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Home My WebLink About10-16-1972 Planning MinutesVILLAGE OF ORONO Joint Meeting of the Planning Commission and Village Council, October 16, 1972 The Planning Commission and Village Council met on the above date with the following members present: Chairman Poisson, Elliott, Gasch, Hays, Kullberg, Ryerse, and Van West. Present from the Council: Mayor Oberhauser, Councilmen Dorn, Massengale, and McCarthy. Also present: Village Administrator Cosby and Village Engineer Mills. Gasch reported on the progress of the sewer comniittf'f. She said she agreed with Mr. Cosby thac it should be called a utility committee, keeping in mind water where feasible. The committee's opinion was that the procedure for bringing sewer to the Village especially that area around the lake was to: 1. Get a statement from the Metro Pollution Control Agency on the need for sewer around the lake. 2. Place an application for Federal funding with the Metro Sewer Board. 3. Meet with the people in the area to be sewered for discussion. If funds would be available, the committee's opinioii was that it should be all funded at once not in small projects spread over years. Mr. Mills gave members a population projection chart and a map of proposed routes of the Metro Sewer and its branches, showing the area to be serviced. Mayor Oberhauser stated that if funding should be available, more areas should be included, explicity. Fox Ridge, Webber Hills, and extension of North Arm Drive, Leaf Street and Cygnet Place and possible West Branch Road. Mr. Mills stated that there were alternate routes some more costly, requiring lifting of sewage which is very costly. He explained three alternates quoting rough figures for installation. In any event, he said Metro Sewer had laid down a dictum that we choose one plan and send it to them. 6:30 P.M. SEWER COiUUTEE REPORT Hays passed out a progress report by the P.U.D. committee showing some concepts tiiey had arrived at. P.U.D. COMMITTEE I (Continued) G O MINUTES OF A JOINT MEETING HELD OCTOBER 16, 1972 Page 2 Van Nest questioned the need for a P.U.D. ordinance feeline our present P.R.D. ordinance was adequate, and expressed a fear that the adoption of a P.U.D. ordinance would simply open the way to a density increase. Mayor Oberhauser stated he did not feel this was the i^t*pose of the ordinance. It was merely to give more flexibility in planning, allowing large tracts to develop their own service and to give them more freedom in arrangement. It was decided to have more discussion on this at the next meeting. It was here decided to have another joint meeting of the Planning Commission and Village Council at 6:30 P.M. on November 5, 1972. The regular business meeting commenced at 7:40 P.M. Kullberg moved, Uyerse seconded, that the Minutes of the meeting of October 2, 1972, be approved. Motion, Ayes (7) - Nays (0). Messrs. Stanke, Sween, and Simmons represented tiie Eberhardt Construction Company in an application for a variance to construct a residence on Lot 4, Vern Mar Manor. It had been determined at the last meeting that the lot was 95* X 150* in a R-IC zone and was the last lot in this subdivision. It is serviced by and assessed for sewer and water. A building permit was issued to the Eberhardt Company by the staff during tne absence of the Building Inspector on the assurance by the company that everything had been checKed out. The Building Inspector placed a stop order on it until the matter of a variance for lot size and frontage was obtained; also, at the last meeting the matter was tabled for a legal opinion and an engineer*s report on the drainage in the area. P.U.D. COMMITTEE (Continued) MINUTES VARIANCE Lot 4, Vern Mar Manor Mr. Poisson read the engineer*s report written by Lyle Swanson of the Mills Engineering firm stating he thought there was a problem in the matter of drainage in the area before excavation began and that it could be resolved by a swale through the proposed driveway channeling the water to the rear of Lot 3, the adjacent lot, in the area wnere the natural drainage had gone previous to the commencement of construction. Poisson asked Mr. Cosby what the attorney had reported at the last Village Council meeting, rlr. Cosby said he had informallly stated that due to a permit being issued, the Village could be liable (Continued)I o MINUTES OF A JOINT ^^EETING HELD OCTOBER 16, 1972 Page 3 in the event the present construction, consisting only of footings, would be damaged during the delay caused by obtaining the necessary variance. James Lassek, 2636 Lydiard Avenue, voiced concern that the construction of the residence at the elevation commenced, would give him problems at his residence where the dra’ii^age problem was already critical. Elliott stated, that living in the vicinity, she had become aware that there always had been some problems with a wet basement in this residence. Van Nest stated he lived in the area and there had always been some problem with ponding of water on the lot being built on. The Building Inspector stated from his examination of the lot after excavation for the basement, that he could see where some water had ponded in the nortnwest corner but he was of the opinion most of Lot 4 had been lower than Lot 5 but higher than Lot 3, hence the natural drainage had been through these lots to the culvert on Lydiard and the area just west of the Fabric House. Tnis was verified by Elliott, owner of the Fabric House. The following members verified they had seen the subject property; Elliott, Van Nest, Poisson, and Hays. Brad Hays said member Searles had seen it with him. Poisson moved, Ryerse seconded, to approve the variance conditioned on the final grading meeting the specifications from the Village Engineer in his memo of October 11, 1972, with the Village Engineer making the final inspection to see if these specifications are met. Motion, Ayes (7) - Nays (0). Donna Martelle and Gladys Olson, representing Mrs. Martelle, explained the reason*for the division was to give more lakeshore to the easterly lot as the lakeshore was shallow toward Tonkawa Road. The following members said they had viewed the site: Poisson, Gasch, Hays and Kullberg and could see nothing adverse to allowiiig the division. Poisson moved, Kullberg seconded, to recommend approval since the sites met all zoning require ments and the residence being divided off had a legal easement. Motion, Ayes (7) - Nays (0). VARIANCE (Continued) DIVISION 1365 Tonkawa Road Kullberg moved, Ryerse seconded, that the meeting be adjourned at 8:45 P.M. Motion, Ayes (7) - Nays (0), ADJOURNMENT Respectfully submitted, Mike Scheller, Secretary o MINUTES OF A JOINT MEETING HELD OCTOBER 16, 1972 in the event the present construction, consisting only of footings, would be damaged during the delay caused by obtaining the necessary variance. James Lassek, 2636 Lydiard Avenue, voiced concern that the construction of the residence at the elevation commenced, would give him problems at his residence where the draii^^ge problem was already critical. Elliott stated, that living in the vicinity, she had become aware that there always had been some problems with a wet basement in this residence. Van Nest stated he lived in the area and there had always been some problem with ponding of water on tne lot being built O/i. The Building Inspector stated from his examination of the lot after excavation for the basement, that he could see where some water had ponded in the northwest corner but he was of the opinion most of Lot 4 had been lower than Lot 5 but higher than Lot 3, hence the natural drainage had been through these lots to the culvert on Lydiard and the area just west of the Fabric House. This was verified by Elliott, owner of the Fabric House. The following members verified they had seen the subject property: Elliott, Van Nest, Poisson, and Hays. Brad Hays said member Searles had seen it with him. Poisson moved, Ryerse seconded, to approve the variance conditioned on the final grading meeting the specifications from the Village Engineer in his memo of October 11, 1972, with the Village Engineer making the final inspection to see if these specifications are met. Motion, Ayes (7) - Nays (0). Page 3 VARIANCE (Continued) G Donna ilartelle and Gladys Olson, representing '!rs. Martelle, explained the reason for the division was to give more lakeshore to the easterly lot as the lakeshore was shallow toward Tonkawa Road. The following members said they had viewed the site: Poisson, Gasch, Hays and Kullberg and could see nothing adverse to allowi«ig the division. Poisson moved, Kullberg seconded, to recommend approval since the sites met all zoning require ments and the residence being divided off had a legal easement. Motion, Ayes (7) - Nays (0). Kullberg moved, Ryerse seconded, that the meeting be adjourned at 8:45 P.M. Motion, Ayes (7) - Nays (0). DIVISION 1365 Tonkawa Road ADJOURNMENT Respectfully submitted, Mike Scheller, Secretary