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ORONO PLANNING COMMISSION
June 20,2023
6:00 o'clock p.m.
ROLL CALL
The Orono Planning Commission met on the above-mentioned date with the following members present:
Acting Chair Jon Ressler,Commissioners Dennis Libby,Jon Ressler,Bob Erickson, Gary Kraemer and
Ted Schultze,alternate. Chair Chris Bollis and Commissioner Mark McCutcheon were absent.
Representing Staff were Community Development Director Laura Oakden, City Planner Melanie Curtis,
and City Planner Natalie Nye.
Acting Chair Ressler called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m., followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
OATH OF OFFICE
Community Development Director Oakden administered the Oath of Office to Ted Schultze, alternate
planning commissioner,who was immediately seated.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Libby moved,Kraemer seconded,to approve the Agenda. VOTE: Ayes 5,Nays 0.
APPROVAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES OF MAY 15,2023
Libby moved,Erickson seconded,to approve the minutes of the Orono Planning Commission
meeting of May 15,2023.VOTE: Ayes 5,Nays 0.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. LA22-000064 LEBRISIA IVERSEN,4448 NORTH SHORE DRIVE,REQUESTS
VARIANCES FOR AVERAGE LAKESHORE SETBACK, 75' LAKESHORE SETBACK,
HARDCOVER TO EXCEED 25%,HARDCOVER WITHIN THE 75-FOOT SETBACK
AND SIDE YARD SETBACK.
City Planner Nye gave a presentation on the item, stating the applicant is proposing a house addition on
the north side of the home.The property is substandard in size at.46 acres when the LR 1B district
requires a one-acre minimum and the lot is a unique shape, she said. The existing one-story home is non
conforming and does not meet the required LR-1B setbacks or the required Lake setbacks. The 75-foot
Lakeshore setback and average Lakeshore setback lines run through the middle of the existing home. The
expansion that is proposed is entirely in front of those setback lines. The property is also currently over
the hardcover limitation of 25 percent at 27 percent.The plan improves hardcover slightly but not below
25 percent. The requested addition requires variances from the average Lakeshore setback,75-foot
Lakeshore setback,hard cover to exceed 25 percent,hard cover within the 75-foot setback and side-yard
setback. The applicant is proposing a two-story addition with a rooftop terrace over the second story.Nye
said staff agrees with the practical difficulties present and can support the construction of an addition,but
recommends denial of the addition as proposed. Staff believes the proposed height creates a vertical
encroachment and could impact neighboring lake views and that several doors exiting the addition are
shown but not the entry landings or patios, so hardcover may actually be increased over what is proposed.
The planning commission should discuss the application and consider if the variances requested are
reasonable and in character for the neighborhood,she said, specifically the height and hardcover. The
applicants and the general contractor were present.
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Ressler asked about setbacks.
Nye said the application slightly increased side-yard setback but staff is not concerned about that as much
as the height and hardcover.The building would not be any closer to the lake.
Andrew Iverson, 5558 North Shore Dr., said they are stuck in a unique property between the lake and a
busy road. He said they have gotten approval letters from several of the neighbors concerning the height
increase and the plan would not block any neighbor's view. They are alongside a channel and close
neighbors face the lake.He said they wanted the rooftop terrace because they lack a lot of sunlight due to
mature trees and saw it as a safe play space for their children since there is a lake on one side and a busy
road on the other. They would also plan a rooftop garden. Windows on the front were converted to doors
but the family hasn't used them because they go straight to the lake which is unsafe for children, and for
that reason,they don't plan stairs. They noted they were within the 30-foot height restrictions and also
don't have a basement. The applicant pointed out another house in the area with a rooftop terrace that he
feels encroaches a great deal more.
Acting Chair Ressler opened the public hearing at 6:20 p.m.
There were no public comments.
Acting Chair Ressler closed the public hearing at 6:20 p.m.
Ressler asked about grade for the height,noting that the road is higher than the property.
Nye said the grade is figured from the base of the house,not the road.
Erickson asked to see the illustration of the actual proposed addition.He said he was concerned about the
height issue for other properties and that the proposed height seems to magnify the setback issue.
Schultze asked if the addition could block the view of the lake of people across the road.
The applicant explained that the direct view is of the channel.
Kraemer said he feels like this falls into the best they can do.He understands the staffs concern about
height but noted that neighbors are not in objection.
Ressler said he usually likes to side with staff but the lot is almost unbuildable and the applicant has the
support of neighbors. He expressed concern about hardcover staying below the applied amount but said
he would support the application because it is going up on a structure that is already there. He would not
want to see any further side-yard encroachment.
Iverson said when they purchased the house they removed a significant amount of hardcover and there is
another old walkway they could remove.
Libby said he still sees a problem in that there has not been an establishment of practical difficulties that
warrants so many variances.He said he was thinking more in the spirit of the codes and how they are
enforced.
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Erickson said he was concerned about the increase of height in the 75-foot setback. He said the City has
been consistent about that.
Libby suggested the commission provide feedback instead of an approval or denial but said there were too
many elements to focus on just one.
Kraemer moved, Schultze seconded,to approve LA22-000064 Lebrisia Iversen,4448 North Shore
Drive,variance requests.VOTE: Ayes: 3,Nays 2 (Libby and Erickson).
2. LA23-000022 MICHAEL CLARK,565 LEAF STREET,REQUESTS A VARIANCE FOR
THE PLACEMENT OF A NEW ACCESSORY BUILDING STREETWARD OF THE
PRINCIPAL BUILDING.
City Planner Nye provided information stating the applicant is proposing to construct a new accessory
building to be used as a garage and an accessory dwelling unit streetward of the principal building.
Accessory buildings are required to be placed to the rear of the principal building or home so a variance
for the placement of the new building is being requested. The existing home is placed towards the rear of
the property which limits the ability to construct an accessory building in a compliant location, she said.
There are also topographical limitations that do not allow for the expansion of the existing attached
garage. The new accessory building meets all other building setbacks, hardcover and lot coverage
requirements,Nye said. Staff recommends approval of the variance request as applied with the addition of
one condition that all accessory dwelling unit ADU performance standards must be met, including a
covenant, which should be executed at the time of building permit. The applicant's architect or contractor
was present and available for any questions.
Acting Chair Ressler opened the public hearing at 6:48 p.m.
There were no public comments.
Acting Chair Ressler closed the public hearing at 6:48 p.m.
Schultze asked about the accessory dwelling unit on the second floor.
Nye said the first floor would be a garage and the second would have a bathroom and some living space.
The applicant would have to execute a covenant when they take out the building permit stating they
would not rent it out.
Erickson moved,Libby seconded,to approve LA23-000022 565 Leaf Street,variance request
conditional that all ADU performance standards must be met including a covenant. VOTE: Ayes:
5,Nays 0.
3. LA23-000023 BOB RENAUD WITH MINNESOTA GREEN, 1856 SHADYWOOD ROAD,
REQUESTS A 75' LAKE SETBACK VARIANCE.
City Planner Nye said the applicant is requesting a setback variance to replace a retaining wall within the
75-foot Lakeshore setback. The proposal is to replace a failing timber retaining wall that is supporting a
large tree with a boulder wall. The change in material requires the application for a variance. The
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neighbor supports the application. Staff recommends approval with the conditions to require screening of
the newer retaining wall where feasible in order to preserve the natural vegetated view from the lake and
that all work to construct the walls be contained on the subject property. Or if that's not possible,that
written permission is submitted with the building permit from the abutting neighbor at 1860 Shadywood
Road for any construction or grading work that occurs outside of the property boundary.
Bob Renaud,MN Green Landscaping,327 Marschall Road, Shakopee,reiterated that the main goal was
to save the tree and build a wall that will last longer than the current one.
Libby asked about past dumping by the wall.
Renaud said there was no contamination. What was dumped was yard waste that was organic material
that eventually rotted through the timber wall.He said the tree was a red oak and they would not be
excavating around the roots but simply removing the old wall.
Acting Chair Ressler opened the public hearing at 6:57 p.m.
There were no public comments.
Acting Chair Ressler closed the public hearing at 6:57 p.m.
Ressler said staff had done a good job and the goal of preserving the tree before it was too late for
mitigation would be something that most would support.
Libby asked about erosion barriers.
City Planner Oakden said those would be required as part of the permitting process.
Erickson commented that boulders are natural so perhaps a high level of screening is not necessary.
Kraemer moved,Schultze seconded,to approve LA23-000023 Bob Renaud,Minnesota Green, 1856
Shadywood Road,request for A 75' lake setback variance with the conditions set by staff.VOTE:
Ayes: 5,Nays 0.
4. LA23-000024 SARAH& KEVIN REVERING, 1960 FOX RIDGE ROAD,REQUEST A
FRONT YARD SETBACK VARIANCE FOR AN ADDITION.
City Planner Curtis gave a presentation on the item, stating the applicants are proposing a small 350
square foot garage addition on the west side of the home connecting to the existing attached garage and
accessible to the existing driveway. The property is a corner lot situated on Brown Road South and Fox
Ridge Road. The existing home is set back 56.9 feet from Brown Road. The garage addition on that side
would result in a 46-foot setback because the home is angled with respect to the property line, she said.
That small portion of the addition would require a front setback variance. Practical difficulties include a
wetland and a septic treatment area on a portion of the lot making that part unbuildable.No public
comment has been received. Staff recommends approval of the variances.
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Sarah and Kevin Revering, 1960 Fox Ridge Road,the applicants, also pointed out that it is difficult to
locate anything on the lot because of the wetland and septic culvert. They said they had spoken to all their
neighbors and no one voiced any objection to the plan.
Acting Chair Ressler opened the public hearing at 7:07 p.m.
There were no public comments.
Acting Chair Ressler closed the public hearing at 7:07p.m.
The Commissioners discussed the item.Ressler said, again the problem was the building envelope and the
positioning of the property,adding there doesn't seem to be anywhere else for this to go.
Kraemer also said it looked like a good addition.
Schultze said he appreciated the effort to go back as far as they could with the addition.
Kraemer moved, Schultze seconded,to approve LA23-000024, 1960 Fox Ridge Road, request for
front yard setback variance for an addition.VOTE: Ayes: 5,Nays 0.
5. LA23-000025 REVISION LLC, 165 CRISTOFORI CIRCLE,REQUESTS VARIANCES
TO PERMIT AN OVERSIZED ACCESSORY BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY
STREETWARD OF THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING.
City Planner Curtis said the applicant is proposing to construct an accessory garage with a footprint of
1400 square feet in front of the home on the property. The building is considered to be an oversized
accessory building or an OAB in the code. The applicant proposes to construct the garage 72 feet from the
front property line. The home is situated 142 feet from the front property line, she said. It would meet the
required principal building setback but an accessory structure cannot be an OAB, Curtis explained, so a
variance is needed to construct the proposed garage that size in the current location. Staff finds viable
alternatives for this project that would conform to the ordinances and not require variances.These include
reducing the garage to 1,000 square feet or moving it further north on the property. Staff recommends
denial of the application as applied.
Peter Antonenko, 165 Christofori Circle,the applicant,explained why they chose that location for the
garage. To the north behind the pad for the asphalt there is the existing septic,he said. Going to the west
would have meant removing a lot of trees and bringing in dirt. To the south there is a geothermal field.
The location selected requires the least amount of tree removal. The existing home does not have much
storage in relation to the mechanical. The size of the garage was designed for extra storage for seasonal
items and kids' seasonal sports equipment and bikes,he explained.The driveway configuration would
make it difficult to park cars when the kids are old enough to drive in a few years. They said they only
have three neighbors and they are in favor of the plan as it doesn't block anyone.
John Daly,Revision LLC,Wayzata, said he worked with the applicant on the project.He said it is about a
2.5 acre site. The lot appears to be large but it is pushed back quite a ways from the street view and there
is a large hill. There is still a significant amount of front yard. The home and the structure can't be seen
from the street.He said he looked at the reason for ordinances such as the view and impact on the
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neighbors and felt those concerns don't apply here.Also,this protects the majority of trees on the
property and they were interested in being good stewards of the environment.
Libby said he had visited and would call it an estate setting in that it is very private.He asked why they
approached their storage needs as an accessory structure rather than as an addition to the house.
Daly explained they felt this approach served all the needs better including extra cars and turnaround.
The applicant said part of the intent was to be able to have the snowmobile trailer inside rather than sitting
outside on the property. He said the house itself was already a little larger than they wanted so they didn't
want to plan an addition to the house. He also said living in the country he prefers larger vehicles.
Acting Chair Ressler opened the public hearing at 7:26 p.m.
There was no public comment.
Acting Chair Ressler closed the public hearing at 7:26 p.m.
Ressler asked how the City came up with the 1,000 foot standard for oversize accessory buildings.
Curtis said over-sized buildings to the front of the building,the streetward side, did not use to be
permitted but a change was made several years ago to permit them in rural areas. She said they would be
permitted to build a structure that size if it were behind or even with the house.
Oakden noted that the 1000 square foot building was limited and it was intended to make sure it was a
relatively smaller building and that the main footprint and the principal building stayed as the larger mass
structure on the on the site as intended to maintain that principal look.
Libby said the intent of the ordinance was to not have intrusive structures too far out toward the road. But
this is a unique circumstance,he said,where it does have the appearance of being quite a significant piece
of property.He added it would be defeating this family's needs by pulling 400 feet out of the building that
they need to have.Moving it to the back of the house would be impractical.He said he would be in favor
of the application.
Kraemer said he agreed with Commissioner Libby,noting that there are obstructions on the back of the
lot.He said if they are limited to 1,000 feet the City would just end up with snowmobile trailers and other
vehicles outside.
Erickson said he had served on the ordinance committee as well and in 10 years of serving on the Long
Lake and Orono Planning Commissions he can't remember any time when an applicant was approved for
a variance when he had two avenues to conform to the ordinance.He said most of the practical difficulties
were not met.He pointed out the applicant was asking for a building 40 percent larger than the ordinance.
Libby pointed out they were asking for 1,000 feet less than they could build if they built it behind the
house.
Ressler said he did not think the request was egregious but the City does have its code to follow.
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Libby said in general terms accessory buildings standing out in front of the primary structure,where
they're highly visible and the size and the appearance of those buildings can be offensive to the general
public,that the thought process of limiting to 1,000 square feet or having to put it in the back of the
building makes sense. Libby said in this case even though it doesn't conform to code it is worthy of
granting the variance,because nobody's going to see it.
Commissioners discussed whether any conditions should be put on a motion for approval regarding
grading and preserving trees.
Ressler said if the application is denied it doesn't mean it stops. It would go on to the City Council.He
said he thought it would be more proper to look at the ordinance language to see why this does not fit and
he would plan to vote opposed.
Libby moved,Kraemer seconded,to approve LA23-000025 Revision LLC, 165 Cristofori Circle,
for variances to permit an Oversized Accessory Building on the property streetward of the
principal building as applied.VOTE: Ayes: 3,Nays 2 (Erickson and Ressler).
6. LA23-000028 LOREN AND JULIA PARKS,350 CRESTVIEW AVENUE,REQUESTS
LOT AREA,FRONT YARD SETBACK,SIDE YARD SETBACK,REAR YARD
SETBACK,AND 75-FOOT CREEK SETBACK VARIANCES,AS WELL AS A
VARIANCE FOR HARDCOVER WITHIN THE 75-FOOT CREEK SETBACK IN
ORDER TO REDEVELOP THE PROPERTY.
City Planner Curtis said the applicants are requesting a number of variances in order to support the
construction of a new home on the property. The applicant is proposing a two-story home with a full
basement. The property is non-conforming in size. The small lot sizes and the impact of the 75-foot Creek
setback combine to make the lot nearly unbuildable, she said. The following variances for setbacks are
requested:27-foot front yard setback; a 10-foot side yard setback from the north side lot line,a 34.7-foot
rear setback, and a 39.4 setback from the creek.The new home plan was designed to minimize the hard
cover within the creek setback as well,Curtis said. She added there have been calls and questions from
neighbors but no public comments. Staff recommends approval of the variances as applied. Curtis said the
planning commission should consider a recommendation for approval which includes the use of pervious
paver materials for the proposed patio area in order to offset some of the stormwater impact within the
creek setback.
Julia and Loren Parks,350 Crestview Ave., said they purchased the home several years ago. Prior to that,
about 10 years ago,the pervious owners had put forth a building plan that had been approved. They tried
to stay very close to the previous owner's plan. They have a family and are looking to build a home where
they can raise their children in the community.They initially proposed building closer to the creek but
moved the plan several feet toward the road with the creek set-back in mind. The proposed patio is within
the existing footprint for the current house. They also said they have conditional approval from the
watershed district.
Acting Chair Ressler opened the public hearing at 8:17 p.m.
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Mike Huthwaite, 3382 Bayside Rd., said their home is almost kitty korner from the applicant's. He said
he has looked at the plans for the house and wanted to speak for the neighborhood in saying it looks
excellent and will be a nice house for a nice family.He said it would affect them the most as they are
right across, and it will affect them positively.
Acting Chair Ressler closed the public hearing at 8:19 p.m.
Ressler said staff is in support of the application and it makes a lot of sense.
Erickson moved,Kraemer seconded,to approve LA23-000028,350 Crestview Avenue, variances as
Applied.VOTE: Ayes: 5,Nays 0.
OTHER BUSINESS—Update on June 12,2023 City Council Meeting
Oakden updated the Commissioners on the June 12, 2023 City Council meeting noting the Council
reviewed four items the Planning Commission had previously reviewed at that meeting and supported
each of the recommendations of the commission.
ADJOURNMENT
Libby moved, Schultze seconded,to adjourn the Planning Commission Meeting.VOTE: Ayes 5,
Nays 0.
The Orono Planning Commission meeting adjourned at 8:21 p.m.
ATTEST:
Christopher Bollis, Chair
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