HomeMy WebLinkAbout04-18-1988 Planninng MinutesSSIOH NBBTIMG MOLD APRIL 18, 1988MIHOTBS OP THE PLABBISG O
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The Planning Commission met on the above date with the
following members present; Chairman Kelley, Johnson,
Hanson, and Cohen. Brown arrived at 7:17 P.M. Bellows
was absent. The following represented the City staff:
Assistant Planning t Zoning Administrator Gaffron,
Building Official Jacobs, and City Recorder Peterson.
Mayor Grabek and CounciImember Callahan were also
present during the meeting.
*1218 BSTATB OP KDTB SMITH
387 (HKNK> OBCBARD HOAD
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CCMTIHUBD RBPIEII 7:12-7:15
Gaffron reviewed staff's continued recommendation of
denial of the two plat application finding the
information is incomplete concerning specifically the
necessary septic information for Lot 1.
Attorney John Krenn, representing the estate, was
present for this matter. He referred to a letter from
Attorney Larry Berg, who represents Cedric Dettloff in
this matter, which acknowledges the responsibility for
relocating the on-site septic system on his property if
the tests being undertaken should disclose that the on
site septic system encroaches upon proposed Lot 2. He
noted that they anticipate that the testing will be done
prior to the April 25th Council meeting. He stated that
the estate is anxious to finalize the purchase agreement
for the property and requests Planning Commission make
their recommendation at this meeting.
Chairman Kelley noted that during the November and March
reviews. Planning Commission indicated that they would
not recommend approval prior to the necessary septic
information, and felt that nothing has changed in this
respect.
It was moved by Cohen, seconded by Johnson, to recommend
denial of the application per staff recommendation.
Motion, Ayes 4, Nays 0. (Brown not present for this
vote.)
*1233 MICHAEL HALLEY HONES INC.
2715 PENCE LAND
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT t VARIANCE
PINAL REVIEW OP REVISED PLAN
Planning Commission held this application until the end
of the meeting waiting for the applicant or a
representative to be in attendance.
It was moved by Chairman Kelley, seconded by Cohen, to
table any discussion in this matter until a
representative was present. Motion, Ayes 5, Nays 0.
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1991 FA6SRRB8S POIRT RORO
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PUBLIC BBRRIBG 7:16-7:28
The Affidavit of Publication and Certificate of Mailing
were noted.
Gaffron explained the request for hardcover and
lakeshore setback variances to construct minor additions
and revamp garage and driveway areas.
Orville Pisher was present and explained a drainage and
ponding problem in his driveway which he plans to solve
in conjunction with this construction. He noted that he
needs storage area because the residence has no
basement. He stated that he is in agreement with the
staff recommendation except to relocate the shed to
maintain the 10', setback because the alternate location
would not be aesthetically pleasing.
Chairman Kelley noted the the overall actual hardcover
will be reduced approximately 2t wif. this proposal.
There were no comments from the public regarding this
matter and the public hearing was closed.
Cohen stated that although he found no problems with the
plan he felt that a drainage plan should be submitted
and approved by the City Engineer prior to Planning
Commissions recommendation.
Mr. Fisher explained that the planned drainage
improvements will not affect the Rezabek property and
he noted that he was made aware of the need for a
drainage plan in staff's memo received just this past
weekend.
Chairman Kelley read into the record a letter from the
adjacent neighbor, Allan Rezabek of 1989 Fagerness Point
Road, stating his concern regarding the storage shed and
requested the shed to be moved to conform with the
required setback.
Mr. Fisher did not understand why the existing location
of the shed would be of concern to Mr. Rezabek,
especially since Mr. Rezabek stores his boat next to the
shed. He also noted that if he relocated the shed to
the alternate site, Mr. Rezabek's bay window would look
upon the shed.
Chairman Kelley asked about the status of the willow
tree recently removed within the lakeshore yard.
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Mr. Fisher stated that he has an extensive landscape
plan which includes two large ash trees to replace the
lost willow tree, which split in two and fell onto his
dock.
Chairman Kelley and Cohen in viewing the property did
not feel relocating the shed would create any visual
impact when entering the driveway, as was stated as a
concern by Mr. Fisher.
Applicants contractor, Fred Royle, was present and
showed photos of the site to the Planning Commission.
It was moved by Chairman Kelley, seconded by Cohen, to
table this application pending the drainage plans being
submitted and approved. Motion, Ayes 2, Nays 3.
Johnson, Brown, and Hanson voted nay stating they could
recommend approval subject to the drainage plans being
submitted and approved prior to Council review. Motion
fails.
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It was moved ty Brown, seconded by Johnson, to recommend
approval subject to the drainage plans being submitted
and approved prior to Council review, and per staff
i.ecommendation except condition #6 requiring the
relocation of the storage shed. Motion, Ayes 1, Nays 4.
Kelley, Hanson, Cohen, and Johnson voted nay. Johnson
stated he felt the shed should be relocated per the
neighbor's request. Motion failed.
Mr. Fisher asked if he could eliminate the shed and
add an addition the same square footage as the storage
shed to the house to compensate for the needed storage
area?
Planning Commission seemed agreeable to that suggestion.
It was moved by Hanson, seconded by Brown, to recommend
approval subject to the following conditions:
1. Submit a grading and drainage plan to be approved
by the City Engineer prior to Council approval.
2. Relocate the storage shed to a location meeting
the required setbacks; or remove the shed and allow
the construction of an attached storage structure
the same square footage as the existing storage
shed.
Motion, Ayes 3, Nays 2. Kelley and Cohen voted nay
objecting to recommending approval prior to reviewing
the drainage plans. Motion carried.
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*1259 WILLIAM C. ODDBS
3450 EOMTH SHORE DRIVE
VARIAHCB
POBLIC HEAR1H6 7:50-7:52
William Odden was present for this matter.
The Affidavit of Publication and Certificate of Mailing
were noted.
Gaffron explained the request for hardcover variance to
ccnstruct a three stall detached garage. He noted that
in 1977, the City Council approved the proposed garage
and additions subject to the driveway being gravel,
which at that time was not considered hardcov’er. A
variance is required due to the extreme length of
driveway hardcover in order to serve the proposed
garage.
There were no comments from the public regarding this
matter and the public hearing was closed.
It was moved by Cohen, seconded by Johnson, to recommend
approval per staff recommendation including the
condition that no additional future hardcover bo
approved for this property. Motion, Ayes 5, Nays 0.
#1260 JOBE EYQOIST
1432 BALDOR PARK ROAD
VARIAHCB
POBLIC BBARIHG 7:53-8:09
The Affidavit of Publication and Certificate of Mailing
were noted.
Gaffron explained the request to tear down an existing
detached garage and construct a new detached garage
requiring variances as follows:
Hardcover - 0-75' No change
75-250’ Existing 40.9%
Proposed 53.8%
Side Setback - Required 10'
Existing 2' (existing garage)
Proposed 5' (proposed garage)
Street Setback - Required 30'
Existing 3.8' (existing garage)
Proposed 20' (proposed garage)
Gaffron noted that in 1982, the applicant, without
approval, constructed the currently existing patio, with
after-the-fact direction from staff as to how it would
have to be reconstructed in order to remain.
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#1260 HTQOIST COHTIBUBD
John Nyquist was present for this matter and stated he
has o%med the property for 11 years Including during the
period in 1979 when variances were granted for other
changes to the property.
Chairman Kelley questioned what has occurred on the
property since that time.
Gaffron reviewed the changes made on the property since
that time, noting that the variance granted in 1979
reflected a less rigorous method of hardcover
calculation in use at that time.
Staff recommendation for this application, per memo, is
that the plastic under the landscaping areas be removed,
the sidewalk be cut down to a 2* width, and driveway cut
down to 20' width resulting in a final 75-250' hardcover
of 42.8%. In addition, staff does not see an obvious
hardship to allow less than a 10* side setback for the
garage.
Mr. Nyquist stated he is agreeable to staff's
recommendation except to maintain the 10' setback. He
noted that many of the neighboring properties have a
garage setback comparable to the proposed 5' setback.
He also noted that if a 10' setback is maintained he
would have problems gaining access to the well on the
property. He stated he is agreeable to removing the
plastic around the house and is open to suggestions for
its replacement in conjunction with solving the drainage
problem into the house crawl space.
Chairman Kelley felt the garage size and driveway could
be cut down to reduce the hardcover an additional 2% so
there would be no increase in 75-250' hardcover from
what currently exists.
There were no comments from the public regarding this
matter and the public hearing was closed.
It was moved by Chairman Kelley, seconded by Cohen, to
recommend approval of the side and street setback
variances as proposed, subject to removal of plastic
within 0-75' that is not necessary to protect
foundation/crawl space, and 75-250' hardcover not to
exceed existing 40.9%. Motion, Ayes 5, Nays 0.
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*1281 JOB KAUSCBBBDOKFBR
3895 8B0ULIHB DRIVB
VARIABCB
PUBLIC HBBK1B6 8sl2-8t30
The Affidavit of Publication and Certificate of Mailing
were noted.
Gaffron explained that that applicants were encouraged
by staff to submit a variance application since the
upgrade of Cty. Rd. 15 will have a major effect on
existing structures and fence on their property. The
applicants existing planter box will be removed as part
of the Cty. Rd. 15 construction which will be replaced
by the County, but only to the extent approved by the
City of Orono. Part of the planter box and most of the
fence are within the county road right of way.
Applicant requests direction as to what restoration is
allowable and how high a fence will be allowed.
Additionally, applicant is proposing a phased upgrade,
beginning in 1989, of the existing house including the
reconstruction of foundation walls and construction of
an addition on the lake side of the house and
construction of an attached garage.
Joe and Sandy Rauschendorfer were present for this
matter and reviewed their future plans and stages to be
done. Regarding the replacement of the fence, applicant
would like to construct a 6' high privacy fence.
Chairman Kelley felt that because applicants do not
intend to start work until 1989, Planning Commission
should only address the planter box and fence issue at
this time.
Mr. Rauschendorf er stated that they would like some
conceptual direction from the Planning Commission
regarding the extent they can use their property in
order to decide if they want to remain living there.
Chairman Kelley stated his major concern with any
property improvements would be staying within the
existing or less hardcover amounts.
Regarding the proposed garage, Planning Commission felt
the 10' structure-to structure-setback was necessary for
safety reasons.
Mr. Rauschendorfer stated that in order to build an
adequate sized garage with turn around the required 10'
structure-to-structure setback could not be maintained.
There were no comments from the public regarding this
matter and the public hearing was closed.
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It was moved by Chairman Kelley# seconded by Cohen# to
table this application until June for additional
information and further consideration. Motion, Ayes 5,
Mays 0.
Regarding the planter box and fence. Planning Comnission
conceptually approved the plan per staff
recommendations, noting that the fence at a maximun.
height of 6* above the road crown would not need
variances.
4 ^#1262 CURTIS BA6PORS
1412 BALDOR PARK ROAD
VARIABCB
PUBLIC BBARIBG 8:34-8s40
The Affidavit of Publication and! Certificate of Mailing
were noted.
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Curtis Ragfors was present for inis siatter.
Gaffron explained the application involving major
additions to the existing house and replacement of the
existing garage with a new double garage. The intent is
to lift the existing house and move it into the 0-75'
area temporarily (1-2 weeks) in order to put in a new
foundation, then construct house and deck additions to
the house and also construct a new detached garage.
Variances requested are as follows:
75-250' hardcover - Allowed ■ 25% or 2572 s.f.
Existing - 25.2%
Proposed ■ 35.3% or 7294 s.f.
Per staff's memo, this hardcover variance request is
consistent with recent hardcover approvals on the
adjacent properties to either side.
Side setback for house addition -
Required ■ 10'
Existing house » 9.6'
Proposed addition extension • 9.6'
Variance = 0.4'
Garage street setback -Required « 30'
Existing “ 12'
Proposed new garage
Variance = 13'
Chairman Kelley noted that the major issue was the
hardcover variance.
There were no comments from the public regarding this
matter and the public hearing was closed.
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Planning Commission felt that if the plan was to lift
the house and replace the foundation, that the house
could be moved over and back to meet the 10* required
side setback and back so that the proposed deck does not
encroach the average lakeshore setback line.
It was moved by Johnson, seconded by Hanson, to
recommend approval subject to the following conditions:
1. Lowest floor elevation must be 932.5' or higher.
2. House may be stored for up to 6 weeks in the 0-
75' zone.
3. Replace house to meet required setbacks.
4. Variances approved:
a. Hardcover 75-250' - 35.3% allowed.
b. Garage street setback of 17' allowed.
c. Lot area/width variances.
Motion, Ayes 4, Nays 1. Cohen voted nay opposing the
hardcover increase.
#1263 JAMBS RIVERS-HINDMARD MARIMA
1444 SHCHtBLIMB DRIVE
COMDITIOMAL OSB PBRMIT/VARIABCBS/
COMMERCIAL SITE PLAN RBVIBH
PUBLIC BEARIK 8:46-9x26
The '^ojvit of Publication and Certificate of Mailing
were noted
James Rivers was present for this matter.
Jacobs reviewed the proposal to build two new structures
on the property. Reviews1 of variances as follows:
Parking - The property is 7 parking spaces short of the
required number, which has previously been approved
including a conditional use permit for commercial
overflow parking in a residential district. No change
to what currently exists is proposed.
Of the 72 parking spaces provided. Planning Commission
felt that 6 spaces should be designated for retail use
12 months of the year, and 66 spaces designated as
seasonal spaces from May 1 - September 30 of each year.
This was based on requirments of the retail space of
building.
Minimum Landscaping - Applicant is requesting a
variance to the lakeshore, side var-1, and front
landscaping section due to the parkin'^ requirements,
size of the structure, the size of lot, and roadway
through middle of the property.
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Chairman Kelley stated he was against granting Any
variances for landscaping.
Mr. Rivers noted that there is a pending legal case with
the County regarding the right-of-way issue whereas ho
is requesting the County vacate property they have never
maintained.
Jacobs reviewed the right-of-way issue noting that the
County stated in their report that nothing is to be done
within the County right-of-way.
Planning Commission felt they could not make a
recommendation involving the right-of-way until the
matter was lesolved between the applicant and the
County.
Lot Area/Lot Width - No change from what exists.
Street setback - Planning Commission felt that the
required 15' setback should be maintained.
Lakeshore setback/Lakeshore hardcover - Jacobs reviewed
the hardcover variances requested from Tanager Lake and
Browns Bay; and reviewed the proposed 30* lakeshore
setback where 75' is normally required. Currently a 55'
setback exists, however it is all hardcover, and the
current proposal consists of a 30' grass area along the
lake in front of the building.
Planning Commission found no problem with the hardcover
as proposed.
Chairman Kelley felt that the setbacks should be
maintained, building square footage should remain the
same as it exists now and move it toward the Tanager
Lake sidr. and then if necessary come back with a
variance request for a lakeshore setback.
It was noted that this issue could have a different
impact if it was tabled pending the outcome of the
right-of-way issue.
ircial Site Plan Review -
1. Access - The City Engineer recommended a median,
however Planning Commission felt a median would
present access problems for large boats and
suggested a mobile median device or none at all.
The Hennepin County Transportation Dept,
recommended turn lanes, however, staff excluded them
from their recommendation, as it is not feasible
since it would require work on neighboring property.
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#1283 EIVERS-HIEDIIARD MARINA CCWTIHUED
2. Drainage - The City Engineer is requesting
drainage plans and details to control the storm
water run-off. The plan shows arrows for runoff but
not how to handle it before it enters the lake.
3. Building 6 Screening plans - Jacobs reviewed
these plans as outlined in staff memo.
4. Signage - Per staff recommendation, applicant
plans to reduce the size of the lettering.
5. Pire Code, Sewer & SAC Charges - Reviewed and
accepted per staff memo.
6. Landscaping plan - Plan must be provided. Staff
recommends that the area south of the crane be oiade
into green area. Planning Coimnisslon also wants 10'
of green area in the front of the building on the
Tanager Lake side of the property.
There were no comments from the public regarding this
matter.
It was moved by Chairman Kelley,
table this application until the
been resolved with the County and
consider comments made by the
in developing this comprehensive
Notion, Ayes 5, Nays 0.
seconded by Hanson, to
right-of-way issue has
advising the applicant
Planning Commission
commercial site plan.
#1264 TOM & CHRIS SMIBJA
20 CYGNET PLACE
VARIANCE
PUBLIC HEARING 9:28-9:30
The Affidavit of Publication and Certificate of Mailing
were noted.
Tom Smieja was present for this matter.
Gaffron reviewed the request for lot area and lot width
variances as follows:
Lot Area - Required 2.00 acres. Existing 1.37 acres
Lot Width - Required 200', Existing 193' along
Cygnet Place
Staff recommends approval based on the findings that the
lot size is consistent with existing developed lot sizes
in the general area, the lot can support suitable
primary and alternate drainfiled sites, and no adjacent
property is available for purchase to make this a
conforming lot.
MIHOTBS OF THE PLMniiaG COMMISSIOR
*1264 SMIBJA COHTIH
itiHG 3BU> APRIL IS, 1988
There were no comments from the public regarding this
matter and the public hearing was closed.
It was moved by Brown, seconded by Johnson, to recommend
approval of the lot area and lot width variances per
staff recommendation and conditions. Motion, Ayes 5,
Nays 0.
81211 6BRALO RBSLOHD/JAMBS NCCAFPBRY
1225 OROMO OAKS DRIVE
COHDTIORAL OSE PBRMITAARIAECE
FOR DRIVBNAT THR006B WBTLABD
RBQ0B8* FOR REVISED LOCATIOE
mPOliilATIOR ORLT
Gaffron explained this matter where the applicants were
previously granted a conditional use permit and variance
to construct a driveway directly through a wetland in
order to access the property on Orono Oaks Drive. As
construction progressed, it became evident that the
wetland was not as stable as had been thought and would
not support the construction of a driveway. Therefore,
applicants are proposing to remove as much of the placed
fill as possible, allowing the wetland to return to its
previous state, and relocate the driveway further west
on an easement over Lot 8 owned by Gerald Neslund.
Planning Commission accepted this information and staffs
recommendation as presented.
APPROVAL OF MIRUTES
It was moved by Chairman Kelley, seconded by Johnson, to
approve the Minutes of the March 21, 1988 Planning
Commission meeting as submitted. Motion, Ayes 5, Nays
0.
PLAHHIHG COMMISSKW REPRESENTATIVE
Chairman Kelley was appointed to attend the May 9, 1988
Council meeting.
ADJODRHNEHT 9:42 P.M.
The Planning Commission meeting adjourned at 9:42 P.M.