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MINUTES OF A PUNNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON APRIL 23, 1979
The Planning Comnlsslon met on the above date.
Present were the following members: Chairman Wilson,
Hannah, McDonald, Adams, Frahm, Hammerel and Hurr.
Mabusth represented the City staff.
Wilson announced the public meeting. Mr. Johnston
and his representative, Mr. Herfurth, were present.
Mabusth stated she had the Affidavit of Publication
and Certificate of Mailing. Mr. and Mrs. Burt Corwin
were present representing the Hendel property. Their
main concern with the plat was the effect it would
have on an existing 16* road easement through the
Johnston property which served the Hendel property.
Mabusth stated that the City is satisfied with the
road as shown and the 16* road easement would have
to be resolved between' the property owners. However,
the City engineer has recommended moving the access
further north for safety requirements which falls
within the Hendel property abutting Willow Drive.
Hurr moved to table the subdivision to provide the
applicant time to work out the access point and
the easement question with the abutting property
owners. Motion seconded by Hammerel.
Vote: Ayes (6), Nays (0), Abstained (1)
Wilson abstained as Mr. Johnston is a client of his
firm.
Wilson announced the public meeting. Mr. HussmAh
and Mr. Hansen (Schoell Madson) were present.
Mabusth stated she had the Affidavit of Publication
and Certificate of Mailing. Mr. and Mrs. Carlson,
3498 North Shore Drive, were present and expressed
concerns for the traffic generated by such a
development. Mabusth stated that she had not yet
received a recommendation from the Park Commission
or the Police Department. The Hennepin County
Highway Department has requested an additional 7*
of right-of-way and have stated that a right turn
lane may not be needed if the shoulder is wide
enough.
ATTENDANCE
7:30 P.M.
HARRISON JOHNSTON
925 Willow Dr. So.
SUBDIVISION
Public Info. Meeting
7:30 P.M. - 8:05 P.M
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HUSSMAN INVST. CO.
3660 Shoreline Dr. [
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Public Info. Meeting I<
8:12 P.M. - 8:25 P.M.
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The City engineer stated that the sewer and
water capacities are okay; he recommended taking
the drainage and utility easements surrounding
each lot; would require a lot grading plan;
would need more information regarding the proposed
retention pond and storm water retention facilities,
and would also require a drainage easement for the
wetlands to the wect on the Tonka Toy Property.
Frahm stdted concern regarding the drainage problems
already existing in the neighborhood and the effect
this development would have on this already existing
problem. He was also concerned that the development
was within the required 1,000 foot setback from the
lakeshore at three points.
Hammerel moved to table the P.R.D. application until
further study of the drainage problems and the
traffic Impact could be completed, receipt of
recomnendations from the Police Department and the
Park Commission, and to give staff time to review
the lakeshore setbacks. Motion seconded by Hurr.
Vote: Ayes (7), Nays (0). Motion passed unanimously.
Wilson annotmced the public meeting. Mr. Petersen
was present as well as Mrs. Olson the property owner.
Mabusth stated she had the Affidavit of Publication
and Certificate of Mailing. She also noted phone
calls from: Louis J. Larson, 1396 Baldur Park Road
who had no objections to the proposed plat and
Theodore Boer,. 1392 Baldur Park Road regarding the
access road (he was present at this meeting). Other
public in attendance were:
Kenton & Diane Carlson, 3498 North Shore Drive
& >b:s. Molde, 1428 Baldur Park Road
Jack & Maureen Nyquist, 1432 Baldur Park Road
Jim Werner, 1408 Baldur Park Road
Charles Affias, 1404 Baldur Park Road
Lloyd Stuth, 1412 Baldur Park Road
Arthur Gunderson, 1376 Baldur Park Road
HUSSMAN INVST. CO.
3660 Shoreline Dr.
P.R.D.
Public Info. Meeting
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GARY PETERSEN
1340 Baldur Park Rd.
SUBDIVISION/VARIANCE
Public Info. Meeting
8:25 P.M. - 9:00 P,M
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The existing road was the main concern of the public
in attendance. The maintenance of the road ends at
Mr. Boer's driveway, it does not have an appropriate
cul-de-sac, and is eroding. Mr.- Boer did not feel
that the access was a "legal access". Mabusth
stated we would have to have the City attorney
address this issue. The City engineer is advising
that the City make the road public up to the
cul-de-sac. The general consensus was that the
road be moved towards the center with a cul-de-sac
just below the building site on Lot 3. Lot 2 would
have a lip coming down to the cul-de-sac to provide
access for that lot.
GARY PETERSEN
1340 Baldur Park Rd.
SUBDIVISION/VARIANCE
Public Info. Meeting
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Hurr moved to table the subdivision request to give
the developer an opportunity to meet the City
engineer's requirements (repositioning the road to
the center and moving the cul-de-sac to a safer
location), to address the Planning Commission's
concerns regarding hardcover and the 75* lakeshore
setback and to resolve the questions regarding
the legal access. Motion seconded by Hammerel.
Vote: Ayes (7), Nays (0). Motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Oberhauser was present. He felt Wayzata was
taking a wait and see attitude towards the project
as the major impact would be on Orono. The main
problems is that under current zoning, attached
single family dwellings cannot be done in a 1-acre
zone. It was questioned whether the open space
land could be deeded to the units with an easement
granted to the golf course as the Planning Commission
consensus was that they had a hard time dealing with
open space use of golf course lands and would feel
more comfortable with that kind of solution.
The Wayzata City engineer's main concern with the
road was its steepness. The access would be the same
as the Country Club. Mr. Oberhauser did not feel
the lot was suitable for single family residential
particularly pertaining to the views. After much
discussion, the Planning Commission decided to vote
separately on the issues concerning this application.
WAYZATA COUNTRY CLUB
200 Wayzata Boulevard
SUBDIVISION/REZONING/
VARIANCE
(#440)
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Wilson moved to recommend rezoning from RR-IB
(2-acre) to R-IA (1-acre) of a rectangular parcel
(approximately 13 acres) subject to verification
of sewer and water availability. Motion seconded
by Hurr. Vote: Ayes (7), Nays (0).
Wilson moved to rec;>inmend development of a new
zoning classification (exact requirements to be
established through detailed study if the new
zoning classification is pursued - for example
some requirements could be: 1-acre, sewer and water
availability, located on a major arterial road,
consideration of the*impact on the neighborhood, etc.)
which would permit attached single family residential
units. Motion seconded by Frahm. Vote: Ayes (7),
Nays (0).
Adams moved to approve the use of the golf course for
the open space requirement, but the open space must be
part and parcel of the total land (approximately 13 acres)
and all of the property must be available for use by
residents thereon. Motion seconded by Hammerel.
Vote: Ayes (5), Nays (2).
Frahm and Hurr - They felt the using of golf course land
to satisfy the open space requirements set a bad precedent.
They had trouble using land to satisfy one requirement
while really using it for another purpose, they would have
been more comfortable with deeding the land to the units
with an easement to the golf course.
WAYZATA COUNTRY CLUB
200 Wayzata Boulevar
SUBDIVISION/REZONING
VARIANCE (Cont.)
(#440)
Item tabled by Staff.JOHN WORDEN
1180 Lyman Avenue
VARIANCE
(#469)
UNTRY CLUB
a Boulevar
N/REZONING
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Mr. Werner was present, Mr. Werner was Informed
of staff's request that the shed be removed as
the garage would be of sufficient size for storage.
The applicant is requesting a front yard setback
of 24' which is a variance of 6* as well as a
hardcover variance.
JIM P. WERNER
1408 Baldur Park Rd.
VARIANCE
(#473)
Wilson moved to approve the variance as requested
subject to:
Letter from Gordon Coffin verifying 75'' iakeshore
setback so staff can recheck the hardcover
calculations.
Shed must be removed by final Inspection of the
garage.
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Motion seconded by Adams. Vote: Ayes (7), Nays (0).
Motion passed unanimously.
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Mr. and Mrs, Molde were present. Mr. and Mrs.
Nyquist, 1432 Baldur Park Road, were present and
stated that they had no objections to the proposed
addition. The main issue was increasing the amount
of hardcover within 75' of the lake. It was also
discussed that if the lots were combined the hardcover
variance would be less than the 7% requested.
R. M. MOLDE
1428 Baldur Park Rd.
VARIANCE
(#475)
Hamnerel moved to approve the variance request siting
the hardship of the configuration of the existing
structure, that the addition will not extend any
farther toward the lake, and the size will not effect
drainage. Motion seconded by Wilson. Vote: Ayes (5),
Nays (2).
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Hannah felt that since he has been on the Commission,
generally the policy has been whenever possible not to
grant building within 75* of the lake.
Hurr felt the approval was inconsistent with previous
Planning Consaission decisions.
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SKETCH PLAN REVIBf - Ann Niforopulos was present.
Staff recommends a metes and bounds division,
riurr wanted to note for the record that the City
recommends to the DNR that development to the
extent that has gone on before should not be
allowed, the land should not be used until the
subdivision is complete.
Planning Commission gave conceptual approval
and scheduled a Public Information Meeting for
May 21, 1979.
Ms. Gluek was present. Staff is requesting a 30*
outlot to designate the driveway. Adams questioned
how the location of the outlot could be determined
at this time. Mabusth stated that an outlot can be
moved at any time Just so that we serve the access
for the lot.
Adams requested that the existing septic system be
inspection and an alternate drainfield site
determined.
Planning Commission gave conceptual approval and
scheduled a Public Information Meeting for
May 21, 1979.
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Ailams requested the following correction:
Page 3, Popov/Poisson Subdivision, Paragraph 1:
OMIT - "Adams questioned ...............easement for the
driveway"
ADD - *'Adams questioned the merits of the City
taking an underlying easement on a substandard
road right of way.*'
Meeting adjourned 11:30 P.M.ADJOURNMENT