requested clarification regarding the
hardcover levels specifically within the 75-foot setback. The pool is set back 30 feet from the inlet and
approximately 29 feet from the wetland where 75-foot(lake& inlet)and 25-foot(wetland)setbacks are
required. The pool location has been adjusted within the existing driveway hardcover;however,the pool
is a new accessory structure and is considered an expansion within the 75-foot setback. The pool patio is
set back 19 feet from the inlet and 15 feet from the wetland where a 75-foot setback and/or 25-foot
wetland setback are required. The"existing"boulder retaining walls on the lakeside of the home appear to
have been recently installed in the place of the one-foot-tall timber border. The wall replacement approval
may have been included in one of the previously approved variances for the property,however,there is
no record of a permit for the new boulder walls. The approximately two-foot-tall boulder walls were
replaced in a different location slightly further from the lake than the timber border. The boulder walls are
an expansion of the existing condition in footprint, location, and height. The existing lake access stair is
being replaced by a new stair 38 feet from the lake(this is a permitted improvement). The proposed
driveway configuration has reverted back to the existing condition with a looped design. The walkway to
the pool area has also been modified; and new hardcover expansions are proposed within the 75-foot
setback including walkways,pool,and pool patio where no hardcover is permitted. On August 21,the
Planning Commission held a public hearing. Following the public hearing,the Planning Commission
voted 5—0 on a motion for denial as applied. The Commission provided specific feedback regarding the
location of the pool. The Commission felt that it was important that the pool meet the 75-foot setback
from the main open water of Lake Minnetonka,which resulted in the amended plans.No comments from
the public were received on this application. Planning Staff recommends denial because it would be an
accessory structure within the 75-foot setback.
Peter Eskuche of Eskuche Design said the design takes the driveway area and converts it to a pool and
adds an accessory garage to move the cars from the lake.The entire house is in the 75-foot setback so it is
a difficult area to add any recreation,he said. The pool is proposed in an area that is already hard-cover.
Planning Commission seemed to approve the pool if pushing it back to 75 feet from the lake.He said the
retaining walls are needed but the applicant is willing to remove the six-foot tall stone wall.
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Johnson asked about hard cover being removed.
Eskuche said a generator and air conditioner units are proposed to be moved to the right side of the house
and that hardcover space used for a patio. He said when the applicants submitted for a variance three
years ago all the walls toward the lake were timber with plastic underneath. That was all removed. The
main thing is conversion of driveway to pool reducing hardcover by about 3.6 percent.
Johnson noted there are a lot of moving parts to this proposal. There is a need to address walls that were
put in without permits.
Curtis explained the walls were allowed by the variance but did not have a permit and needs an after-the-
fact permit. That is a staff action.
Walsh said he has no problem converting hardcover but the pool would be the addition of a structure.
Johnson said he thought the applicant did a better job of locating the pool where there is existing
hardcover and removing other hardcover. When it comes to removal of air conditioners,he said he would
support exchange of hardcover but not an addition.He would not have supported the six-foot wall,he
said.
Benson said she agreed with the staffs recommendation to deny the application based on a lack of
practical difficulty.
Johnson moved,Veach seconded,to draft an approval resolution in part for LA23-000026,2605
North Shore Drive,variances,to include the location of the pool,the removal of all the hardcover
proposed to be removed and the moving of the air conditioner units,and denial of the six foot stone
wall and any additional retaining walls and that the applicant provide an updated plan conforming
to the approval.VOTE: Ayes 3,Nays 1 (Benson).
15. LA22-000064,LEBRISIA IVERSEN,4448 NORTH SHORE DRIVE,VARIANCE—
RESOLUTION NO.7403
City Planner Nye said the City Council first reviewed this application at the July 10,2023 City Council
meeting. The Council reviewed a two-story addition with a rooftop terrace above the second story. The
proposal also included a new deck on the lakeside of the home.The Council was not supportive of the
project as applied and provided feedback to the applicant.The Council identified the difficulty of the
small lot and working with a nonconforming building,however,the height of the addition was not
supported due to the amount of massing. The Council did not support the new lake deck and stair as they
were not in favor of any new expansion lakeward. The Council discussed some support of a one-story
addition in the same footprint as the existing deck on the north side of the home. The initial application
was not supported by staff and received a split recommendation from the Planning Commission with a
vote of 2 to 3 to approve as applied. The applicant has chosen to amend their application by removing the
proposed deck on the lake side of the home and reducing the height of the addition. The revised plans
show a one-story addition with a similar footprint to that of the existing deck in that location. The
addition has been reduced in height and size. However,the revised addition has a decreased side yard
setback from the previous iteration. The applicant has provided a revised letter from that impacted
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neighbor indicating support of the revised plans.The proposed addition is four feet from the side property
line matching the existing setback of the current deck.The previous plan had a proposed setback of 8.2
feet from the side property line. The revised plans decrease the overall height of the addition and have
pulled the massing away from the lake. The revised plans have also further reduced hardcover by 86
square feet. The amended plans require variances from the average lakeshore setback,75-foot setback,
hardcover,hardcover within the 75-foot setback and side yard setback,however the overall impact of the
addition from the lake has improved. Staff is supportive of the revised proposal due to the reduction in
massing with the proposed one-story addition and the revised footprint of the addition as it is consistent
with the existing deck and has overall less impact to the lake than the original proposal. Staff
recommends approval of the amended plans because they have removed the lakeside deck and maintained
the hardcover footprint and there are practical difficulties with the size of the lot.
Andrew Iverson,the applicant,thanked Council members for doing a site visit and said they had tried to
work within the recommendations and pulled back from some of the big dreams they had.The proposed
addition covers the existing deck which is 50 years old.
Johnson said he was concerned about the increase of structure in the setback.
Walsh stated there was practical difficulty because of the size of the lot. It would not be possible to allow
the height originally proposed,he added.
Veach moved,Johnson seconded,to adopt LA22-000064,4448 North Shore Drive,Variances,
Resolution No.7403.VOTE: Ayes 4,Nays 0.
City Planner Oakden said coming to the end of summer the City is busy with permits and getting projects
done.They are working on six proposals and legal notices and have been doing trainings in the
department.
RECESS& RECONVENE
Mayor Walsh recessed the meeting at 7:20 p.m. The meeting was reconvened at 7:25 p.m.
FINANCE DIRECTOR REPORT
16. REDUCE DEBT LEVY REQUIREMENT SERIES 2014A—RESOLUTION NO. 7405
Finance Director Olson said this action is a precursor to adopting the tax levy.According to law,the City
has to budget 105 percent of requirements for debt levy.At the end of a debt fund's life there is always
money left over and the City can transfer the overage to the facilities fund levy.
Benson said she understands the City typically waits until a debt is retired before moving any overages.
This debt fund,she said, still has four or five years before it is paid off and she questions taking money
from a fund where there is still debt to support the Fire Department. It would seem, she said,that the Fire
Department cannot be funded without making these kinds of financial moves that have not been normal
practice for the City. This transfer would not be necessary if not for standing up that department. She said
she did not feel it is fiscally responsible to take money from a debt that still needs to be paid.
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Walsh said it is fiscally responsible to budget for equipment replacement on a regular basis and this has
been done for police and public works.He said it is responsible when the City has money available in
funds where it will not be used to budget for these purposes.
Olson said the City still has the funds to pay what it owes on the 2014 bond and would be reducing the
levy for it one time because of already having the funds.
Walsh moved,Johnson seconded,to adopt Resolution No. 7405 for the Reduce Debt Levy
Requirement Series 2014A. VOTE: Ayes 3,Nays 1(Benson)
17. ADOPT 2024 PRELIMINARY TAX LEVY—RESOLUTION NO. 7406
Walsh explained that these are maximum amounts being adopted tonight. The City will adopt the final
levy in December but cannot go higher than the amount set in September.
Finance Director Olson added public comment would be received at the Truth in Taxation hearing on
Nov. 27 and the final levy would be adopted at the Dec. 11,2023 meeting.He took the Council through
the proposed general fund revenue and expenditure budget/levy line by line in a Power Point.The overall
increase is proposed at 4.94 percent.The preliminary levy proposed this evening is$9,415,100,he said,
and compared to 2023 it is an increase of$1,028,100 or 12.3 percent.
Benson said the total for Orono Fire is $1.4 million which is 15 percent of the total tax levy for 2024. She
said portions of some other funds are also related to the Orono Fire Department.If the costs for the Fire
Department were not in the budget,taxes would be reduced on each home, she said.
Walsh said that is a good point.The City could also reduce the amount for roads or public works and
taxes would go down,he said. The purchases for the Fire Department need to be made whether for a new
Orono Fire Department or the Long Lake Fire Department because this has not been done,he said.
Benson said she agrees that fire has been underfunded in the past but feels that could have been rectified
without starting a new department.
Johnson moved,Veach seconded,to adopt Resolution 7406 for the 2024 Preliminary Tax Levy.
VOTE: Ayes 3,Nays 1(Benson)
18. ADOPT 2024 PRELIMINARY GENERAL FUND BUDGET—RESOLUTION NO. 7407
Benson said again,this action to adopt the preliminary general fund budget includes the Orono Fire
Department which is a costly venture directly impacting the general fund budget for 2024 including using
a one-time public services grant. She explained how she arrived at the total for$1.4 million in the budget
for the Fire Department.
Walsh said the decision was made to allocate the grant to the Fire Department because the other
departments are now properly funded and fire is where there is a need.
Veach said she felt it was very important to bring up the real costs and the cost per household and be
honest about it. She said the State of Minnesota ranks near the bottom of spending for Fire Departments.
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It is a department that has needed attention for a long time,but she thought it could have come about in a
more smooth way.
Walsh moved,Johnson seconded,to adopt Resolution 7407 for the 2024 Preliminary General Fund
Budget.VOTE: Ayes 3,Nays 1 (Benson).
19. ADOPT 2024 LONG LAKE FIRE OPERATING BUDGET
Finance Director Olson said the City had received a fire budget from Long Lake with a significant
increase due to the use of duty crews. They are using a different model for duty crews than is planned in
Orono,but it does result in an increase. Orono's share of the 2024 budget as proposed is$665,097,an
increase of$121,097(22 percent)over the 2023 budget.
Veach reported on the Fire Advisory Board meeting she had attended. She said Long Lake is using duty
crews on certain days and it is enabling them to get a lot done around the fire hall when they are not on
calls. It would cost about$85,000 to staff duty crews 80 percent of the time, according to the Long Lake
Chief. There was discussion about the possibility of reducing costs by using the services of Orono Chief
Van Eyll for some items like training,duty crew time and administration since he would already be paid
by Orono. She said Long Lake is piloting the duty crew concept and the percentage of shifts covered by
duty crews.
Johnson said the two cities could still continue to explore ways to reduce the costs of the Long Lake Fire
operating budget including having Van Eyll perform some tasks.Both said the meeting was positive and
informative.
Walsh said he would be in favor of tabling the 2024 Long Lake Fire Budget at this time so that more of
these questions can be worked out. He noted that the Long Lake Chief has not appeared before the Orono
Council.
Benson said since the Long Lake Fire Department has been underfunded and will continue to serve Orono
residents through the end of the contract she was comfortable with adopting the budget.
Veach said there was agreement that more time will need to be put into the financial separation between
the two departments, for example,for things like budgeting for the station. She said if the City tables this
budget now it needs to be clear on what the open questions are.
Johnson said it is important to continue to work through these questions before adopting the budget.
Walsh said he thought Veach should recuse herself from voting on the budget since it includes officer pay
and her husband is a fire fighter. That would only leave three votes at this meeting on this action item.
The possibility of separating personnel costs from the rest of the budget and voting on two motions
separately was briefly discussed.
Benson said she was comfortable with the budget but can support tabling if others have more questions.
Johnson moved,Walsh seconded,to table a decision on the 2024 Long Lake Fire Department
budget.VOTE: Ayes 4,Nays 0.
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PARKS REPORT
20. RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN APPLICATION FOR A HENNEPIN COUNTY
SPORTS FACILITY GRANT FOR HACKBERRY PARK—RESOLUTION NO. 7402
Park Director Lemons asked the City Council to approve by resolution an application for a Hennepin
County sports facility grant for Hackberry Park.He said the maximum amount of the grant would be
requested for parking,a t-ball field,multi-use sports field and drainage. The maximum amount would be
$300,000 and require a 50 percent match.The total cost is estimated at$1.1 million.The City has a scope
of the project but is still meeting with residents and the sports associations,he said.The plan is still
developing at this point,but they know the scope of the project is those four items. Within the grant
changes could still be made to configuration as long as those needs were covered. The application is due
in mid-October.
Benson said she had some comments after reading City and Parks notes since 2016 when the City
purchased the house in the middle of the park.Youth sports groups have been engaged informally for
years and needs for drainage and parking are known. What she didn't see in those notes until recently was
larger engagement of the community and surrounding neighbors. That began recently. She has not seen
any savings in parks funds in seven years for these projects.It has not been budgeted for. The cost to the
City and partnerships if the City received the grant would be over$800,000. There are many unknowns
here,not the least of which is finances and there are still many concerns. She said she has concerns about
applying for a grant when the City doesn't have reserve funding for the City and partnership portions of
the costs. She noted grants are a lot of work and there is only three weeks to apply. Items like drainage
and trees could be addressed in the meantime.
Walsh said this is a first step to move forward and have funds allocated.He said it is necessary to have
something to move forward. In the past there has not been money budgeted for parks,he said,but that has
changed under this Council. When the City would have access to the house in the park to remove it was
also an unknown that prevented money from being set aside because it could have been years down the
road.
Veach moved,Johnson seconded,to adopt Resolution No. 7402 authorizing an application for a
Hennepin County Sports Facility Grant for Hackberry Park.VOTE: Ayes 3,Nays 1 (Benson).
21. APPROVAL OF PICKLEBALL CONCEPT SERVICES
Park Director Lemons said he was seeking approval for hiring Bolton and Menk to develop a concept for
pickleball courts behind Fire Station One near the donation garden. The plan includes a timeline with an
open house on the various concept designs with approval in February of next year. He said they were
looking at something similar to what was proposed at the golf course with four to six pickleball courts.
Veach asked what had happened to the idea of pickleball at the golf course.
Lemons said an overwhelming majority of neighbors and golfers were opposed to adding pickleball to the
golf course. It has been about two years since the City was first approached by residents about having
pickleball courts in the community.After the golf course the Park Commission looked at two sites,
Bederwood and the donation garden.Bederwood had a number of drawbacks including the need to move
the playground.
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Veach said she was aware there were persons in the audience interested in this item and she asked to hear
from them.
Sandy Rasmsssen, 1186 Wildhurst Trail, said she is very involved in pickleball and is an alternate to the
Park Commission. She said the unique thing about pickleball is that it is a drop-in sport.Players show up
and rotate in and can be pretty much assured if you have courts, someone will be there and you can play.
It has become an incredibly strong pickleball community and many of us are driving long distances to
play outdoors, she said. The group is looking for bare bones,no lights or amenities,just courts and
fencing. She said the new proposal is a great site and will bring more attention to community garden.
There are few houses nearby but at Bederwood there would be more houses closer. They liked the idea of
shared facilities at the park but the noise can be a deterrent, she said. The community is looking for an
outdoor place to play without having to drive 20 miles and in her opinion this site is the second best next
to the golf course. She added pickleball is played by a wide range of ages,not just older adults. It is a
multi-generation sport.
Michael Miller, 1987 Fagerness Point, said the proximity to fire station and City hall to the proposed site
could offer the ability to have informal employee leagues. It could be a wellness program.
Janie Delaney, 1315 Woodhill Avenue, said she is in favor of the donation garden area as a pickleball site
but said the donation garden has been there since 2011 and she wants people to understand the volunteers
use organic no-till farming methods so it's not possible to just come in with a bobcat to move the garden.
They have amended and added to the soil to keep microorganisms in. She is concerned about the
displacement to the garden if there are four to six courts put in. She wanted the Council to consider what
it means to significantly relocate the garden. She asked if they could you consider fewer courts there and
putting others someplace else. She also said the City hasn't looked enough at the other suggestions like
working with the schools. She said maybe just draw it out on a napkin and see what everyone is thinking
before spending money on a feasibility study. She cancelled an order for compost for the garden when she
saw this item on the agenda and is concerned that they won't be gardening next summer. It doesn't impact
just the volunteers but also local food shelves, churches and other charities that receive food donations,
she said. It's an important community outreach.Twice a week they have about 12 volunteers parking
there and others are there almost every day.Last year the garden donated 2.5 tons of food and the need at
the food shelves has almost doubled in the last few years,she said.
Johnson said she raised good questions because the donation garden has a cycle and they need to know
how it will be affected.He said he was glad she brought this up so that everyone understands what it
would mean to move the garden.
Walsh said he is a big supporter of the donation garden and pledged to work with them.
Benson said she did not know that the donation garden serves that many people and organizations,so she
was glad to know that. She said she was aware of interest in pickleball in the community for several years
and supports community recreation but said the City has paid for concept plans for a couple of projects in
recent years that have not come to fruition. There are real dollars being spent by the City of Orono in a lot
of areas and the levy is increasing this year.A dollar is a dollar. passing To her contracting for a concept
plan is an indication that the City is ready to fund this initiative and she doesn't see the money is there to
fund pickleball as much as many in the community wants it. She said she supports the playing of
pickleball but also has questions about partnering with the school or other sites that would not impact the
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current budget.Benson said she is struggling with the number of projects the Council has said yes to in
terms of concept plans for projects that they have not been able to bring forward. There ate no costs
known or planned donations and the project could also mean an impact on an existing activity in the
donation garden.
Walsh said the City is not struggling to fund its cash flow. Without doing these kinds of concept plans it
can't go forward and know costs and find funds,he said.
Johnson pointed out the Parks Department has already put a lot of thought into this and recommendations
have not been made on the fly.
GordyStoffer, 190 Orchard Road and a member of the Parks Commission,said a d he appreciate the work
and passion that has gone into this.It has gone on for a number of years and this is the best site they have
found,he said.He said he hopes they can find a way to work with the donation garden and find a win-
win. It's a good site,he added,flat and maybe a fraction of the cost of the plan at the golf course.
Johnson moved,Veach seconded,to approve hiring Bolton and Menk to do a Pickleball Concept
Plan.VOTE: Ayes 3,Nays 1 (Benson).
Lemons said the Parks Department is doing fall projects,pulling in docks,and getting the golf course
ready for winter.Recent rain has helped. It is crunch time to get everything ready before the snow flies,
he said.
CITY ATTORNEY REPORT
City Attorney Mattick was not present due to a personal emergency.
CITY ADMINISTRATOR/ENGINEER REPORT
22. CITY CLERK RECRUITING AND TEMPORARY APPOINTMENT
City Administrator Edwards said the City Clerk,Anna Carlson,has tendered her resignation and will be
done October 12. She has accepted a position as a City Administrator at a neighboring City.He said she
would be missed. He would like to appoint City Management Assistant Nola Dickhausen as acting clerk
and initiate a recruitment process to fill the position.
Johnson moved,Benson seconded,to accept the resignation of Anna Carlson,and approve the
appointment of Nola Dickhausen as interim City clerk and authorize the initiation of a recruitment
process.VOTE: Ayes 4,Nays 0.
On the engineering side,he reported the Fox Street project has been completed.The Navarre parking lot
is paved and striped. The shared project on Townline Road has a base coat of asphalt. ThefForce main
project on Tonkawa is halfway done. There was a no cost change order on that project that he approved.
COUNCIL COMMITTEE REPORTS
23. HR/ORGANIZATION COMMITTEE UPDATE
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Benson said the committee talked about changes in sick leave passed by the State effective January 1,
2024;the job description and scope of the park superintendent;custodial services starting with a seasonal
position and looking to move into a full-time position, and changes to management and hours of the IT
Department.More management and support is needed for IT.
24. LONG LAKE FIRE ADVISORY BOARD
Veach said she had given that update earlier in the meeting. There are no more scheduled meetings this
year although it was discussed that everyone is open to additional meetings.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Kelly Prchal,4705 Watertown Road, shares concerns about debt consolidation and the fiscal
responsibility of starting a new Fire Department. She said there is no need to spend money on a new
department. The City can continue to partner with Long Lake for consistent fire services for less money
and have money for other things.Even at a significantly higher cost,response times cannot be improved
undera new department over today's response time, she said,and that concerns public safety. Since the
Council is planning to serve all of the sprawling City from the old public works building, she does not see
how that can improve response times. She asked for more visibility,adding other cities are joining forces.
Orono is branching out on our own.Her concern is that Orono will not be a viable collaborative partner to
other communities because of all the unrest on this issue.Residents need to be assured there will be viable
fire service in 2025. She said the issues needs more public input and she hopes the City is headed into
mediation the next day in good faith.
Krista Berbig, 80 Valley View Road,Long Lake,said she finds this all disingenuous. On August 14,
Crosby said there was discussion of hourly wages for fire fighters and it was discovered salaries were
falling below average. She pointed to records from Fire Committee meetings stating that Crosby had
changed his statements on the amount of hourly wages paid to Fire Department.At one point in
Committee,he supported an amount in the neighborhood of$13.50 per hour and expressed frustration at
proposals to raise fire fighter's salaries since he didn't make that much in his ten years on the department
and said that fire fighters don't do this job for the money and such a large increase would look suspect.At
the August 14 City Council,meeting he claimed to have pushed for a$15.65 per hour wage,according to
Berbig,but nowhere in the discussion at the committee level did he propose$15.65 per hour.
Kelly Grady,271 Greenhill Lane, Long Lake, said the City at the last meeting approved$2.6 million for
fire trucks. The current budget is$550,000 for fire services and Orono is already over budget for this
year. Not one person at the last Council meeting championed development of a new Fire Department. It
is getting more expensive and it will be impossible to have certified fire fighters trained and ready to
respond by July. Long Lake fire fighters do not want to be split up,she said.The response from Orono
seemed to be 'move on, get over it,the decision has been made'. This is not true. The next day the City
was to participate in court-ordered mediation with the City of Long Lake. She said she was here to ask
that as Orono goes into mediation it considers the wishes of the Long Lake Fire Department Relief
Association. Grady read an excerpt from a June letter from the Relief Association stating their only
request is to keep the Fire Department whole,preserve a successful department and combine resources
and efforts. When cities work together citizens receive better,faster and more cost-effective services and
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that is industry best practice,the letter continued. She asked the Council to build upon the 108-year
foundation of exemplary fire service go into mediation with open minds and consider the wishes of the
volunteer fire fighters. She contended based on what Council members said tonight they cannot
possibility be going into mediation in good faith. Through it all,she said,the Long Lake fire fighters have
continued to serve the community and she asked the community to support the Long Lake Fire
Department open house on October 9.
Brad Erickson,Corcoran, said he thinks Mr. Crosby ought to be fired.Two meetings ago he at the very
least compared Erickson to a Nazi.He asked when will someone speak out because this is becoming the
official message of this City that it is okay to peddle in this stuff.He added Walsh started it, saying he
doesn't know why anyone would bring this up and state it from the Orono City Council table.Erickson
said he had asked for them to sit down to discuss this,adding Crosby should apologize and be censured.
Council Members are dug in on this Nazi stuff,he said. Crosby was out in Washington DC on a first
amendment binge but somehow when he comes up to exercise his first amendment rights they have a
problem with it.He asked when is he going to get an apology and are certain Council Members so
radicalized they think this should be part of civic discourse.
MAYOR/COUNCIL REPORT
Benson said she does not make a habit of responding to public comments in her report but wanted to say
she appreciates the comments made tonight. She denounces hate in any form and speaks for decorum in
City Council meetings and does her best to abide by this. She attended the Wayzata Fire Department
pancake breakfast and said it was wonderful to see communities coming together for positive reasons.
Benson wished City Clerk Anna Carlson well and congratulated her on her new position.
Veach also thanked Anna Carlson and said she has been great to work with since her days as an election
judge. She wished her well in her new position. Veach said she was at the Fire Advisory Board meeting
and can state that within 24 hours of that meeting,Crosby did reach out after putting in more thought
about what he had said. She also mentioned the Fire Department open house on October 9. In her mind,
there never was anything saying that Fire Department can't stay together, she said.
Johnson said he also wanted to congratulate Anna Carlson as she is very capable.With respect to the
mediation the next day,he said he was going in good faith and with an open mind.He said he holds out
hope that there is a path forward for both cities with a path of keeping the fire fighters together. If
progress is being made it could be a multi-day mediation. He is concerned about needing an alternate if it
goes for multiple days.
Benson said she was not aware that the City was disclosing who was representing the City in mediation
and that the City Attorney had advised them not to.
Johnson said it has been open that he was attending mediation.
Johnson moved,Walsh seconded,that the Council appoint Veach as an alternate for mediation in
the event one of the two representatives could not make it. Vote: Ayes 4,Nayes 0.
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Johnson said he did not know where the idea comes from that the City cannot provide adequate service
with a new department. This is not true,he said. The whole idea is to improve services that are consistent
with the expectations of the residents,but it is more expensive.
Walsh said Orono has a track record of funding services correctly and providing great service.He said he
was looking forward to mediation the next day and is hopeful.He reported the Orono High School
Football team was 3 and 0 after defeating Delano. Walsh thanked Anna Carlson and wished her well,
saying Rockford would be in good hands because she is detailed,smart,and gets things done.He ended
with a quote from Bud Grant.
ADJOURNMENT
Walsh moved Johnson seconded to adjourn the meeting. VOTE: Ayes 4, Nays 0. The meeting was
adjourned at 9:50 p.m.
ATTEST:
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