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HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-06-1972 Planning MinutesVILLAGE OF ORONO Regular Meeting of the Planning Cosmission, March 6, 1972 7:15 P.M. The Planning Commission met on the above date with the following members present: Elliott, Hays, Kullberg, Nicholls, Searles, and Soutliwortn. Absent: Gasch, llerfurth, Poisson, Ryerse, and Van Nest. In the absence of Chairman Poisson, Southworth Ciiaired the meeting. Kullberg moved, Searles seconded, that the ?Iinutes of the meeting of February 22, 1972, be approved. Ftotion, Ayes (6) - Nays (0). MINUTES James Lindsey represented himself in an application to conduct an antique shop in a R-li) zone at 2314 Shadywood Road, legally described as Lot 15 and NWly 5* of Lot 16, Wiley's Navarre Addition. He presented statements from the neighbors saying they had no objection to this usage. Mr. Lindsey said that this property had been a problem rental, a condition verified by the Building Inspector and that the neighbors preferred the proposed usage to the way it was currently used. CONDITIONAL USE PER*!IT 2314 Shadywood Road Lot 15, NWly 5* Lot 16 Wiley's Navarre Addition Searles asked what improvements were intended to be done to the property. Mr. Lindsey stated they intended to place a new roof on the house, do small alterations, paint, remove the shed in the rear and blacktop in the rear yard on the Olive Avenue side. He stated that this is a personalized business and not conducive to a large volume and felt he had ample parking on the Olive Avenue side. Nicholls moved, Searles seconded, that since this was the highest and best current use of this property, approval be recommended. Motion, Ayes (6) - Nays (0). Members studied the proposed division of Michael Langner>John Wells property. The division is for the purpose of mutually adjusting the property line between their property lines by 5’. losed division of DIVISION 2000-2016 Shadywood Road Searles moved, Southworth seconded, that since there was no attempt to evade the zoning code, the division be recommended for approval. Motion, Ayes (6) - Nays (0). MINUTES OF A REGULAR ?!EETING HELD flARCH 1972 Searles aoved. Hays seconded, to adjourn the meeting at 7:30 P.M. ?fotion. Ayes C6) - Nays (0). Page 2 ADJOURNMENT After a brief recess, the joint meeting h.ttween the Planning Conunission, Village Council and Park Commissions began. In attendance were members of the Planning Commission listed above, Gasch arrived late. From tae Park Commission, Jones, Leipold, Ogland, Panuska, Stanke, Wait.', and Hysocky. From the Village Council, Mayor Oberhauser, Butler, Dorn, McCarthy, and Village Administrator Martin. JOINT MEETING The meeting opened with Mayor Oberhauser asking for reports from Special Study groups in the Planning Commission. Searles showed maps and charts being put together for a transportation study, showing not only the Orono area but areas adjacent to us. He pointed out that transportation study could not be made without including these areas. The maps and charts will show school and public bus routes and their number of grade crossings and 't-/traffic counts throughout the Village. The traffic study is being conducted to study two major categories: The feasibility of using ring routes to move traffic at^ay from the lake via County #110 and #19, #84 to Sixth Avenue North and present Highway #12 and to the new Highway #12 in tl»e future. To aid in this study, they are calling on the Metro Transit Commission to propose alternatives to us, the County Highway Department to find their stand on ring routes and the State Highway Department so we may be kept abreast of developments on new Highway #12. Searles stated they have a tentative date set for at 7:30 P.M. at the Orono Middle Scnool to meet with a member of the Metro Transit Committee. At this meeting. Council members of the adjacent communities will be invited to attend. Oberhauser stated that the basic design for major thoroughfares should be expanded to accomplish this. iSoutiiworth gave a brief report on the municipal sewer study being conducted by a subcommittee of the Planning Commission saying they were establishing an order of priority by the need for the service. (Continued) MIHUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING HELD flARCH 6, 1972 Tiic areas mentioned for priotities were Hackberry Hill* Long Lake Country Club, Smith's Bay, and Minnetonka Summit Park. Gascn stated at a later time that these could be conceivably grouped together so that funding to do the entire project could be obtained. In regard to funding, Oberhauser stated tnat various funding methods were studied in >a.‘t sewer construction but conditions imposed to receive these funds and the length of time necessary to receive them would have been offset by the rapidly rising costs of the construction. Elliott reported tiiat progress is being made on the PUi) ordinance study. She displayed a brochure put out by the Metro Council . which she felt was apropos for layman study. Copies of the PUD ordinances for other suburban municipalities have been obtained for study. Searles interpolated that PUD ordinances are so varied that caution would have to be used in obtaining the right one for Orono. Oberhauser added unless PUD ordinance gave amenities instead of density, Orono would be better to stick with their present ordinances. He also was of the opinion that much could be done through Donald Dayton, the district representative to the Metro Council. The matter of signs was briefly touched on. The consensus of opinion being that the factors to be considered were quality and elevations. The Building Inspector stated that sign control could be kept by enacting legislation to require permits where size, quality and elevation would be evident before the sign was put up than after. Searles spoke on the Lake Minnetonka Conservation District shoreline policy being formulated. He stated that it was a policy, not an ordiJiance, but a policy that every community on the lake should study with a view toward making them a part of tiieir ordinances. He stated the L.H.C.D. was not denying the use of hard cover around the lake but asking that the run off from tliese hard covers be filtered by means of jonding and berms instead of directly or )y storm sewers. He asked that the Planning Commission members study the policy and put some input into the minutes of their meetings by an expression of views. Page 3 JOINT MEETING o IIINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING HELD MARCH 6, 1972 Members of the Park Commission now spoke on their studies, Wysocky said study had been made on future needs of the Village for a park system not onl/ for a few years but 50-100 years from now. She stated the best formula for parks she could obtain was that these should be approxmiately one acre for each 100 people. Using the projected ultimate population as 30,000 would require the acquisition of 300 acres of park property. If this seemed high to some people, sne stated it was easier to obtain it now while there was open space than when density had set i- if later on the need was not there, there would be no problem of disposing of the property. Dorn was of the opinion tnat the trend was away from small park areas and toward larger systems having more facilities. Southworth was of the opinion that with all the wetlands in Orono there was a question of what the economy could sustain in the matter of using the good land available. Leipold now spoke on the acquisition of the ' rench Lake area for a park after it was -eturned to the Village from the Metro Sewer Board. Factors he considered that would make the area an ideal park site were; a ponding area suitable for winter sports, nice trees--also noting that many iiave been and are being planted, along witn much high ground making it suitable for summer use and nature studies. Sorae buildings and sanitary facilities were available that could be used for a park area. Panuska reported on progress in the acquisition of the Luce Line right-of-way for a nature trail. Brought out in his report: 1. The Luce Line rigiit-of-way is available. A company wished to continue using it as a railroad rigi»t-of-way and took it to the U.S. Supreme Court who ruled the owners had a right to abandon it. 2. The cost of acquiring the right-of-way would be roughly $300,000, the present appraisal on it. 3. Work would have to be done on tae grade crossing, trestles and bridges before the trail could be used. 4. Engineering fees would be about $14,000. Page 4 JOINT MEETING MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING HELD .’lARCH 6, 1972 5. Contrary to popular opinion, it is not suitable for a rapid transit system as the Aright of way from the Plymouth Industrial ” Park to Minneapolis is already nmcnased. 6. There would only be limited access to the trail and in some areas it would have to be fenced. 7. The final say what the trail could be used for would be up to the municipalities throu«»h which the trail ran. 8. This would not be a trail for motorized vehicles. 9. Negotiations are taking place with the State to incorporate tae trail into th© State Trail System. 10. There should be liason between the Park Board and Hennepin County regarding the usage of the trail. Respectfully submitted, '^^Mike Scheller Secretary Page 5 JOINT MEETING